Selected quad for the lemma: doctrine_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
doctrine_n catholic_n church_n tradition_n 2,180 5 9.3701 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A71070 An answer to several late treatises, occasioned by a book entituled A discourse concerning the idolatry practised in the Church of Rome, and the hazard of salvation in the communion of it. The first part by Edward Stillingfleet ... Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1673 (1673) Wing S5559; ESTC R564 166,980 378

There are 7 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

governor_n of_o a_o christian_a society_n the_o privilege_n of_o command_v in_o thing_n which_o god_n have_v n●t_a al●_n ready_a determine_v by_o his_o own_o law_n we_o plead_v for_o the_o respect_n and_o reverence_n which_o be_v due_a to_o the_o lawful_a constitution_n o●_n the_o church_n whereof_o we_o be_v member_n and_o 〈◊〉_d the_o just_a authority_n of_o the_o guide_v it_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o that_o power_n which_o be_v commit_v to_o the_o governor_n of_o it_o as_o the_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o their_o care_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n although_o not_o in_o their_o infallibility_n 6._o we_o allow_v a_o very_a great_a authority_n to_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o the_o best_a time_n of_o christianity_n and_o look_v upon_o the_o concurrent_a sense_n of_o antiquity_n as_o a_o excellent_a mean_n to_o understand_v the_o mind_n of_o scripture_n in_o place_n otherwise_o doubtful_a and_o obscure_a we_o prosess_v a_o great_a reverence_n to_o the_o ancient_a father_n of_o the_o church_n but_o especial_o when_o assemble_v in_o free_a and_o general_a council_n we_o reject_v the_o ancient_a heresy_n condemn_v in_o they_o which_o we_o the_o rather_o believe_v to_o be_v against_o the_o scripture_n because_o so_o ancient_a so_o wise_a and_o so_o great_a person_n do_v deliver_v the_o contrary_a doctrine_n not_o only_o to_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n in_o their_o own_o time_n but_o ever_o since_o the_o apostle_n nay_o we_o reject_v nothing_o that_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o a_o universal_a tradition_n from_o the_o apostolical_a time_n downward_o but_o we_o have_v so_o great_a a_o opinion_n of_o the_o wisdom_n and_o piety_n of_o those_o excellent_a guide_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n that_o we_o see_v no_o reason_n to_o have_v those_o thing_n force_v upon_o we_o now_o which_o we_o offer_v to_o prove_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o their_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n so_o that_o the_o controversy_n between_o we_o be_v not_o about_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n but_o whether_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o apostolical_a and_o primitive_a time_n ought_v not_o to_o have_v great_a authority_n over_o we_o than_o those_o of_o the_o present_a church_n in_o thing_n wherein_o they_o contradict_v each_o other_o this_o be_v the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o controversy_n between_o we_o and_o all_o the_o clamour_n of_o reject_v the_o authority_n of_o church_n guide_n be_v vain_a and_o impertinent_a but_o we_o profess_v to_o yield_v great_a reverence_n and_o submission_n of_o mind_n to_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n than_o to_o any_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n ever_o since_o we_o be_v sure_o they_o speak_v by_o a_o infallible_a spirit_n and_o where_o they_o have_v determine_v matter_n of_o faith_n or_o practice_n we_o look_v upon_o it_o as_o arrogance_n and_o presumption_n in_o any_o other_o to_o alter_v what_o they_o have_v declare_v and_o for_o the_o age_n since_o we_o have_v a_o much_o great_a esteem_n for_o those_o near_a the_o apostolical_a time_n and_o so_o downward_o till_o ignorance_n ambition_n and_o private_a interest_n sway_v too_o much_o among_o those_o who_o be_v call_v the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o those_o who_o be_v member_n of_o it_o at_o the_o same_o time_n which_o make_v we_o not_o to_o wonder_v that_o such_o corruption_n of_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n shall_v then_o come_v in_o but_o we_o do_v just_o wonder_v at_o the_o sincerity_n of_o those_o who_o will_v not_o have_v they_o reform_v and_o take_v away_o 7._o in_o matter_n impose_v upon_o we_o to_o believe_v or_o practice_v which_o be_v repugnant_a to_o plain_a command_n of_o scripture_n or_o the_o evidence_n offence_n or_o the_o ground_n of_o christian_a religion_n we_o assert_v that_o no_o authority_n of_o the_o present_a guide_n of_o a_o church_n be_v to_o over-rule_v our_o faith_n or_o practice_n for_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n so_o plain_a that_o no_o man_n will_v be_v guide_v by_o another_o opinion_n in_o they_o if_o any_o philosopher_n do_v think_v his_o authority_n ought_v to_o over-rule_v a_o ignorant_a man_n opinion_n in_o say_v the_o snow_n which_o he_o see_v to_o be_v white_a be_v not_o so_o i_o will_v fain_o know_v whether_o that_o man_n do_v better_a to_o believe_v his_o eye_n or_o the_o prudent_a experience_a philosopher_n i_o be_o certain_a if_o i_o destroy_v the_o evidence_n of_o sense_n i_o must_v overthrow_v the_o ground_n of_o christian_a religion_n and_o i_o be_o as_o certain_a if_o i_o believe_v that_o not_o to_o be_v bread_n which_o my_o sense_n tell_v i_o be_v so_o i_o must_v destroy_v the_o great_a evidence_n of_o sense_n and_o which_o be_v fit_a for_o i_o to_o reject_v that_o evidence_n which_o assure_v my_o christianity_n to_o i_o or_o that_o authority_n which_o by_o its_o imposition_n on_o my_o faith_n overthrow_v the_o certainty_n of_o sense_n we_o do_v not_o say_v that_o we_o be_v to_o reject_v any_o doctrine_n deliver_v in_o scripture_n which_o concern_v a_o be_v infinite_o above_o our_o understanding_n because_o we_o can_v comprehend_v all_o thing_n contain_v in_o it_o but_o in_o matter_n liable_a to_o sense_n and_o the_o proper_a object_n of_o it_o we_o must_v beg_v pardon_n if_o we_o prefer_v the_o ground_n of_o our_o common_a christianity_n before_o a_o novel_a and_o monstrous_a figment_n hatch_v in_o the_o time_n of_o ignorance_n and_o barbarism_n foster_v by_o faction_n and_o impose_v by_o tyranny_n we_o find_v no_o command_n so_o plain_a in_o scripture_n that_o we_o must_v believe_v the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o they_o deliver_v as_o there_o be_v that_o we_o must_v not_o worship_v image_n that_o we_o must_v pray_v with_o understanding_n that_o we_o must_v keep_v to_o our_o saviour_n institution_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o if_o any_o guide_n of_o a_o church_n pretend_v to_o a_o authority_n to_o evacuate_v the_o force_n of_o these_o law_n we_o do_v not_o so_o much_o reject_v their_o authority_n as_o prefer_v god_n above_o they_o do_v that_o man_n destroy_v the_o authority_n of_o parent_n that_o refuse_v to_o obey_v they_o when_o they_o command_v he_o to_o commit_v treason_n that_o be_v our_o case_n in_o this_o matter_n suppose_v such_o guide_n of_o a_o church_n which_o otherwise_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o obey_v if_o they_o require_v thing_n contrary_a to_o a_o direct_a command_n of_o god_n must_v we_o prefer_v their_o guidance_n before_o god_n if_o they_o can_v prove_v we_o mistake_v we_o yield_v but_o till_o then_o the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n must_v be_v submit_v to_o rather_o than_o our_o own_o reason_n but_o whether_o god_n authority_n or_o they_o must_v be_v obey_v and_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v whether_o there_o be_v not_o some_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o some_o part_n of_o our_o duty_n so_o plain_a that_o no_o church-authority_n determine_v the_o contrary_a aught_o to_o be_v obey_v 8._o no_o absolute_a submission_n can_v be_v due_a to_o those_o guide_n of_o a_o church_n who_o have_v oppose_v and_o contradict_v each_o other_o and_o condemn_v one_o an●ther_n for_o error_n and_o here●y_n for_o then_o in_o case_n of_o absolute_a