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A42315 The old Roman Catholik, as at first he was taught by Paul, in opposition to the new Roman Catholick, as of latter he is taught by the Pope the one being apostolicall, the other apostaticall : derived and proven only out of the Epistle of Paul to the Romanes : whereunto is added a clear probation that the same also was the doctrine of the primitive bishops of Rome ... discovering to all clearly the apostasie of that church from the ancient Roman fayth and puritie thereof to the noveltie of gross heresie and idolatrie, and sufficient to convince, if not convert, any papist that is not wilfully obdured / by W. Guild. Guild, William, 1586-1657. 1649 (1649) Wing G2210; ESTC R30326 38,314 116

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poor souls going after that Antichrist spoken of in the Revelatiō as the seduced Israelits did after Absolon in the simplicity of their hearts being drawn away and held on in the way of damnable Errour and gross Idolatrie by this principle and pretence that the church can not erre And that this infallible church is the Roman only and again that this Roman Church is that same for integrity and stability of trueth which it was in the Apostles tyme when for her fayth shee was famous throughout the whole world and in the tymes of their immediate Successours Which indeed if it were so and that the faythfull Citie had not become an Harlot as Isaiah speaketh yea a mother of harlots as shee is called Rev. 17. 5. It were for any a sure and short courss for resolution to know vnto what society amidst so many differences any should betake themselues adhere as to the only true Church out of which there were no Salvation And in all poynts of Fayth and practise of worship without farder hesitation to embrace the breasts of such a Mother and chaste Spouse to her Husband CHRIST believing and practising as such a Church doeth of whose infallibility there were so great certaynty and evidence But if after due tryall and impartiall witnessing it be clearly found and no less clearly may be seen by all who wilfully as it were at noon day will not close their eyes agaynst inforcing light that de facto shee hath left that Primitiue Trueth that either PAUL taught her or her Primitiue Bishops Successours to the Apostles for diverss hundreths of years did lykewyse preach and profess and so that of Bethel the houss of GOD she hath become since that tyme Bethaven the houss of Vanitie Errour and Idolatrie forsaking her first loue and cleaving to Baall I hope then that there are none who would not perish with her but will leaue her in so farre as she hath left ANCIENT TRUETH and imbraced the Noveltie of after succeeding Errour lyke the super-semination of the Tares in the LORDS Field by that envyouss man whyle the Servants were asleep and that as our Saviour reduced these that were misled by the Pharesees corrupt doctrine to consider that which was ab initio or from the beginning which the Apostle calleth that Fayth which was once delivered to the saincts So they will according to the Prophets advyse and exhortation ask for the OLD WAY which is the GOOD WAY and walk therein that they may fynd rest to their soules That is ask and try what was the doctrin which was taught from the beginning by PAUL to the Romanes and to the Church of CHRIST there in His tyme and the tymes of her next primitiue and succeeding Pastours in these poynts controverted now-a-dayes and accordingly adhere thereto disclayming all contrary if they would be accounted true Roman Catholicks that is the Professours of that Apostolicall Trueth Religion which was Universally then taught to the whole Church of CHRIST in generall and to the ROMANES at that tyme in particular For which end I haue set down in this short Treatise the summe of that doctrine collected only out of the Epistle of PAUL TO THE ROMANES as also out of the writs of one for all of their ancient Bishops beyond all comparison of greatest account amongst them Pope Gregory the first for his Pietie and Learning surnamed by them The Great who lived in the six hundreth year of CHRIST To which if they adhere then they must quyte that doctrine of the Church of Rome now-a-dayes because it is in direct tearms as contrary thereto as Light to Darkness GOD and Beliall as shall bee shown here-after Or if they wilfully will adhere to that doctrine of the Romane Church now-a-dayes which is Apostaticall and false then they must quyte that doctrine of the Church of Rome which was taught by PAUL TO THE ROMANES and by her