decrees of the Church that properly makes the Heretique The Heretiques recounted by S. Augustine Epiphanius and Philastrius in their Catalogues were condemned not so much for their errours which were many ofthem not very materiall as for their contempt of the Church S. Cyprian and the Donatists differed not in the matter of their errour but the obstinacy of the Donatists and their disobedience to the Church made them to be condemned for Heretiques when S. Cyprian was absolved because the Church in his time had not declared her selfe And in the like manner the Novatians were condemned on the same grounds Answer Sect. 4. OF the nature of Heresie The Church may declare convince an Heresie but cannot properly make any Doctrine Hereticall unlesse it be such in the matter of it The words Heresie and Heretique very ambiguous How commonly used by the Ancients Of their Catalogues of Heretiques S. Cyprian though erring in the point of Rebaptization justly absolved from Schisme and Heresie The Donatists guilty of both And the Novatians of Schisme Charity mistaken Chap. 6. AGaine the onely right ground and true infallible motiue of faith by which it is produced and on which it relyes is the revelation of God and the proposition of his Church He therefore who beleeves not every particular Article of Catholique Doctrine which is revealed and propounded by Almighty God and his Church which Church is absolutely infallible in all her proposalls doth not assent to any one even of those which he beleeves by divine faith because he assents not upon the onely true and infallible motiue An assent not grounded on this is no supernaturall divine faith but onely an humane suspicion or opinion or persuasion And such is the faith of Turkes Iewes Moores and all Heretiques particularly of the Protestants Answer Sect. 5. DIvine revelation the principall motiue last object into which faith supernaturall is resolved The testimony and ministery of the Church is of great use for the begetting of faith But the Church hath not an authority unlimited and absolutely infallible in all her doctrines as Some Romanists pretend Others of them reasonably fairly limit the Churches infallibility The Church Vniversall infallible in fundamentall doctrines Not so in points of lesser moment The Mistaker cannot say what he meanes by the Church whereof he sayes so much Of the Church represented in Generall Councells of which VVe speak and thinke more honorably then doe our Adversaries Yet we thinke them not absolutely infallible Of the Pope whom they call the Church virtuall How his Flatterers speake of his authority No Roman Catholique can be assured of his infallibility which is at the most and best but problematicall by their owne principles Charity mistaken Chap. 7. PRotestants object that Roman Catholiques are not at unity among themselves as appeares by many questions wherein their Writers are at variance Answer Catholique Doctors differ onely in matters of Opinion not decided by the Church not in any point of Faith And besides their differences are all fairely carried without any breach of Charity If it be againe objected that learned Catholiques beleeue more then the unlearned Answer This hinders not their Vnitie It suffices the Vulgar to beleeve implicitly what the Church teaches And by vertue of such implicite faith a Cardinall Bellarmine and a Catholique Collier are of the same beleife Answer Sect. 6. DIssentions in the Church of Rome of greater importance then any among the Reformed They differ not onely in Opinion but in matters of their Faith As about the Popes authority and the Popes themselves about their vulgar Latine Bibles Discords among Them uncharitably pursued Some patterns of their mutuall bitternesse and revilings Implicite faith in some points and in some persons admitted VVhat it is which we dislike here in the doctrine of some Romanists Charity mistaken Chap. 8. 9. THe Protestants pretend to be at unitie with the Ancient Church with the Lutherans and even with Roman Catholiques in fundamentall points That distinction so ordinary with them betweene fundamentall points and not fundamentall is vaine without ground No Protestant Writer none of their Vniversities Colledges or Societies of learned men amongst them can or dare define what doctrines are fundamentall or give us in a List or Catalogue of Fundamentalls Some say they are contained in the Creed But those men may be ashamed of that opinion seeing in the Creed there is no mention of the Canon of Scripture or of the number or nature of the Sacraments of justification whether it be by faith alone or by workes or of that doctrine of devills forbidding marriage meats which was the doctrine of the Manichees and not of Roman Catholiques as Protestants perversly affirme and finally since there is such great differences between them and us about the understanding of the Articles of Christs Descent into Hell of the holy Catholique Church and the Communion of Saints Others say the Booke of the 39 Articles of the Church of England declares all the fundamentall points of faith But that also is most absurdly affirmed That Booke declares onely and that in an extreamly confused manner what the Church of England beleeves in most things And in many Controversies betweene them and us it speakes obscurely not touching the maine difficulty of the questions As in the points of the Visibility and infallibility of the Church of Freewill and of the Canon of Scripture Answer Sect. 7. THe distinction between doctrines fundamentall and not fundamentall avowed as most necessary It hath ground in reason and in Scripture The Creed of the Apostles as it is explained in the later Creeds of the Catholique Church esteemed a sufficient Summary or Catalogue of Fundamentals by the best learned Romanists and by Antiquity The Mistakers exceptions to the contrary answered As also his exceptions against the Confession of the Church of England The Conclusion ANSWERE TO Charity mistaken Charity mistaken Chap. 1. 2. ROmane Catholiques judge that Protestancy vnrepented of destroies saluation For this judgement the Protestants charge them with want of Charitie This charge saith the Mistaker is 1. improbable 2. vntrue 1. Improbable For the Catholique Church expresses and diffuses her Charitie for the temporall and spirituall good of men in all imaginable sorts Shee is charitable to their bodies in her Monasteries Hospitals redeeming of Captiues prouiding for Orphanes c. and to their soules by conuerting of heretiques and infidels by teaching the ignorant by directing the scrupulous with bookes of Cases of Conscience c. Charitable to very Protestants their heresies onely are condemned and it is not said that they sinnâ— against the holy Ghost because they may be conuerted to the faith reconciled to the Church anâ— so may be saued Answere Sect. 1. SOme Romane Catholiques judge charitably of the Reformed Iesuiterâ— furious and destructiue in their censures against all that are not of their faction That faction infamous for their cruelties charged with want of Charitie
to be of his opinion and vrge them as the Romanists doe vs that by their owne confession there were no danger in his way and therefore in wisedome they were to follow it who would not laugh at his ridiculous folly So if they haue no better ground of their beleefe then their Aduersaries charitable judgement of their errours they will be so farre from conuincing their Aduersaries of lacke of wisedome that themselues cannot escape the imputation of folly By all this it is euident that although we confesse the Church of Rome to be in some sence a true Church and her errours to some men not damnable yet for vs who are conuinced in conscience that she erres in many things a necessity lyes vpon vs euen vnder paine of damnation to forsake her in those errours Which is not so much a forsaking of her as a purging of our selues To cleanse some part of the Church from vile abuses is not to goe out of the Church If a Monastery should reforme it selfe and reduce into practise ancient good discipline when others would not in this case could it with reason bee charged with Schisme from others or with Apostacy from its rule and order Or as in a Society of men vniuersally infected with some disease they that should free themselues from the common disease could not be therefore said to separate from the Society So neither can the Reformed Churches especially ours of England be truly accused for making a Schisme from the Church seeing all they did was to reforme themselues yet with resolution to continue in communion as much as in them lay euen with those parts of the Church that would not doe so Indeed if they of Rome could first make it appeare by any sound proofe either that the Church was pure and needed no Reformation or that it is all one to leaue the communion of the Church and to cease communicating with some Churches in their errours or lastly that it is all one to forsake the Church of Rome and to forsake the obedience to that Church as it is now required then the crime of Schisme might with some colour be laid to our charge But all these are groundlesse assumptions talk'd of very freely and commonly but such as neuer will be proued by any one Argument of validity In summe wee can neuer be joyned with Rome in such corruptions as make her Popish But wee were neuer disjoyned from her in those maine essentiall truthes which giue her the name and effence of a Church Whereof if the Mistaker doubt he may be better informed by some late Roman Catholique writers of milder judgement and temper One of t Examen pacifique de la doctrine des Huguenots à Caen. 1590. France who hath purposely in a large Treatise proued as He beleeues the Hugonots Catholiques of that Kingdome to be all of the same Church and Religion because of the truths agreed vpon by both And another of our owne u Syllabus aliquot Synodorum Colloquiorum Doctorum pro pace Ecclesie Aureliae 1628. Countrey as it is said