in_o s._n peter_n be_v his_o primacy_n and_o sovereignty_n in_o god_n church_n and_o the_o renovation_n thereof_o be_v a_o confirmation_n or_o rather_o a_o increase_n of_o it_o as_o of_o a_o thing_n which_o he_o have_v never_o lose_v and_o be_v then_o renew_v be_v make_v more_o eminent_a than_o before_o but_o perhaps_o some_o will_v say_v that_o m._n andrews_n do_v not_o here_o plain_o affirm_v as_o his_o own_o opinion_n that_o s._n peter_n fall_v from_o the_o apostleship_n but_o relate_v the_o doctrine_n of_o s._n augustine_n and_o s._n cyril_n who_o seem_v to_o he_o so_o to_o say_v therefore_o let_v we_o hear_v what_o he_o say_v himself_o in_o another_o place_n concern_v the_o same_o vero_fw-la 28._o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la say_v he_o expressè_fw-la faternur_v uni_fw-la dictum_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o confess_v express_o that_o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la be_v say_v to_o one_o yea_o thrice_o say_v to_o one_o because_o he_o have_v thrice_o deny_v atque_fw-la ea_fw-la voce_fw-la muneri_fw-la 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he_o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la do_v remain_v good_a and_o sound_a notwithstanding_o m._n andrew_n false_a gloss_n thereupon_o yea_o and_o that_o they_o be_v much_o confirm_v by_o these_o very_a place_n of_o s._n augustine_n s._n ambrose_n &_o saint_n cyril_n which_o he_o have_v produce_v against_o us._n for_o whereas_o all_o his_o drift_n be_v to_o prove_v out_o of_o those_o father_n that_o s._n peter_n have_v nothing_o more_o by_o that_o pastoral_n commission_n than_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n you_o have_v hear_v out_o of_o s._n augustine_n that_o in_o receive_v that_o commission_n he_o represent_v the_o person_n and_o figure_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n by_o reason_n of_o his_o primacy_n among_o the_o apostle_n and_o out_o of_o s._n ambrose_n that_o he_o be_v thereby_o prefer_v before_o all_o the_o apostle_n and_o last_o out_o of_o s._n cyril_n that_o he_o be_v prince_n and_o head_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o the_o same_o dignity_n for_o he_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o he_o acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v in_o he_o before_o his_o fall_n be_v renew_v by_o that_o commission_n supremacy_n whereto_o may_v be_v add_v the_o testimony_n of_o s._n chrysostome_n who_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr sacerdotio_fw-la treat_v of_o those_o word_n pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la say_v that_o our_o saviour_n will_v have_v s._n peter_n to_o be_v auctoritate_fw-la praeditum_fw-la 2._o ac_fw-la reliquis_fw-la item_n apostolis_n longè_fw-la praecellere_fw-la endue_v with_o authority_n and_o also_o far_o to_o excel_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n 31._o and_o again_o in_o his_o homily_n upon_o s._n johns_n gospel_n and_o the_o same_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n he_o say_v that_o christ_n ask_v s._n peter_n whether_o he_o love_v he_o because_o he_o to_o wit_n peter_n be_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o prince_n &_o head_n of_o the_o congregation_n and_o further_o teach_v that_o by_o those_o word_n christ_n commit_v unto_o he_o curam_fw-la fratrum_fw-la the_o charge_n of_o his_o brethren_n for_o so_o he_o explicate_v pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la neque_fw-la negationis_fw-la meminit_fw-la ibidem_fw-la say_v he_o neque_fw-la exprobrat_fw-la tantùm_fw-la dicit_fw-la si_fw-la amas_fw-la i_o fratrum_fw-la curam_fw-la susciptas_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v neither_o do_v christ_n remember_v peter_n denial_n neither_o do_v he_o upbraid_v he_o with_o it_o but_o only_o say_v if_o thou_o love_v i_o take_v the_o charge_n of_o thy_o brethren_n so_o he_o and_o that_o by_o s._n peter_n brethren_n our_o saviour_n mean_v the_o apostle_n it_o appear_v evident_o afterward_o in_o the_o same_o homily_n where_o s._n chrysostome_n note_n 〈◊〉_d that_o albeit_o at_o christ_n last_o supper_n s._n peter_n do_v not_o presume_v to_o ask_v our_o saviour_n a_o question_n ibid._n but_o will_v s._n john_n to_o do_v it_o yet_o now_o after_o this_o commission_n be_v give_v he_o commissa_fw-la sibi_fw-la fratrum_fw-la cura_fw-la say_v he_o vicem_fw-la svam_fw-la altâ—ri_fw-la non_fw-la mandat_fw-la sed_fw-la ipse_fw-la magistrum_fw-la interrogat_fw-la the_o charge_n of_o his_o brethren_n be_v commit_v unto_o he_o he_o do_v not_o now_o delegate_v any_o other_o but_o himself_o ask_v their_o master_n thus_o say_v s._n chrysostome_n give_v plain_o to_o understand_v that_o s._n peter_n have_v by_o this_o commission_n receive_v the_o charge_n of_o his_o brethren_n the_o apostle_n be_v more_o confident_a than_o before_o and_o will_v not_o use_v the_o intervention_n of_o any_o of_o they_o because_o they_o be_v under_o his_o charge_n but_o himself_o ask_v our_o saviour_n as_o the_o mouth_n prince_n and_o head_n of_o the_o apostolical_a congregation_n for_o so_o you_o have_v also_o hear_v s._n chrysostome_n term_v he_o before_o in_o the_o same_o homily_n 32._o so_o that_o you_o see_v this_o holy_a father_n teach_v the_o same_o that_o the_o other_o before_o mention_v do_v to_o wit_n that_o s._n peter_n have_v by_o this_o commission_n a_o pre-eminence_n and_o prerogative_n above_o all_o the_o apostle_n yea_o and_o that_o the_o
be_v head_n governor_n and_o pastor_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n but_o not_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n that_o peter_n be_v for_o they_o have_v a_o chief_a and_o most_o ample_a power_n as_o apostle_n or_o legate_n but_o peter_n have_v it_o as_o ordinary_a pastor_n beside_o that_o they_o have_v their_o full_a power_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o nevertheless_o peter_n be_v their_o head_n and_o they_o depend_v of_o he_o and_o not_o he_o of_o they_o and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o be_v promise_v to_o peter_n matth._n 16._o when_o it_o be_v say_v unto_o he_o in_o presence_n of_o the_o rest_n upon_o this_o rock_n i_o will_v buyld_v my_o church_n which_o beside_o the_o other_o father_n before_o cite_v s._n hierome_n teach_v in_o his_o first_o book_n against_o jovinian_a where_o explicate_v what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o building_n the_o church_n upon_o peter_n he_o say_v thus_o licèt_fw-la super_fw-la