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A66964 A discourse of the necessity of church-guides, for directing Christians in necessary faith with some annotations on Dr Stillingfleet's answer to N.O. / by R.H. R. H., 1609-1678. 1675 (1675) Wing W3446; ESTC R38733 248,311 278

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contraria_fw-la suae_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la confessioni_fw-la sentiret_fw-la plusquam_fw-la decem_fw-la synodos_fw-la jam_fw-la instituerant_fw-la etc._n etc._n verbum_fw-la autem_fw-la illud_fw-la domini_fw-la per_fw-la occumenicam_fw-la niceae_n synodum_fw-la in_o aeternum_fw-la manet_fw-la and_o in_o the_o close_a of_o that_o epstile_a after_o cite_v the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 11.2_o laudo_fw-la vos_fw-la quod_fw-la quemadmodum_fw-la tradidi_fw-la vobis_fw-la traditiones_fw-la ita_fw-la eas_fw-la servatis_fw-la he_o go_v on_o ipsa_fw-la enim_fw-la nicaena_n synodus_fw-la reverâ_fw-la trophaeum_fw-la columnaque_fw-la est_fw-la ubi_fw-la omnes_fw-la haereses_fw-la inscriptae_fw-la ostentui_fw-la sunt_fw-la allude_v to_o col._n 2._o 15._o then_o declare_v how_o this_o council_n establish_v the_o faith_n he_o say_v quam_fw-la patres_fw-la statuissent_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la in_o filium_fw-la id_fw-la statim_fw-la adjectum_fw-la voluere_fw-la credimus_fw-la &_o in_fw-la spiritum_fw-la 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and_o doctor_n meet_v in_o ecumenical_a council_n in_o all_o age_n i_o will_v you_o can_v prove_v a_o true_o ecumenical_a council_n in_o any_o age_n he_o proceed_v ib._n l._n 17._o but_o we_o can_v endure_v to_o be_v abuse_v by_o mere_a name_n of_o titular_a prtriarch_n with_o combination_n of_o interest_v party_n instead_o of_o general_a council_n you_o do_v well_o in_o this_o but_o not_o so_o if_o you_o charge_v any_o such_o thing_n on_o those_o former_a council_n whereof_o the_o more_o universal_a judgement_n of_o other_o metropolitan_a church_n clear_v they_o in_o their_o accept_v they_o for_o lawful_a and_o oblige_a and_o conform_v in_o their_o belief_n and_o practice_n to_o their_o decree_n which_o general_a acknowledgement_n of_o they_o supply_v also_o any_o defect_n that_o may_v have_v be_v in_o the_o management_n of_o they_o ib._n l._n 3_o if_o we_o then_o oppose_v so_o general_a a_o consent_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n let_v they_o charge_v we_o with_o not_o submit_v 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only_o mean_v to_o that_o which_o in_o their_o own_o judgement_n be_v the_o sense_n of_o it_o though_o a_o angel_n from_o heaven_n shall_v teach_v the_o contrary_a to_o take_v heed_n of_o seducer_n and_o false_a guide_n that_o shall_v appear_v in_o christ_n name_n apply_v such_o thing_n to_o the_o canonical_a judicature_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o to_o themselves_o rather_o and_o to_o tell_v the_o people_n of_o antichrist_n that_o be_v to_o come_v and_o store_n of_o false_a miracle_n that_o be_v to_o be_v do_v that_o they_o be_v bid_v to_o prove_v all_o thing_n and_o hold_v that_o which_o be_v good_a i.e._n what_o they_o judge_v so_o that_o if_o the_o blind_a lead_v the_o blind_a both_o must_v fall_v into_o the_o ditch_n that_o the_o apostle_n claim_v no_o dominion_n over_o man_n faith_n etc._n etc._n all_o these_o for_o a_o dirumpamus_fw-la vincula_fw-la eorum_fw-la &_o projiciamus_fw-la a_o nobis_fw-la jugum_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la i_o mean_v that_o yoke_n of_o church-authority_n commit_v to_o these_o our_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n by_o our_o lord_n christ_n jesus_n and_o for_o the_o gain_v freedom_n of_o judgement_n and_o liberty_n of_o opinion_n and_o decline_v of_o obedience_n all_o which_o thing_n any_o way_n vilify_a superior_n and_o have_v something_o satirical_a in_o they_o be_v ordinary_o receive_v with_o much_o applause_n by_o our_o corrupt_a nature_n uncorrected_a by_o grace_n which_o love_v to_o have_v a_o sovereignty_n place_v in_o itself_o and_o to_o be_v make_v judge_n of_o its_o judge_n and_o reluct_v against_o nothing_o so_o much_o as_o a_o captivate_a of_o the_o understanding_n §_o 13_o but_o indeed_o the_o effect_n of_o such_o yoke_n throw_v off_o and_o of_o such_o a_o liberty_n establish_v in_o stead_n thereof_o seem_v to_o be_v very_o sad_a for_o beside_o *_o the_n sin_n of_o disobedience_n to_o those_o our_o lord_n christ_n have_v set_v ever_o we_o if_o indeed_o they_o be_v such_o spiritual_a guide_n to_o who_o we_o owe_v submission_n 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the_o solicitude_n and_o jealousy_n that_o such_o person_n ought_v to_o have_v concern_v their_o not_o have_v sufficient_o study_v the_o ground_n of_o their_o faith_n or_o use_v a_o competent_a diligence_n to_o inform_v themselves_o of_o the_o truth_n without_o which_o they_o may_v still_o miss_v of_o it_o beside_o all_o these_o i_o say_v it_o happen_v that_o several_a judgement_n read_v the_o scripture_n and_o understand_v it_o in_o a_o several_a way_n all_o assure_a of_o its_o clearness_n in_o necessary_n and_o confident_a of_o their_o own_o sincerity_n which_o they_o can_v be_v of_o another_o hence_o sect_n and_o variety_n of_o opinion_n according_a to_o man_n different_a capacity_n become_v infinite_o multiply_v hence_o censure_v also_o and_o vilify_a of_o their_o spiritual_a superior_n who_o error_n they_o think_v they_o clear_o discover_v which_o spiritual_a pride_n and_o conceitedness_n in_o religion_n and_o contradiction_n to_o superior_n say_v dr_n st._n 24.14_o st._n serm._n on_o act._n 24.14_o be_v to_o be_v reckon_v among_o the_o worst_a
can_v judge_v of_o their_o judgement_n whether_o right_a by_o the_o rule_n concern_v the_o sense_n whereof_o they_o consult_v they_o i.e._n they_o can_v learn_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o rule_n from_o their_o guide_n and_o then_o know_v the_o truth_n of_o their_o sentence_n from_o the_o rule_n p._n 140._o how_o or_o by_o what_o mark_v the_o true_a church_n be_v to_o be_v discern_v from_o sect_n from_o which_o church_n first_o know_v the_o enquirer_n may_v learn_v the_o true_a faith_n p._n 106._o 152._o 155._o 209._o and_o that_o in_o any_o difference_n or_o contrariety_n of_o church-governor_n the_o superior_a authority_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v that_o christian_n both_o prudent_o may_v and_o in_o duty_n ought_v to_o subject_v their_o judgement_n in_o divine_a matter_n to_o church-authority_n though_o suppose_v fallible_a wherever_o they_o be_v not_o certain_a of_o the_o contrary_a to_o its_o decision_n p._n 99_o 223._o that_o all_o other_o magistrate_n and_o superior_n be_v deficient_a and_o come_v short_a as_o to_o one_o branch_n of_o authority_n belong_v to_o the_o church_n viz._n the_o decide_n of_o what_o be_v truth_n and_o error_n lawful_a and_o