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A33223 The state of the Church of Rome when the Reformation began as it appears by the advice given to Paul III and Julius III by creatures of their own : with a preface leading to the matter of the book. Clagett, William, 1646-1688. 1688 (1688) Wing C4400; ESTC R15337 26,546 43

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see no such degeneracy in any other City but in this which is to be an example to all others These Whores live in splendid Houses 'T is a filthy Abuse and ought to be mended In this City also Malice and Animosity reigns amongst private Citizens to bring whom to a right understanding and to make them Friends is a main part of the Bishop Wherefore some of the Cardinals who are fittest for this Service should be appointed to take up Quarrels and to reconcile the Citizens to one another There are Hospitals Pupils and Widows in this City the principal care of which belongs to the Bishop and Prince Wherefore your Holiness may please to take a fit care about all this by some Cardinals that are Men of Probity Now these are the things Most Holy Father which we for the present have brought together as our Capacity would permit that as to us it seems needful they may be Corrected But you in your Goodness and Wisdom will make a more perfect judgment of every thing We indeed thô we have not answered the greatness of the Concern which is too hard for us yet at least have satisfied our own Consciences and cannot but conceive great hope that under your Government we may see the Church of God purged fair as a Dove at Harmony with it self and united into one Body to the never dying Honour of your Name You have taken to your self the Name of of Paul we hope you will imitate the Charity of Paul who was a Chosen Vessel to carry the Name of Christ amongst the Gentiles We hope that you are chosen to restore the Name of Christ forgotten by the Nations and even by us of the Clergy that hereafter it may live in our Hearts and appear in our Actions to heal our Diseases to reduce the Flock of Christ into one Sheep-fold to remove from us that Indignation and Vengeance of God which we deserve which is now ready to fall upon us which now hangs over our Heads The Names of the Cardinals c. Gaspar Card. Contarene Joh. Peter Card. Theatine afterwards Paul IV. James Card. Sodelet Reginald Pole Card. of England Frederic Archbishop of Brundusium Joh. Matthew Gibet Bishop of Verona Gregory Cortese Abbat of St. George at Venice Fryar Thomas Master of the Sacred Palace THE ADVICE Given by some Bishops Assembled at BONONIA TO Pope Julius III. Concerning the Way to Establish the Roman Church Most Holy Father YOUR Legat at Bononia has given Us to understand that 't is your pleasure That We the Bishops lately Assembled in this City by your Command should three by three separately consult about the most effectual means of Establishing and Advaneing the Apostolic See which is at present so much troubled assaulted and weakned by the Perfidious Lutherans And that we should deliver in Writing our Opinions of this matter that your Holiness may compare them together and deliberate with your self about them as you desire We therefore the three Bishops whose Names are to this thô neither our Prudence Learning or Experience in business does avail much will yet in obedience to your Will distinctly declare our Opinions with such submission that yet all shall be referr'd to the Judgment of your Holiness But in the first place with all Reverence imaginable We would admonish your Holiness to take care least the same thing happen to this our Advice which we remember lately happen'd in another Case when some Cardinals with Select Bishops Nine in all consulted about this very thing viz. The Way of Reforming the Church and presented a Paper in which they offer'd their Opinions For the things there that ought to have been suppressed and concealed presently stole abroad and were scatter'd and dispersed even as far as Germany and so all our Counsels were discover'd and laid open to our Enemies the Lutherans And these things were of wonderful advantage to them in the opposition they made against Us and 't is incredible what hatred of Us they raised by the Books they published upon those Advices Affirming that We our selves confess there are many Errours and Abuses in the Church which We are so far from being willing to correct our selves that we do not stick to defend and maintain them by force and persecute with the utmost rigour any one that dares but to open his Lips about the necessary Amendment of them The divulging that Council most holy Father believe Us was a great disadvantage to our Affairs God forgive him by whose fault or negligence it hapned But truly there ought to be all care and diligence used that this our Advice never come abroad otherwise we shall add affliction to affliction and heap evil upon evil for We strike at things of the highest concern and freely without any respect of Persons we fall directly on the main cause first shew the Disease and then offer a convenient Remedy But these we say are to be kept as Secrets When we had well and long considered what was the State of this weighty Controversie recollecting all things from the beginning for we should always run back to the first principles we at last found it to be this The Lutherans hold and confess all the Articles of the Apostles Creed that of Nice and Athanasius This is very certain for we ought not to deny especially amongst our selves what we all know to be so true And these Lutherans refuse to admit of any other Doctrine