who hath lately published a large Catalogue of learned Authors both Papists and Protestants who are all of the same minde But he is perswaded it seemes that Protestants among themselues are not of the same Church and Religion For he sayes their differences are many and materiall Luther with his followers Schlusselburgius Grawerus Hunnius and their like doe rigorously curse and condemne the Zuinglians Caluinists And some of their harsh censures to this purpose he transcribes out of Brierly who with a curious and I doubt a malicious diligence hath raked vp their intemperate speeches For answer first the Protestants especially we of the Church of England acknowledge not any factious names of Lutherans Zuinglians or Caluinists with which we are injuriously nick-named by our Aduersaries as of old good Orthodox Christians were called a Phot. cod 280. in Excerptis Eulogi◠ad fin libri Cornelians and b Act. Conciliab Ephes in Epist legat Schismat ad suos in Epheso pag. 287. edit Bin. 1618. Cyrillians by the seditious followers of Nouatus and Nestorius With Pacianus wee professe Christian is our name and Catholique our Surname We esteeme of Luther Zuinglius and Caluin as worthy men but we esteeme them not worthy to bee Lords or Authors of our Faith or to lead our vnderstandings captiue Both themselues were farre from affecting such diuine honour and we farre from bestowing it We remember who said of Christ Heare Him not heare them and therefore though these mens reasons may gaine our assent their Testimony is at the best but probable Wee beleeue not what they say but what they proue Much lesse can we endure being once baptized into the name of Christ to be marked with the name of any man as with a note of our seruitude Gregory c Nyssen contr Apollinar 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Nyssen makes a sore complaint of his times The great and venerable name of CHRISTIAN saith he is neglected men profanely diuide themselues into humane appellations And hee laments the miserable ambition of many Sectaries who surname themselues from their grand Seducers His Brother d Basil in Ps 48. S. Basil giues instance in the Marcionites and Valentinians c Optar lib. 3. Optatus in the Donatists So might wee in them that call themselues Franciscanes Dominicanes Thomists Scotists Iesuites c. To all these we say with f Epiphan haer 70. in fin 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Epiphanius The holy Spouse of Christ beares onely her Husbands name And for vs as the same g Idem haer 42. Epiphanius and h Nazianz. orat 31. in fin Nazianzene speake Though we reuerence S. Peter and S. Paul yet we are neither Petrians nor Paulians but Christians Our reason is that which we read in i Lact. lib. 4. cap. 30. Christiani esse desierunt qui Christi nomine omisso humana externa vocabula induerunt Lactantius They are no Christians who seeke after forraine titles And therefore we disclaime the name of Caluinists we owe no seruice we haue no dependance vpon Caluin or any other man as Doctor or Master of our Faith We owe him and the rest of the first Reformers many thankes for their painfull labours which shall remaine of honourable account in all posterity We cannot blesse God sufficiently for such Instruments of his glory Yet we doe not idolize their Persons or adore their dictates and opinions as if they were diuine Oracles as the Romish zelotes doe with their Pope This were not to shake of our old seruitude but to exchange it and for one infallible Pope to set vp many Thankes be to God among the many Idols which we haue cast off this Idoll of humane authority is one which hath robbed God of much glory That Doctor who hath the command of our conscience hath his chaire in heauen We take vp no opinions vpon the credit of
vultis Vides frater Parmeniane sancta germanitatis vincula inter nos vos in totum rumpi non posse loued and pittied and prayed for them Though the peeuish Schismatiques did much abuse this Charitie of good Catholiques towards them For hence they tooke occasion to argue in fauour of their Schisme and Heresie as if their Aduersaries by their owne confession did justifie it and them reasoning thus o Aug. Cont. lit Petil. lib. 2. cap. 108. Petilianus dixit Venite ad Ecclesiam populi aufugite Traditores si perire non vultis Nam vt facilè cognoscatis quòd cùm ipsi sint rei de fide nostrâ optimè judicant Egoillorum infectos baptizo illi meos recipiunt baptizatos Quod omninò non facerent si in Baptismo nostro culpas aliquas agnouissent Videte ergo quod damus quam sit sanctum quòd destruere metuit sacrilegus inimicus Id. contr Crescon Gram. lib. 1. cap. 21. Intentio tua est in parte Donati hominem potius baptizari oportere hanc intentionem hins probare conatus es quòd etiam Nos esse illic Baptismum non negamus Id. ibid. lib. 4. cap. 4. Quaeris a me à quo to baptizari conueniat vtrùm ab eo potius quem ego Baptismum habere confirmo an ab co quem tuus hoc non habere contendit Vide eundem de Bapt. contr Donatist lib. 1. cap. 10. 11. Your selues said they to the Catholiques confesse our Baptisme and Sacraments and Faith for the most part to be good and auaileable We deny yours to be so and say there is no Church no Saluation amongst you Therefore it is safest for all to joyne with vs. Doe not the Romanists at this day in the very same manner abuse the Charity of Protestants And is not this directly that Charme wherewith they worke so powerfully vpon the Spirits of simple people Our answer is the same which S. Austin opposed to the Ancient Donatists in the places cited By the way from that fauourable judgement and opinion which good Catholiques in that age had of the Donatists esteeming them to be their Brethren notwithstanding their Schisme and Heresie these Corollaries may be probably deduced 1. It seemeth that an Hereticall Church where in some Heresy is publiquely maintained by the Guides and Pastors of it is in some kinde the Spouse of Christ and bringeth forth p August â—le Bapt. con Don. l. 1. c. 10. Ecclesia Catholica etiam in communionibus diuersorum ab vnitate separatis per hoc quod suum in cis habet ipsa vtique generat Filios Christo per Baptismum Children to God and Brethren to the Orthodox beleeuers Especially if She baptize her Children in the name of the Trinity as did the Donatists 2. It seemeth that euen in an Hereticall Church Saluation may be had as a child may be borne in a plaguy house and may liue though he hath a running botch on his body In such Churches the very ignorance and simplicity of the Vulgar is a preseruatiue to them against the poyson more hopes of them then of the Learned 3. It seemeth to some q Mr. Hooker lib. 3. §. 1. The Morton of the Church cap. 1. §. 4. cap. 7. §. 10. men of great learning and judgement but herein I had rather leaue the Reader to his judgement then interpose mine owne that all who professe to loue and honour Iesus Christ though it be in much weakenesse and with many errours yet are in the visible Christian Church and by Catholiques to bee reputed Brethren Or to the same purpose wheresoeuer say they a company of men do joyntly and publiquely professe the substance of Christian Religion which is Faith in Iesus Christ the Sonne of God and Sauiour of the world with submission to his doctrine and obedience to his Commandements there is a Church wherein Saluation may bee had notwithstanding any corruption of judgement or practice yea although it be of that nature that it may seeme to fight with the very foundation and so hainous as that in respect thereof the people stained with this corruption are worthy to be abhorred of all men and vnworthy to bee called the Church of God For further illustration and proofe of this opinion these things are said That to beleeue in Iesus Christ the Sonne of God and Sauiour of the world with submission to him is sufficient to constitute a Church wherein Saluation may bee had is warranted as they thinke 1. By Scriptures a 1 Ioh. 4. 15. Whosoeuer shall confesse that Iesus is the Sonne of God dwelleth in him and he in God Againe b ibid. v. 2. Vide in h. loc Tirinum Euery Spirit that confesseth that Iesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God The like passages are c 1 Ioh. 5. 1. 5. elsewhere S. Peters Faith was the same d Matt. 16. 16 17. with this and the Faith of e Ioh. 11. 27. Martha and of the f Act. 8. 37. Eunuch And the Faith of all these is approued in Scripture 2. Heretiques themselues must bee acknowledged though a maimed part yet a part of the visible Church g Hooker vbi supr Magaltanus idem probat contra Bellar. in Tit. 3. vers 11. Ann. 2. For if an Infidell should pursue to death an Heretique professing Christianitie onely for Christian prosessions sake could we deny vnto him the honour of Martyrdome Yet this honour all men know to be proper vnto the Church Heretiques therefore are not vtterly cut off from the visible Church of Christ If the Fathers doe any where as oftentimes they doe make the true visible Church of Christ and Hereticall Companies opposite they are to be construed as separating Heretiques not altogether from the Companie of Beleeuers but from the fellowship of sound Beleeuers For where profest vnbeleefe is there there can be no visible Church of Christ there may be where sound beleefe wanteth Infidels being cleane without the Church denie directly and vtterly reject the very Principles of Christianity which Heretiques embrace and erre onely by misconstruction Whereupon their opinions although repugnant indeed to the Principles of Christian Faith are notwithstanding held otherwise and maintained as most consonanâ— thereunto To which purpose the words of h Salu. de Gubern l. 5. Eis traditio Magistrorum suorum doctrina inueterata quasi Lex est qui hoc sciunt quod docentur Haeretici ergo sunt sed non scientes Denique apud nos sint Haeretici apud se non sunt Nam in tantùm se Catholicos judicant vt nos ipsos titulo Haereticae appellationis infament Quod ergo illi nobis sunt hoc nos illis Nos eos injuriam diuinae generationi facere certi sumus quod minorem Patre â—lium dicunt Illi nos injuriosos Patri existimant quia aequales 〈◊〉 credamus Veritas apud nos est sed illi apud se esse