unlawful_a in_o divine_a matter_n for_o which_o infallibility_n be_v necessary_a to_o they_o when_o not_o so_o to_o the_o other_o p._n 222._o that_o church-infallibility_a be_v clear_o enough_o evidence_v to_o christian_n both_o from_o the_o scripture_n and_o from_o tradition_n p._n 109._o and_o that_o catholic_n place_v this_o infallibility_n in_o a_o lawful_a general_n council_n p._n 96_o where_o concern_v the_o decree_n of_o general_a council_n their_o be_v put_v in_o the_o creed_n and_o a_o universal_a assent_n require_v to_o they_o under_o anathema_n p._n 127._o concern_v the_o anathemas_n pass_v by_o inferior_a and_o fallible_a council_n p._n 127_o 129._o some_o quotation_n out_o of_o dr_n field_n and_o the_o text_n gal._n 1.8_o consider_a p._n 130_o 131._o that_o dr_n field_n clear_o maintain_v some_o visible_a church_n or_o other_o consist_v of_o prelate_n and_o subject_n and_o give_v law_n to_o be_v infallible_a as_o to_o necessary_n in_o all_o age_n which_o church_n the_o unlearned_a at_o least_o be_v advise_v by_o he_o to_o search_v out_o and_o so_o to_o follow_v her_o direction_n and_o rest_n in_o her_o judgement_n p._n 103._o the_o deficiency_n in_o his_o tenent_n p._n 105._o that_o miracle_n be_v not_o necessary_a in_o all_o age_n to_o attest_v the_o church_n infallibility_n p._n 116._o that_o true_a miracle_n for_o many_o good_a end_n advancing_z the_o glory_n of_o god_n and_o the_o catholic_n faith_n have_v be_v continue_v in_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o not_o so_o elsewhere_o ever_o since_o the_o apostle_n time_n p._n ibid._n how_o miracle_n signify_v the_o infallibility_n of_o those_o by_o who_o god_n work_v they_o p._n 118._o the_o latter_a time_n of_o the_o church_n do_v miracle_n in_o all_o the_o same_o kind_n as_o the_o former_a and_o both_o as_o our_o lord_n and_o his_o apostle_n do_v p._n 119._o several_a controversy_n in_o religion_n necessary_a to_o be_v decide_v and_o those_o respect_v manner_n as_o well_o as_o faith_n p._n 175._o etc._n etc._n by_o what_o authority_n general_n council_n assemble_v and_o decide_v controversy_n p._n 174._o in_o what_o manner_n general_n council_n and_o the_o church-guide_n be_v a_o infallible_a stand_a judge_n of_o controversy_n p._n 132_o 238._o lawful_a general_n council_n of_o any_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n of_o equal_a authority_n and_o obligation_n p._n 151_o 160_o 205._o that_o we_o want_v a_o judge_n for_o the_o necessary_a decision_n of_o many_o controversy_n as_o for_o instance_n whether_o latter_a time_n have_v alter_v what_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n deliver_v or_o have_v impose_v thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o plain_a command_n of_o scripture_n or_o latter_a lawful_a general_n council_n contradict_v former_a or_o what_o former_a council_n be_v to_o be_v account_v general_n legal_a and_o obligatory_a whether_o what_o be_v pretend_v to_o be_v the_o concordant_a sense_n of_o antiquity_n or_o to_o be_v contrary_a to_o it_o real_o be_v so_o whether_o some_o thing_n repugnant_a to_o god_n word_n be_v not_o command_v by_o our_o superior_n as_o thing_n indifferent_a etc._n etc._n i_o say_v that_o the_o christian_a world_n be_v destitute_a of_o a_o judge_n to_o end_v such_o difference_n unless_o the_o present_a church_n be_v it_o and_o be_v in_o such_o contest_v to_o be_v appeal_v and_o stand_v to_o p._n 140._o 141._o that_o the_o present_a unanimous_a agreement_n of_o the_o apostolical_a church_n and_o especial_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o prime_a apostolic_a see_v join_v with_o they_o be_v by_o the_o ancient_n esteem_v and_o urge_v as_o infallible_a and_o to_o which_o all_o owe_v submission_n of_o judgement_n p._n 180_o 181._o hold_v so_o by_o those_o ancient_a writer_n cite_v by_o dr_n st._n by_o s._n jrenaeus_fw-la p._n 182._o by_o tertullian_n p._n 185._o by_o clemens_n alexandrinus_n p._n 188._o by_o s._n athanasius_n p._n 190._o 203._o by_o s._n austin_n p._n 194_o 206_o by_o vincentius_n lerinensis_n p._n 197._o the_o place_n *_o in_o s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n ep._n 55._o concern_v council_n consider_v p._n 194._o *_o in_o s._n austin_n contra_fw-la maximin_n l._n 3._o c._n 14._o p._n 194._o de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la eccl._n c._n 19_o p._n 212._o de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 3._o p._n 213._o argument_n use_v by_o the_o father_n against_o heretic_n both_o from_o infallible_a church-tradition_n and_o from_o the_o scripture_n and_o that_o those_o from_o the_o latter_a notwithstanding_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o former_a be_v necessary_a against_o person_n not_o submit_v to_o the_o other_o p._n 190_o 191._o the_o place_n out_o of_o petavius_n and_o s._n hierome_n concern_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n before_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a consider_v p._n 201._o etc._n etc._n vnanimous_a consent_n of_o the_o 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reformation_n lawful_a against_o the_o definition_n of_o a_o superior_a church-authority_n p._n 236._o in_o a_o controversy_n whether_o a_o national_a church_n have_v depart_v from_o the_o true_o catholic_n church_n of_o former_a age_n who_o be_v to_o be_v the_o judge_n p._n 237._o that_o national_a church_n and_o council_n be_v subject_a to_o patriarchal_a and_o general_n p._n 152._o 226._o that_o any_o particular_a church_n may_v require_v assent_n from_o all_o her_o subject_n to_o her_o doctrine_n of_o religion_n so_o far_o as_o such_o church_n accord_v therein_o with_o the_o church_n catholic_n because_o in_o these_o she_o infallible_a if_o the_o catholic_n be_v so_o p._n 222._o whether_o a_o fallible_a church_n may_v require_v assent_n to_o her_o doctrine_n or_o to_o some_o of_o they_o at_o least_o as_o to_o matter_n of_o faith_n where_o she_o as_o fallible_a confess_v she_o may_v err_v in_o such_o matter_n or_o she_o not_o require_v such_o submission_n to_o they_o as_o to_o matter_n of_o faith_n whether_o her_o subject_n be_v not_o leave_v