but that alone of which the Prophets Christ and his Apostles were Authors and wish likewise that all men would be content with those few things that were observed in the Apostles time or immediately after and would imitate the Primitive Churches nor think of receiving any Traditions which it is not apparent as the light were delivered and instituted by our Lord Jesus Christ and his Apostles Thus do our Adversaries judge but indeed they judge ill We on the other hand following the Opinion of your Holiness would have all Traditions Constitutions Rules and Ceremonies which have hitherto been brought into the Church by the Fathers Councils or any Private Man with a good intention believed and received as Doctrine necessary to Salvation But particularly as to Tradition we believe as an Article of Faith what the Council of Trent lawfully Assembled with the Holy Ghost has Decreed in the 3d Session viz. That our Lord Jesus Christ and his Apostles delivered more Precepts relating both to Manners and Faith by word of Mouth than are in the Scriptures and that these without Writing were handed down to Us And although we can't prove this clearly for amongst our selves we plainly acknowledge that we have no proofs but some sort of conjectures to make out what we teach concerning Tradition yet we confess this to be true because the Roman Church maintains it This in short is the hinge on which the whole Controversie turns hence these Tumults and Contentions proceed But we ought to venture all to keep their Doctrine from
or having had some good purposes once laid them all aside when he came to be Pope I shall not dispute But 't is a plain case that these men have confessed most horrible Scandals against themselves and that at a time when their obligations to reform them were the greatest that the World could lay upon them they moved not one step towards a Reformation in good earnest but made it their business to baffle the desires and hopes of all good men Which shewed it to be the vainest thing imaginable to expect afterwards any Reformation by a Council under the influence of the Roman Court which by their own confession was guilty of all the disorders of the Church or of such Popes as those who by their own confession had been the chiefest Malefactors The Decrees of an Italian Council under the Direction of such Managers as these were not likely to be very holy ones Nor were matters of Doctrine in a fair way to be sincerely deliberated upon and determined truly by those who could not be brought to mend the most notorious faults they confessed against themselves not such points of Doctrine to be sure as served to support those Abuses in practise which they were resolved not to Reform Certainly there could be no other Reason to imagine that the Grace of the Holy Ghost should be present with such a Council excepting this only that the Managers were brought to it with as much difficulty as if they had been sure to meet the Holy Ghost there The Bull for intimation of the Council was not Published till five Years after the Advice Nor was it resolved that they should begin till two Years after that when the Pope furnished his Legates with Powers to Dissolve it History of Council of Trent p. 112. if it should not be an Obedient Council For no Man could certainly say with what Dispositions or in what Numbers the German French and Spanish Bishops might come and it was good to provide against the worst It was yet about a year before the Council was opened and the Proceedings were then retarded by artificial Difficulties as well as accidental ones and with all the Management it did not throughly please and so after frivolous Pretences was in two Years time by a Majority of Votes Translated to Bolonia the Imperialists remaining still in Trent The Papalins must have it nearer home that they might tend it the better But do what they could they were obliged three Years after to reassure 〈◊〉 ●t Trent the loss of which Point was therefore to be supplied with other Arts. Pope Paul Dying at this time was succeeded by Julius III. who thought fit to suspend the Council for two Years the effect of which was that it came not together till ten Years after As for the Motives that influenced these Councils and the Artifices that brought them to effect and the Intrigues with Princes and the Advantages which the Court made of their opposite Interests for bringing the Council to a good end all this is to be seen in Father Paul's History but the particulars are too many to be touched here It was to Julius III that the three Bishops at Bononia Addressed the Second Advice as Vergerius relates this matter who best knew it not to Paul the third as Wolfius delivers in his Lectiones Memorabiles who though he Quoted Vergerius had lighted upon a false Copy in which that passage at the end of the Advice concerning our Queen Mary was left out which would have discovered that mistake of his from whomsoever he had it that it was found in the Palace after the Death of Paul III. Certainly the discovery of this Advice was the most Fatal Thing that ever happened to the Reputation of the Roman Cause And if it had not been upon the File against them now for above an hundred Years I make no question but the Popish Gentlemen of this Age would run it down for a Sham Advice forged by Vergerius or some other Heretic against the Church of Rome The difference between that Advice of Nine to Paul and this of Three to Julius is in some respects very considerable particularly in this that the Nine seemed to be serious and were not the Three were serious and seemed not to be so which