Selected quad for the lemma: doctrine_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
doctrine_n	catholic_n	church_n	heresy_n	2,269	5	9.0057	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A36090	A Discourse concerning the nominal and real trinitarians		1695 (1695)	Wing D1589; ESTC R29734	36,049	42

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