both_o as_o to_o this_o crime_n at_o the_o same_o distance_n from_o salvation_n or_o the_o divine_a mercy_n unless_o the_o roman_a be_v at_o a_o great_a from_o have_v so_o much_o more_o light_a thus_o then_o be_v the_o roman_a idolatry_n in_o that_o discourse_n frequent_o represent_v by_o he_o n._n 6_o now_o after_o all_o this_o will_v not_o one_o wonder_n at_o the_o greatness_n of_o this_o man_n charity_n in_o maintain_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o mr._n j._n w._n such_o a_o church_n as_o in_o all_o these_o idolatry_n equal_v the_o heathen_n yet_o to_o retain_v still_o all_o the_o essential_o of_o a_o true_a church_n and_o such_o opinion_n and_o practice_n without_o any_o retractation_n of_o their_o error_n or_o reform_v their_o fault_n to_o hazard_v only_o and_o not_o destroy_v man_n salvation_n and_o must_v not_o this_o his_o charity_n be_v enlarge_v further_o to_o the_o heathen_n also_o that_o they_o in_o worship_v and_o sacrifice_v to_o their_o false_a god_n and_o hero_n and_o the_o 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a_o purpose_n to_o be_v faulty_a and_o unconclusive_a and_o indeed_o the_o favour_n here_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n notwithstanding_o such_o heavy_a charge_n as_o these_o upon_o she_o receive_v from_o protestant_n of_o be_v affirm_v still_o a_o true_a church_n seem_v to_o be_v on_o this_o account_n because_o else_o they_o shall_v miss_v a_o catholic_n church_n for_o divers_a age_n before_o luther_n and_o derive_v the_o succession_n of_o their_o clergy_n from_o a_o body_n already_o unchurch_v thus_o we_o see_v what_o obligation_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v to_o his_o charity_n in_o maintain_v some_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n to_o consist_v with_o a_o true_a church_n where_o indeed_o it_o appear_v both_o the_o catholick_n interest_n to_o prove_v the_o idolatry_n impute_v to_o it_o not_o consistent_a with_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n whereby_o they_o free_v the_o roman_a church_n from_o any_o such_o idolatry_n and_o the_o dr_n interest_n to_o show_v such_o idolatry_n no_o fundamental_a error_n or_o miscarriage_n so_o to_o retain_v still_o the_o roman_a church_n a_o true_a church_n viz._n that_o so_o also_o the_o catholic_n of_o some_o age_n and_o the_o present_a also_o that_o be_v beside_o the_o protestant_a church_n may_v be_v so_o n._n 8_o 2._o next_o to_o examine_v the_o reason_n he_o bring_v for_o justify_v such_o his_o assertion_n in_o that_o answer_n to_o j._n w._n p._n 30._o he_o say_v that_o the_o very_a be_v of_o a_o church_n do_v suppose_v the_o necessity_n of_o what_o be_v require_v to_o be_v believe_v in_o order_n to_o salvation_n i.e._n that_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n be_v believe_v in_o it_o which_o be_v grant_v 2_o say_v that_o whatever_o church_n own_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v antecedent_o necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n can_v so_o long_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n which_o also_o be_v grant_v but_o what_o be_v these_o thing_n that_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n for_o 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who_o charge_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v antichrist_n and_o the_o papist_n idolater_n let_v not_o they_o say_v he_o lead_v the_o people_n by_o the_o nose_n to_o believe_v that_o they_o can_v prove_v their_o supposition_n when_o they_o can_v and_o then_o expect_v that_o it_o be_v maintain_v by_o they_o that_o own_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o a_o true_a church_n and_o therefore_o that_o must_v contradict_v thomselve_n if_o they_o maintain_v it_o i.e._n their_o supposition_n of_o papist_n be_v idolater_n n._n 12_o as_o for_o our_o author_n be_v distinguish_v 23_o distinguish_v p._n 31._o &_o 23_o between_o the_o essential_o of_o a_o church_n and_o the_o integrity_n or_o soundness_n of_o it_o and_o say_v that_o a_o man_n be_v a_o true_a man_n though_o he_o have_v the_o plague_n upon_o he_o to_o this_o i_o answer_v one_a that_o if_o the_o plague_n be_v mortal_a the_o man_n must_v necessary_o cease_v thereby_o to_o be_v a_o man_n and_o 2_o that_o whatever_o may_v be_v require_v to_o the_o 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these_o word_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n can_v be_v present_a at_o one_o time_n in_o many_o and_o diverse_a place_n etc._n etc._n and_o because_o it_o be_v take_v up_o into_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n a_o faithful_a man_n ought_v not_o to_o believe_v the_o real_a and_o bodily_a presence_n as_o they_o term_v it_o of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o not_o long_o after_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o qu._n elizabeth_n reign_n be_v think_v fit_a by_o her_o divine_n review_v this_o second_o book_n to_o be_v eject_v thence_o again_o as_o be_v prejudicial_a to_o the_o foresay_a real_a presence_n and_o so_o also_o be_v the_o foresay_a clause_n cast_v out_o of_o the_o 28_o article_n of_o which_o real_a presence_n queen_n elizabeth_n be_v a_o great_a patroness_n and_o such_o a_o presence_n be_v confess_v by_o queen_n elizabeth_n and_o her_o clergy_n i_o hope_v this_o author_n here_o will_v not_o make_v to_o be_v deny_v by_o s._n austin_n pag_n 239._o l._n 8._o whatever_o consequence_n be_v charge_v upon_o i_o for_o make_v that_o a_o fundamental_a principle_n must_v reflect_v as_o much_o upon_o s._n austin_n as_o i_o see_v the_o contrary_a note_v on_o p._n 236._o l._n 1._o pag._n 240._o l._n 4._o who_o vincentius_n lerinensis_n seem_v to_o attribute_v more_o to_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n than_o s._n aust●n_n do_v yet_o far_o enough_o short_a of_o infallibility_n now_o we_o must_v follow_v our_o author_n to_o vincentius_n lerinensis_n as_o for_o this_o father_n first_o he_o hold_v in_o all_o age_n the_o existence_n and_o be_v of_o a_o catholic_n church_n distinct_a from_o other_o if_o any_o heretical_a how_o numerous_a soever_o they_o may_v be_v in_o which_o catholic_n church_n be_v preserve_v entire_a the_o catholic_n doctrine_n especial_o in_o all_o necessary_n and_o if_o so_o therefore_o a_o church_n in_o whatever_o age_n always_o consentient_a with_o antiquity_n so_o that_o vniversalitas_n as_o to_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o catholic_n of_o any_o age_n and_o antiquitas_fw-la can_v never_o be_v sever_v 2_o he_o hold_v the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n of_o this_o catholic_n church_n in_o whatever_o time_n convene_v to_o be_v true_a and_o never_o to_o swerve_v from_o the_o apostolical_a doctrine_n i.e._n to_o be_v infallible_a and_o that_o all_o be_v to_o receive_v and_o obey_v they_o and_o all_o dissenter_n from_o they_o to_o be_v heretic_n to_o this_o purpose_n he_o say_v c._n 33._o on_o that_o text_n 2._o jo._n 10._o si_fw-mi quis_fw-la venit_fw-la ad_fw-la vos_fw-la &_o hanc_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la non_fw-la affert_fw-la nolite_fw-la recipere_fw-la cuns_fw-la in_o domum_fw-la nec_fw-la ave_fw-la ei_fw-la dixeritis_fw-la quam_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la say_v he_o nisi_fw-la catholicam_fw-la &_o universalem_fw-la &_o unam_fw-la eandemque_fw-la per_fw-la singulas_fw-la aetatum_fw-la successiones_fw-la incorruptâ_fw-la veritatis_fw-la traditione_n manentem_fw-la &_o usque_fw-la in_o saecula_fw-la sine_fw-la sine_fw-la mansuram_fw-la and_o c._n 24._o prophanas_fw-la vocum_fw-la novitates_fw-la devita_fw-la quas_fw-la recipere_fw-la atque_fw-la sectari_fw-la nunquam_fw-la catholicorum_n semper_fw-la verò_fw-la