primitiue Bishops which was Apostolicall and true For as Eliah sayd to the people of Israell They can not halt between two opinions If the LORD bee GOD then follow Him But if Baal bee god then follow him Even so say I If Pauls doctrine be true which he taught the Church of Rome then follow it but if they will bee that absurd to think the Popes doctrine to be true which he teacheth and is contrarie to Paulls as the ensuing particulars proves then follow him For there is no midst neither let them think it strange or improbable let bee impossible that the Church of Rome who pleadeth such infallibilitie should make Apostasie and fall from the trueth as Ierusalem farre more priviledged and renowned than shee of a faythful citie became a harlot elss what needed the Apostle Rom. 11. 20. to set before her eyes the example of the cutting off of the Iewish Church who were the natural branches for their Apostasie and therefore to exhort her who yet stood by fayth not to be highmynded but fear Which exhortation had bene altogether vnnecessary if by her priviledge of infallibility which is greatest high-myndedness she had no cause to fear Agayn what needed him to vse this fore-warning of her verss 21. 22. Behold GODS Goodness towards thee if thou continue otherwyse thou shalt be cut off which commination also had bene vnnecessary if shee had this priviledge that shee could not erre but continue And therefore for any Apostasie could never be cut off neither should he haue spoken conditionallie or doubtinglie after this manner if thou continue but particularlie excepted her as one that could not but continue in the fayth and not erre therefra Next if without contradiction it bee evident that both in head and members shee hath erred de facto and fallen from the fayth by the witnessing of Romanists themselues It will be much more than evident that de jure shee may erre and fall from the fayth But that de facto she hath erred is cleare by these few instances 1. Pope Gregorie the great speaking of the title of Universall Bishop he calleth the assuming of it by any who-so-ever to bee the assuming of a new prowd prophane perverss and Antichristian style and a name of Blasphemie which he nor none of his predecessours would ever assume and that In isto scelesto vocabulo consentire nihil aliud est sayeth he quam fidem perdere that is to consent to this most wicked style it is no other thing than to lose the Fayth or make Apostasie therefra But so it is that from Boniface the third his tyme who by great opposition to him by sundrie sayeth Platina the Popes Secretarie obtayned from the Emperour Phocas to be styled so all the latter Popes hitherto haue vsurped the same the whole latter Roman Church consenting thereto Whence it followeth That according to Gregories own words Fidem perdiderunt or they haue fallen from the fayth both the Pope and the Church vnder him Agayn the Pope as Pope whom
THE OLD ROMAN CATHOLIK As at first he was taught by PAUL In opposition to The new Roman Catholik As of latter he is taught by the Pope The one being Apostolicall the other Apostaticall Descrived and proven only out of the Epistle of PAUL TO THE ROMANES Wherevnto is added a clear probation that the same also was the doctrine of the Primitiue Bishops of Rome for the space of fyue hundreth years and aboue and chiefly of Gregorie the first whom they Surnamed The Great Discovering to all clearly the Apostasie of that Church from the ancient Roman Fayth and Puritie thereof to the Noveltie of Gross Heresie and Idolatrie and sufficient to convince if non convert any Papist that is not wilfully obdured REV. 18. 4. Come out of her my people that ye be not partakers of her sinnes and that ye receaue not of her plagues By W. GUILD Principall of the kings Colledge of Old Aberdene Printed in Aberdene by E. Raban 1649. The Epistle Dedicatorie To the Right Worshipfull and Worthy of all Honour Sr THOMAS BURNET Of LEYES KNIGHT BARONET IT is no small admiration to the Professours of the Christian name in common that the Iewes who haue the Old TESTAMENT amongst their hands and dayly therein readeth the Prophesies of the true MESSIAS but that they may see them in every particular long ago fulfilled in IESUS CHRIST whom they did crucifie were not that it is playnlie tolde vs that there is a vaile over their hearts and vntill the tyme that this be taken away and the fulness of the Gentiles be brought in that of the Prophet shall be accomplished in them that they shal haue eys to see not see ears to hear not hear and hearts to know and yet not vnderstand Even