submission_n a_o man_n must_v yield_v his_o assent_n to_o contradiction_n and_o for_o the_o same_o reason_n that_o he_o be_v to_o be_v a_o catholic_n at_o one_o time_n he_o must_v be_v a_o heretic_n at_o another_o i_o hope_v the_o guide_n of_o the_o present_a church_n pretend_v to_o no_o more_o infallibility_n and_o authority_n than_o their_o predecessor_n in_o the_o same_o capacity_n with_o themselves_o have_v have_v and_o we_o say_v they_o have_v contradict_v the_o sense_n of_o those_o before_o they_o in_o the_o matter_n in_o dispute_n between_o we_o yet_o that_o be_v not_o the_o thing_n i_o now_o insist_v upon_o but_o that_o these_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n have_v declare_v each_o other_o to_o be_v fallible_a by_o condemn_v their_o opinion_n and_o practice_n and_o by_o that_o mean_n have_v make_v it_o necessary_a for_o man_n to_o believe_v those_o not_o to_o be_v infallible_a unless_o both_o part_n of_o a_o contradiction_n may_v be_v infallible_o true_a suppose_v a_o man_n live_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o prevalency_n of_o arrianism_n when_o almost_o all_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n declare_v in_o favour_n of_o it_o when_o several_a great_a council_n oppose_v and_o contradict_v that_o of_o nice_n when_o pope_n liberius_n do_v subscribe_v the_o sirmian_n confession_n and_o communicate_v with_o the_o arrian_n what_o advice_n will_v n._n o._n give_v such_o a_o one_o if_o he_o must_v not_o exercise_v his_o own_o judgement_n and_o compare_v both_o the_o doctrine_n by_o the_o rule_n of_o scripture_n must_v he_o follow_v the_o present_a guide_n even_o the_o pope_n himself_o then_o he_o must_v
ancient_a creed_n we_o allow_v on_o both_o side_n to_o have_v be_v universal_o receive_v by_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o now_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n add_v new_a article_n to_o be_v believe_v we_o desire_v to_o put_v the_o whole_a matter_n upon_o this_o issue_n let_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n the_o roman_a church_n infallibility_n the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n purgatory_n etc._n etc._n be_v prove_v by_o as_o universal_a consent_n of_o antiquity_n as_o the_o article_n of_o the_o creed_n be_v and_o then_o let_v they_o charge_v we_o with_o heresy_n if_o we_o reject_v they_o but_o we_o say_v the_o measure_n of_o heresy_n in_o the_o ancient_a church_n be_v the_o reject_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n universal_o receive_v among_o christian_n this_o rule_n of_o faith_n we_o stand_v to_o and_o say_v no_o other_o can_v be_v make_v upon_o any_o pretence_n whatsoever_o 35._o as_o vincentius_n at_o large_a prove_n but_o what_o ever_o thing_n be_v obtrude_v on_o the_o belief_n of_o christian_n which_o want_v that_o universal_a consent_n of_o antiquity_n which_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n have_v we_o be_v bind_v by_o vincentius_n from_o plain_a scripture_n to_o shun_v they_o as_o profane_a novelty_n and_o corruption_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n these_o rule_v therefore_o be_v not_o bare_o allow_v but_o plead_v for_o by_o we_o in_o the_o test_n of_o article_n of_o faith_n as_o to_o which_o vincentius_n tell_v we_o if_o not_o the_o only_a yet_o the_o chief_a use_n of_o they_o be_v 2._o but_o suppose_v the_o question_n be_v not_o concern_v the_o express_a article_n of_o this_o rule_n of_o faith_n but_o concern_v the_o sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o they_o how_o then_o be_v we_o to_o find_v out_o the_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n for_o they_o may_v all_o agree_v in_o the_o word_n and_o yet_o have_v a_o different_a notion_n of_o the_o thing_n praefat_fw-la as_o petavius_n at_o large_a prove_n that_o there_o be_v a_o ancient_a tradition_n for_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n and_o yet_o he_o confess_v that_o most_o of_o the_o writer_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n do_v differ_v in_o their_o explication_n of_o it_o from_o that_o which_o be_v only_o allow_v by_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a 2._o and_o he_o grant_v that_o arius_n do_v follow_v the_o opinion_n of_o many_o of_o the_o ancient_n in_o the_o main_a of_o his_o doctrine_n who_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o same_o error_n that_o he_o be_v before_o the_o matter_n be_v thorough_o discuss_v here_o now_o arise_v the_o great_a difficulty_n to_o i_o in_o this_o point_n of_o tradition_n the_o usefulness_n of_o it_o i_o be_o tell_v be_v for_o explain_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n but_o there_o begin_v a_o great_a controversy_n in_o the_o church_n about_o the_o explication_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n i_o desire_v to_o know_v whether_o vincentius_n his_o rule_n will_v help_v we_o here_o 1_o it_o be_v plead_v by_o st._n hierome_n and_o other_o that_o the_o writer_n of_o the_o church_n may_v err_v in_o this_o matter_n or_o speak_v unwary_o in_o it_o before_o the_o matter_n come_v to_o be_v thorough_o discuss_v if_o so_o how_o come_v the_o testimony_n of_o erroneous_a or_o unwary_a writer_n to_o be_v the_o certain_a mean_n of_o give_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n and_o in_o most_o of_o the_o controversy_n of_o the_o church_n this_o way_n have_v be_v use_v to_o take_v off_o the_o testimony_n of_o person_n who_o write_v before_o the_o controversy_n begin_v and_o speak_v different_o of_o the_o matter_n in_o debate_n i_o do_v not_o deny_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o allegation_n in_o behalf_n of_o those_o person_n but_o to_o my_o understanding_n it_o plain_o show_v the_o incompetency_n of_o tradition_n for_o give_v a_o certain_a sense_n of_o scripture_n when_o that_o tradition_n be_v to_o be_v take_v from_o the_o writer_n of_o the_o forego_n age_n and_o if_o this_o have_v be_v the_o only_a way_n of_o confute_v arius_n it_o be_v a_o great_a question_n how_o he_o can_v ever_o have_v be_v condemn_v if_o petavius_n or_o st._n hierome_n say_v true_a but_o since_o a_o general_n council_n have_v determine_v the_o contrary_a to_o the_o opinion_n of_o these_o writer_n before_o which_o council_n have_v be_v receive_v by_o the_o universal_a church_n i_o will_v not_o deny_v that_o they_o have_v better_a opportunity_n of_o know_v what_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n be_v when_o so_o many_o write_n be_v extant_a which_o be_v now_o lose_v than_o we_o can_v have_v at_o this_o distance_n and_o therefore_o we_o yield_v all_o submission_n to_o a_o council_n of_o that_o nature_n and_o proceed_n in_o that_o manner_n which_o that_o of_o nice_n do_v who_o do_v not_o mere_o determine_v that_o controversy_n by_o the_o number_n of_o writer_n on_o their_o side_n before_o they_o but_o by_o compare_v the_o opinion_n afterward_o with_o the_o rule_n of_o scripture_n and_o in_o this_o regard_n we_o acknowledge_v a_o great_a reverence_n due_a to_o the_o decree_n of_o such_o general_a council_n as_o that_o be_v therefore_o next_o to_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n we_o allow_v a_o great_a veneration_n to_o the_o determination_n of_o lawful_a general_n council_n universal_o receive_v which_o vincentius_n himself_o plead_v for_o but_o suppose_v no_o general_a council_n or_o such_o which_o be_v not_o allow_v or_o receive_v for_o such_o we_o be_v yet_o to_o inquire_v into_o the_o way_n of_o find_v out_o catholic_n tradition_n which_o may_v interpret_v scripture_n for_o this_o end_n he_o propose_v another_o mean_n which_o be_v the_o gather_v together_o the_o opinion_n of_o those_o father_n alone_a 39_o who_o live_v holy_o wise_o and_o constant_o in_o the_o faith_n and_o communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n have_v die_v in_o that_o faith_n or_o else_o for_o it_o but_o still_o with_o this_o reserve_n that_o what_o either_o all_o or_o many_o of_o they_o manifest_o frequent_o and_o constant_o as_o it_o be_v by_o a_o council_n of_o they_o have_v confirm_v by_o their_o receive_n hold_v and_o deliver_v of_o it_o that_o aught_o to_o be_v hold_v for_o undoubted_a certain_a and_o firm_a