omnes_fw-la apostolos_fw-la etc._n etc._n although_o the_o strength_n of_o the_o church_n be_v establish_v equal_o upon_o all_o the_o apostle_n yet_o therefore_o one_o be_v choose_v among_o the_o twelve_o to_o the_o end_n that_o a_o head_n be_v make_v the_o occasion_n of_o schism_n may_v be_v take_v away_o 27._o thus_o far_o the_o cardinal_n which_o i_o hope_v may_v suffice_v to_o teach_v m._n andrews_n how_o the_o church_n be_v found_v equal_o upon_o the_o apostle_n to_o wit_n the_o two_o first_o way_n whereof_o the_o cardinal_n speak_v as_o mention_v in_o the_o apocalypse_n and_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o ephesian_n where_o not_o only_o the_o apostle_n but_o also_o the_o prophet_n be_v call_v foundation_n of_o the_o church_n which_o may_v well_o stand_v with_o the_o primacy_n of_o s._n peter_n and_o s._n hieromes_n doctrine_n concern_v the_o same_o whereas_o m._n andrews_n make_v s._n hierome_n impugn_v s._n peter_n primacy_n by_o the_o equality_n that_o he_o mention_v make_v he_o contradict_v himself_o and_o overthrow_v his_o own_o doctrine_n in_o the_o very_a next_o word_n after_o wherein_o he_o expound_v as_o the_o cardinal_n note_v very_o well_o what_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o building_n of_o the_o church_n upon_o s._n peter_n signify_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v thereby_o that_o our_o saviour_n make_v s._n peter_n head_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o i_o will_v show_v further_o hereafter_o by_o m._n andrews_n his_o own_o confession_n so_o that_o it_o be_v clear_a enough_o that_o the_o cardinal_n leave_v not_o those_o word_n of_o s._n hierome_n uncyte_v sequ_o as_o prejudicial_a to_o peter_n primacy_n but_o only_o for_o brevitye_n sake_n bellarmine_n and_o that_o therefore_o m._n andrews_n have_v notable_o calumniate_v he_o as_o well_o in_o this_o place_n as_o in_o the_o former_a seek_v to_o cast_v upon_o he_o some_o suspicion_n of_o fraudulent_a deal_n in_o the_o cytation_n of_o author_n which_o be_v indeed_o the_o proper_a talon_n of_o m._n barlow_n and_o m._n andrews_n as_o you_o have_v hitherto_o see_v sufficient_o prove_v in_o they_o both_o and_o shall_v see_v further_o exemplyfy_v hereafter_o in_o m._n andrews_n to_o his_o confusion_n 28._o the_o second_o point_n which_o i_o wish_v to_o be_v observe_v in_o his_o gloss_n upon_o s._n hieromes_n text_n retortedâ—_n be_v that_o he_o say_v the_o cardinal_n follow_v jovinian_a in_o affirm_v that_o the_o church_n be_v found_v upon_o s._n peter_n as_o if_o the_o cardinal_n do_v teach_v therein_o soâ—e_a heresy_n of_o jovinian_n and_o not_o s._n hieromes_n doctrine_n but_o this_o surpass_v all_o impudence_n for_o no_o doubt_n he_o speak_v against_o his_o own_o conscience_n and_o knowledge_n see_v he_o can_v be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o contrary_a if_o he_o have_v read_v and_o examine_v that_o very_a place_n in_o s._n hierome_n which_o he_o object_v where_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o matter_n then_o in_o controversy_n betwixt_o s._n hierome_n and_o jovinian_a be_v about_o the_o merit_n of_o virginity_n jovinian_a because_o jovinian_a equal_v marâ—ryage_n with_o it_o which_o heresy_n s._n hierome_n in_o that_o place_n labour_v to_o confuteâ—_n and_o for_o as_o much_o as_o the_o heretyke_a have_v object_v the_o marriage_n of_o the_o apostle_n infer_v thereupon_o that_o if_o virginity_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o marriage_n christ_n will_v not_o have_v choose_v marry_v man_n but_o virgin_n to_o be_v his_o apostle_n and_o the_o prince_n and_o captain_n of_o christian_a discipline_n therefore_o s._n hierome_n answer_v that_o it_o appear_v not_o in_o the_o scripture_n that_o any_o of_o they_o have_v a_o wife_n except_o saint_n peter_n and_o that_o he_o be_v marry_v while_o he_o be_v under_o the_o law_n live_v continent_n from_o his_o wife_n after_o his_o vocation_n to_o the_o apostleship_n and_o that_o if_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n have_v wyve_n before_o their_o vocation_n they_o abstayn_v from_o they_o ever_o after_o and_o that_o s._n john_n evangelist_n be_v choose_v a_o virgin_n be_v singular_o belove_v and_o special_o favour_v of_o our_o saviour_n above_o the_o rest_n for_o his_o virginity_n 29._o and_o whereas_o jovinian_a also_o urge_v the_o supreme_a dignity_n of_o s._n peter_n as_o that_o the_o church_n be_v found_v upon_o he_o be_v a_o marry_a man_n and_o not_o upon_o s._n john_n who_o be_v a_o virgin_n wherein_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o jovinian_a seek_v to_o fortify_v his_o heresy_n by_o a_o argument_n draw_v from_o a_o point_n of_o know_a catholic_a doctrine_n s._n hierome_n be_v so_o far_o from_o deny_v the_o church_n to_o be_v found_v on_o peter_n that_o he_o notable_o confirm_v it_o declare_v that_o peter_n be_v make_v thereby_o head_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o have_v teach_v that_o the_o church_n be_v also_o found_v equal_o upon_o all_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o sense_n that_o i_o have_v declare_v he_o give_v a_o reason_n not_o only_o why_o s._n peter_n be_v make_v head_n of_o the_o rest_n to_o wit_n to_o take_v away_o the_o occasion_n of_o schism_n but_o also_o why_o he_o be_v a_o marry_a man_n be_v endow_v with_o that_o power_n and_o dignity_n rather_o than_o s._n john_n who_o be_v a_o virgin_n whereof_o he_o yield_v this_o probable_a reason_n that_o respect_n be_v have_v to_o the_o age_n of_o they_o both_o because_o peter_n be_v a_o man_n of_o year_n and_o john_n very_o young_a and_o therefore_o to_o avoid_v murmuration_n against_o john_n himself_o which_o will_v have_v happen_v in_o case_n he_o be_v the_o young_a of_o they_o all_o shall_v have_v be_v make_v their_o head_n peter_n be_v worthy_o prefer_v before_o he_o joâ—n_n this_o be_v brief_o the_o substance_n of_o s._n hieromes_n discourse_n in_o that_o place_n whereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o notable_o confirm_v our_o catholic_a doctrine_n concern_v the_o supremacy_n of_o s._n peter_n acknowledge_v he_o to_o be_v make_v the_o head_n as_o well_o of_o s._n john_n as_o of_o all_o the_o rest_n 30._o and_o to_o the_o end_n that_o m._n andrews_n may_v evident_o see_v that_o s._n hierome_n do_v not_o impugn_v or_o disallow_v this_o proposition_n the_o church_n be_v found_v upon_o peter_n but_o reject_v only_o the_o false_a consequent_a that_o jovinian_a draw_v thereon_o against_o the_o merit_n of_o virginity_n