the Church the promises of Christ assure us But that to necessarie truths she shall adde no unnecessarie opinions for that we have no warrant either from the Scripture or any promise of God And were it otherwise the Doctors above mentioned had betrayed the Churches cause in stead of maintaining it For if in all her doctrines and definitions she be infallible why should they restraine her infallibilitie in defining unto matters necessary They should have profess'd her roundly and plainly infallible in all her determinations For to limit her infallibility in defining onely to things necessary and then to say that all defin'd by her is eo ipso necessarie because defin'd is to delude the world and seemingly to yeild something when nothing is yeilded The Romane cause at this day as it appeares by the vulgar Writers of the Popes quarter and among others by our Mistaker wholly depends on this pretended absolute infallibility All Controversies in the issue are reduced to this and decided by it And with great reason if there were any reason in it or for it For if Rome cannot erre or be deceived then without doubt all they erre and are deceived who dissent from her And therefore me thinkes learned men of that partie might do very well to ease themselves and the world of much trouble and paines in the scanning of other questions if with all their strength and witt they can but settle on the Pope or his adherents such an infallibility by any one convicting argument this will instantly and evidently conclude all our other differences No wise man will any way contradict them who cannot any way erre But surely this doctrine that the Church is infallible in all her definitions is so far from being certaine and divine that it is at the best but doubtfull and problematicall and that even by and from their owne principles The Roman Drs deliver us these Maximes concerning the Churches authority 1. r Staplet lib. 9. Princip doctr passim contr Whitak That the truth of Scripture it selfe and of all contained in it relyes in respect of us upon the testimony of the Church so as nothing is credible to us but by the Churches attestation 2. s Valent. Tom. 3. disp 1. qu. 1. pun 1. §. 6. col 29. That the proposition of the Church is so necessary to the act of divine faith that nothing can be beleeved without it 3. That t Bellarm. lib. 4. de Pont. R. cap. 14. §. Respondeo Inprimis untill a doctrine be declared or defined by the Church so long it may be either doubted of or denyed without danger These propositions are their owne Hence wee assume But this doctrine that the Church is infallible in all her decrees and definitions was never yet declared decreed or defined by the Church no not by any Councell or by any Pope And hence we inferre Therefore it is a doctrine which may be doubted of or denyed without danger a doctrine which no man can beleeue by divine faith a doctrine whatsoever it be in it selfe to Christians not credible If any man will deny the assumption he will oblige himselfe to disproue it by a contrary instance Let it be shewed where and when and in what termes the Church hath published any such declaration And suppose which will not be granted that such a declaration had beene made it may be demanded with reason upon what warrant the Church can assume to her selfe a power so divine and boundlesse as to authorize all her decrees in so high a forme that they must be accounted divine and infallible If the promise of God in Scripture be pleaded for this power we haue already shewed how the learned among themselues haue voyded this plea and so restrained those promises that they are by much too narrow to support so wide a priviledge If it bee said that this authority of the Church is a principle admitted by all Christians without any doubt or proofe this is a saying voluntary and and groundlesse For 1. they will confesse every principle in Religion to be founded either in nature or in Scripture or in tradition or in Church definition and in none of these will they find any footing for this 2. All Christians in the world confesse the authority of Scripture to be a principle indemonstrable yet are we by them perpetually urged to proue that authority and that by Scripture 3. Dr u Princ. Doctrin l. ◠c. 21. Stapleton thinkes it not onely fitting but necessary in respect of us that the Church should give testimony to her self especially thē in this point of so great importance consequence cōcerning her infallible authority wherein all Religiō is so much concerned 4. Lastly it is a great errour and vanitie to beleeue that this absolute infallibility of the Church is beleeved by all Christians especially in the sence of our Adversaries who ever by the Church intend that unsound piece which they call the Roman Catholique The Protestants and Greekes expresly accuse this Church and haue convicted her too as they thinke of many grosse and dangerous errors The w See Mr. Brierwoods Enquiries Armenians Syrians Indians Iacobites Maronites Abassines with other innumerable assemblies of Christians haue many doctrines and customes directly repugnant to those of Rome which were an unreasonable presumption and absurditie if they esteemed the Church of Rome so wholly infallible Nay within the Roman Church it selfe many Authors of great learning and judgement by name x Horum omnium testimonia legere est apud Rob. Baronium de objecto fidei Tract 5. cap. 19. Occam Cameracensis Waldensis Panormitanus Antoninus Archbishop of Florence Cardinal Cusan Nicholas Clemangis haue declared their opinion that any particular Churches and particularly the Roman any Councels though Generall any Popes may erre even to heresie and I doubt not but the best learned Romanists at this day are of the same opinion Before wee proceed it will not be from our purpose to note one thing more in passing The Church of Rome pretends that it is an office belonging onely to Her to deliver the entire rule of faith to all Christian people And she pretends further that this divine and infalliable rule is made up of three integrall parts to wit Scriptures Traditions and Church definitions If this be true she doth but loosely discharge her office very ill satisfie the obligation which she hath unto the Christian world For 1. Why hath she not yet defined that her definitions are of divine authority The late Fathers of Trent haue canonized unwritten traditions and equall'd them to Scriptures but why did they omit to canonize the decrees of all Popes Councells Why did they not adde to Traditions their Church definitions and command them both and them all to be received with no lesse devotion then the holy Scriptures 2. The same Fathers have given us an exact catalogue of all the bookes of Scripture but why did they not give
And if the Canons of Councells be divinely inspired then they must be admitted into the Code of holy Scriptures as of equall authoritie with them which though h Vide Can. loco lib. 5. c. 5. qu. 3. some grosser Papists admit yet the i Bell. de Concil lib. 2. c. 12. wisest dislike and deny Upon these or the like grounds Bellarmin leaves his companion Stapleton to walke alone in this dangerous path and avowes to the contrarie k Ibid. §. Dicuntur igitur that Councells neither have nor write immediate revelations Yet may some decrees of Councells in regard of their matter and consonancy to Scripture be of divine and infallible truth as those of the first Councells against Arrius Macedonius and the rest If in other things of lesser moment or in any thing they erre or mistake the Universall Church hath meanes of remedie either by antiquating those errors with a generall and tacite consent or by representing her selfe againe in an other Generall Councell which may review and correct the defects of the former as the great Councell of Chalcedon did with the second of Ephesus So sayes l De Baptis contr Donat. lib. 2. cap. 3. S. Augustine Provinciall Councells may be corrected by plenarie and plenarie Councells the former by the latter But still all examined by Scripture and submitted to it as the same Father m Aug. ad Donat post Collat. ca. 15. Item l. 3. contr Maxim de unit Eccl. cap. 18. 19. constantly teaches But if our Mistaker will be ingenuous and speake out he will confesse that he meanes by his infallible Church onely the Church virtuall that is onely the Pope In whom alone all the vertue and power of the Church is eminently conteined by whom all Councells must be judged and all Controversies determined on whom the whole frame of the Romane Catholique faith depends and into whom it is lastly resolved For this is the new Catholique doctrine of his new Masters especially of the Fathers of hiâ— society who teach with great consent that n Bell. lib. 4. de Rom. P. c. 3. §. Secundò probatur Quilibet Successor Petri est petra fundamentum Ecclesiae every Successor of S. Peter is thâ— rocke and foundation of the Church thaâ— o Skulkenius Apol. pro Bell. cap. 6 pag. 255. Pontificia potestas est velut cardo fundamentum ut uno verbo omnia complectar summa fidei Christianae Vide Bell. Praef. in lib. de R. P. the Popes authority is the hinge foundation and in briefe the summe of Christian faith that p Gretser Defens cap. 10. lib. 3. 〈◊〉 verb. Dei pag. 1450 1451. per Ecclesiam intelligimus Pont. Romanuâ— Et per Ecclesiam Papam interpretantur Non abnuo Franc. Albeâ—â— Corollar Theolog. Tom 1. Corol. 4. punc 7. num 35. 36. Dico primo quòd praeter veritatem primam revelantem est in universo aliquâ— regula infallibilis animata rationalis qualis est Ecclesia Quò◠autem haec regula animata rationalis sit summus Pont. Romanus nâ—â— est hîc locus proprius probandi sed inter recentiores videndus Valent. 