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pope_n hold_v it_o doubtful_o and_o recall_v it_o but_o elsewhere_o the_o esset_fw-la the_o bel._n de_fw-fr pontifice_fw-la romano_n l._n 4._o c._n 14._o cum_fw-la liberum_fw-la esset_fw-la cardinal_n answer_v roundly_o to_o it_o that_o pope_n john_n think_v so_o when_o it_o be_v free_a to_o think_v so_o the_o church_n have_v determine_v nothing_o therein_o but_o if_o invocation_n of_o saint_n depart_v have_v be_v a_o define_v and_o determine_v doctrine_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n then_o will_v it_o not_o have_v be_v free_a for_o any_o to_o hold_v they_o in_o a_o place_n where_o they_o can_v not_o be_v invocate_v the_o other_o testimony_n be_v of_o irenaeus_n servevit_fw-la iren._n l._n 5._o c._n 31._o legem_fw-la mortuorum_fw-la servevit_fw-la one_o of_o the_o most_o ancient_a father_n most_o plain_o assert_v the_o former_a opinion_n and_o give_v reason_n for_o it_o from_o our_o saviour_n example_n who_o do_v say_v he_o observe_v the_o law_n of_o the_o dead_a that_o he_o may_v be_v the_o first_o bear_v from_o the_o dead_a and_o what_o law_n be_v that_o beati_fw-la manifestum_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la &_o discipulorum_fw-la animae_fw-la bell._n l._n de_fw-fr beatit_fw-fr sanctorum_fw-la c._n 4._o sect_n tertio_fw-la erat_fw-la animâ_fw-la beatus_fw-la animâ_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o paradiso_fw-la beati_fw-la that_o his_o soul_n shall_v stay_v in_o the_o low_a part_n unto_o his_o resurrection_n or_o in_o a_o invisible_a place_n as_o he_o call_v it_o in_o that_o chapter_n it_o be_v manifest_a therefore_o that_o the_o soul_n of_o his_o disciple_n must_v stay_v in_o the_o invisible_a place_n till_o the_o resurrection_n and_o then_o add_v for_o no_o disciple_n be_v above_o his_o master_n of_o all_o that_o the_o cardinal_n say_v this_o only_a carry_v a_o show_n of_o answer_n that_o christ_n before_o his_o resurrection_n be_v beatify_v in_o soul_n so_o be_v he_o before_o his_o death_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o hypostatical_a union_n in_o like_a manner_n the_o saint_n while_o they_o rest_v as_o to_o their_o body_n in_o the_o sepulchre_n be_v bless_v in_o soul_n and_o in_o paradise_n that_o they_o be_v in_o a_o bless_a condition_n though_o out_o of_o heaven_n or_o the_o beatifical_a vision_n of_o god_n be_v not_o doubt_v but_o that_o paradise_n which_o bell._n in_o reference_n to_o luc._n 23.43_o place_n they_o in_o do_v not_o reach_v the_o high_a heaven_n or_o sight_n of_o god_n and_o so_o he_o say_v nothing_o as_o to_o their_o capacity_n of_o be_v invocate_v so_o also_o what_o he_o say_v gloriosam_fw-la say_v bell._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr beat._n sanctor_n c._n 6._o fuisse_fw-la tamen_fw-la in_fw-la fara_fw-mi diso_fw-it coelesti_fw-la formaliter_fw-la i._n e._n fuisse_fw-la beatam_fw-la &_o gloriosam_fw-la afterward_o that_o christ_n soul_n though_o it_o do_v not_o ascend_v into_o that_o corporeal_a heaven_n before_o his_o resurrection_n yet_o be_v it_o in_o the_o celestial_a paradise_n formal_o i._n e._n it_o be_v bless_v and_o glorious_a which_o 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whether_o the_o book_n be_v forge_v or_o no_o and_o the_o story_n of_o justina_n true_a or_o false_a yet_o nazienzen_n approve_v the_o fact_n or_o practice_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d we_o answer_v that_o he_o tell_v we_o she_o betake_v herself_o to_o god_n for_o help_v and_o to_o christ_n that_o she_o strengthen_v herself_o with_o the_o example_n of_o susanna_n daniel_n etc._n etc._n then_o follow_v have_v consider_v these_o thing_n she_o also_o supplicate_v the_o virgin_n mary_n that_o she_o will_v help_v a_o virgin_n now_o in_o danger_n and_o so_o he_o leave_v the_o story_n neither_o commendig_fw-ge this_o practice_n nor_o reprove_v it_o we_o have_v see_v what_o testi_fw-la money_n the_o romanist_n allege_v out_o of_o the_o father_n and_o how_o faithful_o it_o be_v do_v especial_o by_o the_o cardinal_n one_o argument_n remain_v which_o all_o of_o they_o make_v from_o the_o success_n they_o find_v who_o apply_v themselves_o to_o the_o martyr_n whereby_o it_o be_v evident_a 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one_o thing_n that_o we_o teach_v another_o thing_n which_o we_o bear_v with_o and_o we_o be_v compel_v to_o tolerate_v it_o till_o we_o can_v amend_v it_o therefore_o