so amongst these agayn who are called Christians in common It is no small admiration in lyke manner to such who profess the Trueth in the Reformed Churches of EUROPE that these of the Roman Church having both the Old and New Testament in their hands and reading the doctrine contayned therein Especially in that Epistle written of old by the Apostle to the Romanes But that they may in lyke manner clearly see how grosly in every poynt of Controversie between them and vs they haue swerved from that Ancient Trueth delyvered therein to the Noveltie of latter sprung vp Errour quyte controdictor thereto whereby as Isaiah speaketh Chap. 1. verss 21. the faythfull Citie is become an Harlot Were not in lyke manner that there is a vaile over their hearts and as is fore prophesied of such That their Errour is not only the deceavableness of vnrighteousness in them that perish but such a strong delusion 2. Thess. 2. that they are inebriated or made drunk therewith And so the delusion being strong is not easily overcome nor can they be made sinsible thereof so long as their drunkenness is vpon them more nor Naball could be of his trespass agaynst David as wyse Abigail well knew til his wyne was gone from him 1. Sam. 25. The same being also a mysterie of Iniquitie and mysteries not beeing known as David telleth vs till the eyes be opened Psal. 119. 18. Even so no marvell that this mysterie bee not seen by deluded soulls altho as at Sauls conversion the light shyne as bright about them as at noon day Act. 9. till lykewyse the LORD open their eyes and make the scales of their former ignorance and errour in mercy to fall off And as in curing of Sauls blyndness it pleased the LORD to vse the Ministrie of a Disciple Ananias rather than a great Apostle Even so it hath pleased the LORD sometymes for curing the blyndness of poore seduced soulls by Poperie to vse the Ministrie of some who are but weak instruments That so the greater glory may be his own amongst whom as one as it hath pleased GOD before now to haue blessed my weak endevours for that end So I haue taken the ensuing paynes to see as yet if by HIS BLESSING I may reclayme but one poore soull to come out of Babell and gayn it to CHRIST wherein if the success bee according to my hearty and charitable desyre I shall bless the LORD whose only work is the bringing back of the strayed sheep and conversion of a simple soull But if it be otherwyse and that the wilfull ignorant seduced say as their predecessours did when the LORD by His Prophet Ierem. 6. 20. did exhort them to stand in the wayes and see and ask for the old paths which is the good way and walk therein and they should fynd rest to their soulls But they sayd we will not walk therein then it shall bee sufficient to mee that my work is with my GOD altho with Ieremie chap. 6. 29. I may say that the bellowes are burnt the lead is consumed in the fyre the founder hath melted in vayn and they haue proven reprobate silver These pains then Sir which I haue taken herin I haue dedicated to Your W. as for diverss other reasons so for this as a main one that You haue joined with piety the verbal Profession of the Trueth such Fruits of Charitie and reall expression of a true Fayth as is rare now-a-dayes In founding three Burses of Philosophie in that Universitie wherein You had Your breeding wherof I haue the Charge which will tend next to GODS Glory the Poors Comfort and enlargement of that Seminarie to the Eternall Honour Lykewyse and Memory both of You and of Your Honourable Houss whereof You are Head So that as Your Arms are the Ever-green Holline Leaues with a blowing Horn and this Diton VIRESCIT VULNERE VIRTUS So shall this Your Munificence sutablie bee Ever-green and fresh to all ages in memory and whyle this Houss standeth Your Prayse and Commemoration amongst Her chief Benefactours will ever alowd bee sounded therein with this Diton VIRESCIT MUNERE VIRTUS Go on then Sir in an Happy Progress of Well-doing And as You sow in Righteousness You shall reap in Mercy Which with the Addition of all Honour and Happiness here shall be the hearty wish of Your VVorships in all respectiue and affectioned duety W. GUILD THE EPISTLE To the Ingenuous and Impartiall Reader IT it not without cause that the Whore of Babylon spoken of in the Revelation is sayd to haue her abominations and filthiness of her fornications covered in a golden cup and that the Beast that speaketh lyke the Dragon the more cunningly to deceaue taketh vpon him to be horned lyke the Lamb yet being his direct opposit Also That devouring wolues are fore-told to be found most dangerous when they are in sheeps cloathing Satan ever that Prince of Darkness prevailing most when hee changeth himself into an Angell of Light and foulest practises being most vsually masked lyke these of Simeon and Levies Ioabs and Iudases with fayrest pretences which may be seen most clearly by all who haue eyes to see in the crafty seduction of many
