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that_o woman_n shall_v teach_v or_o speak_v in_o the_o church_n nor_o baptise_v nor_o offer_v origen_n hom_n 13._o in_o exod._n you_o think_v yourselves_o guilty_a and_o unworthy_a if_o any_o part_n of_o the_o consecrate_a host_n be_v lose_v through_o your_o negligence_n s._n hippolytus_n orat._n de_fw-fr antichr_n bring_v in_o christ_n speak_v thus_o come_v you_o bishop_n and_o priest_n who_o have_v daily_o offer_v my_o precious_a body_n and_o blood_n how_o clear_a be_v the_o follow_a father_n s._n epiphanius_n s._n chrysostome_n s._n athanasius_n s._n basil_n etc._n etc._n with_o s._n augustine_n for_o this_o as_o even_o in_o the_o three_o age_n s._n cyprian_n serm._n de_fw-fr coena_fw-la dom_n the_o eucharist_n be_v a_o holocaust_n to_o purge_v our_o sin_n and_o in_o his_o epistle_n ad_fw-la cyrill_n he_o call_v it_o a_o sacrifice_n seven_o time_n 4._o protestant_n deny_v the_o real_a presence_n and_o transubstantion_n but_o in_o the_o first_o age_n s._n ignatius_n in_o his_o 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