because_o we_o see_v much_o deflexion_n in_o the_o romish_a practice_n from_o the_o primitive_a verity_n when_o we_o have_v opportunity_n and_o power_n to_o amend_v it_o the_o thing_n st._n aug._n desire_v we_o do_v it_o and_o with_o good_a reason_n allow_v in_o this_o point_n what_o may_v consist_v with_o catholic_n doctrine_n such_o we_o count_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o wish_n of_o have_v benefit_n by_o those_o prayer_n which_o the_o saint_n above_o make_v for_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a and_o labour_a below_o yea_o such_o we_o may_v account_v the_o indirect_a invocation_n which_o beg_v of_o god_n that_o benefit_n or_o effect_v of_o those_o prayer_n but_o we_o can_v account_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o direct_a invocation_n to_o consist_v with_o catholic_n doctrine_n 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nu_fw-la 9_o above_o and_o though_o the_o cardinal_n reason_n which_o exclude_v the_o saint_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n do_v not_o conclude_v against_o the_o angel_n which_o do_v see_v god_n face_n and_o as_o well_o hear_v and_o know_v what_o be_v say_v and_o do_v below_o on_o earth_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o after_o yet_o salmerons_n reason_n may_v prevail_v against_o invocation_n of_o they_o because_o of_o danger_n of_o idolatry_n then_o and_o it_o will_v have_v seem_v strange_a and_o hard_a to_o the_o jew_n and_o albeit_o they_o have_v cherubin_n in_o the_o picture_n yet_o not_o angel_n in_o their_o worship_n which_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o azor_n and_o vasquez_n and_o that_o out_o of_o several_a father_n clear_v the_o jewish_a church_n from_o worship_v of_o angel_n or_o image_n and_o something_o to_o this_o purpose_n be_v say_v 10._o say_v chap._n iii_o nu_fw-la 10._o above_o now_o for_o the_o place_n out_o of_o the_o revelation_n invocation_n place_n of_o scripture_n allege_v for_o invocation_n which_o be_v the_o only_a text_n that_o have_v any_o semblance_n or_o pretence_n for_o invocate_a saint_n or_o angel_n they_o be_v mistake_v as_o apply_v to_o that_o purpose_n that_o text_n rev._n 5.8_o where_o the_o four_o live_a creature_n and_o the_o 24_o elder_n be_v set_v out_o as_o fall_v down_o before_o the_o lamb_n have_v harp_n and_o viol_n full_a of_o odour_n or_o incense_n which_o be_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n here_o the_o romanist_n that_o will_v have_v these_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n to_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o prayer_n of_o man_n live_v offer_v up_o by_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n be_v mistake_v for_o the_o whole_a place_n be_v a_o representation_n of_o the_o church_n below_o offer_v up_o prayer_n to_o god_n by_o christ_n the_o lamb_n and_o those_o eucharistical_a or_o prayer_n of_o thanksgiving_n and_o praise_n chief_o for_o the_o victory_n of_o the_o lamb_n and_o redemption_n by_o christ_n as_o the_o next_o verse_n specify_v they_o thus_o viega_n understand_v they_o of_o the_o church_n below_o and_o he_o follow_v good_a author_n in_o it_o the_o next_o be_v rev._n 6.10_o how_o long_a o_o lord_n here_o also_o be_v a_o great_a mistake_n of_o romanist_n make_v this_o a_o formal_a prayer_n of_o the_o martyr_n for_o revenge_n which_o stand_v not_o with_o that_o charity_n they_o have_v in_o so_o great_a a_o degree_n and_o therefore_o this_o be_v but_o a_o figurative_a or_o emblematical_a representation_n of_o their_o soul_n lie_v under_o the_o altar_n and_o call_n for_o revenge_n only_o to_o show_v the_o certainty_n of_o that_o judgement_n and_o vengeance_n which_o god_n will_v in_o time_n bring_v upon_o the_o heathen_a persecutor_n for_o their_o blood_n as_o when_o abel_n blood_n be_v say_v to_o cry_v for_o vengeance_n and_o for_o the_o argument_n they_o make_v if_o the_o soul_n of_o martyr_n cry_v for_o vengeance_n upon_o their_o enemy_n therefore_o their_o charity_n much_o more_o prompt_v they_o to_o pray_v for_o god_n servant_n it_o fail_v first_o in_o the_o antecedent_n for_o they_o do_v not_o as_o we_o see_v make_v any_o formal_a prayer_n for_o vengeance_n and_o then_o it_o fail_v in_o the_o inference_n for_o it_o will_v only_o conclude_v that_o they_o do_v pray_v for_o the_o church_n militant_a which_o we_o grant_v not_o that_o they_o offer_v up_o prayer_n make_v to_o they_o which_o be_v the_o