i_o wish_v he_o to_o read_v s._n hieromes_n commentary_n upon_o the_o 16._o chapter_n of_o s._n matthew_n and_o particular_o upon_o these_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n super_fw-la hanc_fw-la petrâ—m_fw-la aedifiâ—abo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la meam_fw-la etc._n etc._n upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o buyld_v my_o church_n etc._n etc._n where_o he_o shall_v see_v that_o the_o proposition_n which_o jovinian_a object_v matth._n be_v also_o the_o clear_a and_o express_v doctrine_n of_o s._n hierome_n who_o say_v thus_o in_o the_o person_n of_o our_o saviour_n to_o s._n peter_n because_o thou_o simon_n have_v say_v to_o i_o thou_o be_v christ_n the_o son_n of_o god_n wordâ—_n i_o also_o say_v to_o thou_o not_o with_o a_o vain_a or_o idle_a speech_n that_o have_v no_o operation_n or_o effect_n sed_fw-la quia_fw-la meum_fw-la dixisse_fw-la fecisse_fw-la est_fw-la but_o because_o my_o say_n be_v a_o do_v or_o make_v therefore_o i_o say_v unto_o thou_o thou_o be_v peter_n or_o a_o rock_n and_o upon_o this_o rock_n i_o will_v buyld_v my_o church_n as_o christ_n be_v himself_o the_o light_n grant_v to_o his_o disciple_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v call_v the_o light_n of_o the_o world_n so_o to_o simon_n who_o believe_v in_o christ_n the_o rock_n he_o give_v the_o name_n of_o peter_n that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o rock_n and_o according_a to_o the_o metaphor_n of_o a_o rock_n it_o be_v true_o say_v to_o he_o i_o will_v buyld_v my_o church_n upon_o thou_o 31._o thus_o far_o saint_n hierome_n teach_v express_o that_o christ_n build_v his_o church_n upon_o peter_n 54._o which_o also_o he_o teach_v in_o diverse_a other_o place_n as_o in_o a_o epistle_n to_o marcelia_n where_o he_o
in_o general_a beside_o that_o be_v make_v with_o the_o pope_n consent_n it_o be_v not_o any_o way_n preiudicall_a to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a the_o three_o that_o m._n andrews_n iugle_v notable_o with_o his_o reader_n when_o he_o say_v as_o out_o of_o s._n augustine_n father_n ad_fw-la eum_fw-la transmarinus_fw-la nemo_fw-la appellet_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o he_o that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n let_v no_o man_n appeal_v from_o beyond_o the_o sea_n or_o if_o he_o appeal_v he_o be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o augustine_n for_o neither_o those_o word_n nor_o the_o sense_n thereof_o be_v to_o be_v find_v any_o where_o in_o s._n augustine_n who_o as_o you_o have_v see_v express_o teach_v and_o practise_v the_o contrary_n so_o that_o transmarinus_fw-la nemo_fw-la be_v set_v down_o by_o m._n andrews_n in_o a_o different_a letter_n to_o be_v note_v be_v indeed_o worth_a the_o note_n for_o a_o notable_a falsity_n and_o a_o flat_a corruption_n 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the_o letter_n of_o celestinus_fw-la to_o 17._o cyrillus_n to_o who_o he_o write_v thus_o adiuncta_fw-la tibi_fw-la nostrae_fw-la sedis_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la ipse_fw-la qui_fw-la vice_fw-la nostra_fw-la potestateque_fw-la fungeris_fw-la etc._n etc._n thou_o which_o hold_v our_o place_n and_o power_n the_o authority_n of_o our_o seat_n concur_v with_o thou_o shall_v with_o all_o everity_n pronounce_v this_o sentence_n against_o nestorius_n that_o if_o within_o 10._o day_n after_o this_o admonition_n he_o do_v not_o detest_v and_o renounce_v his_o wicked_a doctrine_n etc._n etc._n thou_o shall_v provide_v his_o church_n of_o a_o pastor_n and_o he_o shall_v understand_v that_o he_o be_v exclude_v from_o our_o communion_n etc._n etc._n 82._o thus_o write_v celestinus_fw-la to_o cyril_n who_o therefore_o in_o his_o 14._o letter_n to_o nestorius_n signify_v unto_o he_o that_o if_o he_o do_v not_o recant_v and_o reform_v his_o error_n within_o the_o time_n limit_v and_o prescrybed_n by_o 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augustine_n to_o pope_n bonifacius_n be_v so_o far_o from_o have_v any_o aversion_n or_o alienation_n from_o he_o and_o much_o more_o from_o presume_a to_o cure_v any_o disease_n in_o he_o that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o correct_v any_o error_n in_o his_o person_n or_o government_n that_o he_o show_v all_o dutiful_a love_n and_o reverend_a affection_n towards_o he_o give_v notable_a testimony_n to_o his_o rare_a virtue_n &_o sanctity_n and_o not_o only_o acknowledge_v the_o dignity_n of_o his_o seat_n but_o also_o submit_v himself_o and_o his_o work_n to_o his_o censure_n and_o judgement_n to_o be_v examine_v correct_v and_o amend_v by_o he_o as_o he_o shall_v see_v cause_n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o s._n augustine_n live_v in_o perfect_a union_n with_o pope_n bonifacius_n 87._o and_o in_o what_o term_n he_o stand_v with_o pope_n celestinus_fw-la though_o we_o may_v gather_v it_o sufficient_o by_o his_o own_o letter_n seq_n before_o mention_v concern_v the_o bishop_n of_o fussula_n yet_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v amiss_o to_o understand_v it_o also_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o celestinus_fw-la himself_o it_o be_v therefore_o to_o be_v understand_v that_o s._n augustine_n die_v in_o the_o time_n of_o pope_n celestinus_fw-la and_o his_o work_n especial_o those_o against_o the_o pelagian_n be_v by_o their_o practice_n much_o impugn_a and_o defame_v in_o france_n s._n prosper_v who_o have_v be_v a_o disciple_n as_o i_o have_v say_v before_o of_o s._n augustine_n and_o be_v then_o bishop_n of_o aquitane_n go_v purposely_o to_o rome_n together_o with_o hilarlus_fw-la bishop_n of_o arles_n to_o complain_v thereof_o &_o to_o procure_v the_o letter_n of_o pope_n celestinus_fw-la in_o iustifycation_n of_o he_o and_o his_o work_n whereupon_o celestinus_fw-la write_v a_o general_a letter_n to_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o france_n as_o well_o in_o defence_n of_o s._n augustine_n as_o in_o condemnation_n of_o the_o pelagian_n and_o among_o other_o thing_n say_v of_o s._n augustine_n thus_o 42._o augustinum_n