22. q. 1. Card. Bell. Medina-Dico secundo stante hâc regulâ rationâ—â—â— infallibili omnes Articuli fidei ultimatè resolvuntur in ipsam tanquâ—â— in rationem formalem quâ in proponendo by the Church is understood the Pope in q Greg. de Valentiâ— Anal. fid lib. 8. cap. 7. §. Porrò Authoritas quae in uno Pontifice reâ—det authoritas dicitur Ecclesiae Conciliorum whom alone resides all the authority of the Church and oâ— Councells that r Bell. l. 4 de Roâ— P. cap. 3. §. At contra Apparet totam firmitatem Conciliorum esseâ— Pontifice non partim à Pontifice partim à Concilio vide Long. à Coriâ— in Sum. Concil praelud 6. the strength of all Councells depends upon him alone that s Gretser defens cap. 1. lib. 1. de verâ— Dei p. 16. Id solum pro verbo Dei veneramur ac suscipimus quod noâ—â—â— Pontifex ex Cathedra Petri tanquam supremus Christianorum Magâ—ster ac omnium Controversiarum Judex definiendo proponit he iâ— the supreme Master of Christians and judge of all Controversies and whatsoever â—e propounds out of his chaire and that â—nely must be received as the word of God that his judgment is so absolutely infalâ—ible t Valent. Anal. fid lib. 8. cap. 3. ad 6. object sive Pontifex in definiendo studium adhibeat sive non adhibeat modò tamen controversiam definiat infallibiliter certè definiet that whether he be carefull or negligent in his definitions it matters not let him but define and without doubt he defines infallibly that u Jesuitae in Regulis Patavii inter schedas relictis An. 1606. quum illinc ob interdictum discederent reg 13. Apud Paulum Soarpium Theologum Venerum in Histor Interd lib. 2. if he who is the Hierâ—rchicall Church define that to be white which the eye judges to be blacke it must be so admitted that w Bell. de R. P. lib. 4. cap. 5. §. Quod autem Si Papa erraret precipiendo vitia vel prohibédo virtutes teneretur Ecclesia credere vitia esse bona virtutes malas nisi vellet contra conscientiam peccare if he should erre and command the practise of vice or forbid the exercise of vertue the Church were bound in conscience to beleive vices to be good and vertues to be bad This is plaine dealing Scriptures are obscure unlesse the Pope interpret them All Fathers and Councells may erre unlesse the Pope confirme them The Church without him is a bodie without an head an house without a foundation Controversies cannot be decided but onely by his definition and in that there can be no error nor any appeale from it But this being so these men deale not plainly with us when they pretend often in their dispuâ—ations against us Scriptures and Fathers and Councells and the Church since in the issue their finall and infallible argument for their faith is onely the Popes authority But infallibly there is nothing in Scripture which favours this infallibility unlesse the Pope may be admitted to expound it which he will do infallibly for his owne advantage And as little in reason or in Antiquity The Ancient Church was very carefull to conserve the puritie of the faith against heresies Some x Tertullian Vinc Lirin Fathers have written purposely of the plea's or prescriptions which the Church hath against them and how Catholique doctrine may be discerned and maintained to wit by authority of Scripture and tradition of the Catholique Church If they had beleived the Bishop of Rome to be the infallible Judge surely without more a doe they had appealed all Heretiques to his Tribunall And what needed the Christian Emperours anciently and sometime at the request of the Bishops of Rome themselves to
to erect her own absolute soveraignty over the consciences and faith of Christian people Whatsoever these Masterly Doctors shall define or prescribe in matters of faith that they say must be received without c Greg. de Valentia Anal. fid lib. 8. cap. 6. §. Quòd verò Sine contradictione ulla obedire iussi homines sunt Sacerctoti judicanti-Quod ipsum persuadere nobis de summo Ecclesiae Pastore nunc jubemur contradiction yea without d Bellarm. de verbi Dei interpret lib. 3. c. 10. §. SeptimuÌ„ arg Christiani tenentur doctrinam Ecclesiae recipere non dubitare an hâ—c ita se habeant Et ib. §. Addo Debet Christianus sine examine recipere doctrinam Eccles Et ib. ad arg 16. Doctor non proponit sententiam suam ut necessariò sequendam sed solùm quatenus ratio suadet at Judex proponit ut sequendam necessariò Patres sunt Doctores Concilia verò Pontifices sunt Judices examination yea though it be e Tannerus in Colloq Ratisbon Sess 9. Si Praepositi Eccles in aliquo dubio definiendo errarent populus Christianus vi talis regiminis errare posset imò deberet false and erroneous This indeed is a sure meanes to keep the Court of Rome in quiet possession of her tyranny and errors if men may be persuaded to resigne unto her their judgement and reason and yeeld her a blind and brutish obedience in all things The colour is that in all doctrines she is assisted with an infallible Spirit and therefore being all divine truths and inspirations they may not be inquired into The ordinarie pretence of Deceivers of f Dictum Apellis apud Euseb Hist Eccleslib 5. cap. 13. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Apelles the old heretick in Eusebius of Mahomet the great impostor and of some Others besides the Romanists in this age But as a learned man hath well observed g Ludov. Vives de verit fidei Christ li. 4. pag. 478. contra errores Mahumetis Tutissimum mentiendi genus est nolle rationem eorum quae dicas reddere veritatem dictorum ad Deum referre authorem quem nemo de veritate possit interrogare The safest way of lying is for men to entitle God to their owne dreames and for all reason to say they are heavenly verities which may not be examined It is very meet that the ignorant people should obey h Heb. 13. 17 their overseers in the Lord and submit themselves to the Ministry and direction of the Church in many profound doctrines above their reach But it behoves them to have a distinct comfortable knowledge of the essentiall points of faith and not securely to rest in a babish simplicity but so far as God hath enabled them to i Heb. 6. 1. be led on to profection To which purpose they are commanded to k Joh. 5. 39 search the Scriptures that they may l 2 Pet. 3. 18. grow and m Col. 1. 10. encrease in knowledge that the n Col. 3. 16. word of Christ may dwell richly in them and that they may be able both to beleive o Rom. 10. 10. with the heart and confesse with their mouth and render p 1. Pet. 3. 15. a reason of that hope that is in them The words of q Lactantius lib. 2. cap. 8. Oportet in ea re maximè in qua vitae ratio versatur sibi quemque confidere suóque judicio ac proptiis sensibus niti ad investigandam perpendendam veritatem quà m credentem alienis erroribus decipi tanquaÌ„ ipsum rationis expertem Quare cùm sapere id est veritatem quaerere omnibus sit innatú sanientiamsibi adimunt qui sine ullo judicio inventa majorum probant ab aliis pecudum more ducuntur Lactantius to this purpose are observable In those things which concerne our welfare and life especially that of our soules it is fit for every man to make use of his owne discretion in the search and triall of truth rather then without reason to relie upon the credit of others that may abuse him Every man by nature desires to be wise and to know the truth And therefore they befoole themselues who without judgement follow the judgement of their leaders which is the propertie of sheepe rather then of reasonable men And by that of n Theodoret Graec. Affect Curat Serm. 5. sub fin 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Theodoret we learne what kind of knowledge the ancient Church required in Christians Every where saith he you may see the points of our faith to be knowen not onely by them who are Masters in the Church and Teachers of the people but even of Coblers Smiths and Weavers and all kind of Artificers and of women also which get their living with their hands yea Maid-servants and Waiting-women Husband-men also do very well know them and Ditchers and Neate-herds and Woodsetters All these may ye find discoursing of the Trinitie and the creation of things and as skilfull in the nature of man as Plato or Aristotle Charity mistaken Chap. 8. 9. THe Protestants pretend to be at unitie with the Ancient Church with the Lutherans and even with Roman Catholiques in fundamentall points That distinction so ordinary with them betweene fundamentall points and not fundamentall is vaine without ground No Protestant Writez none of their Vniversities Colledges or Societies of learned men amongst them can or dare define what doctrines are fundamentall or give us in a List or Catalogue of fundamentalls Some say they are coÌ„tained in the Creed But these men may be â—shamed of that opinioÌ„ seeing in the Creed there is no mention of the Canon of Scripture or of the number or nature of the Sacraments of justification whether it be by faith alone or by workes or of that doctrine of devills forbidding marriage meats which was the doctrine of the Manichees and not of Roman Catholiques as Protestants perversly affirme and finally since there is such great differences betweene them and us about the understanding of the Articles of Christs Descent into Hell of the holy Catholique Church and the Communion of Saints Others say the Booke of the 39 Articles of the Church of England declares all the fundamentall points of faith But that also is most absurdly affirmed That Booke declares onely and that in an extreamly confused manner what the Church of England beleeves in most things And in many Controversies betweene them and us it speakes obscurely not touching the maine difficultie of the questions As in the points of the visibility and infallibility of the Church of Freewill of the Canon of Scripture Answer Sect. 7. THe distinction betweene doctrines fundamentall and not fundamentall avowed as most necessary It hath ground in reason and in Scripture The Creed of the Apostles as it is explained in the latter Creeds of the Catholique Church esteemed a sufficient Summarie or Catalogue of fundamentalls by