point_n in_o question_n the_o three_o text_n rev._n 8.3_o where_o another_o angel_n be_v say_v to_o stand_v by_o the_o altar_n have_v a_o golden_a censer_n and_o much_o incense_n be_v give_v to_o he_o that_o he_o may_v offer_v it_o with_o the_o prayer_n of_o all_o saint_n a_o great_a mistake_n this_o and_o impious_a to_o make_v this_o the_o office_n of_o any_o create_a angel_n for_o the_o very_a text_n seem_v to_o imply_v that_o this_o be_v a_o special_a angel_n differ_v from_o the_o seven_o angel_n set_v out_o in_o the_o second_o verse_n as_o minister_a spirit_n and_o what_o one_o create_a angel_n be_v sufficient_a for_o this_o to_o receive_v and_o offer_v up_o their_o prayer_n that_o be_v make_v by_o all_o the_o saint_n or_o just_a man_n on_o earth_n therefore_o general_o it_o be_v interpret_v of_o christ_n the_o great_a angel_n of_o the_o counsel_n of_o god_n as_o viega_n and_o other_o modern_a writer_n and_o herein_o they_o have_v ambrose_n haimo_n rupertus_n and_o the_o interlineary_a gloss_n consent_v to_o who_o i_o may_v add_v what_o irenaeus_n say_v reflect_v upon_o this_o place_n and_o the_o other_o cap._n 5.8_o where_o speak_v of_o the_o church_n offer_v up_o all_o by_o christ_n apply_v to_o it_o that_o of_o malachi_n cap._n 1.11_o in_o every_o place_n incense_n shall_v be_v offer_v then_o add_v now_o sacerdotem_fw-la now_o iren._n l._n 4._o c._n 33._o incensa_fw-la autem_fw-la joan._n in_o apocal._n orationes_fw-la ait_fw-la esse_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la tert._n advers._fw-la martion_n l._n 4._o c._n 9_o per_fw-la jesum_fw-la christum_fw-la catholicum_fw-la patris_fw-la sacerdotem_fw-la st._n john_n in_o the_o revel_n say_v that_o incense_n or_o the_o sweet_a odour_n be_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o tertul._n upon_o that_o of_o our_o saviour_n to_o the_o leper_n cleanse_v show_v thyself_o to_o the_o priest_n and_o offer_v mat._n 8.4_o infer_v we_o must_v offer_v up_o all_o our_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n by_o jesus_n christ_n the_o catholic_n or_o universal_a priest_n of_o the_o father_n no_o create_a angel_n can_v be_v such_o a_o catholic_n priest_n to_o offer_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o all_o saint_n thus_o much_o for_o scripture_n to_o show_v how_o destitute_a they_o be_v of_o any_o real_a proof_n and_o therefore_o want_v the_o first_o and_o main_a ground_n of_o catholic_n faith_n and_o doctrine_n introduct_n sect._n 1._o in_o introduct_n according_a to_o vincentius_n his_o certain_a and_o safe_a rule_n at_o first_o mention_v now_o let_v we_o make_v a_o brief_a survey_n of_o antiquity_n and_o see_v
invocantes_fw-la again_o quisquis_fw-la habet_fw-la deum_fw-la propitium_fw-la propter_fw-la magni_fw-la consilii_fw-la angelum_fw-la quae_fw-la multitudo_fw-la angelorum_fw-la cum_fw-la videt_fw-la homines_fw-la svam_fw-la erga_fw-la deum_fw-la pietatem_fw-la imitantes_fw-la adjutat_fw-la eâ—s_fw-la contendentes_fw-la ad_fw-la sâ—lutem_fw-la &_o deum_fw-la invocantes_fw-la whosoever_o say_v he_o have_v god_n propitious_a by_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o great_a counsel_n jesus_n christ_n he_o may_v be_v content_a with_o that_o and_o shall_v not_o want_v protection_n for_o the_o multitude_n of_o angel_n see_v man_n imitate_v their_o piety_n towards_o god_n help_v they_o while_o they_o contend_v to_o salvation_n call_v upon_o god_n this_o be_v the_o wholesome_a doctrine_n of_o those_o time_n and_o to_o the_o same_o tenor_n sound_v that_o which_o above_o be_v cite_v out_o of_o tertul._n say_v we_o must_v offer_v up_o all_o by_o our_o catholic_n or_o universal_a high_a priest_n jesus_n christ_n call_v so_o to_o the_o exclusion_n of_o all_o other_o our_o three_o general_n be_v after_o the_o practice_n begin_v in_o some_o manner_n towards_o the_o end_n of_o the_o four_o age_n age._n invocation_n of_o god_n alone_o assert_v in_o that_o age._n yet_o do_v we_o find_v the_o former_a doctrine_n of_o god_n alone_o to_o be_v invocate_v by_o jesus_n christ_n assert_v often_o in_o the_o father_n invocandus_fw-la father_n a_o mbr_n de_fw-fr obitu_fw-la theod_n tu_fw-la tamen_fw-la domine_fw-la solus_fw-la es_fw-la invocandus_fw-la st._n ambrose_n speak_v with_o relation_n to_o the_o two_o young_a son_n of_o theodosius_n yet_o thou_o o_o lord_n be_v only_o to_o be_v invocate_v that_o be_v for_o a_o blessing_n and_o protection_n upon_o they_o and_o in_o rom._n 1.21_o if_o