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A12484 Of the author and substance of the protestant church and religion two bookes. Written first in Latin by R.S. Doctour of Diuinity, and now reuiewed by the author, and translated into English by VV. Bas.; De auctore et essentia Protestanticae Ecclesiae et religionis libri duo. English Smith, Richard, 1566-1655.; Bas., W. 1621 (1621) STC 22812; ESTC S117611 239,031 514

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participation_n of_o sacrament_n communication_n of_o public_a prayer_n and_o such_o like_a other_o ecclesiastical_a exercise_n to_o wit_n when_o one_o thought_n he_o agree_v with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o principal_a head_n of_o christian_a faith_n yet_o i_o know_v not_o for_o what_o light_a cause_n withdraw_v himself_o from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n and_o communicate_v not_o with_o she_o in_o the_o sacrament_n such_o say_v he_o be_v proper_o call_v schismatics_n m._n perkins_n in_o cap._n 5._o galat._n vers_fw-la 21._o heresy_n be_v in_o doctrine_n schism_n in_o manner_n order_n and_o government_n d._n fulke_o de_fw-fr success_n pag._n 165_o there_o may_v be_v schism_n in_o the_o church_n where_o the_o same_o doctrine_n be_v hold_v on_o both_o party_n &_o the_o one_o want_v lawful_a succession_n d._n field_n lib._n 1._o of_o the_o church_n cap._n 7_o some_o profess_v the_o whole_a save_a faith_n but_o not_o in_o unity_n as_o schismatic_o 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not_o within_o the_o church_n again_o danaeus_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccl._n c._n 5._o say_v this_o be_v the_o mark_n that_o thou_o be_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o outward_o thou_o profess_v the_o faith_n &_o communicate_v with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o same_o sacrament_n but_o schismatics_n do_v not_o communicate_v in_o sacrament_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n and_o d._n feild_n lib._n 2._o of_o the_o church_n cap._n 2._o say_v communion_n in_o sacrament_n under_o lawful_a pastor_n be_v a_o essential_a note_n of_o the_o true_a catholic_a church_n but_o shismatik_n want_v this_o communion_n and_o casaubon_n epist_n ad_fw-la card._n peron_n pag._n 9_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n be_v unite_v in_o the_o unity_n of_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n and_o conjunction_n of_o mind_n and_o in_o true_a charity_n and_o office_n of_o charity_n especial_o of_o mutual_a prayer_n but_o schismatic_n be_v not_o unite_v in_o charity_n and_o office_n of_o 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607._o gesnerus_fw-la in_o bibliotheca_fw-la say_v of_o luther_n the_o new_a bear_v church_n do_v owe_v much_o unto_o he_o gospel_n recall_v gospel_n muscle_n epist_n dedicat_fw-la locorum_fw-la i_o be_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o new_a rise_a evangelicall_a truth_n bucer_n in_o retract_v pag._n 642._o use_v these_o word_n gospel_n begin_v of_o the_o new_a bear_v gospel_n among_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o recall_v gospel_n beza_n in_o cap_n 3._o rom._n v._n 20._o they_o by_o who_o ministry_n god_n in_o our_o age_n have_v recall_v to_o light_v christ_n gospel_n almost_o bury_v gualther_n praefat._n in_o rom._n how_o much_o harm_n the_o anabaptist_n do_v at_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o new_a bear_v gospel_n again_o quicken_a again_o martyr_n in_o locis_fw-la tom_fw-mi 2._o pag._n 228._o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o gospel_n bear_v again_o and_o in_o epist_n dedicat_fw-la comment_n ad_fw-la rom._n the_o gospel_n quicken_a again_o hospin_n epist_n dedicat_fw-la 1._o part_n histor_n the_o evangelicall_a truth_n bear_v again_o sohinus_fw-la in_o methodo_fw-la theol._n pag._n 215._o among_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n bear_v again_o and_o caluin_n 4._o institut_fw-la cap._n 7._o §_o 24._o the_o doctrsne_n of_o the_o gospel_n bear_v again_o lib._n the_o scan_v pag._n 76._o &_o 94._o the_o gospel_n bear_v again_o admonit_fw-la 2._o ad_fw-la westphalum_fw-la pag._n 784._o the_o gospel_n be_v bear_v again_o and_o count_v scruetum_fw-la pag._n 592_o of_o the_o gospel_n bear_v again_o and_o in_o like_a manner_n he_o speak_v ordinary_o sadel_n respo_n ad_fw-la arthurum_fw-la cap._n 7._o the_o church_n bear_v again_o paraeus_n in_o miscellan_n ursini_n pag._n 26._o the_o light_n of_o the_o gospel_n bear_v again_o danaeus_n respon_n ad_fw-la solnec_fw-la pag._n 1565_o in_o the_o very_a beginning_n of_o the_o gospel_n bear_v again_o plessic_n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 11_o christ_n bear_v again_o cambden_n in_o apparatu_fw-la annalium_fw-la the_o rise_a
also_o in_o that_o name_n it_o can_v be_v say_v that_o they_o be_v call_v so_o in_o disgrace_n or_o contempt_n four_o it_o appear_v to_o be_v false_a that_o d._n morton_n lib._n cit_fw-la and_o d._n sutlive_v lib._n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 2._o say_v it_o be_v rather_o to_o be_v attribute_v to_o a_o lie_n then_o to_o luther_n desert_n that_o protestant_n call_v themselves_o lutheran_n for_o as_o we_o see_v luther_n himself_o call_v they_o so_o and_o therein_o they_o follow_v his_o example_n neither_o skill_v it_o that_o luther_n do_v once_o dislike_v this_o name_n because_o he_o do_v oftentimes_o use_v it_o &_o it_o be_v usual_a to_o luther_n to_o allow_v and_o disallow_v the_o same_o thing_n five_o we_o see_v it_o to_o be_v false_a which_o d._n whitaker_n write_v count_v 2_o quest_n 5._o cap._n 2_o pag._n 494_o none_o of_o we_o ever_o call_v himself_o a_o lutheran_n we_o acknowledge_v not_o these_o name_n nor_o be_v we_o delight_v with_o they_o this_o name_n our_o adversary_n have_v 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to_o have_v be_v before_o luther_n time_n by_o any_o probable_a argument_n or_o sufficient_a testimony_n chap._n xv._o the_o ten_o and_o last_o demonstration_n for_o to_o prove_v that_o luther_n be_v the_o first_o author_n of_o the_o protestant_n church_n and_o religion_n i_o will_v take_v from_o hence_o that_o albeit_o protestant_n do_v sometime_o bold_o affirm_v their_o church_n and_o religion_n to_o have_v be_v before_o luther_n time_n yet_o they_o can_v never_o prove_v it_o by_o any_o reasonable_a argument_n or_o sufficient_a testimony_n which_o thing_n alone_o will_v suffice_v to_o show_v that_o as_o i_o say_v before_o it_o be_v a_o fable_n vain_o feign_v false_o affirm_v and_o fond_o believe_v it_o have_v be_v always_o the_o fashion_n of_o heretic_n bold_o to_o avouch_v any_o thing_n but_o few_o thing_n to_o prove_v even_o in_o show_n this_o s._n augustin_n do_v often_o observe_v in_o the_o manichee_n and_o donatist_n and_o some_o of_o his_o say_n we_o have_v allege_v before_o 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