Catholiques in France beleeue it not where the f Voiez â—e Mercure Iesuite 1. part Vniversitie of Paris in the name of all the others in that kingdome hath not long since challenged aboue 30 Iesuites to haue published execrable doctrines touching the killing of Kings and absoluing subjects from their allegiance tending to the ruine of mankind and confusion of all gouernment and many of their bookes of this argument by publique arrest of the Parliament of Paris haue beene condemned to the fire And for this reason the whole g Hist Interd lib. 3. Senate of Venice not one man of that great Body dissenting did by decree chase these men out of their Dominions into perpetuall banishment because the Iesuites haue beene the Authors and Instruments of all tumults seditions confusions and miseries hapning in these times in all Kingdomes and States of the world And for vs Protestants the innumerable massacres of our Brethren in France the Netherlands and elsewhere the barbarous treasons plotted against our late Soveraignes and this state of England are demonstrations sufficient of their burning Charity towards vs. But all their other cruelties are but milde in comparison of this doctrine which pursues our soules after death into the neathermost pit Yet the Mistaker thinkes this may bee affirmed with Charitie For it is improbable the Catholique Church should want Charity Most true not improbable only but meerely impossible the Catholique Church should bee without Charity Far be it from vs to lay this vnjust and vnworthy charge vpon our deere Mother the Catholique Church Charity is the ligament which connects both that whole mysticall Body vnto Christ her glorious Head and each seuerall member one to another The good spirit of truth and loue ever assists and animates that great Body This Mother of all Christians we honour as her dutifull Children and are well assured of her blessing We accuse not Her for want of Charity shee giues no cause but that proud and curst Dame of Rome who takes vpon her to revell in the House of God to let in and cast out at her pleasure pretending that shee alone is the Mother and Mistris in that House vsurping and confining all the priviledges of the Catholique Church to her selfe alone A pretension void of colour and against the principles of reason which forbids to confound a part with the â—hole Though shee haue many waies â—aid the Harlot and in that regard deâ—erved a bill of divorce from Christ â—he detestation of Christians yet for â—hose Catholique verities which she reâ—aines wee yeeld her a member of the Catholique though one of the most vnsound and corrupt members In this sense the Romanists may bee called Catholiques But that the Roman Church â—nd the Catholique are all one is a very vaine and absurd imagination vnknowne h That the Roman Church was anciently esteemed a Topicall or particular Church distinct from others and in and vnder the Vniversall may appeare by Ignatius in tit epist ad Rom. Eccles 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Ambros. Epist 83. ad med Post Aegyptorum supputationes Alexandrinae Ecclesiae definitionem Episcopi quoque Romanae Ecclesiae meam adhuc expectant sententiam quid existimem de die Paschae Innoc. ad Victricium Epis Rothomag â—initio Quia Romanae Ecclesiae normam magnoperè postulâsti advertant Ecclesiarum regionis vestrae populi qualis servetur in vrbis Romae Ecclesijs disciplina Caelestinus Episc Rom. Epist ad Ioan. Antioc ap Binn in Concil Ephes Gr. lat par 1. § 20 pag. 143. Asserat se Nestorius fidem tenere quam secundum Apostolicam doctrinam Romana Alexandrina Catholica Vniversalis Ecclesia tenet Nicolaus PP 1. Epist 8. ad Michael August ad fin Imperatores Nero Diocletiaâ—us persequuti sunt Ecclesiam Dei maximè Ecclesiam Romanam Idem Epist 70 ad Hincmarum caeteros Galliae Episcopos Conantur Graeci tam nostram specialiter Romanam quam omnem quae linguâ latinâ vtitur Ecclesiam reprehendere quòd jejunamus in Sabbatis c. Et paulo post Opprobria haec vniversali Ecclesiae in eâ duntaxat parte quae latinâ vti dignoscitur linguâ ingeruntur Innocent 3. lib. 2. Epist 200. ad Ioan. Patriarch Constantinopol Dicitur Vniversalis Ecclesia quae de vniversis constat Ecclesiis quae Graeco vocabulo Catholica nominatur Ecclesia Romana sic non est Vniversalis Ecclesâ—â—â— sed parâ— Vniversalis Ecclesiae to Antiquity still loosly miserably begged by the Mistaker his fellowes without offer of proofe Catholique-Roman is in true interpretation vniversallparticular which are tearmes repugnant that cannot be equalled The latter restraines cuts off from the former and therefore to conclude the Catholique Church within that of Rome is to alter the name and nature of it hee that will be only a Roman must cease to be a Catholique It is not then the Catholique Church that we charge or that charges vs but the Roman And therefore all the discourse of our Mistaker touching the great charities of the Catholique Church to her children is very roving and impertinent winde and words without substance All confesse that she diffuses her selfe in all acts of charity after all imaginable sorts So doe her severall members the particular Churches They of the Reformation and especially this of England as amply and bountifully as any in the World and much more effectually and to better purpose then that of Rome It hath beene publikely avowed by some and cannot bee deni'd by a modest Adversary that hardâ—y any age in former times may compare with this of ours since this Church was happily purged from Popery for publique expressions of charity In so few yeares hardly ever so many Churches or Chappell 's built and beautified for Gods service so many Colledges Schooles Libraries Hospitals erected and endowed for the honour of learning and reliefe of the necessitous And for the other part of charity which is spirituall regarding the worship of God and the conduct of soules to their eternall happinesse never did any Church afford more plentifully the meanes of grace nor more abound with all helpes and advantages of piety then this of ours The word of God is diligently preached amongst vs the Sacraments of Christ reverently administred abuses in both are remoued the two extreames of Religion Superstition and Prophanenesse are avoided The ignorant are instructed the disorderly admonished comforts are applied to the afflicted terrours to the impenitent censures and punishments to the obstinate In our Leiturgy policy ceremonies in the government of our Prelates in the dilâ—gence of inferiour Pastors in the whoâ—â— face of our doctrine and discipline weâ— haue a most neere and faire resemblanâ—â— of reverend Antiquity all tending to thâ— gaining of soules to Christ and to guidâ— them in the way of peace In the Church of Rome appeares buâ— little of this true Charity even toward her owne Children Indeed shee bringâ— forth children vnto
but a man before distempered after sound and healthy In the prime grounds or principles of Christian Religion wee haue not forsaken the Church of Rome wee leaue her onely in her intolerable errors and abuses Shee hath mingled with Gods Bread her owne sowre leauen and with good milke some drammes of poison We haue cast out onely this poison and leauen and feed Gods people with the true bread of life and the sincere milk of his word Where the late Popes wander in by-paths we leaue them that wee may more safely walke with the old good Bishops of Rome in the old and good way And in the issue that which distinguishes a true Papist from a true Protestant is no more but this the former will needs be a Romane the latter only a Catholique The difference at this day betweene the Reformed part of the Westerne Church and the Romane consists in certaine points which they of Rome hold for important and necessary articles of the Christian faith which the Protestants cannot beleeue or receiue for such Whereas contrarily the things which the Protestants beleeue on their part and wherein they b Voiez Vray vsage des Peres par Iean Daillé Ch. 1. iudge the life and substance of Religion to be comprized are most if not all of them so evidently and indisputably true that their Adversaries themselues doe avow and receiue them as well as they For they are verities cleerely founded vpon Scripture expressely acknowledged by all Ancient Councells and Doctors of the Catholique Church summarily deliuered in their Symboles or Creeds vnanimously receaued by the most part of Christians that haue ever beene in the world Such are the verities which make vp the faith of Protestants and which are c Semper vbique ab omnibus credita Lirin properly Catholique hauing carried the consent of all ages and Parts of the Church vniversall And if all other Christians could be content to keepe within these generall bounds d Erasm Epist ded ad Arch. Warhamum Praefat. 