makes the Advice of the former look like Sincerity and that of the latter to look like Wit Whereas in Truth the one was very gravely given without any intention to have it followed the other with that pleasantness and confidence that uses to be amongst Friends but with design of executing what was advised But in this they agree that as the Advice of the Nine represents the corrupt Practices of the Roman Communion with the main Reasons thereof so that of the Three truly shews what kind of Faith theirs is and how it is to be supported Neither the one nor the other that I know of have yet had their turn in English But they are so very instructing especially the latter that I thought a few hours spent in Translating them into our Language would not be thrown away They are so plain that they need no Comment and the use that is to be made of them is so ready that I need not make any Inference from them in behalf of the meanest Reader Only it seemed reasonable to give some short account of the circumstances of the Times in which these things were done which is all the Light that was requisite for those who may be strangers to the History of these Affairs THE ADVICE GIVEN TO Pope Paul the Third BY Four Cardinals and Five other Prelates Whose Names are Underwritten in order to the Amendment of the State of the Church MOst Blessed Father we are so unable to express what mighty Thanks the whole Body of the Church is bound to pay to Almighty God who has in these times raised up you to be the Supream Bishop and Pastor of his Flock and gives you likewise that Mind which you have that we have no hope so much as to conceive how great they are For that Spirit of God by which as the Prophet speaks the Heavens are made firm has Decreed as we cannot but see by your Hand to support the Church now that she is not only leaning but just falling headlong into Ruin nay to advance her to her ancient Eminence and to restore her to her former Beauty It is no uncertain Conjecture of this purpose of God which we are enabled to make whom your Holiness called to you and required that without any regard had to you or to any one else we should signifie to you what those Abuses are and most grievous Distempers wherewith the Church of God and especially the Court of Rome has for a long time been affected whereby also it has come to pass that these pestilent Diseases growing to their height by little and little the Church as we see is upon the very brink of Ruin. And because your Holiness
spreading any farther althô it has got too far already which in truth can never enough be lamented For 't is no trifle that is under debate but the safety and welfare of your whole State and of Us who are all your Creatures and Members is now at stake For in the days of the Apostles to tell you the truth but you must be silent and for several years after them there was no mention made of either Pope or Cardinal there were none of these large Revenues belonging to Bishops and Priests no sumptuous Temples were raised there were no Monasteries Priors or Abbots much less any of these Doctrines these Laws these Constitutions nor this Soveraignty which we now exercise over People and Nations But the Ministers of all Churches as well that of Rome as others were willingly obedient to Kings Princes and Governours Let your Holiness therefore judge how hard it would go with us if by ill Destiny we should again be reduced to the Primitive Poverty and Humility again subjected to the wretched Servitude of being under the Command of others This is therefore as we said before a matter of the highest moment Moreover this in our judgment is the onely way of avoiding this grievous danger We find upon full examination of the matter that the Glory Authority and Power of the Church first arose when shrewd discreet active Bishops began to preside over it who used their opportunities to obtain from the Emperours that they would by their Authority and Power Establish the Primacy and Supreme Power over other Churches in this See. And this Pope Boniface the 3d amongst others is said to have received from the Emperour Phocas We observed likewise that the Affairs of the Church began more and more to flourish every day when Cardinals were created the number of Bishops was encreased and so many and so goodly Orders of Monks and Nuns were first founded Nor can we doubt but those Popes Cardinals Bishops Monks and Nuns have by their Cunning their Inventions Rites and Ceremonies turn'd away the Church from that ancient Doctrine which kept her so poor and humble and have by these Arts procured her Favour and Authority We ought therefore to take the same measures to preserve her in that State to which they have raised her That is all kind of application and wit is to be imploy'd the number of Cardinals Bishops Monks and Nuns is to be encreased and to speak particularly your Holiness is in the first place to take this course France Italy and Spain notwithstanding the Lutherans boast that the greatest part of Europe is in their Interest are content with your Empire the last of which does most Religiously observe all your Laws and Constitutions does not change or innovate in any thing And as for that Nation you need not be sollicitous for you can find but few amongst the Spaniards who have not an abhorrence for the Doctrine of Luther But if there are any Hereticks amongst them they are such as rather deny that the Messiah is yet come or that mens Souls are immortal than question the Power of your Holiness But without doubt this Heresie of theirs seems to Us more sufferable than that of Luther and the reason