haereticorum_fw-la fuit_fw-la and_o c._n 32._o he_o describe_v the_o catholic_n church_n thus_o i.e._n the_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n and_o prelate_n thereof_o christi_fw-la verò_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sedula_fw-la &_o cauta_fw-la depositorum_fw-la apud_fw-la se_fw-la dogmatum_fw-la custos_fw-la nihil_fw-la in_o iis_fw-la unquam_fw-la permutat_fw-la nihil_fw-la minuit_fw-la nihil_fw-la addit_fw-la hoc_fw-la unum_fw-la studet_fw-la ut_fw-la quae_fw-la jam_fw-la expressa_fw-la &_o enucleata_fw-la cons●lidet_fw-la firmet_fw-la siqua_fw-la jam_fw-la confirmata_fw-la &_o definita_fw-la custodiat_fw-la denique_fw-la quid_fw-la unquam_fw-la aliud_fw-la concilisrum_fw-la decretis_fw-la enisa_fw-la est_fw-la nisi_fw-la ut_fw-la quid_fw-la antea_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la credebatur_fw-la hoc_fw-la idem_fw-la postea_fw-la diligentiùs_fw-la crederetur_fw-la quod_fw-la prius_fw-la a_o majoribus_fw-la solâ_fw-la traditione_n susceperat_fw-la hoc_fw-la deinde_fw-la posteris_fw-la etiam_fw-la per_fw-la scripturae_fw-la chirographum_fw-la consignaret_fw-la he_o say_v c._n 35._o that_o the_o heretic_n ancient_a modern_a urge_v the_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n propè_fw-la nullam_fw-la omitti_fw-la paginam_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la novi_fw-la aut_fw-la veteris_fw-la testamenti_fw-la sententiis_fw-la fucata_fw-la &_o colorata_fw-la sit_fw-la and_o c._n 2._o multum_fw-la necesse_fw-la esse_fw-la propter_fw-la tantos_fw-la tam_fw-la varii_fw-la erroris_fw-la anfractus_fw-la ut_fw-la propheticae_fw-la &_o apostolicae_fw-la interpretationis_fw-la linea_fw-la secundum_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la &_o catholici_fw-la sensus_fw-la normam_fw-la dirigatur_fw-la where_v i_o ask_v do_v the_o father_n think_v this_o fallible_a and_o c._n 41._o he_o say_v duo_o quaedam_fw-la uchementer_fw-la studioseque_fw-la observanda_fw-la primùm_fw-la si_fw-la quid_fw-la esset_fw-la antiquitùs_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la vniversalis_fw-la concilii_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la decretum_fw-la deinde_fw-la siqua_fw-la nova_fw-la exurgeret_fw-la quaestio_fw-la ubi_fw-la id_fw-la minimè_fw-la reperiretur_fw-la recurrendum_fw-la ad_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la patrum_fw-la sententias_fw-la et_fw-la quicquid_fw-la uno_fw-la sensu_fw-la atque_fw-la consensu_fw-la tenuisse_fw-la invenirentur_fw-la id_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la verum_fw-la &_o catholicum_fw-la absque_fw-la ullo_fw-la scrupulo_fw-la judicaretur_fw-la c._n 40._o descant_v on_o 1._o cor._n 12.28_o he_o say_v of_o the_o church-governor_n hos_fw-la ergo_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la dei_fw-la divinitùs_fw-la per_fw-la tempora_fw-la &_o loca_fw-la dispensatos_fw-la quisquis_fw-la in_o sensu_fw-la catholici_fw-la dogmatis_fw-la unum_fw-la aliquid_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la sentientes_fw-la contempserit_fw-la non_fw-la hominem_fw-la contemnit_fw-la sed_fw-la d●um_fw-la a_o quorum_n veridicâ_fw-la unitate_fw-la nequid_fw-la discrepet_fw-la impensiùs_fw-la obtestatur_fw-la idem_fw-la apostolus_fw-la d●cens_fw-la obsc●ro_fw-la autem_fw-la vos_fw-la fratres_fw-la ut_fw-la idipsum_fw-la dicatis_fw-la omnes_fw-la &_o non_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o vobis_fw-la schismata_fw-la sitis_fw-la autem_fw-la perfecti_fw-la in_o eodem_fw-la sensu_fw-la &_o in_o eadem_fw-la senten●iâ_fw-la i.e._n of_o these_o church-guide_n unum_fw-la aliquid_fw-la in_o christ_n sentientium_fw-la quod_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la ab_fw-la eorum_fw-la sententiae_fw-la communione_fw-la desciverit_fw-la audict_n illud_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la apostoli_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la deus_fw-la dissensionis_fw-la sed_fw-la pacis_fw-la and_o c._n 4●_n after_o he_o have_v make_v a_o instance_n in_o the_o 3d_o general_n council_n but_o a_o little_a before_o this_o writing_n this_o commonitorium_fw-la its_o settle_v the_o faith_n in_o the_o point_n then_o controvert_v he_o join_v to_o it_o in_o the_o last_o place_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o see_v apostolical_a nequid_fw-la say_v he_o deesse_fw-la tantae_fw-la plenitudini_fw-la videretur_fw-la ad_fw-la postremum_fw-la adjecimus_fw-la geminam_fw-la apostolicae_fw-la sedis_fw-la auctoritatem_fw-la unam_fw-la scilicet_fw-la sancti_fw-la papae_fw-la xysti_fw-la qui_fw-la nunc_fw-la romanam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la venerandus_fw-la illustrat_fw-la alteram_fw-la praedecessoris_fw-la svi_fw-la beatae_fw-la memoriae_fw-la papae_fw-la caelestini_n quam_fw-la hic_fw-la quoque_fw-la interponere_fw-la necessariam_fw-la judicavimus_fw-la let_v the_o reader_n by_o this_o judge_n now_o whether_o lerinensis_n have_v say_v nothing_o for_o church-infallibility_a pag._n 241._o l._n 3._o universality_n in_o any_o one_o age_n of_o the_o church_n be_v take_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n be_v no_o sufficient_a rule_n to_o interpret_v scripture_n by_o it_o be_v true_a 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in_o its_o decree_n but_o here_o whenever_o this_o come_v in_o question_n whether_o the_o present_a universality_n dissent_v from_o antiquity_n who_o judgement_n shall_v be_v soon_o take_v than_o its_o own_o rather_o than_o that_o of_o those_o few_o who_o oppose_v it_o for_o both_o be_v party_n and_o if_o its_o own_o when_o can_v we_o think_v it_o will_v witness_v its_o departure_n from_o the_o former_a faith_n ib._n l._n 15._o in_o some_o case_n the_o universal_a consent_n of_o the_o present_a church_n be_v to_o be_v rely_v upon_o etc._n etc._n as_o in_o that_o of_o the_o dona_fw-la its_o universal_a consent_n of_o present_a church_n in_o any_o age_n so_o this_o be_v limit_v to_o churches_n catholic_n contradistinct_a to_o heretic_n or_o those_o condemn_v by_o former_a council_n can_v never_o falsify_v former_a