acknowledge_v by_o all_o man_n to_o be_v s._n chrysostom_n work_n so_o that_o there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o the_o word_n allege_v by_o the_o cardinal_n be_v s._n chrysostom_n and_o do_v correspond_v to_o the_o greek_a text_n word_n for_o word_n in_o which_o respect_n the_o testimony_n can_v be_v avoid_v and_o shift_v of_o by_o m._n andrews_n as_o either_o corrupt_a or_o counterfeit_a 50._o and_o this_o as_o it_o seem_v he_o know_v well_o enough_o and_o therefore_o devyse_v another_o shift_n seem_v to_o admit_v that_o s._n chrysostome_n do_v say_v so_o supra_fw-la and_o yet_o deny_v that_o it_o make_v for_o us._n for_o non_fw-la quid_fw-la fecerit_fw-la say_v he_o tum_fw-la aliquis_fw-la sed_fw-la quid_fw-la ex_fw-la patrum_fw-la statuto_fw-la fecerit_fw-la &c_n &c_n the_o king_n demand_v not_o what_o some_o man_n do_v then_o truth_n but_o what_o he_o do_v according_a to_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o father_n and_o what_o at_o that_o time_n the_o father_n decree_v concern_v 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of_o the_o king_n of_o the_o world_n and_o this_o be_v not_o only_o see_v at_o rome_n but_o also_o at_o constantinople_n for_o even_o here_o the_o son_n of_o constantine_n the_o great_a think_v his_o father_n to_o be_v much_o honour_v if_o his_o body_n be_v lay_v before_o the_o gate_n of_o the_o fisher._n thus_o say_v s._n chrysostome_n with_o much_o more_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n which_o i_o omit_v 52._o for_o by_o this_o it_o appear_v sufficient_o first_o that_o the_o custom_n and_o practice_v of_o prayer_n to_o saint_n be_v universal_a i_o mean_v both_o in_o the_o latin_a and_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n in_o the_o time_n of_o s._n chrysostome_n which_o he_o signify_v express_o by_o name_v the_o two_o principal_a city_n and_o imperial_a seat_n to_o wit_n rome_n and_o constantinople_n where_o the_o same_o be_v in_o ure_n second_o it_o appear_v that_o it_o be_v not_o practise_v only_o by_o some_o obscure_a person_n as_o m._n andrews_n seem_v to_o insinuate_v when_o he_o say_v that_o the_o question_n be_v not_o quid_fw-la aliquis_fw-la tum_fw-la fecerit_fw-la what_o some_o man_n do_v then_o but_o that_o it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o most_o worthy_a divinity_n and_o remarkable_a person_n to_o wit_n the_o most_o christian_n and_o catholic_a emperor_n themselves_o three_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o this_o place_n that_o s._n chrysostome_n hygh_o approve_v this_o custom_n and_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v most_o necessary_a and_o conform_v to_o the_o christian_a and_o catholyke_n verity_n see_v he_o do_v notable_o urge_v and_o exaggerate_v the_o same_o for_o the_o instruction_n and_o edification_n of_o the_o people_n to_o show_v unto_o they_o not_o only_o the_o great_a dignity_n and_o glory_n of_o god_n servant_n and_o saint_n but_o also_o the_o omnipotent_a power_n and_o divinity_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ._n 53._o whereupon_o it_o also_o follow_v that_o m._n andrew_n and_o other_o who_o deny_v this_o article_n of_o catholic_a religion_n do_v deny_v a_o notable_a 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the_o cardinal_n undertake_v to_o prove_v any_o such_o thing_n neither_o be_v it_o material_a for_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n whether_o it_o be_v of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n or_o no._n 54._o the_o cardinal_n undertake_v only_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o protestans_fw-la reject_v prayer_n to_o saint_n be_v not_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o old_a primitive_a church_n which_o he_o promise_v to_o prove_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o 400._o or_o 500_o year_n as_o it_o appear_v express_o by_o his_o own_o word_n soquitur_fw-la say_v he_o ut_fw-la ostendamus_fw-la fidem_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o follow_v that_o we_o show_v the_o faith_n which_o the_o king_n defend_v not_o to_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o old_a and_o primitive_a church_n etc._n etc._n sequituâ—_fw-la and_o again_o a_o little_a after_o have_v signify_v that_o his_o majesty_n in_o his_o preface_n admit_v the_o 3._o creed_n the_o 4._o first_o general_n counsel_n and_o the_o uniform_a doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o 400._o or_o as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o english_a copy_n 500_o year_n he_o declare_v that_o among_o other_o point_n of_o catholic_a religion_n his_o majesty_n condemn_v prayer_n to_o saint_n and_o the_o veneration_n of_o relic_n as_o superstitious_a whereupon_o the_o cardinal_n say_v accipiam_fw-la intercessionem_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o will_v take_v in_o hand_n the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n with_o the_o veneration_n of_o relic_n which_o if_o i_o can_v show_v to_o be_v approve_v by_o a_o unanime_fw-la consent_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o 400._o or_o 500_o year_n accipiam_fw-la i_o shall_v withal_o prove_v that_o the_o king_n of_o england_n faith_n be_v not_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o old_a &_o primitive_a church_n but_o the_o devyse_n &_o heresy_n of_o late_a innovatour_n thus_o say_v the_o cardinal_n without_o touch_v any_o way_n the_o question_n whether_o prayer_n to_o saint_n be_v 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allege_v s._n augustine_n lactantius_n and_o s._n bernard_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o just_a be_v reserve_v in_o certain_a receptacle_n sanct._n and_o secret_a place_n where_o they_o have_v not_o the_o perfect_a vision_n of_o god_n until_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o say_v any_o thing_n thereto_o as_o well_o because_o it_o will_v avayle_v he_o nothing_o as_o you_o see_v though_o s._n augustine_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n have_v be_v of_o that_o opinion_n see_v that_o even_o there_o i_o mean_v in_o those_o receptacle_n the_o saint_n may_v know_v our_o prayer_n by_o angel_n or_o by_o divine_a revelation_n according_a to_o s._n augustine_n doctrine_n as_o also_o because_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o not_o only_a s._n augustine_n but_o also_o all_o the_o father_n both_o greek_a and_o latin_a except_o 3._o to_o wit_n tertullian_n lactantius_n and_o victorinus_n do_v teach_v that_o the_o saint_n do_v already_o enjoy_v the_o vision_n of_o god_n though_o not_o in_o that_o perfection_n and_o consummation_n of_o their_o beatitude_n which_o they_o shall_v have_v after_o the_o resurrection_n and_o glorification_n of_o the_o body_n as_o m._n andrews_n may_v see_v if_o it_o please_v he_o in_o the_o controversy_n