is plain for these Marani thô they believe nothing of Christ or a future State are yet wont to hold their tongues or at most laugh amongst themselves and in the mean time are not at all wanting in their Duty to the Roman Church But the Lutherans do not behave themselves thus they openly dissent from Us and endeavour what they can to weaken and ruine our whole State. France and Italy seem plainly to affect Innovations and most of these Nations according to the Copy that Germany has set them are ready to lay hold on the next occasion to fall off from Us Moreover there are many eminent Cities in those two Provinces who have no Bishop of their own but are subject to the Bishops of the greater and most powerful Cities Now your Holiness should choose out about a hundred of these and create so many new Bishops to govern them Then add fifty more to the present number of Cardinals and out of all these Bishops I say and Cardinals as well old as new select thirty or forty of the most subtile and most versed in Courts and Business who are skilful in the Cannon and Civil Laws Keep these about your Person let these be your Counfellors and Ministers in your most weighty Affairs and private concerns And send all the rest as well those Bishops that are Cardinals as others into their respective Diocess and order them to entertain the People with Plays Shows and all manner of Diversions And let them present themselves to the People both in the Church and riding frequently about the City in as much pomp and splendor as they do at Rome So will it come to pass that the common People who admire these Pomps and Ceremonies and are wont to make much Money where there are many rich men will at last be brought over either by Courtesie or their own advantage to favour your side And we need not fear for the future what Luther Brentius Melancthon or that late Heretick Vergerius shall Write Oh! how much did it concern Us that he should not have escap't from Us but have here been either clapt into Prison or thrown into Tiber For he who was brought up in your publick and private Affairs is acquainted with a great deal of our concerns and of all our Councils But your Holiness has long hands and in your great Wisdom will find a Remedy for this Evil for it is and ever will be lawful to take all ways to free our selves from the Snares of our Enemies nor did we think fit to name those men but for a very good reason a word to the Wise Then let your Holiness take care that these Cardinals and Bishops that reside in their Diocess bestow Benefices on the Children of their Citizens for this is an admirable and ready way to keep their minds steady in the Faith. And we know many of your Subjects who would long ago have embraced Luther's Doctrine but for this one reason that either they themselves or their Brothers or their Sons enjoyed some Ecclesiastical Preferment Nor would it be amiss to send a great many of those Priests that they call Chietini and Paulini into France and Italy For to say the truth these common Priests and Monks do really abuse the Mass too much which they say with little or no Devotion chopping it up in haste and making a publick Sale of it Besides they live such dissolute profligate lives that men deservedly give no longer credit to them nor suffer themselves to be perswaded though our Sophisters take great pains about it that a wicked debauched Fellow can draw Christ out of Heaven to the Altar free Souls from Purgatory and obtain Forgiveness of Sins both to themselves and others and all this by the
Works Done. Therefore these new Priests the Chietini because they say Mass slower and with greater gravity take no Hire but are content with their Meat and Cloathing and in the course of their lives carry a greater shew of goodness will restore Mass to its Primitive Authority and recover its Reputation You should likewise make it your business to get new Orders of Monks founded every-where for they believe us do great service in the establishment of your Dominion For you may consider how they have encreased it by the Confessions Preaching and Worship which they have brought into the Church Besides we are taught this by long experience that the Sect of the Lutherans has been less able to intrude it self there where there is the greatest numbers of Monks especially Dominicans and Franciscans who have ever stoutly maintained your and overthrown the Adversaries Doctrine Likewise give Orders to the Cardinals and Bishops who Reside as well as to the Priests and Monks that they institute new Fraternities as they call 'em in honour of this and that Saint For our Brother Thomas Stella or Todeschin boasts that he contributed much to the Establishment and Enlarging of your Empire by Preaching the people in many parts of Italy into a zeal for these Fraternities especially that of Corpus Christi Moreover let them make Supplications with the greatest show and pomp imaginable Let them cause new Statues and Images to be made burn Lamps and Candles before them and use all sorts of Instruments and Organs in their Temples these are the things I say with which the people are chiefly delighted and for whose sake they have almost forgot that Doctrine which was so destructive and pernicious to us Nor are these which we have mentioned the only things to be observed but the most Reverend the Cardinals and Bishops ought likewise to be mindful of this That they themselves sing Mass with the greatest Pomp and Magnificence they can possibly and also Consecrate Fonts Give Orders Purifie Churches Altars and Burying Places Christen Bells Veil Nuns in the Eyes of the people