they call the Virtuall Church de facto hath erred Ergo hee and the Church following him may erre The Antecedent is proven by the testimonie of many famous Romanists themselues as Nilus Gerson Almain Alfonsus à Castro and which is to be noted Pope Adrian himself as Bellarmine acknowledgeth lib. 4. de Pontif. Rom. c. 2. The lyke doeth Cardinall Cusanus witness Ambrosius Catharinus Lyra Erasmus and the Councell of Basill who in their 34. Session deposed Eugenius the fourth as hereticall So did the sixt Generall Councell of Constantinople condemne Pope Honorius as a Monothelite as Bellarmin confesseth lib. 4. de Pont. c. 11. That Pope Liberius also was an Arrian and Pope Anastasius an Nestorian no man will doubt sayeth Alfonsus à Castro who hath read histories also that Vigilius was an Eutychian that Zepherin was a Montanist and that Iohn the 23 denyed the Resurrection is evident by most famous Histories of their own witnessing 2. Lykewyse to come to poynts of Doctrine wherein by their own confession they haue erred and departed from the Ancient Fayth I will instance first the Roman Churches prohibition of the people to reade the holy Scriptures And if it be asked whether in this poynt shee hath erred and departed from the fayth and practise of the Primitiue Church Their own Bishop Claudius Espencaeus on Titus 2. will tell them saying It is manyfest by the doctrine of the Apostle Col. 3. 4. And by the practise of the Church sayeth hee that of old the vse of the Scriptures was permitted to the people Here then a confessed departure from the Ancient Fayth 3. The Roman Church hath decreed That all publick Prayers and Worship bee in a tongue vnknown to the people And if it bee asked Whether herein shee hath erred and departed from the Ancient Fayth Their own Cardinall Cajetan will tell them saying By the doctrine of Saynct Paull it is to bee held that it is farre better for the edifying of the Church that the publick Prayers which are vttered in the hearing of the people bee sayd in a language that is common and known both to Clergie and people And that this was lykewyse the practise of the Primitiue Church This both Lyra and Aquinas testifieth Here then agayn a confessed departure from the Ancient Fayth and practise of the Primitiue Church 4. The present Roman Church teacheth Invocation of Sayncts And if it be asked Whether in this they hold the Ancient Fayth taught by the Apostles or hath departed therefra Their own Eckius Luthers great Antagonist will tell them saying Besydes that we haue nothing hereof in the Old Testament In the New lykewyse the Apostles nor Evangelists neither taught by word sayeth hee nor left any such thing by writ that the Sayncts departed should be invocated nor would the holy Ghost by whose inspiration they spake suffer them so to do sayeth he and yet as Paull testifieth they taught the whole Councell of GOD Whence it followeth that the Invocation of Sayncts is no part thereof And consequently a departure from the Ancient Catholick and Apostolicall Fayth and practise Iustly accursed by GOD For if an Angell from Heaven sayeth the Apostle teach any thing besyde that which wee haue preached vnto you let him bee accursed 5. The Church of Rome now teacheth That the people should not participate of the consecrated cup in the Communion And if it be asked If herein they follow CHRISTS Institution or the practise of the Primitiue Church Not only doeth their own Lyra and Aquinas ingenuously confess That shee hath departed therefra But also the whole Councell of Constance holden anno 1414. Sess. 13. confesseth clearly That CHRIST indeed instituted this Venerable Sacrament in both kynds of bread and wyne and gaue it so to His Disciples As also that in the Primitiue Church say they the same was receaved by the Faythfull in both kynds And yet for certayn causes the Roman Church hath ordayned the contrary Here then a clear confession of a gross departing from the Ancient Fayth and practise of the Primitiue Church 6. The present Roman Church teacheth Transsubstantiation of the bread into the Body of CHRIST in the Sacrament of the LORDS SUPPER And if it bee asked If this bee the Ancient Catholick and Apostolick Fayth 1. The Apostle 1. Cor. 11. 