those_o commentary_n be_v he_o or_o if_o of_o a_o late_a writer_n it_o be_v so_o much_o more_o to_o the_o prejudice_n of_o invocation_n he_o answer_v the_o heathen_n excuse_v for_o their_o come_n to_o the_o creator_n by_o the_o creature_n nescit_fw-la ambr._n in_o rom._n 1.21_o per_fw-la commites_fw-la pervenâ—tâ—ur_fw-la ad_fw-la regem_fw-la quia_fw-la â—oâ—no_fw-la est_fw-la &_o nescit_fw-la that_o they_o do_v it_o as_o to_z king_n we_o come_v per_fw-la comites_fw-la &_o tribunos_fw-la by_o their_o great_a officer_n at_o court_n the_o romanist_n use_v the_o like_a reason_n or_o excuse_v we_o come_v say_v the_o father_n by_o such_o officer_n to_o the_o king_n because_o he_o be_v a_o man_n and_o know_v not_o all_o but_o god_n know_v all_o man_n condition_n and_o merit_n and_o we_o need_v not_o use_v such_o a_o intercessor_n to_o he_o but_o only_o a_o devout_a mind_n â—ale_fw-la mind_n chrys_n 4._o hom_n de_fw-fr paenit_fw-la in_o deo_fw-la nihil_fw-la â—ale_fw-la chrysost_o often_o to_o the_o like_a purpose_n deny_v the_o way_n of_o our_o come_n to_o god_n to_o be_v like_o the_o manner_n of_o king_n court_n in_o god_n say_v he_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n elsewhere_o he_o forbid_v we_o to_o bring_v in_o angel_n when_o we_o will_v have_v any_o thing_n prosper_v but_o with_o reference_n to_o the_o apostle_n precept_n col._n 3.17_o 〈◊〉_d chrys_n hom._n 9_o in_o 3._o colos_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v all_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n he_o bid_v set_v that_o name_n before_o and_o all_o thing_n will_v be_v happy_a and_o prosperous_a and_o do_v not_o bring_v in_o angel_n and_o the_o marginal_a note_n in_o the_o paris_n edition_n be_v angeli_fw-la non_fw-la adjungendi_fw-la ad_fw-la invocationem_fw-la trinitatis_fw-la angel_n be_v not_o to_o be_v join_v when_o we_o invocate_v god_n indeed_o it_o be_v athanasius_n his_o argument_n for_o the_o deity_n of_o our_o saviour_n because_o the_o apostle_n join_v he_o in_o prayer_n with_o the_o father_n 1_o thes_n 3.11_o as_o above_o cite_v 5._o chap._n 1._o nu_fw-la 5._o and_o this_o make_v athansius_n interpret_v the_o angel_n which_o jacob_n seem_v to_o join_v with_o god_n in_o invocation_n gen._n 48.16_o arrianos_fw-la athan._n in_o 4._o contra_fw-la arrianos_fw-la to_o be_v christ_n and_o by_o many_o example_n he_o show_v none_o to_o be_v invocate_v but_o god_n and_o speak_v of_o david_n he_o never_o invocate_v any_o save_o god_n himself_o ibid._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n now_o to_o answer_v here_o as_o romanist_n will_v do_v that_o the_o saint_n be_v then_o out_o of_o sight_n of_o god_n or_o that_o none_o be_v to_o be_v invocate_v as_o god_n but_o god_n himself_o will_v be_v first_o impertinent_a because_o the_o angel_n who_o athanasius_n express_o exclude_v from_o be_v invoke_v do_v see_v the_o face_n of_o god_n then_o as_o well_o as_o now_o also_o because_o such_o answer_n if_o it_o be_v proper_a by_o that_o limitation_n as_o god_n will_v render_v the_o father_n argument_n invalid_a and_o impertinent_a when_o he_o so_o often_o prove_v the_o deity_n of_o our_o saviour_n by_o invocation_n and_o so_o do_v other_o father_n after_o he_o st._n vigilant_a hier._n l._n adversus_fw-la vigilant_a hierom_n live_v in_o the_o four_o age_n after_o that_o practice_n begin_v but_o if_o it_o have_v be_v the_o practice_n or_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n he_o will_v not_o have_v spare_v vigilantius_n in_o that_o point_n as_o he_o do_v not_o in_o any_o wherein_o he_o can_v have_v advantage_n against_o he_o see_v therefore_o he_o only_o defend_v the_o saint_n pray_v for_o we_o which_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n have_v nothing_o in_o defence_n of_o our_o invocate_a they_o it_o be_v evident_a this_o be_v no_o doctrine_n nor_o to_o be_v account_v of_o as_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o be_v st._n hier._n often_o cite_v as_o a_o witness_n for_o invocation_n because_o upon_o other_o point_n he_o write_v against_o vigilantius_n who_o find_v fault_n with_o that_o beginning_n practice_v of_o invocation_n st._n invocari_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr civet_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 22._o c._n 10._o nominari_fw-la à _fw-la sacerdote_fw-la non_fw-la invocari_fw-la aug._n say_v express_o of_o the_o mantyr_n they_o be_v name_v in_o the_o daily_a sacrifice_n they_o