but_o whatsoever_o any_o one_o though_o holy_a and_o learned_a though_o a_o bishop_n confessor_n or_o martyr_n have_v hold_v against_o the_o opinion_n of_o other_o that_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v look_v on_o as_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n but_o as_o his_o own_o private_a opinion_n and_o therefore_o not_o to_o be_v follow_v which_o word_n i_o shall_v not_o examine_v with_o all_o the_o severity_n that_o some_o have_v do_v for_o then_o the_o prove_v these_o condition_n to_o have_v be_v observe_v by_o any_o one_o person_n will_v require_v more_o pain_n and_o be_v less_o capable_a of_o resolution_n than_o the_o matter_n itself_o be_v but_o i_o say_v that_o in_o most_o of_o the_o controversy_n this_o day_n in_o the_o christian_a world_n it_o may_v be_v much_o more_o satisfactory_a to_o examine_v the_o merit_n of_o the_o cause_n than_o the_o integrity_n of_o the_o witness_n these_o condition_n be_v suppose_v and_o yet_o after_o all_o this_o we_o must_v not_o misunderstand_v he_o as_o though_o this_o way_n will_v serve_v to_o confute_v all_o heresy_n for_o he_o tell_v we_o yet_o far_o 2._o this_o course_n can_v only_o hold_v in_o some_o new_a and_o upstart_a heresy_n i.e._n in_o case_n of_o the_o pretence_n of_o some_o new_a revelation_n when_o man_n pretend_v to_o some_o special_a grace_n without_o humane_a industry_n to_o discover_v some_o divine_a truth_n not_o know_v before_o 37._o but_o in_o case_n of_o ancient_a and_o inveterate_a heresy_n 39_o he_o say_v we_o have_v no_o way_n to_o deal_v with_o they_o but_o either_o only_a by_o scripture_n or_o else_o by_o plain_a decree_n of_o general_a council_n for_o when_o heresy_n have_v be_v of_o long_a continuance_n then_o say_v he_o we_o may_v have_v ground_n to_o suspect_v they_o have_v not_o deal_v fair_o with_o the_o testimony_n of_o ancient_a time_n and_o thus_o we_o see_v what_o vincentius_n have_v offer_v towards_o the_o resolution_n of_o this_o great_a question_n how_o we_o may_v be_v sure_a of_o the_o certain_a sense_n of_o scripture_n in_o controvert_v place_n wherein_o be_v nothing_o contain_v but_o what_o we_o be_v willing_a to_o stand_v to_o and_o very_o far_o from_o the_o least_o supposition_n of_o any_o infallibility_n in_o the_o present_a guide_n of_o the_o church_n for_o that_o end_n thus_o far_o i_o have_v take_v the_o pain_n to_o search_v into_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o this_o important_a controversy_n which_o i_o may_v carry_v yet_o far_o if_o it_o be_v at_o all_o needful_a the_o substance_n of_o what_o be_v deliver_v by_o they_o be_v this_o that_o if_o any_o controversy_n arise_v in_o the_o church_n concern_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n if_o the_o
with_o in_o the_o field_n and_o to_o speak_v truth_n n._n o._n seem_v to_o understand_v his_o art_n better_o than_o to_o meddle_v with_o such_o heavy_a and_o antique_a armour_n which_o every_o one_o have_v be_v foil_v with_o that_o have_v undertake_v to_o combat_v with_o they_o only_o it_o seem_v a_o little_a for_o the_o credit_n of_o their_o cause_n to_o point_v to_o such_o a_o magazine_n which_o in_o the_o day_n of_o ignorance_n and_o credulity_n the_o romantic_a age_n of_o the_o church_n be_v in_o great_a request_n but_o we_o must_v now_o buckle_v ourselves_o to_o a_o new_a manner_n of_o combat_n which_o be_v from_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o of_o the_o very_a same_o nature_n with_o what_o we_o have_v for_o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n this_o i_o confess_v be_v bright_a shine_a armour_n and_o may_v do_v great_a service_n if_o it_o will_v hold_v but_o that_o must_v be_v judge_v upon_o trial_n which_o i_o now_o set_v myself_o to_o but_o we_o shall_v find_v that_o no_o weapon_n form_v against_o truth_n can_v prosper_v and_o it_o have_v be_v long_o observe_v of_o rome_n that_o it_o can_v never_o endure_v a_o close_a siege_n the_o question_n now_o be_v whether_o they_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v the_o same_o universal_a tradition_n for_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o guide_n of_o it_o w_z ch_z we_o have_v for_o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n w_z ch_z he_o assert_v it_o be_v i_o suppose_v agree_v on_o both_o side_n that_o the_o tradition_n on_o w_z ch_z we_o receive_v and_o believe_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v universal_a as_o to_o all_o age_n and_o time_n of_o the_o church_n that_o from_o the_o beginning_n all_o dispute_v in_o religion_n among_o true_a christian_n be_v build_v upon_o the_o supposition_n of_o it_o that_o in_o no_o age_n any_o person_n be_v allow_v to_o be_v good_a christian_n who_o make_v doubt_n of_o it_o that_o every_o age_n do_v afford_v plentiful_a testimony_n of_o the_o belief_n of_o it_o this_o be_v that_o universal_a tradition_n we_o receive_v the_o scripture_n upon_o and_o let_v any_o thing_n like_o this_o be_v produce_v for_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o guide_n of_o their_o church_n and_o we_o yield_v up_o the_o cause_n to_o they_o can_v any_o fair_a term_n than_o these_o be_v desire_v but_o we_o expect_v proof_n and_o so_o i_o perceive_v we_o may_v do_v to_o the_o world_n end_n i_o commend_v the_o ingenuity_n of_o n._n o._n for_o endeavour_v to_o escape_v out_o of_o the_o circle_n any_o way_n but_o i_o believe_v they_o think_v themselves_o as_o wise_a who_o still_o dance_n within_o it_o know_v the_o impossibility_n of_o do_v any_o good_a in_o this_o other_o way_n the_o only_a argument_n he_o insist_o upon_o be_v so_o weak_a that_o i_o wonder_v he_o have_v not_o consider_v how_o often_o it_o have_v be_v answer_v by_o their_o own_o writer_n for_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o provincial_a council_n as_o well_o as_o general_n have_v anathematise_v dissenter_n and_o pronounce_v they_o heretic_n which_o be_v his_o only_a argument_n to_o prove_v this_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n infallibility_n 10._o and_o they_o have_v no_o way_n to_o answer_v it_o but_o by_o say_v this_o do_v not_o imply_v their_o infallibility_n and_o if_o it_o do_v not_o in_o the_o case_n of_o provincial_a council_n why_o shall_v he_o think_v it_o do_v in_o the_o case_n of_o general_n for_o the_o anathema_n of_o provincial_a council_n do_v not_o relate_v to_o the_o acceptation_n of_o their_o decree_n either_o by_o the_o pope_n or_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o n._n o._n suppose_n but_o do_v proceed_v upon_o their_o own_o assurance_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o what_o they_o decree_v otherwise_o their_o anathema_n will_v have_v be_v only_o conditional_a and_o not_o absolute_a and_o peremptory_a as_o we_o see_v they_o be_v but_o i_o need_v give_v no_o other_o answer_n to_o this_o argument_n than_o in_o the_o word_n of_o dr._n field_n who_o n._n o._n appeal_v to_o before_o 4._o viz._n that_o council_n denounce_v anathema_n not_o because_o they_o think_v every_o one_o that_o disobey_v the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n to_o be_v accurse_v but_o because_o they_o be_v persuade_v in_o particular_a that_o this_o be_v the_o eternal_a truth_n of_o god_n which_o they_o propose_v therefore_o they_o accurse_v they_o that_o obstinate_o shall_v resist_v as_o st._n paul_n will_v every_o christian_a man_n to_o anathematise_v a_o angel_n come_v from_o heaven_n if_o he_o shall_v teach_v he_o any_o other_o doctrine_n than_o he_o have_v already_o learned_a yet_o be_v not_o every_o particular_a christian_a free_a from_o possibility_n of_o err_a if_o the_o argument_n than_o be_v good_a from_o anathematise_v dissenter_n and_o call_v they_o heretic_n every_o particular_a person_n must_v by_o it_o be_v prove_v infallible_a who_o be_v bind_v to_o anathematise_v even_o angel_n from_o heaven_n in_o case_n of_o deliver_v any_o other_o doctrine_n from_o the_o gospel_n so_o that_o this_o which_o be_v his_o only_a argument_n in_o stead_n of_o prove_v a_o universal_a tradition_n will_v prove_v a_o universal_a infallibility_n let_v the_o reader_n now_o judge_v in_o his_o conscience_n whether_o here_o be_v any_o thing_n offer_v in_o the_o way_n of_o tradition_n