26. will teach them the contrary affirming That after Consecration the bread remayneth in substance Even when it is eaten And if next to the Apostle they will heare one of their most ancient Popes whom they say cannot erre Gelasius will tell them playnly saying tho the Sacrament bee a divyne thing becauss therein wee receaue the body and blood of CHRIST yet the substance and nature of the bread and wyne ceasseth not still to remayn sayeth hee And as for the Words of CHRIST whereby they would proue Transsubstantiation if they will hear the exposition of them out of their Popes Canon Law it will tell them saying The Heavenly Sacrament which truely REPRESENTETH CHRISTS FLESH is called CHRISTS BODIE but improperlie So that in this mayn poynt we see they haue departed from the Ancient Fayth which was taught by the Apostle and believed by their own ancient Popes and Canonists 7. The present Romane Church teacheth That after this lyf for soules of them that are saved there is a fyre of Purgatorie And if it bee asked If this was the Ancient Fayth of the Catholick Church Their own Fisher Bishop of Rochester will tell them That in the Western or Roman Church it is but Sero cognitum or lately only known And as for the Eastern or Grecian Church even vnto this day sayeth hee they never did belieue Purgatorie Here then a clear confession that the present Roman Church holdeth not the Ancient Fayth of the Catholick Church Eastern nor Western but hath swerved therefra 8. And if by farder witnessing they would be informed of the defection of the Church of Rome by Fathers others a matter indeed wherein they are lyke to Thomas hard of belief let Ierom testifie what progress it had made even in his tyme which was a mystery of Iniquity working even in Pauls dayes who about the four hundreth year of CHRIST wryting to Paulinus sayeth thus When I was in Babylon calling Rome so and lived an inhabitant of that Purple Whore I desyred as it were to prattle somewhat of the holy Ghost and to dedicate my work to the Bishop of that Citie to wit Damasus and behold the Assembly of the Pharisees there cryed me down amongst whom there was not any learned Scrybe but the whole faction of ignorance conspyred agaynst mee as if I had proclaymed some Doctrinall Warre agaynst them c. Which words even vnto admiration calling Rome Babylon the Scarlet Whore The Clergie whereof were a faction of blynd Pharisees who cryed downe all Godly and Learned Men for advancing themselues only and their own credit would seem
of David according to the flesh Whence it followeth If CHRISTS Body or flesh is made only once of the seed of David that it is absurd therefore and contrary to Scripture that His body or flesh is only made by Transsubstantiation of the seed of wheat or substance of bread in the holy Sacrament and that this Transsubstantiation is as it were CHRISTS second birth or begetting as the late Iesuits affirm For so sayeth Cornelius à lapide on Isai 7. 14. By the words of Consecration as the bread is truely really transsubstantiate sayth hee so CHRIST is brought forth and as it were begotten vpon the Altar as powerfully and effectually as if CHRIST were not as yet incarnate Therefore sayeth hee The Priest is as the Virgin that bare Him the Altar is the Manger and the little Emmanuell which hee beareth is CHRIST brought forth vnder the little hostie A most monstrous and blasphemous speach whereby they will haue CHRIST not once but daylie to bee born not of the substance of the Virgin but of the substance of bread and His body not once but daylie also to bee broken and His blood shed in their idolatrous Mass. Whereas on the contrary agreeable to Scripture sayeth Theodoret and with him Pope Gelasius The mysticall signs departeth not from their own nature but remayn sayeth hee in their former substance form and figure and may bee seen and touched as they were before Rom. 8. 34. Who is hee that condemneth It is CHRIST that died yea rather that is risen agayn who is even at the Right Hand of GOD c. And as the Apostle teacheth Act. 3. 21. Whom the Heavens must contayn till the last day or restitution of all things If CHRISTS Body then wherein Hee died and rose agayn sitteth now at the Right Hand of GOD glorified in the Heavens till Hee come agayn from thence at the Last Day It followeth therefore that the Body of CHRIST is not by transsubstantiation every-where on earth between the Priests fingers in the Mass or between the teeth of the people to bee chewed in the Sacrament as is affirmed in the Popes Decretall * Wherefore when Hee was on earth Hee was not then in Heaven sayeth Vigilius and with him Fulgentius and now being in Heaven Hee is not to bee had on earth 4. That the Mass is not Propitiarie Sacrifice ROM. 6. 