be_v not_o invocate_v indeed_o it_o be_v late_a by_o much_o ere_o invocation_n of_o saint_n come_v into_o the_o public_a office_n but_o st._n august_n be_v by_o the_o objection_n of_o enemy_n often_o put_v to_o it_o punctual_o to_o set_v down_o what_o be_v do_v at_o the_o monument_n of_o martyr_n as_o we_o see_v 4._o see_v sect._n 1_o nu_fw-la 4._o above_o no_v where_o mention_n invocate_a of_o they_o but_o of_o god_n but_o the_o volunt_fw-la the_o bell._n i_o de_fw-fr beat._n sanct._n c._n 17._o sect_n quariò_fw-la sanctum_fw-la augustinum_n doeere_o sanctos_fw-la invocandos_fw-la non_fw-la ut_fw-la deos_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la à _fw-la deo_fw-la impetrent_fw-la quod_fw-la volunt_fw-la cardinal_n bold_o though_o untrue_o tell_v his_o reader_n that_o st._n aug._n teach_v the_o saint_n be_v not_o to_o be_v invocate_v as_o god_n but_o as_o those_o that_o can_v obtain_v of_o god_n what_o they_o will_v and_o the_o place_n he_o note_n be_v de_fw-fr civit._n dei_fw-la l._n 8._o c._n ult_n &_o l._n 22._o c._n 10._o whereas_o st._n aug._n in_o the_o first_o place_n speak_v of_o no_o invocation_n but_o of_o god_n and_o for_o the_o martyr_n he_o speak_v only_o of_o our_o imitate_v they_o in_o the_o second_o place_n he_o express_o deny_v they_o be_v invocate_v as_o we_o cite_v it_o hard_o above_o again_o the_o orent_fw-la the_o bell._n l._n de_fw-fr beat._n sanct._n c._n 19_o sect_n ult_n docere_fw-la quòâ—_n in_o sacrificio_fw-la ipso_fw-la memoria_fw-la srat_fw-la martyrum_fw-la &_o invocentur_fw-la ut_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la orent_fw-la cardinal_n say_v st._n august_n teach_v that_o in_o the_o sacrifice_n itself_o there_o be_v a_o remembrance_n make_v of_o the_o martyr_n and_o that_o they_o be_v invocate_v that_o they_o will_v pray_v for_o we_o the_o place_n he_o cite_v be_v tract_n 84._o in_o jo._n and_o serm._n 17._o de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la apostoli_fw-la now_o its_o strange_a that_o st._n aug._n shall_v so_o forget_v himself_o as_o in_o one_o place_n to_o say_v they_o be_v name_v or_o remember_v in_o the_o sacrifice_n not_o invocate_v and_o in_o another_o to_o say_v as_o the_o cardinal_n impose_v upon_o he_o and_o the_o reader_n they_o be_v invocate_v in_o the_o first_o place_n st._n aug._n say_v we_o do_v not_o remember_v martyr_n there_o as_o we_o do_v other_o that_o rest_n in_o peace_n adhaereamus_fw-la peace_n non_fw-la ut_fw-la pro_fw-la iis_fw-la oremus_fw-la sed_fw-la magis_fw-la ut_fw-la ipsi_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la orent_fw-la ut_fw-la eorum_fw-la vestigiis_fw-la adhaereamus_fw-la to_o pray_v for_o they_o but_o rather_o that_o they_o pray_v for_o we_o that_o we_o may_v follow_v their_o step_n in_o the_o second_o place_n thus_o the_o martyr_n be_v recite_v at_o the_o altar_n not_o that_o we_o shall_v pray_v for_o they_o for_o its_o a_o injury_n to_o pray_v for_o a_o martyr_n commendare_fw-la martyr_n cujus_fw-la nos_fw-la orationibus_fw-la debemus_fw-la commendare_fw-la to_o who_o prayer_n we_o ought_v
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who_o sin_n and_o punishment_n it_o do_v in_o part_n cut_v off_o viz_o such_o as_o have_v not_o full_o satisfy_v here_o but_o must_v do_v it_o elsewhere_o then_o will_v epiphanius_n have_v he_o know_v such_o doctrine_n have_v much_o forget_v himself_o and_o betray_v the_o church_n in_o not_o stop_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o adversary_n therewith_o to_o conclude_v epiphanius_n his_o answer_n to_o aerius_n must_v come_v to_o this_o albeit_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o as_o you_o misconceive_v the_o intent_n of_o it_o cut_v off_o such_o man_n sin_n yet_o be_v it_o for_o other_o reason_n profitable_a for_o such_o as_o be_v above_o recite_v another_o thing_n they_o object_v out_o of_o epiphanius_n his_o word_n that_o he_o say_v we_o pray_v for_o sinner_n and_o implore_v mercy_n of_o god_n for_o they_o but_o such_o sinner_n say_v they_o must_v be_v in_o purgatory_n answ_n epiphanius_n do_v not_o say_v we_o pray_v for_o sinner_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o we_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o just_a and_o also_o of_o sinner_n and_o of_o sinner_n as_o implore_v the_o mercy_n of_o god_n again_o let_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d stand_v which_o some_o question_n as_o put_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d