and in the sight of all the Congregation For the vulgar are given to admire and to be amused with these things in the Contemplation of which their minds are as it were so intangled in a snare that they have no relish for any other food or any inclination to any other Doctrine As indeed to say the truth they were designed for that purpose And really in our judgment these things should be augmented and multiplied for if the introducing and appointing those few which we have now mentioned were of such use to the settlement of your Kingdom of what advantage would it be were there some new ones added For example That threefold Oyl for the Crismes and for the sick is Consecrated every year upon Maunday Thursday and that by one Bishop together with Twelve Priests with that thrice Repeated Adoration and Salutation with those Exorcisms with those breathings upon it and with that rich Balm which is usual Let your Holiness appoint that the Consecration be not performed under five Salutations and Twenty Priests Command likewise that some other precious Liquor besides Balm such as Manna be added because we find it Rain'd that in the Wilderness which therefore deservedly ought to take place amongst our Ceremonies Likewise as often as the Water of Baptism is Consecrated it is customary to put Salt and Oyl into it and to dip the Paschal Taper thrice in it and to divide it into four parts Order that moreover they mingle some Vinegar with it for that was given Christ to drink on the Cross and therefore that ought to be of some use amongst the Ceremonies Also in the Dedication of Churches the Bishops are wont to draw all the Letters of the Latin and Greek Alphabet with their Crosier in the dust Command them to write the Hebrew Letters too if they know them though that does not signifie much for they do not understand Greek and hardly Latin and yet they can write it and 't is the same thing as if they knew them for the reason of Christs Crucifixon was written on the Cross in those Three Languages Latin Greek and Hebrew And whereas the Bishops only Anoint the Palms of the Priests Hands Order them to Anoint both the Palms and Backs of their Hands as well as their Head and whole Face For if that little Oyl has so much Virtue to sanctify them surely a greater quantity of Oyl will have more virtue for that purpose Lastly when Bells are Christen'd they make a Perfume of Frankincense and other Incense appoint that Musk and Amber be mixt with it to raise and increase the Religion of the thing and the wonder of the people Once more when any Bishop sets himself to officiate in any Divine Service with Pomp and Solemnity he ought to have many Ornaments to distinguish him from ordinary Priests such as to omit the rest the Bones and Reliques of some Dead Man which he usually wears at his Breast set in Gold in the Form of a Cross Do you command him to hang a whole naked Leg Arm or Head of some Saint about his Neck by a good thick Cord for that will contribute very much to the encrease of the Religions Astonishment of all that see it The truth is these Ceremonies were all invented and continued by Popes you therefore that are Pope may if you please augment them Nay rather indeed for that Purpose and Design which we mentioned ought to do it Besides we would advise that your Heliness should lay your Commands on those Cardinals and Bishops that happen to reside in their Diocess that they take care to have Logick Sophistry and the Art of the School-men Metaphisicks the Decretals Sextus the Clementines the Extravagants and the Rules of Chancery publickly Taught and Read in their Cities It had been well if Men had ever applyed themselves industriously to the Reading such sort of Books for then our Affairs had never been in so bad a posture as they are but despising this sort of Learning they began to employ themselves in learning Greek and Hebrew and in a little time to examine the Translation of the Bible by the true Original and to study Divinity and the Antient Fathers of the Church and hence sprung all the Misfortunes we lye under therefore you must endeavour that setting these Studies aside Men should again fall to the Study of the Schoolmen and of your Canon-Law by which 't is manifest the study of Divinity was in a manner overwhelm'd and buried But let your Holiness use caution in this For we mentioned before only the Decretals and Sextus and the Clementines and the Extravagants and not that which is called the Decretum which ought not to seem strange For 't is a pernicious Book and lessens your Authority extreamly although it seems in some places to enlarge it For amongst other things in several places it denies That the Pope can add
the least Title to that Doctrine which our Saviour delivered to us and the Apostles taught for thus says the Canon Transferat c. 24. q. 3. They change Truth into a Lye who Preach any other thing then what they received from the Apostles This is a down-right Lutheran Maxim for what else do our Adversaries daily inculcate Then that it is not lawful to depart in the least degree from those things that were in use amongst the Apostles But who of us doth not every day often depart from them Indeed in our Churches we scarce retain as we hinted at the beginning the least shadow of that Doctrine and Discipline which flourisht in the times of the Apostles but have brought in quite another of our own Nay we are expresly called Lyars by that Decretum inasmuch as we have done this yet we have done it by the Advise and Instructions of Popes nay by their peremptory Order and Command But we wish there were not so many Canons as there