9. 10. Knowing that CHRIST being raysed from the dead dieth no more death hath no more dominion over Him for in that Hee died Hee died to sinne once But in that Hee liveth Hee liveth vnto GOD Seeing then that CHRIST died but once and dieth no more and that this His death was that onlie Propitiatorie Sacrifice once for ever offered on the Cross never to bee reiterated as wee are clearly taught Hbr. 9. 25. and 10. 14. Therefore it followeth That there is no Propitiatorie Sacrifice offered vp in the Mass but only a commemoration in the Sacrament of CHRISTS Death and Passion Wherefore sayeth Eusebius and with him Ambrose After that CHRIST had offered vp that admirable and excellent Sacrifice to His Father for the Salvation of all Hee instituted sayeth hee that wee should still offer vp the Rememberance of that Benefit in place of a Sacrifice to GOD But not as any Propitiatorie Sacrifice properly it selff CHAP. VII Of PURGATORIE That there is no such Place whether the Souls of the Godly go after this lyff ROM. 8. 1. There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in CHRIST IESUS If therefore there bee no condemnation at all then after death when they are pronounced presentlie blessed and resteth from their labours they are not condemned to any Hellish and Tormenting Purgatorie Agayn Rom. 8. 33. Who shall lay any thing to the charge of GODS Elect It is GOD that justifieth And who is hee that condemneth It is CHRIST that died yea rather that is risen agayn who is even at the Right Hand of GOD and maketh intercession for vs Remark then That agaynst any thing that may bee layed to the charge of the Elect for which they may bee condemned after this lyff to any such Hellish Place or Punishment as Purgatorie there are three powerfull thinges opposed 1. GODS justifying them by a full and free Remission of all their sinnes what-so-ever and consequently from any such Hellish Punishment of them here-after 2. CHRISTS Death or Blood-shed which as Iohn testifieth purgeth vs from all Sinne and 3. CHRISTS Intercession in the Heavens which is sufficientlie powerfull to saue the Souls of His Elect after this lyf from any such fyrie Torment Wherefore sayeth Iustin Martyr After the departure of the Soull from the bodie presently is made a distinction between the good and the bad For they are carried to the Places whereof they are worthie The Souls of the Godly by the Angels being carried to Paradise where the company and sight of Angels and Archangels is as also the sight of CHRIST our SAVIOUR according to these words whill wee are absent from the body we are present with the Lord But the souls of the wicked sayeth hee are carried to Hell FINIS The Doctrine of the Primitiue Bishops of Rome whill the Faithful City became not an Harlor and her Pastours Impostours And especially the Doctrine of GREGORIE the first who lived fyue hundreth years after CHRIST is called by them for his Vertue and Learning GREGORIE THE GREAT CHAP. I. Of Scripture And 1. That the Maccabees and other Apocrypha books are not Canonicall GREGORIE speaking of the Probation of a poynt out of the Maccabees sayeth thus De qua nō inordinate agimus si ex libris etsi non canonicis sed tamen ad aedificationem Ecclesiae editis testimonium proferamus That is Of which matter wee do not disorderlie if we bring a testimonie out of these books which albeit they are not canonicall yet are set forth for the edifying of the Church And that this was the judgement and fayth of the whole Western Christian Church before and at that tyme Ierom declareth saying Hos libros legit quidem Ecclesia sed inter canonicas scripturas non recipit That is The Church indeed readeth these bookes but receaveth them not amongst Canonicall Scriptures 2. That the Scriptures without doctrinall Traditions are all sufficient for instruction of Fayth and Manners WHerein thus sayeth Gregorie In hoc volumine Omnia quae crudiunt Cuncta quae aedificant continentur That is In this Book of Scripture all things that are for instruction and all things that are for edification are contayned But as for dogmaticall traditions S●pè heretici sayeth hee dum sua student perversa astruere ea proferunt quae in sacrorum librorum paginis non continentur That is Often tymes Hereticks whyle as they endeavour to build vp their perverss doctrines they produce thinges which in the Books of Sacred Scripture are no wyse contayned 3.