of_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n who_o allege_v to_o this_o purpose_n 36._o father_n of_o the_o greek_a 1._o and_o latin_a church_n and_o answer_v particular_o those_o very_a place_n which_o m._n andrews_n quote_v in_o his_o margin_n and_o all_o other_o place_n and_o authoritye_n which_o be_v common_o object_v against_o our_o catholic_a doctrine_n in_o this_o point_n so_o as_o in_o fine_a m._n andrew_n prove_v nothing_o at_o all_o against_o we_o by_o this_o objection_n 48._o and_o whereas_o he_o say_v also_o by_o the_o way_n that_o the_o saint_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v invocate_v albeit_o they_o can_v hear_v we_o because_o there_o be_v no_o precept_n of_o it_o i_o forbear_v to_o give_v any_o full_a 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therefore_o in_o m._n andrews_n his_o opinion_n no_o such_o adoration_n be_v lawful_a for_o nec_fw-la est_fw-la say_v he_o angelorum_fw-la ratio_fw-la alia_fw-la alia_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o in_o this_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o adoration_n of_o angel_n and_o of_o saint_n of_o holy_a menâ—_n neither_o be_v there_o more_o respect_n to_o be_v have_v to_o relic_n they_o to_o those_o who_o relic_n they_o be_v so_o he_o not_o admit_v as_o you_o â—ee_o any_o adoration_n of_o angel_n or_o saint_n though_o it_o be_v not_o mean_v thereby_o to_o exhibit_v divine_a honour_n unto_o they_o but_o only_o to_o do_v a_o act_n of_o veneration_n reverence_n or_o religioê°_n worship_n and_o why_o many_o forsooth_o because_o the_o angel_n will_v not_o suffer_v s._n john_n the_o apostle_n to_o adore_v he_o in_o that_o manner_n 12._o wherein_o two_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v note_v the_o one_o what_o a_o poor_a conceit_n m._n andrews_n have_v of_o s._n john_n who_o he_o 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and_o reverence_n to_o s._n john_n as_o to_o the_o most_o worthy_a and_o belove_a apostle_n of_o christ_n who_o be_v lord_n and_o master_n to_o they_o both_o and_o therefore_o acknowledge_v himself_o to_o be_v no_o other_o but_o conseruum_fw-la apoc._n as_o he_o say_v a_o fellow_n servant_n of_o s._n john_n he_o will_v not_o permit_v he_o to_o do_v he_o that_o honour_n but_o bid_v he_o do_v it_o to_o god_n beside_o that_o s._n gregory_n the_o great_a beda_n anselmus_n richardus_fw-la de_fw-fr s._n victore_fw-la and_o rupertus_n do_v give_v also_o another_o reason_n thereof_o to_o wit_n that_o the_o angel_n bare_a respect_n even_o to_o humane_a nature_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o humanity_n of_o our_o saviour_n hinc_fw-la est_fw-la sai_z s._n gregory_n quòd_fw-la lot_n &_o josue_n angelos_n ipsis_fw-la non_fw-la prohibentibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n supra_fw-la for_o this_o cause_n lot_n and_o josue_n adore_v angel_n and_o be_v not_o forbid_v by_o they_o but_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o apocalips_n meaning_n to_o adore_v a_o angel_n be_v by_o he_o forbid_v to_o do_v it_o so_o he_o signify_v how_o much_o the_o angel_n respect_v humane_a nature_n after_o the_o incarnation_n of_o our_o saviour_n more_o than_o before_o 13._o but_o for_o the_o further_a satisfaction_n and_o instruction_n of_o the_o unlearned_a reader_n in_o this_o point_n scripture_n he_o be_v to_o understand_v that_o there_o be_v three_o kind_n of_o adoration_n specify_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n the_o first_o be_v that_o which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o and_o be_v call_v by_o divine_v adoratio_fw-la latriae_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o adoration_n or_o exterior_a worship_n exhibit_v by_o some_o corporal_a reverence_n and_o submission_n to_o acknowledge_v our_o duty_n and_o service_n to_o god_n as_o he_o be_v our_o creator_n conseruatour_n and_o chief_a good_a and_o this_o adoration_n be_v so_o due_a proper_a unto_o god_n alone_o that_o it_o be_v idolatry_n to_o exhibit_v the_o same_o unto_o any_o creature_n of_o this_o kind_a the_o scripture_n speak_v when_o it_o say_v 4._o dominum_fw-la deum_fw-la tuum_fw-la adorabis_fw-la &_o illi_fw-la soli_fw-la seruies_fw-la thou_o shall_v adore_v thy_o lord_n god_n and_o serve_v he_o alone_o also_o non_fw-la 20._o adorabis_fw-la ea_fw-la neque_fw-la coal_n thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v nor_o worship_v they_o that_o be_v to_o say_v idol_n non_fw-la 23._o adorabis_fw-la deos_fw-la eorum_fw-la thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v â—heir_o go_n 47_o adoravit_fw-la irael_n dominum_fw-la israel_n adore_v our_o lord_n 7._o gedeon_n adoravit_fw-la &_o reversus_fw-la est_fw-la gedeon_n adore_v and_o return_v 4._o very_fw-la adoratores_fw-la adorabunt_fw-la patrem_fw-la in_o spiritu_fw-la &_o veritate_fw-la the_o true_a adorer_n or_o worshipper_n shall_v adore_v my_o father_n in_o spirit_n and_o truth_n and_o the_o like_a occur_v in_o infinite_a other_o place_n as_o well_o of_o the_o new_a as_o the_o old_a testament_n 14â—_n the_o second_o kind_n of_o adoration_n though_o it_o be_v inferior_a to_o this_o yet_o be_v also_o a_o act_n of_o religion_n exhibit_v in_o like_a manner_n exterior_o to_o angel_n saint_n or_o holy_a man_n as_o to_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n and_o for_o the_o honour_n and_o love_n of_o he_o of_o which_o kind_n many_o example_n be_v set_v down_o in_o holy_a scripture_n as_o of_o 18._o abraham_n 19â—_n loâ—_n and_o 22._o balaam_n who_o adore_v angel_n prostrate_v upon_o the_o ground_n and_o of_o 5._o josue_n who_o fall_v down_o prostrate_a before_o a_o angel_n &_o adorans_fw-la ait_fw-la quid_fw-la dominus_fw-la meus_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o adore_v say_v why_o do_v my_o lord_n speak_v unto_o his_o servant_n and_o so_o far_o be_v the_o angel_n from_o reprehend_v he_o that_o he_o make_v he_o do_v more_o reverence_n command_v he_o to_o put_v of_o his_o shoe_n because_o the_o place_n be_v holy_a wherein_o he_o stand_v which_o place_n no_o