for_o the_o church_n infallibility_n that_o may_v bear_v the_o least_o proportion_n with_o the_o tradition_n on_o which_o we_o receive_v the_o scripture_n and_o yet_o if_o this_o have_v be_v true_a it_o have_v be_v almost_o impossible_a that_o any_o one_o age_n shall_v have_v pass_v without_o remarkable_a testimony_n of_o it_o for_o no_o age_n of_o the_o church_n have_v be_v so_o happy_a as_o not_o to_o have_v occasion_n for_o a_o infallible_a judge_n of_o controversy_n if_o any_o such_o have_v be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n and_o therefore_o it_o can_v be_v imagine_v but_o that_o christian_n must_v in_o all_o controversy_n arise_v have_v appeal_v to_o he_o and_o stand_v to_o his_o determination_n which_o must_v have_v be_v as_o well_o know_v in_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n as_o judge_n try_v cause_n in_o westminster_n hall_n but_o i_o challenge_v he_o to_o produce_v any_o one_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n to_o this_o day_n wherein_o the_o infallibility_n of_o a_o stand_a judge_n of_o controversy_n appoint_v by_o christ_n have_v be_v receive_v by_o as_o universal_a a_o consent_n as_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n have_v be_v in_o that_o very_a age._n nay_o i_o except_v not_o that_o age_n which_o have_v be_v since_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n for_o the_o scripture_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n have_v be_v receive_v of_o all_o side_n but_o the_o infallibility_n of_o a_o stand_a judge_n be_v utter_o deny_v by_o one_o side_n and_o vehement_o dispute_v between_o several_a party_n on_o the_o other_o some_o make_v only_o the_o essential_a church_n infallible_a other_o the_o representative_a in_o council_n other_o again_o the_o virtual_a viz._n the_o pope_n and_o suppose_v any_o infallible_a judge_n necessary_a it_o stand_v to_o reason_v it_o shall_v be_v rather_o in_o one_o than_o in_o a_o multitude_n and_o rather_o in_o a_o constant_a succession_n of_o bishop_n in_o one_o see_v than_o in_o a_o uncertain_a number_n who_o can_v be_v convene_v together_o as_o often_o as_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o church_n may_v require_v but_o this_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v receive_v as_o a_o universal_a tradition_n in_o that_o very_a age_n wherein_o we_o live_v that_o only_o one_o busy_a party_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v maintain_v it_o many_o other_o eager_o oppose_v it_o and_o all_o the_o prince_n and_o state_n in_o christendom_n do_v in_o their_o action_n if_o not_o in_o word_n deny_v it_o and_o be_v not_o this_o now_o a_o universal_a tradition_n fit_a to_o be_v match_v with_o that_o of_o the_o scripture_n i_o have_v once_o think_v to_o have_v bring_v testimony_n o●t_v of_o every_o age_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n manifest_o disprove_v any_o such_o tradition_n of_o infallibility_n and_o that_o not_o only_o of_o private_a person_n when_o there_o be_v no_o council_n but_o from_o the_o most_o solemn_a act_n of_o council_n and_o the_o confession_n of_o their_o own_o writer_n but_o that_o will_v swell_v this_o answer_n to_o too_o great_a a_o bulk_n and_o be_v not_o needful_a where_o so_o very_o little_o be_v offer_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o and_o yet_o i_o shall_v be_v ready_a to_o do_v it_o when_o any_o thing_n more_o important_a require_v it_o i_o now_o return_v to_o his_o exception_n against_o the_o latter_a part_n of_o the_o former_a proposition_n viz._n that_o infallibility_n in_o a_o body_n of_o man_n be_v as_o liable_a to_o doubt_n and_o dispute_v as_o in_o those_o book_n from_o whence_o only_o they_o derive_v their_o infallibility_n the_o plain_a meaning_n of_o which_o
baptism_n be_v only_o in_o the_o true_a church_n for_o in_o the_o 19_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a the_o samosatenian_a baptism_n be_v pronounce_v null_n and_o the_o person_n who_o receive_v it_o be_v to_o be_v new_a baptise_a 8._o and_o the_o first_o council_n of_o arles_n decree_n that_o in_o case_n of_o heresy_n man_n be_v to_o receive_v new_a baptism_n but_o not_o otherwise_o the_o second_o council_n of_o arles_n put_v a_o distinction_n between_o heretic_n 17._o decree_a that_o the_o photinian_o and_o samosatenian_o shall_v be_v baptise_a again_o but_o not_o the_o bonofiaci_n no●_n the_o arian_n but_o they_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v upon_o renounce_v their_o heresy_n without_o baptism_n which_o seem_v the_o hard_a to_o understand_v since_o the_o bonosiaci_n be_v no_o other_o than_o photinian_o the_o most_o probable_a way_n of_o solve_v it_o be_v that_o these_o two_o latter_a sort_n do_v preserve_v the_o form_n of_o baptism_n entire_a but_o the_o photinian_o and_o samosatenian_o alter_v it_o which_o st._n augustin_n say_v 44._o be_v a_o thing_n to_o be_v believe_v so_o gennadius_n report_v it_o that_o those_o who_o be_v baptise_a without_o invocation_n of_o the_o b._n trinity_n be_v to_o he_o baptise_a upon_o their_o reception_n into_o the_o church_n not_o rebaptise_v because_o the_o former_a be_v account_v null_n of_o these_o he_o reckon_v not_o only_o the_o paulianist_n and_o photinian_o 52._o but_o the_o bon●s●●ci_n too_o and_o many_o other_o ●●●●●loch_n but_o st._n basil_n determine_v the_o case_n of_o baptism_n not_o from_o the_o form_n but_o from_o the_o faith_n which_o they_o profess_v a_o schismatical_a baptism_n he_o faith_n be_v allow_v but_o not_o heretical_a by_o which_o he_o mean_v such_o as_o deny_v the_o trinity_n and_o therein_o he_o say_v s._n cyprian_n and_o firmilian_a be_v to_o blame_v because_o they_o will_v allow_v no_o baptism_n among_o person_n separate_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n 8._o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n decree_v that_o the_o novatian_o photinian_o and_o quartodecimans_a be_v to_o be_v receive_v without_o new_a baptism_n but_o not_o the_o montanist_n or_o cataphryges_n but_o binius_fw-la say_v there_o be_v one_o copy_n wherein_o the_o photinian_o be_v leave_v out_o and_o then_o these_o canon_n may_v agree_v with_o the_o rest_n and_o baronius_n assert_n that_o the_o great_a number_n of_o m._n s._n copy_n leave_v out_o photinian_o and_o withal_o he_o prove_v append._n that_o the_o church_n do_v never_o allow_v the_o baptism_n of_o the_o photinian_o though_o it_o do_v of_o the_o arian_n by_o which_o we_o see_v that_o the_o church_n afterward_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o which_o stephen_n pretend_v to_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n viz._n that_o no_o heretic_n shall_v be_v rebaptise_v and_o from_o hence_o we_o may_v conclude_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v far_o from_o be_v think_v a_o infallible_a guide_n or_o interpreter_n of_o scripture_n either_o by_o that_o or_o succeed_a age_n when_o not_o only_o single_a person_n that_o be_v eminent_a guide_n of_o the_o church_n such_o as_o the_o african_a and_o eastern_a bishop_n be_v oppose_v his_o doctrine_n and_o slight_v his_o excommunication_n but_o several_a council_n call_v both_o in_o the_o east_n and_o africa_n and_o the_o most_o eminent_a council_n of_o the_o church_n afterward_o such_o as_o the_o first_o of_o arles_n and_o nice_a decree_v contrary_a to_o what_o he_o declare_v to_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n in_o the_o same_o age_n we_o meet_v with_o another_o great_a controversy_n about_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n for_o paulus_n samosatenus_fw-la open_o deny_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n and_o assert_v the_o doctrine_n of_o it_o to_o be_v repugnant_a to_o scripture_n and_o the_o ancient_a apostolical_a tradition_n for_o this_o paulus_n revive_v the_o heresy_n of_o artemon_n 28._o who_o follower_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o fragment_n of_o a_o ancient_a writer_n against_o they_o in_o eusebius_n suppose_v to_o be_v caius_z plead_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v of_o their_o mind_n and_o that_o their_o doctrine_n continue_v in_o the_o church_n till_o the_o time_n of_o victor_n and_o then_o it_o