church-tradition_n quod_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la i_o mean_v in_o any_o one_o age_n understand_v of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n be_v always_o quod_fw-la semper_fw-la too_o all_o heretic_n also_o at_o first_o be_v only_o a_o small_a number_n and_o their_o innovation_n easy_o discern_v therefore_o the_o universality_n of_o the_o present_a age_n be_v plead_v by_o s._n austin_n in_o his_o age_n against_o the_o donatist_n from_o scripture_n that_o prove_v the_o same_o as_o much_o in_o any_o age_n whatever_o nor_o be_v this_o present_a church_n consent_n with_o antiquity_n mention_v in_o s._n augustine_n argue_v as_o if_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v credit_v without_o this_o consent_n also_o of_o antiquity_n first_o prove_v by_o it_o for_o the_o one_o as_o be_v say_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n always_o involve_v the_o other_o pag_n 242._o l._n 1._o that_o the_o church_n in_o any_o one_o or_o more_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n may_v be_v deceive_v the_o church_n mean_v he_o the_o universality_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n may_v be_v deceive_v mean_v he_o in_o point_n of_o necessary_a faith_n or_o in_o the_o tradition_n of_o they_o this_o be_v deny_v ib._n l._n 1.5_o but_o since_o the_o great_a division_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n it_o be_v both_o a_o very_a hard_a matter_n to_o know_v the_o consent_n &c_n &c_n 1._o the_o name_n of_o catholic_n church_n now_o be_v not_o as_o he_o say_v that_o of_o one_o great_a faction_n but_o contain_v in_o it_o now_o as_o always_o all_o christian_a church_n that_o be_v unite_v in_o obedience_n to_o all_o their_o lawful_a and_o canonical_a ecclesiastical_a superior_n person_n or_o council_n i.e._n all_o that_o be_v not_o heretical_a or_o schismatical_a 2._o the_o notion_n also_o of_o vuiversaluy_fw-fr be_v not_o as_o he_o say_v now_o debauch_v and_o corrupt_v but_o take_v now_o as_o ancient_o in_o the_o first_o 4._o general_a council_n for_o the_o much_o major_a part_n to_o who_o the_o rest_n ought_v to_o conform_v turpis_fw-la omnis_fw-la pars_fw-la non_fw-la consentiens_fw-la toti_fw-la and_o as_o it_o be_v also_o take_v in_o vincentius_n whether_o apply_v to_o the_o present_a or_o ancient_a time_n see_v c._n 38._o si_fw-la quando_fw-la unius_fw-la vel_fw-la paucorum_fw-la errantium_fw-la dissensio_fw-la contra_fw-la omnium_fw-la vel_fw-la certe_fw-la multo_fw-la plurium_fw-la catholicorum_n consensionem_fw-la rebellaverit_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o c._n 4._o quod_fw-la si_fw-la in_o ipsâ_fw-la vetustate_fw-la duorum_fw-la vel_fw-la trium_fw-la hominum_fw-la vel_fw-la certè_fw-la civitatis_fw-la unius_fw-la aut_fw-la etiam_fw-la provinciae_fw-la error_n deprehendatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o there_o must_v be_v no_o heretic_n if_o no_o dissenter_n the_o universal_a consent_n of_o christendom_n universality_n thus_o qualify_v be_v easy_o know_v concern_v most_o of_o the_o modern_a controversy_n suppose_v transubstantiation_n invocation_n of_o saint_n veneration_n of_o image_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n and_o to_o they_o only_o the_o knowledge_n of_o this_o seem_v difficult_a who_o it_o favour_v not_o ib._n l._n 2_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n wherein_o we_o may_v be_v certain_a of_o such_o a_o consent_n viz._n of_o antiquity_n and_o that_o be_v in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n vincentius_n restrain_v not_o that_o application_n of_o his_o rule_n only_o to_o the_o symbol_n or_o rule_n of_o faith_n former_o deliver_v in_o baptism_n so_o it_o will_v not_o extend_v to_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o ephesine_n council_n which_o he_o instance_v in_o to_o have_v follow_v this_o rule_n and_o little_a use_n will_v there_o be_v of_o this_o rule_n against_o heretic_n if_o extend_v no_o further_o but_o enlarge_v it_o to_o all_o the_o faith_n wherein_o general_a council_n have_v or_o shall_v make_v any_o decree_n and_o the_o evidence_n of_o tradition_n may_v be_v equal_a in_o matter_n as_o of_o a_o unequal_a so_o all_o of_o some_o consequence_n 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bound_v man_n to_o believe_v the_o decree_n of_o nice_a which_o decree_n he_o say_v 13._o say_v contra_fw-la maximin_n l._n 3._o c._n 13._o in_o concilio_n nicaeno_n adversus_fw-la haereticos_fw-la arianos_fw-la a_o catholicis_fw-la patribus_fw-la veritatis_fw-la authoritate_fw-la &_o authoritatis_fw-la veritate_fw-la firmatum_fw-la est_fw-la how_o be_v that_o so_o confirm_v that_o be_v still_o liable_a to_o amendment_n or_o if_o all_o decree_n be_v not_o how_o know_v we_o when_o they_o be_v so_o or_o be_v those_o decree_n that_o be_v so_o liable_a universal_o to_o be_v believe_v dissenter_n anathematise_v the_o creed_n enlarge_v with_o they_o till_o such_o time_n as_o they_o be_v amend_v ib._n l._n 11._o which_o word_n of_o he_o can_v be_v understand_v of_o unlawful_a council_n of_o matter_n of_o fact_n or_o practice_n but_o do_v refer_v to_o the_o great_a question_n then_o in_o debate_n about_o rebaptise_v heretic_n if_o s._n augustine_n word_n touch_v former_a general_n council_n err_v and_o be_v amend_v by_o latter_o do_v reser_fw-ge as_o our_o author_n here_o say_v to_o the_o point_n of_o rebaptisation_n the_o father_n have_v destroy_v his_o great_a argument_n of_o the_o donatist_n their_o certain_o err_v in_o it_o because_o a_o general_n council_n have_v define_v the_o contrary_a to_o it_o the_o decree_n of_o which_o council_n may_v err_v and_o be_v repeal_v by_o another_o and_o this_o after_o that_o his_o former_a word_n namely_o that_o provincial_a council_n be_v to_o yield_v without_o dispute_n to_o those_o which_o be_v general_n if_o he_o have_v stop_v there_o have_v clear_o confute_v they_o 2_o s._n augustine_n word_n also_o as_o apply_v to_o this_o point_n will_v be_v false_a for_o never_o be_v any_o former_a general_n council_n concern_v this_o point_n of_o rebaptisation_n correct_v by_o a_o latter_a the_o first_o decree_a for_o it_o the_o latter_a against_o it_o ib._n l._n 11_o he_o s._n austin_n grant_v that_o the_o argument_n draw_v from_o the_o church_n authority_n be_v but_o humane_a humane_a authority_n say_v archbishop_n lawd_n 124._o lawd_n p._n 124._o may_v be_v infallible_a enough_o and_o a_o argument_n draw_v from_o it_o convince_a especial_o from_o that_o of_o general_a council_n which_o be_v divine_o assist_v not_o to_o err_v in_o necessary_n but_o this_o authority_n meanwhile_o be_v no_o hindrance_n that_o s._n austin_n may_v not_o also_o urge_v with_o and_o rather_o than_o it_o but_o he_o never_o do_v as_o contrary_a to_o it_o the_o divine_a authority_n in_o scripture_n where_o he_o think_v they_o to_o all_o rational_a man_n clear_a and_o manifest_a pag._n 257._o l._n 6._o and_o elsewhere_o he_o appeal_v not_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o man_n but_o to_o the_o lord_n balance_n none_o of_o these_o instance_n imply_v any_o comparison_n or_o opposition_n make_v by_o s._n austin_n between_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o general_n council_n as_o if_o these_o scripture_n may_v be_v clear_a where_o 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thence_o spread_v over_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n it_o be_v a_o reasonable_a thing_n to_o presume_v that_o what_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n do_v consent_n in_o be_v the_o truth_n not_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o a_o infallibility_n but_o the_o reasonable_a supposition_n that_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n