do_v ask_v the_o bishop_n with_o great_a reason_n whether_o he_o agree_v with_o the_o roman_a church_n sciebat_fw-la enim_fw-la episcopum_fw-la tum_fw-la romae_fw-la catholicum_fw-la for_o he_o know_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n then_o be_v a_o catholic_a so_o he_o wherein_o he_o grant_v consequent_o that_o the_o pope_n be_v supreme_a and_o universal_a pastor_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n affert_fw-la for_o that_o must_v needs_o follow_v of_o his_o grant_n see_v it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o who_o then_o be_v bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o who_o he_o allow_v for_o catholic_a have_v and_o exercise_v a_o supreme_a and_o universal_a authority_n to_o which_o purpose_n it_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v who_o be_v bishop_n of_o rome_n at_o that_o time_n whereto_o m._n andrew_n himself_o give_v we_o no_o small_a light_n signify_v present_o after_o that_o liberius_n be_v bishop_n a_o little_a before_o he_o and_o sure_o it_o be_v that_o damasus_n succeed_v liberius_n and_o reygn_v many_o 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authority_n of_o 3._o ancient_a father_n to_o wit_n sympronian_n pacianus_n 18._o s._n cyrill_n and_o â—â—_o s._n augustine_n that_o the_o name_n catholic_a be_v a_o most_o true_a and_o proper_a note_n of_o the_o true_a church_n and_o that_o it_o can_v never_o be_v usurp_v by_o heretic_n yea_o and_o that_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o namely_o in_o the_o apology_n for_o the_o oath_n do_v so_o call_v we_o quae_fw-la and_o distinguish_v we_o from_o themselves_o by_o that_o name_n and_o do_v consequent_o acknowledge_v we_o to_o be_v member_n of_o the_o true_a church_n whereto_o m._n andrews_n answer_v thus_o nam_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o extrema_fw-la pagina_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o as_o for_o those_o thing_n which_o the_o cardinal_n write_v in_o the_o last_o page_n of_o his_o former_a book_n and_o will_v glad_o have_v his_o reader_n to_o see_v fatemur_fw-la omne_fw-la we_o grant_v and_o acknowledge_v they_o all_o so_o he_o whereby_o he_o grant_v that_o we_o be_v call_v catholik_o even_o by_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o have_v the_o true_a sign_n &_o note_n of_o the_o true_a church_n and_o be_v therefore_o true_a member_n thereof_o and_o that_o he_o and_o his_o fellow_n who_o have_v not_o the_o same_o note_n be_v heretic_n or_o schismatic_o for_o this_o be_v in_o effect_n the_o argument_n of_o the_o cardinal_n ground_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o father_n aforesaid_a which_o you_o see_v m._n andrews_n grant_v say_v fatemur_fw-la omne_fw-la supra_fw-la 33._o and_o albeit_o he_o seek_v present_o a_o evasion_n by_o a_o distinction_n yet_o it_o help_v he_o nothing_o for_o thus_o he_o say_v nec_fw-la de_fw-la nominis_fw-la honore_fw-la lie_fw-la ulla_fw-la sed_fw-la utri_fw-la è_fw-la re_fw-la magis_fw-la nomen_fw-la habeant_fw-la nothing_o neither_o be_v there_o any_o contention_n betwixt_o we_o about_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o name_n but_o whether_o of_o both_o have_v the_o name_n derive_v from_o the_o thing_n so_o he_o allow_v we_o as_o you_o see_v the_o 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thing_n express_v by_o the_o name_n and_o so_o in_o conclusion_n with_o his_o fatemur_fw-la omne_fw-la he_o acknowledge_v we_o for_o true_a catholic_n and_o himself_o and_o his_o fellow_n for_o heretic_n 19_o and_o therefore_o i_o may_v well_o say_v unto_o he_o with_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o gospel_n ex_fw-la ore_fw-la tuo_fw-la te_fw-la iudico_fw-la serve_v nequam_fw-la 35._o and_o the_o like_v i_o may_v also_o say_v concern_v his_o grant_n in_o another_o matter_n nostr_n to_o wit_n that_o our_o bishop_n be_v true_a bishop_n and_o that_o the_o protestant_a bishop_n of_o england_n have_v their_o ordination_n from_o we_o yea_o from_o 3._o of_o we_o for_o so_o he_o give_v to_o understand_v whereupon_o he_o also_o infer_v that_o he_o and_o his_o fellow_n superintendents_n have_v a_o true_a ordination_n and_o succession_n from_o the_o catholic_a church_n whereas_o the_o quite_o contrary_a follow_v upon_o his_o grant_n for_o if_o our_o bishop_n be_v true_a bishop_n as_o have_v a_o true_a 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some_o of_o they_o bishop_n after_o the_o catholic_a manner_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o a_o little_a after_o whereas_o it_o be_v say_v thus_o see_v the_o irish_a bishop_n will_v not_o perform_v his_o promise_n they_o resolve_v to_o ordain_v themselves_o &c._n &c._n there_o want_v also_o these_o word_n consâ—â—t_n nor_o the_o welsh_a bishop_n which_o word_n be_v to_o be_v add_v thuss_n see_v the_o irish_a bishop_n will_v not_o consent_v nor_o the_o welsh_a bishop_n perform_v his_o promise_n they_o resolve_v to_o ordain_v themselves_o thus_o i_o say_v it_o shall_v be_v correct_v 36._o whereby_o it_o may_v evident_o appear_v what_o a_o beggarly_a church_n and_o clergy_n they_o then_o have_v england_n and_o still_o have_v for_o have_v then_o not_o so_o much_o as_o any_o pretend_a archbishop_n or_o bishop_n of_o their_o own_o profession_n they_o be_v force_v to_o beg_v their_o consecration_n even_o of_o the_o catholic_n their_o adversary_n and_o have_v solicit_v a_o archbishop_n in_o vain_a and_o be_v out_o of_o hope_n to_o have_v the_o consent_n of_o a_o metropolitan_a to_o their_o ordination_n &_o much_o more_o to_o be_v consecrate_v by_o 2._o or_o 3._o bishop_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a canon_n of_o the_o church_n they_o determine_v as_o i_o may_v say_v to_o play_v small_a game_n rather_o than_o to_o sit_v forth_o be_v desirous_a to_o have_v some_o kind_n of_o ordination_n from_o any_o one_o catholic_a though_o inferior_a bishop_n yea_o and_o in_o fine_o they_o seek_v to_o have_v it_o from_o such_o a_o one_o as_o be_v hold_v to_o be_v the_o simple_a man_n that_o then_o be_v or_o perhaps_o ever_o have_v be_v of_o the_o english_a clergy_n for_o so_o indeed_o be_v esteem_v the_o bishop_n of_o landâ—â—â—_n who_o they_o have_v almost_o inveygle_v and_o induce_v 〈◊〉_d their_o turn_n but_o almighty_a god_n out_o of_o his_o infinite_a providence_n so_o dispose_v for_o the_o eternal_a shame_n of_o their_o pretend_a prelacy_n and_o clergy_n that_o he_o also_o in_o the_o end_n refuse_v to_o do_v it_o upon_o a_o sharp_a message_n which_o he_o receive_v from_o bishop_n â—onner_o than_o prisoner_n who_o be_v bishop_n of_o london_n and_o consequent_o chief_a bishop_n in_o the_o province_n of_o canterbury_n by_o the_o death_n of_o cardinal_n pole_n archbishop_n thereof_o send_v one_o m._n cousin_n his_o chaplain_n to_o the_o say_a bishop_n of_o landaff_n to_o threaten_v he_o with_o excommunication_n in_o case_n he_o do_v consecrate_v any_o of_o they_o whereupon_o he_o defisted_a from_o his_o