look_v unto_o or_o look_v at_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n and_o let_v it_o sound_v as_o they_o will_v have_v it_o a_o implore_v of_o god_n mercy_n and_o let_v it_o have_v respect_n to_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o the_o dead_a which_o yet_o epiphanius_n do_v not_o say_v but_o seem_v rather_o to_o direct_v it_o to_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o live_n to_o show_v that_o forasmuch_o as_o we_o offend_v all_o in_o this_o world_n as_o above_o note_v we_o all_o need_v mercy_n i_o say_v let_v all_o these_o be_v grant_v it_o will_v amount_v to_o no_o more_o than_o that_o which_o dionysius_n speak_v of_o their_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a at_o his_o carry_v forth_o to_o burial_n that_o all_o his_o sin_n commit_v through_o humane_a weakness_n may_v be_v forgive_v he_o 〈◊〉_d diony_n eccles_n hierar_fw-it c._n 7._o parte_fw-la tertia_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o he_o place_v in_o light_n in_o the_o region_n of_o the_o live_n in_o abraham_n bosom_n and_o now_o see_v what_o this_o author_n say_v of_o that_o pray_n for_o the_o dead_a suitable_a to_o epiphanius_n his_o account_n of_o it_o he_o there_o by_o way_n of_o objection_n put_v the_o question_n ibid._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d diony_n ibid._n by_o what_o prayer_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o priest_n can_v he_o the_o dead_a person_n be_v transfer_v into_o any_o other_o seat_n or_o state_n than_o he_o deserve_v to_o be_v in_o how_o obvious_a have_v the_o answer_n of_o purgatory_n be_v here_o have_v it_o be_v know_a doctrine_n then_o but_o nothing_o be_v say_v by_o he_o to_o that_o purpose_n his_o reason_n as_o epiphan_n above_o imply_v that_o the_o intent_n of_o such_o pray_v be_v main_o to_o give_v hope_n and_o instruction_n to_o the_o live_n first_o he_o insinuate_v in_o vain_a be_v the_o benefit_n of_o such_o prayer_n expect_v by_o those_o who_o be_v careless_a of_o the_o precept_n i._n e._n who_o live_v not_o well_o then_o that_o the_o bishop_n or_o priest_n in_o so_o pray_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o interpreter_n or_o publisher_n of_o the_o divine_a judgement_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d viz._n in_o give_v reward_n according_a as_o man_n deserve_v and_o how_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o divine_a love_a kindness_n in_o great_a goodness_n overlook_v their_o infirmity_n or_o spot_n and_o stain_n of_o sin_n contract_v by_o humane_a weakness_n thus_o that_o prayer_n which_o beg_v all_o his_o sin_n may_v be_v forgive_v be_v doctrine_n to_o the_o live_n show_v and_o assure_v they_o of_o god_n mercy_n to_o they_o that_o strive_v to_o live_v well_o notwithstanding_o through_o humane_a weakness_n they_o offend_v often_o and_o can_v be_v free_a from_o all_o spot_n and_o stain_n of_o sin_n then_o in_o relation_n as_o it_o seem_v to_o the_o other_o part_n of_o the_o prayer_n which_o beg_v that_o he_o may_v be_v place_v in_o light_n etc._n etc._n this_o author_n add_v the_o bishop_n or_o priest_n know_v such_o good_a thing_n be_v promise_v and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d therefore_o pray_v that_o they_o may_v come_v to_o pass_v and_o be_v give_v to_o they_o that_o have_v live_v well_o also_o he_o know_v that_o the_o good_a thing_n promise_v will_v come_v to_o pass_v and_o therefore_o 〈◊〉_d therefore_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o interpreter_n of_o god_n will_n he_o show_v they_o will_v sure_o be_v make_v good_a to_o they_o that_o so_o live_v and_o die_v this_o be_v the_o very_a sum_n of_o his_o answer_n which_o plain_o speak_v comfort_n and_o instruction_n to_o the_o live_n his_o conclusion_n be_v this_o wherefore_o the_o bishop_n or_o minister_n pray_v for_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v promise_v of_o god_n and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o be_v render_v and_o perform_v in_o which_o 〈◊〉_d which_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o declare_v both_o the_o good_a disposition_n of_o his_o own_o mind_n to_o god_n and_o to_o those_o that_o be_v present_a the_o good_a thing_n which_o shall_v be_v to_o the_o saint_n so_o still_o the_o end_n of_o those_o prayer_n be_v as_o epiphanius_n call_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o preach_v or_o instruction_n to_o the_o live_n