are of this kind that enjoyn things directly contrary to what the Popes and all of us do every day we speak of Matters of Faith and Doctrine not of Manners Take one or two of them for instance Thus says the Canon that begins Contra 25. q. 1. Nothing can be establisht contrary to the Constitutions of the Fathers nor any thing alter'd no not by the Authority of this See. And then another Canon that begins Ideo c. says Thus by the Divine permission we are so made Pastors of Men that we ought not in the least to transgress what ever our Fathers in their Sacred Canons or Civil Laws have appointed for we go against their most wholsome Institutions if we do not keep inviolably what they according to Divine Pleasure have ordained Do not Pope Zosimus and Leo the Third nay and the whole Roman Church plainly here declare aloud that the Authority of this See can do nothing against the Canons against the Law and against the Ordinances of the antient Fathers which ought to be Religiously observed How therefore shall we answer our Adversaries when they press and urge us with this and turn that of the fifth Psalm upon us There is no certainty in their Mouth for they accuse us of lightness and inconstancy who have such express Canons which forbid the Popes to alter the Decrees of the Fathers or to do any thing contrary to them and notwithstanding all this thereis nothing more frequent than the presumption of altering what has been Established by the Antient Fathers and Councils How I say shall we answer this especially since the Book of Decrees is so celebrated and famous and is in all Schools Courts of Judicature and Churches held in the greatest Honour and Esteem And besides those few which we have given you a tast of it contains a great many others that favour the Cause of our Adversaries and favour it in such a manner that they seem to have been pen'd by some of them Moreover we shall consider of some course to be taken with these Decrees for it seems very absurd that any thing should be taught which is contrary to what your Holiness does not only do but commands to be done But we have reserved the most considerable Advice which we could at this time give your Holiness to the last And here you must be awake and exert all your force to hinder as much as you can possibly the Gospel from being read especially in the vulgar Tongue in all the Cities that are under your Dominion Let that little of it which they have in the Mass serve their turn nor suffer any Mortal to read any thing more for as long as Men were contented with that little things went to your mind but grew worse and worse from that time that they commonly read more This in short is the Book that has beyond all others raised those Storms and Tempests in which we are almost driven to destruction And really who ever shall diligently weigh the Scripture and then consider all the things that are usually done in our Churches will find there is great difference betwixt them and that this Doctrine of ours is very unlike and in many things quite repugnant to it And no sooner does any man discover this being set on by some of our Learned Adversaries but he never ceases bawling against us till he has made the whole Matter publick and rendred us odious to all Men. Therefore those Papers are to be stisled but you must use caution and diligence in it least that create us greater disturbance * Author of e Po●n D●ll ur●o D. John Della Casa Archbishop of Beneventum the Legate of your See at Venice behaved himself handsomly in that business for although he did not openly and avowedly condemn that Book of the Gospel or order it to be suppress'd yet in an obscure dissembling manner he insinuated as much whilst in that long Catalogue of Hereticks which he put out he has found fault with part of the Doctrines maintained in it particularly some certain Chapters which seem most to make against us Seriously a renowned Divine Action what ever others chatter for at first blush it seem'd ridiculous to many that he should condemn so many Authors at once who writ about Religion when himself had never read so much as one syllable of Divinity and Publisht I know not what to which he gave this Title Of the Divine Art. But this is nothing and they who censure this in him have little business of their own to employ them and shew themselves to be great Novices in the Court of Rome For he as he is a true and eminent Courtier spake freely what was his Opinion which we think makes much for his credit It now remains Most Holy Father That we should in short make a Reply to what may perhaps be objected by you that having done this we may finish our Epistle Your Holiness therefore perhaps may say If it is at this time so dangerous a thing to hold a Council of these Bishops thô few in number least some of them should dare to raise a clamour and be severe against my Dignity to undermine it How much more dangerous would it be if besides these therewere a hundred others Created We shall offer three things in answer to this First Look as you generally do that those Bishops who are to be created be ignorant and unlearned but very skilful in the Affairs of Court and addicted to the interest of your Family for that alone will suffice Then avoid a Council as much as you can thô Caesar be very urgent clamorous and importunate Lastly If onely to save your fame and reputation you desire or would seem to desire a Council you may reassemble that But as has been hitherto let there onely be admitted who you are certain will go on your side and let the others be kept out and driven away But of all things be most careful that