purpose_n and_o they_o resolve_v to_o ordain_v and_o consecrate_v one_o another_o and_o so_o they_o do_v as_o i_o have_v signify_v in_o my_o supplement_n upon_o the_o testimony_n of_o one_o that_o be_v a_o eye-witness_n of_o what_o pass_v among_o they_o at_o their_o ordination_n 5._o to_o wit_n m.i_o thomas_n nâ—ale_n a_o graveman_n well_o know_v no_o doubt_n to_o many_o yet_o live_v in_o oxford_n where_o he_o be_v many_o year_n after_o reader_n of_o the_o hebrew_n lecture_n 37._o whereupon_o i_o infer_v two_o thing_n the_o one_o that_o they_o have_v no_o clergy_n nor_o church_n for_o haâ—ing_v no_o bishop_n they_o have_v no_o priest_n because_o none_o can_v make_v priest_n but_o bishop_n and_o have_v neither_o bishop_n 6._o nor_o priest_n they_o have_v no_o clergy_n and_o consequent_o no_o church_n as_o i_o have_v show_v in_o my_o supplement_n out_o of_o s._n hierome_n lucifer_n the_o other_o be_v that_o m._n andrew_n and_o his_o fellow_n be_v neither_o true_a bishop_n nor_o have_v any_o succession_n from_o the_o catholic_a church_n as_o he_o say_v they_o have_v noâ—_n yet_o any_o lawful_a mission_n or_o vocationâ—_n and_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o those_o good_a shepherd_n which_o as_o our_o saviour_n say_v enter_v into_o the_o fold_n by_o the_o door_n 10._o but_o fures_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d thief_n and_o robbersâ—_n who_o climb_v up_o another_o way_n or_o break_v into_o it_o by_o intrusion_n and_o force_n ut_fw-la mactent_fw-la â—â—â—â—rdant_a to_o kill_v and_o destroy_v the_o flock_n and_o so_o they_o be_v rot_v buy_v break_v of_o from_o the_o may_v nâ—_n root_v of_o christian_a society_n and_o consequent_o heretic_n and_o schismatics_n as_o well_o by_o m._n barlowes_n ground_n before_o seq_n mention_v as_o according_a to_o m._n andrew_n his_o own_o grant_n else_o let_v he_o name_n unto_o we_o those_o 3._o catholic_a bishop_n who_o as_o he_o say_v consecrate_v their_o first_o bishop_n at_o the_o change_n of_o religion_n in_o queen_n elizabeth_n time_n 19_o which_o i_o know_v he_o can_v do_v and_o therefore_o i_o conclude_v of_o he_o in_o this_o point_n as_o i_o do_v in_o the_o last_o ex_fw-la ore_fw-la tuo_fw-la te_fw-la iudico_fw-la 38._o and_o this_o true_o may_v suffice_v to_o show_v how_o he_o fortify_v our_o cause_n and_o overthrow_v his_o own_o but_o that_o beside_o diverse_a other_o point_n which_o i_o may_v handle_v to_o this_o purpose_n and_o be_o force_v to_o omit_v for_o lack_v of_o time_n there_o 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have_v these_o word_n petrus_n super_fw-la quem_fw-la dominus_fw-la fundavit_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la etc._n etc._n peter_n upon_o who_o our_o lord_n found_v his_o church_n and_o in_o another_o epistle_n to_o pope_n damasus_n he_o affirm_v the_o same_o not_o only_o of_o he_o but_o also_o of_o the_o chair_n of_o peter_n say_v ego_fw-la nullum_fw-la primum_fw-la nisi_fw-la christum_fw-la sequens_fw-la beatitudini_fw-la tuus_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la cathedrae_fw-la petri_n 5â—_n communione_fw-la consocior_fw-la super_fw-la illam_fw-la petram_fw-la aedificatam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la scio_fw-la i_o follow_v no_o first_o or_o chief_a but_o christ_n joviâ—_n do_v communicate_v with_o thy_o beatitude_n that_o be_v to_o say_v with_o the_o chair_n of_o peter_n upon_o that_o rock_n i_o know_v the_o church_n be_v build_v final_o in_o the_o self_n same_o book_n against_o jovinian_a where_o he_o answer_v the_o former_a objection_n he_o call_v s._n peter_n petram_fw-la christi_fw-la the_o rock_n of_o christ_n say_v o_o vox_fw-la digna_fw-la apostolo_n &_o petra_n christi_n o_o speech_n worthy_a of_o a_o apostle_n and_o the_o rock_n of_o christ_n signify_v thereby_o that_o s._n peter_n be_v the_o rock_n whereupon_o christ_n build_v his_o church_n 32._o so_o as_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v that_o s._n hierome_n both_o firm_o believe_v and_o express_o teach_v that_o our_o saviour_n build_v his_o church_n upon_o peter_n wherein_o you_o have_v already_o sequent_a see_v that_o he_o agree_v with_o s._n cyprian_n who_o write_v long_o before_o he_o and_o with_o the_o whole_a council_n of_o chalcedon_n which_o call_v s._n peter_n petram_fw-la &_o crepidinem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la 76._o the_o rock_n and_o top_n of_o the_o church_n and_o rectae_fw-la fidoi_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la the_o foundation_n of_o the_o true_a faith_n beside_o that_o you_o may_v also_o see_v in_o cardinal_n beauties_n controversye_n 10._o that_o he_o agree_v therein_o with_o origen_n s._n athanasius_n saint_n basil_n s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n s._n epiphanius_n s._n chrysostome_n s._n cyril_n tertullian_n s._n hilary_n s._n ambrose_n s._n maximus_n s._n leo_n s._n gregory_n the_o great_a and_o other_o learned_a father_n 33._o whereupon_o it_o follow_v that_o jovinian_a do_v not_o object_v the_o same_o as_o his_o own_o singular_a opinion_n which_o he_o know_v well_o will_v be_v little_o esteem_v and_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v and_o not_o object_v but_o as_o a_o matter_n general_o acknowledge_v by_o catholic_n and_o that_o therefore_o he_o only_o seek_v to_o draw_v some_o consequence_n out_o of_o it_o as_o out_o of_o a_o know_a principle_n of_o the_o catholic_a faith_n for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o his_o heresy_n clergy_n as_o all_o heretic_n do_v also_o seek_v to_o do_v the_o like_a not_o only_o out_o of_o catholic_a opinion_n but_o also_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n itself_o what_o then_o may_v we_o think_v of_o m._n andrews_n who_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o tax_v the_o cardinal_n as_o a_o follower_n of_o jovinian_a for_o teach_v that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v upon_o peter_n can_v we_o think_v that_o he_o have_v any_o conscience_n or_o care_n of_o what_o he_o say_v especial_o see_v that_o he_o himself_o be_v a_o true_a scholar_n and_o follower_n of_o jovinian_a except_o he_o dissent_v not_o only_o from_o luther_n calvin_n and_o other_o archsectary_n his_o great_a master_n but_o also_o from_o his_o brethren_n of_o the_o present_a english_a church_n 34._o 7._o for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o they_o all_o hold_v and_o teach_v that_o marriage_n be_v of_o equal_a merit_n with_o virginity_n and_o viduall_a