2. Tomo Epift. S. Hieron speaking of the Apostles Creed faith Nunquam suit sincer or castiorque Christiana fides quà m cùm vnoillo eoque breuissiino Symbolo contentus esset Orbis Vide eundem in Praefat. ad Hilar. in Paracles ad Lector ante Edit N. T. an 1519. Bafil the wofull Schismes and ruptures of Christendome worthy to be lamented with teares of bloud might the more easily bee healed and all the Disciples of the Prince of peace blessedly vnited in an holy linke of Faith and Charity of Loue and Communion The piety and wisdome of Antiquity did thinke fittest to walke in this latitude and cleerely rested satisfied with the simplicity of such a Catholique confession But no bounds of reason could ever limit the vnbounded extravagancies and excesses of the Court of Rome That body of faith which the Ancients thought complete enough to them seemes defectiue Therefore they haue adjoyned to that old Body many new Articles And to those twelue which the Apostles in their Creed esteemed a sufficient summary of wholsome doctrine they haue added many more in their new Romane Creed Such are for instance their Apocryphall Scriptures and vnwritten dogmaticall Traditions their Transubstantiation and dry Communion their Purgatory Invocation of Saints Worship of Images Latine Service traffique of Indulgences and shortly all the other new Doctrines and Decrees canonized in their late Synod of Trent These and the like very vaine imaginations our Mistaker calls the prime and maine points of Christian Religion Let him but change Christian Religion as his faction hath done into the Romane faith and he saies true hee is not mistaken Vpon these and the like new Articles is all the contestation betweene the Romanists and Protestants while they are obtruded on the one side as vndoubted verities and on the other side reiected as humane inventions cunningly devised to advance ambition and avarice without any solid ground or countenance of Scripture Reason or Antiquitie The most necessary and fundamentall truths which constitute a Church are on both sides vnquestioned and for that reason e Iunius lib. de Eccl. cap. 17. Falluntur qui Ecclesiam negant quia Papatus in eâ est D. Rain Thes 5. negat tantùm esse Catholicam vel sanum ejus membrum See the iudgment of many other of our writers in the Advertisement annexed to the Old Religion by the Reverend Bishop of Exeter The very Anabaptists grant it Fr. Johnson in his Christian plea pag. 123. learned Protestants yeeld them the name and substance of a Christian Church though extreamely f August de Donatistis Nonideo se putent sanos quia dicimus eos habere aliquid sanum De Bapt. contra Donat. lib. 1. cap. 8. defiled with horrible errors and corruptions And if they had fairely propounded their new opinions to bee discussed by the learned with reservation of liberty in iudgement conscience to themselues and others they had erred much more tolerably and much lesse disturbed the peace of the Church But they are farre from this modesty and moderation With vnsufferable tyranny the prevailing faction amongst them presses them vpon all Christians as matters of faith not only of opinion not as disputable problemes but as necessary truths hauing both canonized them in their Councell of Trent with a curse against all gaine-sayers and put them in their Creed by Pope Pius the fourth who hath obliged the whole Clergy of Rome to affirme that Creed by their subscription and solemne oath obliging also all Christians to beleeue it vnder paine of damnation In the latter ages before the Reformation though the Court of Rome by cunning and violence had subdued many noble parts of Christendome vnder her yoake yet the servitude of the Church and her misery was somewhat more supportable because these base and pernicious adjections were not yet the publique decisions or tenets of any Church but only the private conceits of the domineering faction Yet still the best learned and g Notissimae sunt querelae Bernardi Occhami Marsilis Clemangis Alvari Gersonis c. de corrupto Ecclesiae statu vide Espenc in Tit. 1. Digress â— conscientious of Europe called as loud as they could or durst for a Reformation Rome heard their complaints and h Adrian 6. PP Instruct pro Franc Cheregato in Fascic ror exper pag. 173. Sciâ—nus in hac sanctá sede aliquot jam annis multa abominanda fuisse abusus in spiritualibus excessus in mandatis omnia denique in perversum mutata Nec miâ—um si aegritudo à capite in membra à summis Pontificibus in alios iuferiores Praelatos descenderit Omnes nos id est Praelati Ecclesiastici declinavimus vnusquisque in vias suns nec fuit iam diu qui faceret-bonum non fuit vsque ad vnum Subiecimus colla summae dignitati ad deformatam eius sponsam Ecclesiam Catholicam reformandam c. Staplet Relect. Contr. 1. q. 5.
à populi aliqua mentio Canones omnes pressi silentio decreta Pontificum suffocata proscriptae antiquae traditiones veterésque in eligendo summo Pontifice consuetudines sacrique ritus ac pristini usus prorsus extincti Genebrard Chronol ad an 901. Per annos ferè centum quinquaginta à Johanne scilicet 8. ad Leonem 9. usque Pontifices circiter quinquaginta à virtute majorum prorsus defecerunt Apotactici Apostaticivè potiùs quà m Apostolici quando non per ostium sed per posticum ingrediebantur Historians that very many Popes have beene simonically advanced to the chaire And who can be infallibly assured that Leo 10th or Paul 5th or Vrban 8th or any Pope whosoever hath beene fairely and freely elected without any corruption of rewards or promises A Roman Catholique may wish or hope well that his Holines hath entred Canonically though if the i Mant. lib. 3. de Calam. Tem. Romae Templa Sacerdotes altaria sacra coronae Ignis thura Preces Coelum est venale Deúsque Monke Mantuan said true his hope must needs be mixed with very much feare but he cannot be k Puteanus in 2. 2. qu. 1. A. 6. Dub. ult Papam existētem verbi gratià Paulum 5. esse verum vicarium Christi successorem Petri non est absolutè de fide Catholica 1. Quia supponit haec duas istas alias propositiones Paulus 5. est baptizatus Paulus 5. est canonicè electus in Ro. Pontificem at neutra ex istis duabus est de fide Catholica absolutè sure And if he be not sure that any of them is Pope he is not sure of his infallibilitie But besides all this it is a thing most certaine that no Roman Catholique in the world can be certaine of any Pope that he is either a Bishop or a Priest or even a Christian For this is one point of their Catholique doctrine l Decret Eugenii post Concil Florent that the force and vertue of all Sacraments depends on the intention of all the Minister who if he have not an intention to doe as the Church doth all he doth is nothing he confers no Sacrament And accordingly m Andr Veg. lib. 9. de Iustific cap. 17. Nemini potest per fidem constare se recepisse vel minimum Sacramentum Estque hoc ita certum ex fide ac clarum est nos vivere Nulla siquidem est via quâ citra revelationem nôsse possumus intentionem ministrantis vel evidenter vel certò ex fide Bellarm. lib. 3. de Iustif cap. 8. §. Dicent Non potest quis esse certus certitudine fidei se percipere verum Sacramentum cùm Sacramentum sine intentione Ministri non conficiatur intentionem alterius nemo videre potest they grant that no man can possibly know otherwise then by bare conjecture whether himselfe or any other have received either Baptisme or Orders or any Sacrament being impossible for him to know the intention of the Minister None is capable of holy orders unlesse he be baptized Pope Vrban 8. then cannot be either Bishop or Priest unlesse he were made a true member of the Church by true baptisme And he was not truly baptized or ordained if the Bishop ordaining him or the Priest baptizing him or any other who formerly baptized or ordained them failed in their intention And whether they did so faile neither Vrban himselfe nor any man else can be assured no not by an humane certainty much lesse by a divine faith How then is our Mistaker sure that his Pope is the infallible Head of the Church when he cannot be sure that he is a member of it Lastly admit the Pope infallible in his definitions yet how can any Papist in Europe excepting onely those few that stand by and heare his Holines when he gives out his Oracles be infallibly sure what it is which he hath defined Their assurance hereof is onely so much faith as they can give to the reports of their Priests and Jesuites which at the best can produce in them but a strong opinion unlesse they can beleeve their Priests and Jesuites also to be infallible in their relations It much concernes our Mistaker and all Roman Catholiques to consider how feeble and wavering that faith must be which is concluded from these slippery principles Every lawfull Bishop of Rome is infallible but Vrban the 8th is lawfull Bishop of Rome therfore he is infallible And then againe Whatsoever Vrban the 8th defines is infallibly true but this or that Vrban hath defined therfore it is infallibly true In these Syllogisines imagine the Propositions to be certain true as they are most certainly false yet the assumptions to a very Roman Catholique at the most can be but probable he cannot be certaine of either Not certaine that Vrban was lawfully ordained and elected into the chaire nor certaine that out of his chaire he hath published this or that definition An opinion or a conjecture of these things he may haue but he cannot haue certainty and much lesse divine faith Wherefore since the conclusion cannot be stronger then the weaker of the Premisses his faith is not divine nor certaine but onely a conjecture or an opinion Unlesse happily he can comfort himselfe with that witty invention of Cardinall n Bell. l. 1. de Purg. cap. 4. §. Respondeo non Bellarmine who thinkes a firme conclusion may follow out of feeble premisses by the rules of prudence though not by the rules of Logicke We may now conclude this point and returne our Mistakers words upon himselfe If his faith be grounded on so fallible a motive as the Popes infallibilitie it is cleare that he hath no true divine or supernaturall faith at all but onely opinion or persuasion or humane beleife Charity mistaken Chap. 7. PRotestants object that Roman Catholiques are not at unitie among themselves as appeares by many question◠wherein their Writers are at variance Answer Catholique Doctors differ onely in matters of opinion not decided by the Church not in any points of faith And besides their differences are all fairely carried without any breach of charity If it be againe objected that learned Catholiques beleeve more then the unlearned Answ This hinders not their unitie It suffices the vulgar to beleeve implicitely what the Church teaches And by vertue of such implicite faith a Cardinal Bellarmin and a Catholique Collier are of the same beleefe Answer Sect. 6. DIssentions in the Church of Rome of greater importance then any among the Reformed They differ not onely in opinion but in matters of their faith As about the Popes authority and the Popes themselves about their vulgar Latine Bibles Discords among them uncharitably pursued Some patterns of their mutuall bitternesse and revilings Implicite faith in some points and in some men admitted What it is which we here dislike in the doctrine of some Romanists THe Mistaker hath formerly upbraided us with our discords