begin_v to_o be_v corrupt_v which_o say_v that_o writer_n will_v seem_v probable_a if_o the_o holy_a scripture_n do_v not_o first_o contradict_v they_o and_o the_o book_n of_o several_a christian_n before_o victor_n time_n so_o that_o we_o see_v the_o main_a of_o the_o controversy_n do_v depend_v upon_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n which_o be_v plead_v on_o both_o side_n but_o what_o course_n be_v take_v in_o this_o important_a controversy_n to_o find_v out_o the_o certain_a sense_n of_o scripture_n do_v they_o appeal_v to_o any_o infallible_a guide_n nothing_o like_o it_o but_o in_o the_o council_n of_o antioch_n in_o the_o write_n of_o dionysius_n of_o alexandria_n and_o other_o since_o they_o who_o oppose_v the_o samosatenian_a doctrine_n endeavour_v with_o all_o their_o strength_n to_o prove_v that_o to_o be_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o scripture_n which_o assert_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ._n it_o be_v great_a pity_n the_o dispute_n of_o malchion_n with_o paulus_n be_v now_o lose_v which_o be_v extant_a in_o eusebius_n his_o time_n but_o in_o the_o question_n and_o answer_n between_o paulus_n and_o dionysius_n 30._o which_o valesius_fw-la without_o reason_n suspect_v since_o st._n hierome_n mention_n his_o epistle_n against_o paulus_n the_o dispute_n be_v about_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o scripture_n which_o both_o plead_v for_o themselves_o paulus_n insist_o on_o those_o place_n which_o speak_v of_o the_o humane_a infirmity_n of_o christ_n which_o he_o say_v prove_v that_o he_o be_v mere_a man_n and_o not_o god_n the_o other_o answer_v that_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o inconsistent_a with_o the_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a nature_n since_o expression_n imply_v humane_a passion_n be_v attribute_v to_o god_n in_o scripture_n but_o he_o prove_v from_o multitude_n of_o scripture_n and_o reason_n draw_v from_o they_o that_o the_o divine_a nature_n be_v attribute_v to_o christ_n and_o therefore_o the_o other_o place_n which_o seem_v repugnant_a to_o it_o be_v to_o be_v interpret_v in_o a_o sense_n agreeable_a thereto_o the_o same_o course_n be_v likewise_o take_v by_o epiphanius_n against_o this_o heresy_n 5._o who_o say_v the_o christian_n way_n of_o answer_v difficulty_n be_v not_o from_o their_o own_o reason_n but_o from_o the_o scope_n and_o consequence_n of_o scripture_n 6._o and_o particular_o add_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n be_v careful_o deliver_v in_o the_o scripture_n because_o god_n foresee_v the_o many_o heresy_n which_o will_v arise_v about_o it_o but_o never_o any_o controversy_n about_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n disturb_v the_o church_n more_o than_o that_o which_o the_o arian_n raise_v and_o if_o ever_o any_o have_v reason_n to_o think_v of_o some_o certain_a and_o infallible_a way_n of_o find_v out_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n the_o catholic_n christian_n of_o that_o age_n have_v i_o shall_v therefore_o give_v a_o account_n of_o what_o way_n the_o best_a writer_n of_o the_o church_n in_o that_o time_n take_v to_o find_v out_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n in_o the_o controvert_v place_n of_o all_o the_o writer_n against_o they_o athanasius_n have_v just_o the_o great_a esteem_n and_o petavius_n say_v that_o god_n inspire_v he_o with_o great_a skill_n in_o this_o controversy_n than_o any_o other_o before_o he_o the_o principle_n he_o go_v upon_o in_o all_o his_o dispute_n against_o the_o arian_n be_v this_o that_o our_o true_a faith_n be_v build_v upon_o the_o scripture_n so_o in_o several_a place_n of_o his_o conference_n with_o the_o arian_n and_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o epistle_n to_o jovianus_n and_o elsewhere_o therefore_o in_o the_o entrance_n of_o his_o disputation_n against_o the_o arian_n he_o advise_v all_o that_o will_v secure_v themselves_o from_o the_o imposture_n of_o heretic_n 287._o to_o study_v the_o scripture_n because_o those_o who_o be_v verse_v therein_o stand_v firm_a against_o all_o their_o assault_n but_o they_o who_o look_v only_o at_o the_o word_n without_o understand_v the_o meaning_n of_o they_o be_v easy_o seduce_v by_o they_o and_o this_o counsel_n he_o give_v after_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a have_v decree_v the_o arian_n doctrine_n to_o be_v heresy_n and_o although_o he_o say_v other_o way_n may_v be_v use_v to_o confute_v it_o yet_o because_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v more_o sufficient_a than_o all_o of_o they_o therefore_o those_o who_o will_v be_v better_o instruct_v in_o these_o thing_n i_o will_v advise_v they_o to_o be_v conversant_a in_o the_o divine_a oracle_n but_o do_v not_o the_o arian_n plead_v scripture_n as_o well_o as_o they_o how_o then_o can_v the_o scripture_n end_v this_o controversy_n which_o do_v arise_v about_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n this_o objection_n which_o be_v now_o make_v so_o much_o
council_n whether_o that_o of_o arles_n or_o nice_a be_v not_o to_o my_o purpose_n to_o inquire_v and_o we_o shall_v then_o see_v what_o his_o opinion_n be_v of_o the_o church_n infallibility_n by_o that_o which_o he_o deliver_v of_o general_a council_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o church_n authority_n compare_v with_o the_o scripture_n in_o these_o remarkable_a word_n who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o sacred_a canonical_a scripture_n be_v contain_v within_o its_o certain_a bound_n 3_o and_o be_v so_o far_o to_o be_v prefer_v before_o all_o latter_a write_n of_o bishop_n that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o doubt_n or_o dispute_v at_o all_o make_v whether_o that_o be_v true_a or_o right_o which_o be_v contain_v therein_o but_o all_o latter_a write_n of_o bishop_n which_o have_v be_v or_o be_v write_v since_o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n have_v be_v confirm_v may_v be_v correct_v if_o in_o any_o thing_n they_o err_v from_o the_o truth_n either_o by_o the_o wise_a discourse_n of_o any_o more_o skilful_a person_n or_o the_o weighty_a authority_n of_o other_o bishop_n or_o the_o prudence_n of_o more_o learned_a man_n or_o by_o council_n and_o even_o council_n themselves_o that_o be_v provincial_a yield_v without_o dispute_n to_o those_o which_o be_v general_n and_o call_v out_o of_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n and_o of_o these_o general_a council_n the_o former_a be_v often_o amend_v by_o the_o latter_a when_o by_o some_o far_a trial_n of_o thing_n that_o which_o be_v shut_v be_v lay_v open_a and_o that_o which_o be_v hide_v be_v make_v know_v without_o any_o swell_n of_o sacrilegious_a pride_n or_o stifness_n of_o arrogancy_n or_o contentin_n of_o envy_n but_o with_o holy_a humility_n catholic_n peace_n and_o christian_a charity_n can_v any_o one_o that_o read_v this_o excellent_a testimony_n of_o st._n augustin_n deliver_v in_o this_o same_o matter_n ever_o imagine_v he_o can_v so_o plain_o contradict_v himself_o as_o to_o assert_v the_o church_n infallibility_n in_o one_o place_n and_o destroy_v it_o in_o another_o will_v he_o assert_v that_o all_o council_n how_o general_n soever_o may_v be_v amend_v by_o follow_a council_n and_o yet_o bind_v man_n to_o believe_v that_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o former_a council_n do_v contain_v the_o unalterable_a will_n of_o god_n a_o lesser_a person_n than_o st._n augustin_n will_v never_o thus_o direct_o contradict_v himself_o and_o that_o about_o the_o very_a same_o controversy_n which_o word_n of_o he_o can_v be_v understand_v of_o unlawful_a council_n of_o matter_n of_o fact_n or_o practice_n but_o do_v refer_v to_o the_o great_a question_n then_o in_o debate_n about_o rebaptise_v heretic_n and_o hereby_o he_o take_v off_o the_o great_a plea_n the_o donatist_n make_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o st._n cyprian_a and_o his_o council_n which_o they_o continual_o urge_v for_o themselves_o 3._o he_o grant_v that_o the_o argument_n draw_v from_o the_o church_n authority_n be_v but_o humane_a