will_v not_o consent_v in_o a_o thing_n repugnant_a to_o any_o apostolical_a doctrine_n or_o tradition_n here_o our_o author_n say_v that_o in_o a_o question_n of_o so_o doubtful_a &_o obscure_a a_o nature_n and_o that_o have_v be_v first_o so_o much_o discuss_v it_o be_v a_o reasonable_a thing_n to_o presume_v &_o a_o reasonable_a supposition_n not_o than_o a_o certain_a position_n that_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o world_n will_v not_o consent_v in_o a_o thing_n repugnant_a to_o any_o apostolical_a doctrine_n or_o tradition_n &_o so_o non-rebaptization_a put_v in_o the_o creed_n may_v be_v a_o presume_a truth_n and_o the_o donatist_n asleep_o presume_a heresy_n where_o i_o think_v he_o will_v not_o say_v we_o do_v presume_v thing_n that_o we_o be_v certain_a of_o be_v then_o s._n augustine_n in_o hac_fw-la re_fw-la tenetur_fw-la à_fw-la nobis_fw-la veritas_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la and_o christus_fw-la perhibet_fw-la testimonium_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la suae_fw-la &_o columna_fw-la &_o firmamentum_fw-la veritatis_fw-la and_o veritas_fw-la eliquata_fw-la &_o consolidata_fw-la come_v to_o this_o a_o reasonable_a supposition_n and_o a_o fair_a presumption_n of_o truth_n but_o yet_o will_v he_o stand_v to_o this_o that_o whatever_o the_o church_n in_o her_o general_n council_n shall_v consent_v to_o it_o be_v a_o reasonable_a supposition_n that_o she_o consent_v to_o nothing_o repugnant_a to_o any_o apostolical_a doctrine_n or_o tradition_n and_o that_o such_o may_v be_v presume_v a_o truth_n if_o so_o will_v not_o this_o infer_v a_o duty_n of_o assent_n also_o to_o all_o her_o decree_n at_o least_o as_o presume_v truth_n and_o if_o in_o a_o question_n of_o so_o
the_o just_a authority_n of_o bishop_n to_o this_o nothing_o to_o n._n oh_o consideration_n i_o say_v let_v he_o perform_v his_o duty_n to_o superior_a council_n and_o to_o the_o pope_n so_o far_o as_o he_o be_v oblige_v by_o the_o church-canon_n and_o concern_v any_o controversy_n of_o other_o usurp_a authority_n let_v he_o acquiesce_v as_o a_o regular_a son_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o council_n decision_n those_o as_o well_o of_o any_o of_o its_o latter_a council_n so_o lawful_a as_o of_o the_o former_a and_o all_o be_v well_o ib._n l._n 14._o n._n oh_o word_v which_o more_o comprehensive_a body_n in_o any_o dissent_n and_o division_n of_o the_o clergy_n according_a to_o the_o church_n canon_n ought_v to_o be_v obey_v it_o follow_v in_o n._n o._n and_o which_o have_v hitherto_o in_o her_o supreme_a and_o most_o general_o accept_v council_n in_o all_o age_n from_o the_o beginning_n require_v such_o submission_n under_o penalty_n of_o anathema_n which_o word_n express_v more_o 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england_n be_v and_o still_o be_v oblige_v as_o well_o as_o the_o rest_n and_o do_v also_o submit_v till_o the_o time_n of_o luther_n be_v the_o discession_n from_o the_o more_o comprehensive_a and_o universal_a authority_n and_o from_o the_o holy_a catholic_n apostolic_a church_n if_o any_o then_o extant_a which_o catholic_n charge_v upon_o they_o and_o perhaps_o it_o be_v the_o consciousness_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o discession_n that_o make_v this_o author_n in_o several_a place_n before_o maintain_v 242._o maintain_v p._n 242._o that_o the_o church_n he_o mean_v catholic_n in_o any_o one_o or_o more_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n may_v be_v deceive_v and_o 241._o and_o p._n 241._o that_o universality_n in_o any_o one_o age_n of_o the_o church_n be_v take_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n be_v no_o sufficient_a rule_n to_o interpret_v scripture_n by_o and_o that_o when_o he_o speak_v of_o stand_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n he_o decline_v that_o of_o the_o present_a catholic_n church_n unless_o join_v with_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n of_o all_o age_n pass_v till_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o constant_a doctrine_n of_o all_o which_o first_o prove_v to_o he_o he_o be_v content_a to_o yield_v see_v for_o this_o what_o he_o say_v by_o and_o by_o 282._o by_o p._n 282._o but_o the_o church_n think_v otherwise_o of_o they_o what_o church_n i_o pray_v the_o primitive_a and_o apostolical_a that_o we_o have_v always_o appeal_v to_o and_o offer_v to_o be_v try_v by_o the_o true_o catholic_n church_n of_o all_o age_n that_o we_o utter_o deny_v to_o have_v agree_v in_o any_o one_o thing_n against_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o before_o p._n 244._o let_v say_v he_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n &c_n &c_n be_v prove_v by_o as_o universal_a consent_n of_o antiquity_n as_o the_o article_n of_o the_o creed_n be_v and_o then_o let_v they_o charge_v we_o with_o heresy_n if_o we_o reject_v they_o and_o p._n 259._o let_v the_o same_o evidence_n be_v produce_v for_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o vniversul_n church_n from_o the_o apostolicat_a time_n in_o the_o matter_n in_o dispute_n between_o our_o church_n and_o that_o of_o rome_n and_o that_o controversy_n of_o infallibility_n may_v be_v lay_v aside_o where_o still_o a_o proof_n not_o of_o the_o decision_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o some_o latter_a age_n but_o of_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n from_o the_o apostolical_a time_n be_v demand_v for_o his_o yield_v a_o submission_n to_o it_o nor_o will_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o present_a church_n be_v current_n with_o he_o for_o decide_v what_o be_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o former_a the_o judgement_n of_o this_o he_o reserve_v to_o himself_o pag._n 281._o l._n 1._o the_o dispute_n be_v then_o concern_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n over_o our_o church_n the_o reform_a article_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n not_o only_o oppose_v this_o but_o many_o other_o definition_n of_o the_o former_a church_n but_o neither_o can_v they_o just_o reject_v this_o supremacy_n so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v by_o the_o canon_n of_o former_a superior_a council_n establish_v that_o only_o can_v be_v eject_v that_o be_v unjust_o usurp_v ib._n l._n 11._o which_o be_v sufficient_o know_v to_o have_v be_v the_o beginning_n of_o the_o breach_n between_o the_o two_o church_n the_o breach_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o the_o reformation_n be_v not_o only_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o roman_a concern_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n but_o of_o the_o gallican_n spanish_a and_o all_o the_o other_o occidental_a or_o oriental_a church_n in_o matter_n wherein_o they_o be_v unite_v in_o the_o resolution_n and_o decree_n of_o several_a former_a