that_o be_v present_a now_o these_o instruction_n for_o the_o live_n and_o indication_n of_o the_o will_n of_o god_n and_o their_o own_o good_a disposition_n they_o give_v out_o by_o way_n of_o prayer_n and_o wish_v rather_o than_o by_o bare_a assertion_n of_o the_o happy_a estate_n of_o they_o that_o die_v in_o christ_n because_o this_o do_v not_o only_o speak_v such_o truth_n but_o do_v also_o witness_v their_o compliance_n of_o desire_n and_o signify_v their_o affection_n towards_o the_o decease_a and_o show_v their_o complacency_n and_o congratulation_n in_o and_o for_o the_o happy_a estate_n of_o the_o decease_a that_o mutual_a wel-wishing_a which_o be_v between_o the_o member_n of_o the_o same_o body_n the_o church_n it_o be_v more_o prompt_a as_o to_o the_o express_v of_o their_o own_o affection_n and_o more_o profitable_a as_o they_o think_v for_o the_o live_n to_o speak_v by_o way_n of_o prayer_n what_o the_o depart_v have_v then_o by_o bare_a assertion_n if_o it_o be_v object_v as_o it_o be_v sometime_o by_o the_o defender_n of_o purgatory_n that_o the_o like_a prayer_n be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a not_o only_o at_o the_o departure_n and_o funeral_n but_o every_o year_n afterward_o and_o therefore_o must_v suppose_v they_o in_o such_o a_o state_n or_o place_n wherein_o they_o want_v still_o forgiveness_n and_o light_n the_o thing_n pray_v for_o this_o infeference_n be_v inconsequent_a for_o still_o there_o may_v be_v like_o intent_n in_o the_o yearly_a use_v those_o prayer_n as_o be_v before_o express_v the_o show_v of_o their_o hope_n of_o they_o that_o be_v depart_v the_o instruction_n of_o the_o live_n 5._o bel._n lib._n 2._o de_fw-la purgat_fw-la c._n 5._o but_o the_o cardinal_n also_o will_v furnish_v we_o with_o another_o answer_n for_o be_v put_v to_o clear_v a_o objection_n arise_v from_o a_o prayer_n in_o their_o mass_n for_o the_o dead_a which_o run_v thus_o deliver_v o_o lord_n the_o soul_n of_o all_o the_o faithful_a depart_v from_o the_o pain_n of_o hell_n from_o the_o deep_a lake_n from_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o lion_n and_o seem_v not_o to_o agree_v to_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n which_o they_o hold_v be_v deliver_v from_o hell_n and_o sure_a of_o heaven_n he_o answer_v first_o that_o albeit_o the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n have_v receive_v their_o first_o sentence_n already_o in_o their_o particular_a judgement_n accepturi_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la jam_fw-la acceperint_fw-la primam_fw-la sententiam_fw-la in_o particulart_n judicio_fw-la eaque_fw-la sententia_fw-la liberae_fw-la sunt_fw-la a_o gehenna_n restat_fw-la â—amen_fw-la generale_fw-mi in_fw-la quo_fw-la secundam_fw-la accepturi_fw-la and_o by_o that_o sentence_n be_v deliver_v from_o hell_n yet_o there_o be_v a_o general_n judgement_n behind_o in_o which_o they_o must_v receive_v a_o second_o sentence_n it_o be_v a_o truth_n indeed_o and_o catholic_n doctrine_n that_o sentence_n for_o mercy_n or_o condemnation_n be_v pass_v both_o in_o the_o first_o appear_v of_o the_o soul_n before_o god_n at_o death_n and_o after_o at_o the_o resurrection_n or_o general_a judgement_n when_o the_o sentence_n be_v pronounce_v open_o and_o before_o all_o the_o world_n and_o to_o these_o the_o prayer_n make_v at_o the_o funeral_n and_o afterward_o may_v refer_v without_o suppose_v purgatory_n for_o this_o answer_n of_o the_o cardinal_n
before_o they_o how_o shall_v we_o not_o they_o move_v and_o make_v god_n propitious_a while_o we_o pray_v for_o they_o that_o be_v depart_v here_o again_o the_o romanist_n triumph_n as_o if_o st._n chrysost_o make_v their_o pray_v for_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o apostle_n whereas_o he_o plain_o restrain_v this_o ordinance_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o above_o he_o do_v the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o spirit_n to_o that_o which_o the_o church_n do_v in_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n and_o that_o concern_v only_o they_o who_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o christ_n nothing_o of_o soul_n in_o pain_n and_o torment_n be_v mention_v in_o the_o ancient_a liturgy_n or_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n as_o for_o this_o father_n speak_v of_o prayer_n for_o such_o sinner_n as_o he_o describe_v in_o all_o the_o forementioned_a