and_o that_o satisfaction_n be_v to_o be_v take_v from_o the_o scripture_n in_o this_o controversy_n 4._o for_o mention_v the_o obscurity_n of_o this_o question_n and_o the_o great_a debate_n that_o have_v be_v about_o it_o before_o the_o donatists_n time_n among_o great_a and_o good_a man_n and_o diverse_a resolution_n of_o council_n and_o the_o settlement_n of_o it_o at_o last_o by_o a_o plenary_a council_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n but_o lest_o say_v he_o i_o shall_v seem_v to_o make_v use_n only_o of_o humane_a argument_n i_o produce_v certain_a testimony_n out_o of_o the_o gospel_n by_o which_o god_n willing_a i_o demonstrate_v how_o true_a and_o agreeable_a to_o his_o will_n the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v 14._o and_o else_o where_o he_o appeal_v not_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o man_n but_o to_o the_o lord_n balance_n viz._n to_o his_o judgement_n deliver_v in_o scripture_n and_o in_o this_o same_o case_n when_o he_o be_v urge_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o cyprian_a 32._o he_o say_v there_o be_v no_o write_n they_o have_v not_o liberty_n to_o judge_v of_o but_o those_o of_o scripture_n and_o by_o they_o they_o be_v to_o judge_n of_o all_o other_o and_o what_o be_v agreeable_a to_o they_o they_o receive_v what_o be_v not_o they_o reject_v though_o write_v by_o person_n of_o never_o so_o great_a authority_n and_o after_o all_o this_o be_v it_o possible_a to_o believe_v that_o st._n augustin_n shall_v make_v the_o church_n decree_n in_o a_o general_n council_n infallible_a no_o the_o utmost_a by_o a_o careful_a consideration_n of_o his_o mind_n in_o this_o matter_n that_o i_o can_v find_v be_v that_o in_o a_o question_n of_o so_o doubtful_a and_o obscure_a a_o nature_n as_o that_o be_v which_o have_v be_v so_o long_o bandy_v in_o the_o church_n of_o africa_n and_o from_o thence_o spread_v over_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n it_o be_v a_o reasonable_a thing_n to_o presume_v that_o what_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n do_v consent_n in_o be_v the_o truth_n not_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o infallibility_n but_o the_o reasonable_a supposition_n that_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n will_v not_o consent_v in_o a_o thing_n repugnant_a to_o any_o apostolical_a doctrine_n or_o tradition_n and_o so_o st._n augustins_n meaning_n be_v the_o same_o with_o vincentius_n lerinensis_n as_o to_o the_o universal_a attestation_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n in_o a_o matter_n of_o tradition_n be_v declare_v by_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o general_n council_n and_o that_o decree_v universal_o receive_v but_o only_o by_o the_o litigant_fw-la party_n in_o africa_n to_o which_o purpose_n it_o be_v observable_a that_o he_o so_o often_o appeal_v to_o the_o universal_a consent_n of_o christian_n in_o this_o matter_n after_o it_o have_v be_v so_o thorough_o discuss_v and_o consider_v by_o the_o most_o wise_a and_o disinterest_v person_n bapt._n and_o that_o consent_v declare_v by_o a_o plenary_a council_n before_o himself_o be_v bear_v do●at_n so_o that_o if_o authority_n be_v to_o be_v rely_v upon_o in_o this_o obscure_a controversy_n 18._o he_o say_v 9_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v 10._o before_o that_o of_o several_a council_n in_o africa_n 7_o of_o the_o bishop_n and_o particular_o st._n cyprian_n who_o meet_v in_o they_o 4_o and_o whereas_o st._n cyprian_n have_v slight_v tradition_n in_o this_o matter_n 2._o christ_n have_v call_v himself_o truth_n and_o not_o custom_n 7._o st._n augustin_n reply_n to_o he_o that_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n have_v be_v always_o so_o and_o continue_v after_o such_o opposition_n and_o confirm_v by_o a_o general_n council_n and_o after_o examination_n of_o the_o reason_n and_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n on_o both_o side_n it_o may_v be_v now_o say_v that_o we_o follow_v what_o truth_n have_v declare_v wherein_o we_o see_v with_o what_o modesty_n and_o upon_o what_o ground_n he_o declare_v his_o mind_n which_o at_o last_o come_v to_o no_o more_o than_o vincentius_n his_o rule_n of_o antiquity_n universality_n and_o consent_n especial_o in_o such_o a_o matter_n as_o this_o be_v which_o have_v nothing_o but_o tradition_n to_o be_v plead_v for_o it_o the_o apostle_n 23._o have_v determine_v nothing_o of_o either_o side_n in_o their_o book_n as_o st_n augustin_n himself_o at_o last_o confess_v in_o this_o matter_n the_o most_o then_o that_o can_v be_v make_v of_o the_o testimony_n allege_v out_o of_o st._n augustin_n be_v this_o that_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o so_o doubtful_a and_o obscure_a a_o nature_n wherein_o the_o apostle_n have_v determine_v nothing_o in_o their_o write_n we_o be_v to_o believe_v that_o to_o be_v the_o truth_n which_o the_o universal_a church_n of_o christ_n agree_v in_o those_o time_n when_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v so_o well_o know_v by_o frequent_a discussion_n of_o the_o case_n and_o come_n at_o last_o to_o a_o resolution_n in_o a_o general_n council_n in_o such_o a_o case_n as_o this_o i_o agree_v to_o what_o st._n augustin_n say_v and_o think_v a_o man_n very_o much_o relieve_v by_o follow_v so_o evident_a a_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n not_o by_o virtue_n of_o any_o infallibility_n but_o the_o unreasonableness_n of_o believe_v so_o many_o so_o wise_a so_o disinterest_v person_n shall_v be_v deceive_v let_v the_o same_o evidence_n be_v produce_v for_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n from_o the_o apostolical_a time_n in_o the_o matter_n in_o dispute_n between_o our_o church_n and_o that_o of_o rome_n and_o the_o controversy_n of_o infallibility_n may_v be_v lay_v aside_o for_o such_o a_o universal_a consent_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n i_o look_v upon_o as_o the_o most_o authentic_a interpreter_n of_o holy_a scripture_n in_o doubtful_a and_o obscure_a place_n but_o let_v they_o never_o think_v to_o
be_v two_o jesuit_n the_o one_o send_v over_o a_o book_n which_o if_o we_o look_v only_o at_o the_o bulk_n and_o thickness_n be_v a_o very_a substantial_a one_o call_v by_o a_o odd_a antiphrasis_n reason_n and_o religion_n i_o have_v endeavour_v to_o draw_v off_o all_o the_o spirit_n i_o can_v find_v in_o it_o in_o the_o follow_a discourse_n but_o i_o be_o force_v to_o leave_v a_o vast_a quantity_n of_o phlegm_n and_o caput_fw-la mortuum_n behind_o i_o shall_v say_v no_o more_o of_o he_o here_o have_v occasion_n to_o speak_v so_o much_o of_o he_o in_o the_o discourse_n about_o the_o principle_n of_o faith_n which_o will_v in_o a_o little_a time_n be_v ready_a to_o appear_v the_o other_o be_v the_o stout_a defender_n of_o lgnatius_fw-la loyola_n and_o the_o whole_a order_n of_o jesuit_n what_o one_o man_n undertake_v to_o defend_v the_o jesuit_n as_o to_o their_o principle_n and_o practice_n and_o that_o in_o this_o age_n which_o so_o well_o understand_v their_o maxim_n and_o conduct_v and_o in_o england_n too_o where_o those_o of_o other_o order_n and_o the_o secular_a priest_n love_v they_o so_o dear_o but_o nothing_o be_v too_o brave_a or_o difficult_a for_o a_o jesuit_n to_o attempt_v however_o he_o come_v off_o in_o it_o as_o to_o ignatius_n loyola_n i_o will_v come_v to_o term_n with_o he_o if_o what_o he_o confess_v as_o to_o his_o ignorant_a zeal_n pious_a simplicity_n frequent_a vision_n and_o ecstasy_n extravagant_a preach_v unmannerly_a contempt_n of_o superior_n do_v not_o prove_v he_o a_o fanatic_a i_o be_o content_a to_o let_v he_o go_v but_o what_o if_o ignatius_n himself_o be_v grow_v old_a do_v suspect_v such_o frequent_a ecstasy_n and_o vision_n for_o illusion_n i_o desire_v he_o to_o look_v ribadineira_n ●_o in_o his_o large_a life_n to_o that_o purpose_n but_o this_o matter_n of_o fanaticism_n must_v be_v refer_v to_o another_o place_n i_o shall_v now_o only_o give_v a_o taste_n of_o the_o jesuit_n excellent_a way_n of_o defend_v the_o principle_n destructive_a to_o government_n which_o i_o charge_v his_o