in Religion Now he pretends there is great Unitie in doctrine among his Roman Catholiques With little reason and with as little ingenuitie For certainly if in this point we be not innocent they are much more guilty The truth is that old complaint of Optatus fits our times better then his a Lib. 5. Omnes contentiosi homines sumus there is but too much quarrelling on all sides which exposes our holy faith to the scorne of Infidells and ill beseemes them that pretend as we doe all to serve and follow the Prince of peace But sure the Romanists are not in case to fasten this reproach on us since it will reflect more strongly on themselues who have many more and more weighty Controversies among their owne Doctors then those of ours For our dissensions I have already said enough if not to justifie yet to excuse them To which I now adde by way of just recrimination that they are both for their number and in their nature of farre lesse importance then the dissensions in his Romane Church But our Mistaker answers in the behalfe of his jarring Doctors two things 1. that they differ onely in some schoole-questions of opinion not in matters of faith 2. that they dissent in iudgement onely without breach of charitie But in both the parts of this answer I shall briefly let him see that he is Mistaken His first plea is a very true and reasonable Apologie for our Reformed Churches but not so for his Romane Our controversies are none of them in the substance of faith but onely in disputable opinions not cleerly defined in Scripture wherein learned and charitable men do each one abound in his ow◠sence still keeping the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace The summe of our faith is the same which we have received from the Apostles We have no◠added any new Articles to the Creed nor do we differ about any of the old ones But they of b Bulla Pii 4. post Concil Trident. Rome have inlarged the Creed of Christians one moity and will needs have the world to beleive many things as points of faith which at the best are but doubtfull opinions among all which there is hardly one wherein themselves do fully agree The c The new title of Cardinalls by the decre of Pope Urban Jun. 10. 1630. See it in the French Merc. Tome 16. pag. 592. most eminent Cardinall Bellarmine in his Controversies against us hath fairly confessed as hath been formerly noted that each opinion almost is controverted amongst themselves A d Contradictiones DD. Rom. Eccl. ex Rob. Bellarmino Autore Joan Pappo Argentorati Ann. 1597. Vide etiam Matthiam 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Sectis controversiis religionis Papisticae Basil 1565. German Doctor hath collected out of Him their contradictions and set them down in his owne words to the number of 237. and withall a Catalogue of such Romane Writers as Bellarmine himselfe hath contradicted and confuted which contains the most part of Writers in his owne Church famous for learning in later ages Ioannes de Radae hath filled two grosse volumes with the contentions of the Thomists and Scotists And the Dominicans and Iesuites have filled libraries with their quarrells in the matter of Grace and Freewill wherein either side pretends the definition of the Trent Councell for their contrarie opinions It seemes that Councell like the Devill in the old Oracles hath deluded them both with ambiguous sentences Or if the definition be cleare one of the Factions doth obstinately contradict it Why doth not his Holinesse all this while interpose and give out his infallible judgment in the questions If he will not he wants charity towards his owne children if he cannot how is he the infallible Iudge Or is it rather his wary wisedome not hastily to decide Controversies wherein witty and learned men on both sides are engaged * As Widdrington and his followers have done See Widdringtons Purgation against the Popes Decree wherein he was condemned for an Heretique and no child of the Church lest in stead of changing their opinions they should fall to challenge not onely the infallibility but which were more dangerous the authority of their Iudge and in stead of reforming their owne judgement despise his The most capitall point of all others in their new Creed is that of the Popes authority and that obedience which he challenges in spirituall and temporall matters yet of all others they are most at discord among themselves about this point The old doubts are not yet resolved whether he be under or above a Generall Councell and whether he may erre in his definitive sentence some advance him with priviledges above the condition of men Others thinke more soberly of his power and are bold to resist him when they see him abuse it In the Trent Councel the Spanish Bishops stood stoutly for the independency of Episcopall authority and strongly maintained residence to be de jure divino being overborne onely with most voices by the Italian faction The Divines of Venice in the late quarrells of pope Paule the 5. against that State neglected the Popes Interdict so that he was fain with shame enough to revoke his Censures e Voiez la Declaration de l' Assemblee Generale du Clergé de France An. 1625. Very lately the Bishops of France have brought the Regulars of that Kingdome under their jurisdiction notwithstanding their exemptions by the Pope And whereas his Flatterers tell him that he hath either directly as f Carerius Bosius c. some say or indirectly as g Bell. c. others to the same purpose a Tempor all Monarchy over all the earth that all Princes are his vassals and may be deposed when he thinkes fitt that he may dispense with subjects for their oath of Allegeance and license them to take armes against their Soveraignes Many good Catholiques detest these damnable doctrines and have h Barclay Withrington The Divines of Venice confuted them as tending to bring ruine and confusion on all states and in France the seditious bookes of Mariana Bellarmine Becanus Suarez Santarellus and such like containing these horrible Maximes of the Society have been cast into the fire by the hand of the publique Hangman But among their discords there is none more memorable or of greater consequence then that of the two Popes Sixtus 5. and Clement 8. about their vulgar See Dr James his Bellum Papale and Cortuptions of the Fathers part 3. Latin Bibles When the Councell of Trent declared that Translation only to be authenticall there were abroad in the World above 60. severall Editions of it each differing from other Which Sixtus taking into consideration with great diligence and advise of many Cardinals he compared the Copies and out of them all published one which he straitly commanded to be received as the onely true Vulgar by a solemne Bull abolishing all others which did not exactly ad verbum and ad
qu. 2. punct 4. in fin Articuli fidei in Symbolo contenti sunt veluti prima principia fidei Christianae in quibus continetur summa Euangelicae doctrinae quam omnes tenenrur explicitè credere Ita judicant Sancti Patres quum affirmant ab Apostolis compositum esse illud Symbolum fidei ur omnes haberent brevem summam corum quae sunt credenda sparsim continentur in Scripturis Gregory of Valence The Articles of the Creed are the first principles of Christian doctrine wherein the summe of the Gospell is comprized which all are bound expressely to beleive So say the Ancient Fathers that this Creed was framed by the Apostles to the end that all Christians might have a short abridgement of those things that must be beleeved f Vinc. Filiucius Moral Quaest Tract 22. c. 2. num 34. Nulla brevior accommodatior assignari potest regula in Ecclesia unde scire possunt fideles quaenam credenda sint populo Christiano explicitè eâ quae continetur in Symbolo cujus Articuli sunt prima rudimenta fidei Vincentius Filiucius There cannot be assigned a shorter and fitter rule of faith in the Church by which Christian people may be instructed in matters to be explicitely beleived then that which is contained in the Apostles Creed the Articles whereof are the first rudiments of our faith g Puteanus in 2. 2. Qu. 2. Art 3. Dub. ult Concl. ult Ideo Symbolum hoc fuit ab Apostolis compositum ut Christiani formam aliquam haberent quâ possent se Catholicos profiteri Ita D. Th. art 5. qu. hujus Puteanus late professor at Tholouse This Creed was made by the Apostles purposely that Christians might by this forme of faith professe themselves to be truly Catholiques as Aquinas here saith The great Cardinall of France h Instruction du Chrestien Leçon premiere Le Symbole des Apostres est le sommaire l'abbregé qu' ils ont faict de la foy necessaire au Chrestien Ces saincts personnages ayant receu commandement de Jesus Christ de s' espandre par tout le monde pour y prescher l'Evangile y planterla foy de toutes parts estimerent qu'il estoit du tout necessaire de reduire en abbregé ce que tout Chrestien doit sçavoir à fin que separiez en diverses parties du monde iâ—â— preschassent vne mesme chose ce d'autant plus aisé à retenir qu' elle seroit reduitte à peu Pour cét effect ils appellerent cét abbregé Symbole qui signifie marque signe parce qu' il leur servoit de marque pour distinguer les vrays Chrestiens qui l'embrassoient des infidelles quila rejettoient Richelieu in his Homelies published for the instruction of his Diocesse The Apostles Creed is the abridgement of that faith which is necessary for a Christian For those holy persons being by the commandement of Iesus Christ to disperse themselves over the world and in all parts by preaching the Gospell to plant the faith esteemed it very necessary to reduce into a short summe all that which Christians ought to know and believe to the end that being separated in diverse quarters of the earth they might all jointly preach one and the same faith in a forme short and briefe that it might be the better remembred Therefore they called this abridgemeÌ„t the Symbole that is a marke or signe which might serve to distinguish true Christians which embraced it from Infidels and misbeleevers It were easie to multiply testimonies to this effect out of their late ancient Schoole-Doctors if it were not tedious All agree that the Creed briefly comprehends all fundamentall principles or rudiments of faith that it is a distinctive note or Character severing Orthodox beleevers from Infidels and Heretiques that it is a full perfect and sufficient summary of the Catholique faith And their judgement herein seemes full of reason For how can it be necessary for any Christian to haue more in his Creed then the Apostles had and the Church of their times May the Church of after ages make the narrow way to heaven narrower then our Saviour left it Shall it be a fault to streiten and encomber the Kings high way with publique nuisances and is it lawfull by adding new Articles to the faith to retrench any thing from the latitude of the King of Heavens high way to eternall happinesse The yoke of Christ which he said was easie may it justly be made heavier by the Governours of the Church in after ages The Apostles professe they revealed to the Church the i Act. 20. 