council_n where_o or_o at_o what_o point_n the_o breach_n begin_v matter_n not_o so_o much_o as_o where_o it_o end_v or_o the_o full_a charge_n that_o the_o whole_a breach_n contain_v ib._n l._n 15._o what_o shall_v hinder_v our_o church_n from_o proceed_v in_o the_o best_a way_n it_o can_v for_o the_o reformation_n of_o itself_o the_o canon_n and_o definition_n of_o former_a superior_a council_n shall_v hinder_v the_o church_n from_o reform_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o they_o as_o this_o church_n do_v it_o follow_v ib._n l._n 17._o for_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n be_v cast_v out_o as_o a_o usurpation_n our_o church_n be_v thereby_o declare_v to_o be_v a_o free_a church_n the_o pope_n supremacy_n establish_v by_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n in_o superior_a council_n cast_v off_o by_o who_o it_o can_v by_o none_o lawful_o unless_o by_o church-council_n of_o equal_a authority_n to_o those_o that_o allow_v it_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v thereby_o declare_v to_o be_v free_a free_a what_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o superior_a council_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o prime_a apostolic_a see_v preside_v in_o they_o by_o who_o so_o free_v 1_o by_o itself_o or_o by_o the_o governor_n of_o this_o particular_a church_n i.e._n by_o one_o member_n declare_v against_o the_o whole_a or_o 2_o by_o the_o secular_a magistrate_n abrogate_a church-canon_n and_o constitution_n and_o decision_n make_v in_o ecclesiastical_a and_o spiritual_a affair_n neither_o valid_a ib._n l._n 6_o authority_n to_o publish_v rule_n and_o article_n but_o not_o contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n and_o article_n of_o superior_a council_n pag._n 282._o l._n 3._o his_o unjust_a power_n be_v cast_v off_o and_o that_o first_o by_o bishop_n who_o in_o other_o thing_n adhere_v to_o the_o roman_a church_n their_o adhere_n in_o other_o thing_n justifyes_n not_o the_o catholic_n bishop_n for_o their_o breach_n in_o this_o this_o author_n well_o know_v the_o first_o cast_v off_o the_o pope_n power_n begin_v not_o at_o the_o bishop_n and_o he_o have_v hear_v i_o suppose_v of_o their_o great_a reluctance_n and_o cromwel_n negociation_n with_o
creed_n which_o new_a article_n whenever_o make_v n._n o._n contend_v that_o 77_o consid_fw-la p._n 77_o though_o these_o do_v not_o become_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n so_o as_o if_o the_o pure_a nescience_n of_o they_o will_v condemn_v any_o where_o be_v a_o invincible_a ignorance_n or_o not_o a_o sufficient_a proposal_n yet_o so_o necessary_a they_o may_v be_v still_o as_o that_o the_o nescience_n of_o they_o may_v be_v some_o way_n or_o other_o a_o considerable_a hindrance_n to_o their_o salvation_n and_o 2_o a_o resistance_n or_o opposition_n to_o they_o when_o know_v to_o be_v declare_v by_o the_o church_n a_o mortal_a sin_n and_o so_o this_o sin_n without_o repentance_n and_o amendment_n exclude_v from_o salvation_n where_o n._n o._n also_o answer_v that_o question_n §_o 3_o propose_v by_o the_o dr._n but_o also_o frequent_o by_o other_o protestant_n 78_o consid_fw-la p._n 78_o why_o the_o believe_a of_o all_o the_o ancient_a creed_n and_o lead_v a_o good_a life_n may_v not_o 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to_o their_o liberty_n to_o believe_v in_o such_o matter_n what_o seem_v to_o they_o true_a p._n 228_o 230._o whether_o a_o church_n fallible_a can_v just_o require_v of_o all_o her_o clergy_n the_o assent_v to_o and_o maintain_v of_o all_o her_o article_n of_o religion_n and_o then_o how_o error_n can_v be_v rectify_v in_o such_o a_o church_n where_o all_o the_o clergy_n stand_v oblige_v to_o teach_v nothing_o contrary_a to_o the_o public_a doctrine_n thereof_o and_o 2_o whether_o if_o this_o be_v just_o do_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n it_o be_v not_o so_o by_o the_o roman_a and_o by_o council_n as_o to_o the_o clergy_n subject_n to_o they_o p._n 228._o whether_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v not_o require_v assent_n from_o all_o her_o subject_n to_o her_o article_n of_o religion_n or_o leave_v all_o man_n at_o least_o save_v the_o clergy_n to_o their_o liberty_n of_o opinion_n p._n 82._o 227._o whether_o a_o superior_a authority_n be_v not_o oppose_v by_o the_o church_n 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set_v aside_o all_o authority_n of_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n as_o to_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n
doubtful_a and_o obscure_a a_o nature_n as_o rebaptization_n be_v our_o author_n allow_v this_o presumption_n on_o the_o church_n side_n ought_v he_o not_o much_o more_o in_o a_o clear_a pag._n 258._o l._n ult_n s._n augustine_n word_n the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n have_v be_v confirm_v by_o a_o general_n council_n etc._n etc._n it_o may_v now_o 〈…〉_o now_o say_v that_o we_o follow_v what_o truth_n have_v declare_v do_v not_o s._n austin_n here_o from_o non-rebaptization_a be_v confirm_v by_o a_o general_n council_n which_o examine_v custom_n and_o scripture_n declare_v himself_o secure_a of_o this_o truth_n not_o to_o be_v amend_v by_o latter_a council_n pag._n 259._o l._n 13._o that_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o so_o doubtful_a and_o obscure_a a_o nature_n etc._n etc._n we_o be_v to_o believe_v that_o to_o be_v the_o truth_n which_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n agree_v in_o etc._n etc._n and_o afterward_o he_o faith_n in_o such_o a_o case_n as_o this_o and_o so_o he_o say_v before_o 257._o before_o p._n 257._o in_o a_o question_n so_o doubtful_a he_o agree_v to_o what_o s._n austin_n say_v and_o think_v a_o man_n very_o much_o relieve_v by_o follow_v so_o evident_a a_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n but_o the_o not_o so_o relieve_v s._n austin_n declare_v heretic_n not_o by_o virtue_n of_o any_o infallibility_n but_o the_o unreasonableness_n of_o believe_v that_o so_o many_o so_o wise_a so_o disinterest_v person_n shall_v be_v deceive_v that_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o so_o doubtful_a and_o obscure_a a_o nature_n what_o mean_v this_o limitation_n be_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o to_o be_v truth_n which_o council_n determine_v in_o matter_n obscure_a i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v general_o obscure_a but_o not_o so_o in_o matter_n more_o clear_a one_o will_v think_v the_o contrary_a rather_o but_o who_o be_v to_o judge_v when_o the_o question_n or_o matter_n be_v obscure_a since_o on_o this_o depend_v our_o assent_n to_o the_o council_n the_o donatist_n for_o example_n in_o this_o matter_n of_o rebaptisation_n but_o he_o will_v say_v this_o matter_n be_v clear_a enough_o on_o his_o side_n and_o so_o this_o author_n promise_v as_o to_o present_a