order_n with_o the_o first_o be_v that_o government_n be_v so_o original_o in_o the_o people_n that_o they_o by_o their_o representative_n may_v call_v their_o sovereign_n to_o a_o account_n and_o alter_v the_o form_n of_o government_n now_o mark_v this_o answer_n 38._o this_o principle_n whatsoever_o truth_n it_o may_v have_v in_o speculation_n be_v by_o no_o mean_n to_o be_v preach_v to_o the_o people_n who_o be_v apt_a enough_o of_o themselves_o to_o stretch_v case_n and_o pick_v quarrel_n with_o their_o best_a governor_n yet_o be_v it_o teach_v many_o age_n before_o the_o jesuit_n be_v so_o much_o as_o think_v of_o welfare_n the_o man_n for_o his_o plain-dealing_n the_o doctrine_n it_o seem_v be_v true_a enough_o but_o the_o people_n be_v not_o fit_a to_o be_v trust_v with_o the_o management_n of_o it_o no_o not_o in_o their_o place_n and_o calling_n no_o no_o let_v the_o jesuit_n alone_o with_o these_o thing_n they_o know_v just_o the_o very_a nick_n of_o time_n when_o to_o be_v judge_n and_o executioner_n too_o the_o next_o principle_n be_v the_o pope_n power_n of_o depose_v prince_n to_o which_o he_o again_o answer_v roundly_o 39_o you_o be_v then_o to_o know_v sir_n that_o the_o doctrine_n be_v long_o ago_o teach_v by_o almost_o all_o order_n and_o profession_n secular_o regulars_n divine_n lawyer_n before_o the_o jesuit_n be_v in_o be_v a_o very_a catholic_n doctrine_n it_o seem_v it_o be_v what_o a_o stir_v do_v other_o people_n make_v with_o mince_v this_o matter_n i_o know_v not_o how_o give_v i_o a_o man_n that_o speak_v out_o and_o let_v prince_n understand_v what_o their_o general_a doctrine_n be_v in_o this_o matter_n lest_o they_o may_v possible_o be_v deceive_v as_o though_o it_o be_v only_o the_o bold_a assertion_n of_o some_o few_o person_n among_o they_o what_o wonder_v then_o say_v he_o if_o bellarmin_n and_o 3._o or_o 4._o more_o jesuit_n be_v carry_v away_o with_o such_o a_o torrent_n of_o doctor_n who_o go_v before_o they_o nay_o in_o my_o opinion_n the_o only_a wonder_n be_v how_o any_o person_n among_o they_o dare_v think_v otherwise_o this_o doctrine_n have_v as_o he_o tell_v we_o so_o catholic_n a_o consent_n to_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o but_o in_o earnest_a sir_n be_v the_o doctrine_n true_a or_o false_a nay_o sir_n i_o beseech_v you_o to_o excuse_v i_o in_o that_o for_o as_o he_o say_v afterward_o about_o the_o pope_n power_n 〈◊〉_d absolve_a subject_n i_o beg_v leave_n to_o wave_v such_o curious_a controversy_n what_o 50._o a_o jesuit_n beg_v leave_v to_o wave_v curious_a controversy_n what_o be_v become_v 〈◊〉_d all_o their_o vast_a tome_n of_o scholastical_a an●_n casuistical_a divinity_n be_v no_o curious_a controversy_n handle_v in_o they_o an●_n be_v you_o breed_v up_o among_o they_o and_o yet_o ha●●_n controversy_n mere_o because_o curious_a no_o no_o we_o understand_v you_o better_o than_o so_o that_o be_v only_o a_o curious_a controversy_n with_o you_o which_o endanger_v your_o safety_n if_o you_o speak_v out_o for_o it_o be_v a_o needless_a kind_n of_o curiosity_n for_o a_o man_n to_o betray_v himself_o here_o in_o these_o practical_a country_n it_o be_v sometime_o dangerous_a speak_v truth_n in_o their_o sense_n but_o at_o such_o a_o speculative_a place_n as_o rome_n be_v there_o those_o may_v be_v wholesome_a and_o catholic_n truth_n which_o ●ere_z be_v but_o nicety_n and_o curiosity_n but_o do_v he_o not_o say_v 40._o the_o jesuit_n have_v solemn_o renounce_v the_o doctrine_n yes_o but_o have_v a_o care_n how_o far_o you_o believe_v he_o we_o poor_a simple_a islander_n may_v understand_v by_o this_o that_o they_o have_v declare_v it_o to_o be_v false_a and_o pernicious_a there_o be_v no_o such_o matter_n i_o will_v assure_v you_o but_o upon_o the_o stir_v in_o france_n they_o renounce_v the_o publish_n it_o they_o renounce_v it_o as_o they_o be_v in_o france_n but_o think_v it_o good_a doctrine_n at_o rome_n they_o be_v forbid_v to_o treat_v any_o more_o of_o it_o because_o of_o the_o odiousness_n of_o it_o to_o prince_n and_o that_o be_v all_o the_o renounce_n they_o ever_o mean_v the_o three_o principle_n be_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o kill_a king_n as_o to_o which_o he_o say_v he_o can_v name_v the_o person_n that_o ever_o teach_v it_o in_o those_o term_n a_o good_a reason_n for_o that_o because_o when_o they_o will_v have_v they_o kill_v they_o call_v they_o tyrant_n and_o so_o grant_v dominicus_n soto_n and_o marian_n have_v assert_v it_o he_o may_v have_v namse_n more_o if_o he_o have_v please_v i_o can_v not_o des●_n a_o more_o pleasant_a task_n than_o to_o pursue_v 〈◊〉_d through_o the_o remainder_n of_o his_o discourse_n wherein_o he_o undertake_v to_o vindicate_v the_o jesuit_n practice_n but_o these_o have_v be_v much_o expose_v by_o man_n of_o their_o own_o region_n that_o i_o may_v spare_v my_o pain_n in_o th●_n preface_n and_o we_o may_v easy_o guess_v h●_n hard_o he_o be_v put_v to_o it_o when_o he_o mak●_n the_o letter_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o angelopol_n to_o be_v forge_v at_o port-royal_a by_o the_o ja●_n senist_n and_o thus_o he_o have_v shift_v 〈◊〉_d fault_n from_o the_o indies_n to_o europe_n 〈◊〉_d to_o vindicate_v some_o papist_n there_o fre●_n idolatry_n 21._o he_o charge_v other_o here_o with_o forge●_n and_o ●et_v to_o this_o as_o a_o full_a answer_n the_o 〈◊〉_d answerer_n of_o the_o seasonable_a discour●_n do_v refer_v we_o and_o out_o of_o his_o admiral_n learning_n and_o skill_n in_o history_n desire_v 〈◊〉_d adversary_n for_o his_o satisfaction_n that_o the_o can_v be_v no_o danger_n of_o resume_v abbey_n lan●_n of_o popery_n shall_v return_v to_o go_v into_o germany_n where_o there_o be_v so_o many_o papist_n and_o protestant_n prince_n 13._o noble_a man_n and_o gentleman_n that_o have_v especial_o since_o the_o treaty_n at_o munster_n either_o bishopric_n abbey_n or_o the_o like_a confirm_v to_o they_o by_o the_o pope_n how_o confirm_v to_o they_o by_o the_o pope_n what_o will_v not_o these_o man_n dare_v to_o say_v i_o perceive_v ignorance_n serve_v they_o for_o other_o purpose_n than_o mere_o to_o be_v the_o mother_n of_o devotion_n if_o at_o least_o this_o worthy_a author_n can_v be_v ignorant_a of_o so_o notorious_a a_o thing_n as_o pope_n innocent_n bull_n publish_v on_o purpose_n to_o null_a the_o treaty_n at_o munster_n 1651._o as_o prejudicial_a to_o the_o catholic_n religion_n to_o the_o apostolical_a see_v to_o church_n and_o other_o holy_a place_n and_o person_n and_o ecclesiastical_a right_n in_o the_o body_n of_o the_o bull_n he_o say_v that_o his_o nuncio_n there_o who_o be_v afterward_o pope_n alexander_n the_o seve_v do_v protest_v against_o these_o article_n as_o void_a null_n unjust_a and_o agree_v upon_o by_o person_n that_o have_v no_o
testimony_n of_o scripture_n it_o must_v be_v make_v manifest_a to_o be_v the_o sense_n by_o clear_a evidence_n of_o reason_n 28._o but_o he_o rather_o approve_v the_o way_n of_o prove_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n by_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n where_o the_o interpretation_n be_v doubtful_a so_o that_o the_o way_n in_o doubtful_a place_n which_o he_o prescribe_v be_v this_o either_o to_o draw_v such_o a_o sense_n from_o they_o as_o have_v no_o dispute_n concern_v its_o be_v a_o true_a proposition_n or_o if_o it_o have_v that_o it_o be_v confirm_v by_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n beside_o these_o he_o lay_v down_o the_o 7._o rule_n of_o ticonius_n the_o donatist_n which_o be_v not_o of_o that_o consequence_n to_o be_v here_o repeat_v that_o which_o i_o take_v notice_n of_o be_v that_o st._n augustin_n think_v the_o rule_n he_o give_v sufficient_a for_o understand_v the_o meaning_n of_o scripture_n in_o doubtful_a place_n but_o he_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o mention_n the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n as_o a_o necessary_a mean_n for_o that_o end_n but_o he_o do_v assert_v in_o as_o plain_a term_n as_o i_o have_v do_v that_o scripture_n be_v plain_a in_o all_o necessary_n to_o salvation_n to_o any_o sober_a enquirer_n and_o what_o ever_o consequence_n be_v charge_v upon_o i_o for_o