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A66965 The Greeks opinion touching the Eucharist misrepresented by Monsieur Claude in his answer to Mr. Arnold R. H., 1609-1678. 1686 (1686) Wing W3447; ESTC R26397 39,994 38

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ecce_fw-la vennio_fw-la ad_fw-la immortalem_fw-la regem_fw-la etc._n etc._n where_o it_o must_v be_v remember_v that_o the_o greek_n also_o hold_v the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n that_o be_v receive_v in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v immortal_a and_o incorruptible_a this_o we_o find_v in_o their_o liturgy_n and_o suitable_a to_o this_o we_o read_v in_o cabasilas_n 39_o cabasilas_n c._n 39_o expound_v the_o ligurgy_n concern_v the_o people_n before_o their_o communicate_v ipsi_fw-la autem_fw-la say_v he_o fidem_fw-la attendentes_fw-la et_fw-la adorant_fw-la et_fw-la benedicunt_fw-la et_fw-la jesum_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o eye_n donis_fw-la sanctificatis_fw-la intelligitur_fw-la oppose_a to_o videtur_fw-la ut_fw-la deum_fw-la celebrant_a where_o m._n claude_n note_n be_v 222._o be_v l._n 3._o c._n 7._o p._n 222._o 1._o that_o non_fw-la adorant_fw-la dona_fw-la sed_fw-la jesum_fw-la but_o who_o say_v that_o a_o sovereign_a adoration_n be_v due_a or_o give_v to_o the_o dona_fw-la again_o 2._o 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