controversy_n the_o same_o submission_n in_o case_n of_o obscurity_n to_o a_o general_n council_n this_o case_n here_o of_o obscurity_n will_v not_o be_v find_v because_o these_o point_n they_o say_v be_v clear_a on_o their_o side_n and_o they_o offer_v demonstration_n of_o they_o but_o if_o protestant_n will_v affirm_v that_o we_o be_v to_o believe_v that_o to_o be_v the_o truth_n which_o general_a council_n resolve_v without_o limit_v it_o to_o certain_a case_n because_o it_o be_v as_o he_o say_v unreasonable_a to_o believe_v so_o many_o so_o wise_a so_o disinterest_v person_n shall_v be_v deceive_v and_o then_o grant_v that_o consequent_o in_o necessary_n these_o council_n must_v not_o err_v for_o so_o we_o shall_v be_v oblige_v to_o believe_v in_o necessary_n something_o wrong_n and_o false_a this_o will_v be_v as_o much_o as_o we_o desire_v ib._n l._n 3_o let_v the_o same_o evidence_n be_v produce_v for_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n from_o the_o apostolical_a time_n in_o the_o matter_n in_o dispute_n between_o our_o church_n and_o that_o of_o rome_n and_o the_o controversy_n of_o infallibility_n may_v be_v lay_v aside_o what_o be_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n from_o the_o apostolical_a time_n be_v the_o question_n between_o s._n austin_n and_o the_o donatist_n for_o the_o donatist_n also_o plead_v a_o contrary_a tradition_n against_o the_o catholic_n see_v firmilian_a ep._n 75._o ●pud_fw-la cyprian_n caeterùm_fw-la nos_fw-la veritati_fw-la &_o consuetudinem_fw-la jungimus_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o also_o the_o same_o consent_n be_v controvert_v now_o concern_v now_o for_o a_o sufficient_a and_o certain_a decision_n of_o the_o truth_n in_o this_o question_n viz._n what_o the_o former_a tradition_n be_v or_o what_o be_v our_o lord_n will_v in_o this_o matter_n s._n austin_n urge_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o present_a church_n meet_v in_o a_o general_n council_n and_o there_o discuss_v the_o matter_n where_o s._n austin_n do_v not_o require_v the_o donatists_n submission_n to_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n from_o the_o apostolical_a time_n first_o prove_v to_o they_o i.e._n they_o confess_v it_o so_o for_o this_o if_o prove_v to_o they_o donatist_n do_v not_o nor_o can_v not_o decline_v as_o now_o neither_o do_v the_o dr._n let_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n &c_n &c_n be_v prove_v by_o a_o universal_a consent_n of_o antiquity_n etc._n etc._n p._n 244._o and_o here_o let_v the_o same_o evidence_n be_v produce_v for_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n from_o the_o apostolical_a time_n etc._n etc._n that_o be_v as_o i_o understand_v he_o let_v such_o a_o consent_n be_v evidence_v to_o we_o but_o s._n austin_n require_v their_o submission_n and_o belief_n to_o the_o latter_a general_n council_n of_o nice_a or_o arles_n or_o both_o it_o matter_n not_o declare_v what_o be_v the_o former_a apostolical_a tradition_n which_o if_o the_o infallibility_n of_o this_o council_n need_v not_o be_v stand_v on_o as_o to_o the_o donatist_n obedience_n yet_o it_o be_v in_o the_o council_n determination_n of_o any_o necessary_n as_o to_o christian_n believe_v in_o such_o necessary_n a_o truth_n of_o which_o necessary_n also_o this_o council_n not_o their_o subject_n be_v to_o judge_v and_o the_o father_n word_n will_v have_v weigh_v little_a with_o these_o african_n persuade_v they_o to_o obey_v the_o council_n sentence_n though_o a_o error_n therefore_o he_o fortify_v the_o council_n decree_v with_o the_o former_a expression_n christus_fw-la perhibet_fw-la testimonium_fw-la and_o in_o hâc_fw-la re_fw-la tenetur_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la veritas_fw-la pag._n 260._o l._n 9_o let_v they_o never_o think_v to_o fob_v we_o off_o with_o the_o consent_n of_o some_o latter_a age_n for_o a_o tradition_n from_o apostolical_a time_n but_o he_o ought_v to_o admit_v and_o submit_v to_o any_o universal_a consent_n of_o the_o apostolical_a church_n of_o any_o latter_a age_n concern_v what_o be_v the_o tradition_n from_o apostolical_a time_n as_o s._n austin_n admit_v it_o and_o declare_v the_o donatists_n heretic_n for_o not_o admit_v it_o he_o go_v on_o ib._n l._n 10._o nor_o of_o a_o pack_v company_n of_o bishop_n for_o a_o true_o general_n council_n he_o have_v reason_n but_o sure_o there_o will_v need_v no_o pack_v of_o bishop_n for_o their_o vote_v such_o a_o matter_n in_o council_n which_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n or_o if_o it_o be_v but_o the_o much_o major_a part_n of_o they_o have_v abet_v and_o maintain_v teach_v and_o practise_v before_o such_o council_n and_o so_o it_o be_v in_o the_o council_n hold_v before_o luther_n appearance_n and_o also_o afterward_o in_o that_o of_o trent_n that_o for_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o western_a bishop_n who_o can_v only_o be_v convene_v in_o it_o but_o the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v as_o true_o of_o the_o eastern_a too_o be_v in_o most_o of_o the_o controversy_n there_o decide_v against_o the_o protestant_n so_o persuade_v in_o their_o judgement_n before_o their_o meeting_n in_o that_o council_n as_o they_o or_o other_o afterward_o vote_v in_o it_o annotation_n on_o his_o §._o 15._o of_o church-authority_n say_v not_o to_o be_v destroy_v by_o the_o dr_n principle_n pag._n 260._o l._n 15._o the_o last_o thing_n to_o be_v consider_v be_v whether_o the_o same_o argument_n which_o overthrow_n infallibility_n do_v likewise_o destroy_v all_o church-authority_n n.o._n show_v some_o reason_n in_o the_o dr_n principle_n with_o which_o he_o endeavour_v to_o destroy_v church_n infallibility_n to_o ruin_v also_o as_o much_o or_o more_o church-authority_n viz._n as_o to_o their_o office_n of_o teach_v christ_n flock_n and_o expound_v to_o they_o the_o scripture_n these_o particular_a reason_n of_o the_o dr_n question_v for_o this_o n.o._n expect_v shall_v in_o a_o answer_n to_o he_o have_v be_v resume_v by_o the_o dr_n and_o justify_v but_o in_o the_o first_o of_o these_o quotation_n that_o follow_v out_o of_o n.o._n p._n 50._o he_o find_v our_o author_n mention_v n_n oh_o consequence_n indeed_o but_o omit_v the_o argument_n immediate_o precede_v from_o which_o he_o infer_v it_o viz._n first_o observe_v that_o whatever_o divine_a assistance_n be_v advance_v here_o viz._n in_o the_o dr_n 19_o principle_n against_o the_o assurance_n that_o can_v be_v receive_v from_o church-infallibility_a the_o same_o be_v more_o advance_v against_o any_o assurance_n that_o may_v be_v have_v from_o church-authority_n and_o so_o church-authority_n as_o to_o this_o matter_n be_v throw_v off_o by_o he_o as_o well_o as_o church-infallibility_a to_o this_o observation_n the_o dr_n say_v nothing_o in_o the_o second_o quotation_n out_o of_o p._n 70._o he_o find_v he_o mention_v the_o charge_n