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11._o part_n 2._o art_n 1._o quest_n 2._o a_o perfect_a refection_n or_o repast_n be_v not_o in_o bread_n only_o but_o in_o bread_n and_o drink_n therefore_o christ_n be_v not_o perfect_o signify_v as_o feed_v our_o soul_n in_o one_o kind_n but_o in_o both_o and_o 〈◊〉_d soto_n art_n 12._o quest_n 1._o in_o 12._o distinct_a the_o sacrament_n as_o concern_v the_o entire_a signification_n thereof_o be_v not_o perfect_a but_o in_o both_o kind_n doubtless_o half_a a_o man_n be_v not_o a_o man_n nor_o half_a a_o eye_n a_o eye_n nor_o half_a a_o ship_n a_o ship_n neither_o can_v that_o which_o be_v half_a to_o one_o be_v the_o whole_a to_o another_o wherefore_o since_o the_o papist_n confess_v that_o this_o sacrament_n be_v not_o entire_a or_o whole_a to_o a_o priest_n receive_v it_o in_o one_o kind_n only_o neither_o can_v it_o be_v whole_a to_o the_o laiety_n unless_o we_o take_v hesiod_n riddle_n for_o sound_a divinity_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o half_n be_v not_o then_o the_o 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