27. whole Counsell of God keeping backe nothing needfull for our salvation what tyranny then to impose any new unnecessary matters on the faith of Christians especially as the late Popes have done under that high commanding forme Qui non crediderit damnabitur If this may be done why then did our Saviour reprehend the Pharisees so sharpely for k Mat. 23. 4. binding heavy burdens and laying them upon mens shoulders And why did he teach them that in l Mat. 15. 30. vaine they worshipped God teaching for doctrines mens traditions And why did the Apostles call it a m Act. 15. 10. tempting of God to lay those things upon the neckes of Christians that were not necessary It is true to guard the depositum committed to her charge and to defend it and every part of it from the incursion of heretiques and to maintain the ancient sence of it against their new and adulterate glosses the Church hath authority and hereto shall not faile of assistance But to adde to it is high presumption almost as great as to detract from it All that can be replyed to this discourse is this that the whole faith of those times is not contain'd in the Apostles Creed which is all one as if a man should say This is not the Apostles Creed but a part of it For the Apostles and the Church of their times in giving it this name doe they not plainly tell us that the summe and substance of their Credenda is comprized in it For to call it Creed and to leave out of it any necessary Article of faith what had it been but to deceive the world The Ancient Church appointing her Infants to be instructed for matter of beleefe n De consecrdist 4. can Ante viginti Symbolum Baptizandos Nonliceat onely in the Creed admitting her Catechumens upoÌ„ their professioÌ„ of the Creed to baptisme into the nuÌ„ber of the faithfull exacting of strangers the same profession before they could be received into the CoÌ„munion of Catholiques did she not by all this evidently declare her judgement that the profession of this Creed and these Articles alone was an absolute profession of the Catholique faith Nay whereas the laudable custome of the Catholique Church required that each new o Marcus Ephesius in Concil Florent Sess
12. pag. 480. ex edit Binn ann 1618. Colon Gr. Lat. Olim quilibet Arcl â—episcopus Patriarcha literas quae Synodicae appellantur inter se dabant nihil aliud continentes quà m rectfidei suique sensus confessionem quod in Orientalibus Ecclesiis hodiéque fit usque ad hoc tempus Patriarch immediately after his assumption to a place of so great trust and authority in the Church should render an account of his faith by his Synodicall or Circular letters called otherwise p Optat. Milevit lib. 2. Siricius hodiè Episcopus Rom. noster est Socius cum quo nobis totus orbis commetcio Formatarum in una communionis societate concordat literae formatae and q Aug. Epist 162. Communicatorias literas jam olim propter suam perversitatem ab unitate Catholica quae toto orbe diffusa est non accipiunt Donatistae Et saepe de illis in ea Epistola communicatoria directed to his Peeres and Companions in that dignity that by the sight of his profession his faith might be judged whether he were a sound Catholique or tainted with heresie and so whether he were fit or unworthy to be admitted into their Communion If in those Letters he did professe entirely to adhere to the Catholique Creeds his profession person was accepted as sound Orthodox The Circular Epistles yet extant of r Extant Concil 6. Gener Act. 11. Sophronius Patriarch of Hierusalem of s Conc. 7. sive Syn. 2. Nic. Act. 3. Tarasius Patriarch of Constantinople of t Apud Baron ad ann 556. num 33. Pelagius Patriarch of Rome of u Extat inter Epistolas Photii MSS. Graecè in Bibl. Bodleiana Photius of Constantinople and many others testifie this So truly said S. Austin w Aug. Epist 57. Regula fidei pusillis magnisque communis that the Creed is a rule of faith common to great and small The meanest Catechumen must beleeve so much and the greatest Patriarch can beleeve no more In those old and golden times those Articles were thought abundantly sufficient and it was thought a great sacriledge to adde any thing to them or diminish them No Catholique in the world was then required to beleeve the Popes Supermacie or his Indulgences or Purgatory or Transubstantiation or any doctrine now debated betweene us and Rome No such matter These things were brought in long after the beginning the Church of Christ was long without them and was well without them and happy had she been whether we regard truth or peace if she had still so continued Nor can it be reasonably said that all or any of these things though not expressed in the Creed are yet contained eminently in the beliefe of the Catholique Church For to omit that these are no traditions or doctrines of the Catholique Church but onely the partiall and particular fancies of the Romane unlesse happily the opinion of Transsubstantiation may be excepted wherein the later * Vide Nicetae Thesau Orthod Gr. Ms in Bib. Bodleiana Euthym. in panoplia tit 21. Hierem. Patr. CP in Resp 1. ad Lutheranos cap. 10. Resp 2. cap. 4. § 3. Nichol. Episc Methon Samonam Arch. Gaz. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 inter Liturgica Graecè edita Parisiis 1560. Greeks seeme to agree with the Romanists 1. what reason can be imagined why amongst many things of equall necessity to be believed the Apostles should so punctually and distinctly set downe some and be altogether silent in others As well nay better they might have given us no Article but that and sent us to the Church for all the rest For in setting downe others besides that and not all they make us beleive we have all when we have not all 2. I suppose no learned Romanist will say that in the beleife of the coÌ„munion of Saints all the new doctrines of the Romane Church are virtually contained Yet the learned y Replique ch 1. Card. du Perron thinks it probable that the Article of the Catholique Church and the Communion of Saints is all one this latter clause being onely an explication of the other 3. Many of the Ancient Doctors have left us their expositions on the Creed Ruffinus S. Augustin Cyrill of Hierusalem Chrysologus Maxim Taurinensis others Where they speake of the Catholique Church all say we must beleive the unity universality perpetuity sanctity of the Church none at all say any thing of any soveraigne infallible power in the Church to prescribe or define what she pleases 4. Lastly Azorius the Iesuite gives a faire meaning to this Article of the Catholique Church and such as little favours the conceit of our Mistaker z Azor. paâ— 1. lib. 8 cap. 6. §. Sed mibi probabilius Substantia articuli quo credimus unam Sanctam Catholicam Ecclesiam est neminem posse salvum esse extrà congregationem hominum qui Christi fidem religionem profitentur susceptam posse salutem obtineri intrà hanc ipsam congregationem hominum piorum fidelium I beleive the holy Catholique Church that is saith he I beleive that none can be saved out of the Congregation of those men who professe the faith and religion of Christ and that within that company of holy and faithfull people salvation may be obtained Now to the reasons alleaged for the full and formall sufficiency of this rule of faith to which nothing essentiall can be added or may be detracted we may adjoine the full consent of the Ancient Doctors Greeke and Latin who come in with one voice each one almost contributing his suffrage to testifie for this perfection of the Creed that in their dayes it was so acknowledged a Iren. lib. 1. cap. 2. 3. Ecclesia per universum orbem seminata ab Apostolis corum discipulis accepit eam fidem quae est in Deum omnipotentem Hanc fidem diligenter custodit Ecclesia in Celtis in Oriente Aegypto Cùm enim una eadem fides sit neque is qui multùm potest de ea dicere superfluit neque is qui parùm imminuit Irenaeus having repeated the most important Articles of it saith It is the faith which the Church throughout the world hath received from the Apostles being every where one and the same admitting neither addition nor diminution Therfore it is called by b Tertul. de vel virg cap. 1. Regula fidei una omninò est sola immobilis irreformabilis Hâc lege fidei manente caetera admittunt novitatem correctionis Tertullian one onely immoveable and unreformable rule which remaining safe other matters of discipline may be altered or corrected as occasion requires And the same Author againe c Id. de Praescript cap. 13. 14. Haec regula null as habet apud nos quaestiones nisi quas herefes inferunt quae haereticos faciunt manente form âejus in suo ordine quantumlibet quaeras tractes Fides in