make_v that_o a_o fundamental_a principle_n must_v reflect_v as_o much_o upon_o st._n augustin_n as_o i_o and_o i_o do_v not_o fear_v all_o the_o objection_n can_v be_v make_v against_o a_o principle_n so_o evident_a to_o reason_n and_o so_o agreeable_a not_o only_o to_o st._n augustin_n but_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n both_o before_o and_o after_o he_o the_o next_o after_o st._n augustin_n who_o have_v purposely_o write_v of_o this_o argument_n about_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n be_v vincentius_n lerinensis_n 4._o about_o 4._o year_n after_o st._n augustins_n death_n and_o 3._o after_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n who_o seem_v to_o attribute_v more_o to_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n than_o st._n augustin_n do_v yet_o far_o enough_o short_a of_o infallibility_n he_o say_v that_o every_o man_n ought_v to_o strengthen_v his_o faith_n against_o heresy_n by_o two_o thing_n first_o by_o the_o authoriry_n of_o the_o divine_a law_n and_o then_o by_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n which_o tradition_n he_o make_v necessary_a not_o by_o way_n of_o addition_n to_o the_o scripture_n for_o he_o allow_v the_o perfection_n and_o sufficiency_n of_o that_o for_o all_o thing_n but_o only_o to_o interpret_v scripture_n by_o give_v a_o certain_a sense_n of_o it_o there_o be_v such_o different_a opinion_n among_o man_n about_o it_o for_o all_o the_o heretic_n who_o he_o there_o name_n have_v different_a sense_n of_o scripture_n as_o novatianus_n sabellius_n donatus_n arius_n macedonius_n photinus_n etc._n etc._n but_o then_o he_o bound_v this_o tradition_n within_o the_o compass_n of_o the_o universal_a consent_n of_o antiquity_n as_o well_o as_o the_o present_a church_n or_o as_o he_o express_v it_o within_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v believe_v every_o where_o always_o and_o by_o all_o person_n that_o we_o may_v therefore_o consider_v how_o far_o these_o rule_n of_o vincentius_n will_v serve_v for_o explain_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n we_o be_v to_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o restriction_n he_o lay_v upon_o they_o 1._o that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v take_v together_o and_o not_o one_o of_o they_o separate_v from_o the_o rest_n as_o for_o instance_n that_o of_o universality_n in_o any_o one_o age_n of_o the_o church_n be_v take_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n be_v no_o sufficient_a rule_n to_o interpret_v scripture_n by_o for_o vincentius_n do_v suppose_v that_o any_o one_o age_n of_o the_o church_n may_v be_v so_o overrun_v with_o heresy_n that_o there_o be_v no_o way_n to_o confute_v it_o but_o by_o recourse_n to_o antiquity_n for_o in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o arian_n heresy_n he_o grant_v that_o almost_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v overspread_v with_o it_o and_o there_o be_v then_o no_o way_n leave_v but_o to_o prefer_v the_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n before_o a_o prevail_a novelty_n in_o some_o case_n the_o universal_a consent_n of_o the_o present_a church_n be_v to_o be_v rely_v upon_o against_o the_o attempt_n of_o particular_a person_n as_o in_o that_o of_o the_o donatist_n but_o then_o we_o be_v to_o consider_v that_o antiquity_n be_v still_o plead_v on_o the_o same_o side_n that_o universality_n be_v and_o suppose_v that_o all_o the_o ancient_a church_n from_o the_o apostle_n time_n have_v be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n with_o the_o donatist_n the_o great_a number_n of_o the_o same_o age_n oppose_v they_o will_v have_v be_v no_o more_o cogent_a against_o they_o than_o it_o be_v afterward_o for_o the_o arian_n it_o be_v unreasonable_a to_o believe_v that_o in_o a_o thing_n universal_o believe_v by_o all_o christian_n from_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o christian_a church_n shall_v be_v deceive_v but_o it_o be_v quite_o another_o thing_n to_o say_v that_o the_o church_n in_o any_o one_o or_o more_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n may_v be_v deceive_v especial_o if_o the_o church_n be_v confine_v to_o one_o certain_a communion_n exclude_v all_o other_o and_o the_o person_n in_o that_o church_n have_v not_o liberty_n to_o deliver_v their_o opinion_n for_o than_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o know_v what_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v and_o so_o universality_n be_v not_o think_v by_o vincentius_n himself_o to_o be_v alone_o sufficient_a to_o determine_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n suppose_v that_o universality_n to_o be_v understand_v according_a to_o the_o honesty_n of_o the_o primitive_a time_n for_o a_o free_a and_o general_a consent_n of_o the_o christian_n of_o that_o age_n in_o which_o a_o man_n live_v but_o since_o the_o great_a division_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n it_o be_v both_o a_o very_a hard_a matter_n to_o know_v the_o consent_n of_o christendom_n in_o most_o of_o the_o controvert_v place_n of_o scripture_n and_o withal_o the_o notion_n of_o universality_n be_v debauch_v and_o corrupt_v and_o make_v only_o to_o signify_v the_o consent_n of_o one_o great_a faction_n which_o be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o true_o know_v by_o the_o name_n of_o roman_a 2._o that_o great_a care_n and_o judgement_n must_v be_v use_v in_o the_o apply_v those_o rule_n for_o 1._o the_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n be_v not_o equal_o evident_a in_o all_o matter_n in_o dispute_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v of_o equal_a use_n 1._o there_o be_v some_o thing_n wherein_o we_o may_v be_v certain_a of_o such_o a_o consent_n and_o that_o be_v in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n as_o vincentius_n and_o most_o of_o the_o ancient_a writer_n call_v it_o i.e._n the_o summary_n comprehension_n of_o a_o christian_n duty_n as_o to_o matter_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o so_o often_o call_v the_o symbol_n as_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n that_o i_o mean_v which_o be_v deliver_v to_o person_n who_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v and_o receive_v into_o the_o church_n this_o the_o ancient_a church_n universal_o agree_v in_o as_o to_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o and_o as_o to_o this_o vincentius_n tell_v we_o his_o rule_n be_v especial_o to_o be_v understand_v ●●_o for_o say_v he_o this_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n be_v not_o to_o be_v seek_v for_o in_o all_o question_n that_o may_v arise_v about_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n but_o only_o or_o at_o least_o chief_o in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n or_o as_o he_o elsewhere_o explain_v himself_o 〈◊〉_d alone_o or_o chief_o in_o those_o question_n which_o concern_v the_o fundamental_o of_o the_o catholic_n doctrine_n which_o be_v those_o contain_v in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n deliver_v to_o all_o that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v suppose_v man_n now_o shall_v stretch_v this_o rule_n beyond_o the_o limit_n assign_v it_o by_o vincentius_n what_o security_n can_v there_o be_v from_o he_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o certain_a rule_n who_o confine_v it_o within_o such_o narrow_a bound_n not_o that_o i_o think_v his_o rule_n of_o no_o use_n at_o all_o now_o no_o i_o think_v they_o to_o be_v of_o admirable_a use_n and_o great_a importance_n to_o christianity_n if_o true_o understand_v and_o apply_v i.e._n when_o any_o person_n take_v upon_o they_o to_o impose_v any_o thing_n upon_o other_o as_o a_o necessary_a matter_n of_o faith_n to_o be_v believe_v by_o they_o we_o can_v have_v no_o better_a rule_n of_o judgement_n in_o this_o case_n than_o those_o of_o vincentius_n be_v viz._n antiquity_n universality_n and_o consent_n and_o whatsoever_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o these_o rule_v aught_o to_o be_v reject_v by_o all_o christian_n to_o make_v this_o plain_a the_o