place_n such_o as_o be_v go_v to_o endless_a pain_n yet_o may_v receive_v as_o he_o think_v a_o little_a case_n thereby_o we_o must_v reckon_v it_o as_o a_o private_a opinion_n and_o misapplication_n of_o that_o practice_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o indeed_o he_o seem_v to_o acknowledge_v so_o much_o himself_o for_o in_o his_o forementioned_a hom._n 61._o in_o jo._n he_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o relation_n to_o those_o his_o exhortation_n for_o such_o prayer_n and_o offering_n these_o thing_n i_o speak_v not_o as_o one_o give_v precept_n or_o set_v a_o law_n but_o as_o one_o allow_v and_o condescend_v to_o the_o affection_n and_o frailty_n of_o man_n the_o romanist_n here_o reply_v that_o st._n chrysost_o and_o other_o seem_v to_o urge_v prayer_n for_o all_o because_o they_o know_v not_o who_o die_v in_o the_o state_n of_o repentance_n and_o so_o they_o pray_v for_o all_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n yet_o hold_v those_o prayer_n appliable_a to_o and_o available_a for_o only_o those_o that_o die_v in_o that_o state_n and_o go_v to_o purgatory_n pain_n this_o be_v a_o mere_a shift_n for_o st._n chrysost_o do_v plain_o suppose_v that_o those_o sinner_n he_o speak_v of_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n such_o 〈◊〉_d chrys_n hom_n 61._o in_o lo._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o if_o god_n have_v see_v they_o will_v have_v change_v he_o will_v not_o have_v cut_v they_o off_o before_o their_o repentance_n as_o we_o have_v it_o above_o such_o as_o he_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v thus_o of_o of_o such_o a_o one_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n to_o rejoice_v but_o only_o because_o the_o course_n of_o his_o wicked_a life_n be_v cut_v off_o yet_o for_o such_o he_o exhort_v to_o pray_v and_o offer_v and_o help_v he_o as_o they_o can_v and_o indeed_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o extend_v the_o benefit_n of_o prayer_n to_o such_o sinner_n be_v not_o any_o supposal_n of_o purgatory_n but_o of_o some_o mitigate_a and_o ease_v of_o those_o eternal_a pain_n to_o which_o such_o sinner_n be_v adjudge_v and_o this_o in_o part_n according_a to_o that_o merciful_a opinion_n and_o the_o motion_n of_o humane_a affection_n of_o which_o st._n aug._n speak_v in_o his_o enchiridion_n c._n 111._o as_o we_o note_v above_o and_o to_o which_o affection_n st._n chrysost_o give_v too_o much_o scope_n as_o we_o see_v in_o the_o forementioned_a passage_n of_o prayer_n &_o oblation_n for_o such_o sinner_n but_o as_o for_o purgatory_n pain_n which_o be_v suppose_v to_o begin_v at_o death_n &_o to_o end_v before_o the_o resurrection_n he_o know_v no_o such_o pain_n as_o evident_o appear_v by_o that_o exact_a distribution_n of_o the_o several_a sort_n of_o punishment_n make_v by_o this_o father_n and_o cite_v below_o nu._n 11._o what_o we_o have_v say_v of_o some_o expression_n of_o chrysost_n apply_v prayer_n and_o relief_n to_o such_o sinner_n as_o before_o be_v describe_v may_v be_v say_v of_o that_o place_n which_o the_o romanist_n much_o urge_v out_o of_o st._n 〈◊〉_d cyril_n mist_n â—atech_n 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n who_o tell_v we_o they_o pray_v simple_o for_o all_o and_o account_v it_o a_o great_a help_n to_o those_o soul_n for_o which_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o great_a and_o holy_a sacrifice_n be_v offer_v and_o the_o great_a power_n which_o that_o prayer_n have_v to_o help_v he_o set_v out_o by_o the_o similitude_n of_o a_o king_n entreat_v to_o pardon_n and_o call_v back_o one_o that_o be_v banish_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d according_a to_o the_o same_o manner_n say_v he_o we_o pray_v for_o sinner_n render_v god_n propitious_a now_o if_o it_o be_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n then_o by_o the_o force_n of_o this_o similitude_n it_o must_v be_v employ_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n may_v obtain_v pardon_n for_o sinner_n not_o reconcile_v to_o god_n before_o their_o death_n for_o so_o the_o banish_a person_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v not_o reconcile_v to_o his_o prince_n and_o then_o it_o sound_v to_o like_a purpose_n as_o those_o passage_n in_o chrysostom_n do_v and_o be_v but_o a_o private_a application_n or_o misapplication_n of_o 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