continency_n which_o be_v the_o proper_a heresy_n of_o jovinian_a condemn_v for_o such_o in_o his_o own_o time_n first_o by_o pope_n siricius_n jovinian_a and_o a_o synod_n of_o bishop_n hold_v at_o rome_n and_o afterward_o by_o another_o synod_n hold_v at_o milan_n where_o s._n ambrose_n be_v present_a beside_o that_o the_o same_o be_v learned_o impugn_a virginit_fw-la and_o clear_o confute_v by_o s._n hierome_n in_o his_o book_n write_v purposely_o against_o he_o as_o also_o by_o s._n augustine_n in_o his_o treatise_n the_o bono_n coniugali_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr virginitate_fw-la which_o he_o write_v express_o for_o the_o confutation_n of_o that_o heresy_n 23._o as_o he_o testify_v himself_o in_o his_o retractation_n where_o he_o call_v jovinian_a a_o monster_n for_o teach_v that_o doctrine_n and_o register_v he_o for_o a_o hereâ—tike_a in_o his_o tract_n and_o catalogue_n of_o heresye_n as_o well_o for_o that_o opinion_n 82._o as_o for_o impugn_v the_o custom_n and_o use_v of_o the_o catholic_a church_n in_o fast_v and_o abstinence_n from_o certain_a meat_n wherein_o also_o the_o forename_a sectary_n of_o our_o day_n and_o the_o english_a church_n at_o this_o present_a and_o consequent_o m._n andrews_n himself_o except_o he_o will_v disclaim_v from_o all_o his_o brethren_n do_v follow_v jovinian_a whereto_o i_o may_v add_v other_o heresye_n of_o his_o teach_v by_o many_o archsectary_n of_o our_o time_n wherein_o temp_n it_o may_v be_v m._n andrew_n have_v his_o share_n among_o the_o rest_n as_o that_o merit_n and_o reward_n of_o the_o lust_n be_v equal_a and_o that_o the_o corporal_a virginity_n and_o integrity_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n mary_n be_v corrupt_v and_o lose_v by_o the_o birth_n of_o our_o saviour_n 35._o all_o which_o opinion_n be_v heresye_n of_o jovinian_a and_o register_v for_o such_o by_o s._n augustine_n 82._o have_v be_v revyue_v in_o these_o our_o day_n partly_o by_o luther_n and_o calvin_n and_o partly_o by_o the_o magdeburgenses_n bucer_n molinaeus_n and_o other_o 9_o as_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n show_v out_o of_o their_o own_o work_n in_o his_o controversy_n therefore_o i_o remit_v it_o now_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o indifferent_a reader_n who_o be_v the_o follower_n of_o jovinian_a the_o cardinal_n or_o m._n andrew_n and_o his_o fellow_n see_v that_o the_o cardinal_n hold_v nothing_o else_o with_o jovinian_a but_o only_o that_o catholic_a doctrine_n which_o jovinian_a hold_v and_o profess_v together_o with_o s._n hierome_n and_o all_o other_o father_n of_o his_o time_n as_o all_o heretic_n have_v always_o agree_v with_o catholic_n in_o some_o point_n and_o condemn_v all_o those_o heresye_n whâ—ch_v the_o father_n aforesaid_a and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o their_o time_n condemn_v in_o he_o and_o his_o follower_n whereas_o m._n andrews_n and_o his_o fellow_n express_o profess_v and_o teach_v those_o very_a heresye_n for_o thâ—_n which_o jovinian_a and_o his_o follower_n be_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n censure_v and_o condemn_v as_o monstrous_a heretic_n as_o have_v be_v before_o declare_v so_o that_o i_o think_v of_o this_o there_o can_v be_v no_o further_o controversy_n examine_v 36._o now_o then_o let_v we_o proceed_v with_o the_o examination_n of_o what_o he_o say_v further_a to_o the_o place_n of_o s._n hierome_n allege_v by_o the_o cardinal_n which_o be_v this_o propterea_fw-la inter_fw-la duodecim_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o among_o twelve_o one_o be_v chosen'_n that_o a_o head_n be_v appoint_v the_o occasion_n of_o schism_n may_v be_v take_v away_o whereto_o he_o answer_v thus_o inter_fw-la duodecim_fw-la unum_fw-la eligi_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o one_o be_v choose_v among_o twelve_o or_o some_o number_n which_o some_o one_o man_n may_v be_v able_a to_o govern_v hieronymus_n and_o provyde_v for_o or_o else_o to_o take_v away_o schism_n who_o do_v forbid_v a_o head_n to_o be_v choose_v or_o so_o much_o power_n to_o be_v give_v he_o as_o may_v suffice_v for_o the_o end_n or_o purpose_n for_o the_o which_o he_o be_v ordain_v but_o the_o question_n be_v how_o far_o that_o power_n and_o that_o number_n extend_v lest_o the_o head_n become_v caput_fw-la heteroclitum_fw-la a_o extravagant_a head_n or_o a_o head_n out_o of_o course_n and_o not_o so_o much_o the_o occasion_n of_o schism_n take_v away_o answer_n as_o a_o occasion_n give_v of_o tyranny_n so_o he_o all_o which_o i_o beseech_v thou_o good_a reader_n well_o to_o note_v and_o particular_o that_o he_o grant_v these_o point_n follow_v the_o first_o that_o s._n peter_n be_v choose_v head_n of_o the_o apostle_n the_o second_o that_o a_o head_n be_v necessary_a for_o avoid_v of_o schism_n the_o three_o that_o the_o same_o head_n be_v to_o have_v as_o much_o authority_n as_o be_v convenient_a for_o the_o end_n for_o which_o he_o be_v ordain_v and_o the_o four_o that_o of_o all_o this_o there_o be_v no_o question_n for_o that_o the_o question_n be_v say_v he_o concern_v the_o power_n of_o the_o head_n how_o far_o it_o extend_v and_o how_o great_a may_v be_v the_o number_n that_o he_o be_v to_o govern_v 37._o but_o if_o m._n andrews_n consider_v well_o what_o he_o grant_v peter_n he_o may_v consequent_o decide_v the_o question_n or_o doubt_v that_o he_o make_v and_o shall_v see_v that_o he_o have_v grant_v as_o much_o in_o effect_n as_o we_o teach_v or_o demand_v conâ—cerning_v the_o authority_n of_o
doctrine_n concern_v prayer_n to_o saint_n be_v for_o that_o we_o do_v invocate_v they_o because_o in_o his_o conceit_n invocation_n be_v so_o proper_a to_o god_n alone_o that_o none_o can_v be_v invocate_v but_o he_o and_o if_o he_o do_v not_o conceive_v so_o why_o do_v he_o insist_v so_o much_o upon_o the_o word_n invocate_v yea_o and_o seek_v to_o terrify_v we_o with_o his_o terret_fw-la none_o apostolus_fw-la charge_v we_o to_o make_v light_n of_o he_o because_o we_o invocate_v they_o in_o who_o we_o believe_v not_o that_o be_v to_o say_v those_o who_o we_o do_v not_o hold_v for_o god_n 3._o but_o a_o man_n may_v wonder_v how_o this_o great_a doctor_n can_v so_o gross_o err_v in_o a_o matter_n so_o evident_a as_o this_o see_v that_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n immediate_o go_v before_o do_v manifest_o show_v that_o he_o speak_v there_o of_o a_o invocation_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o as_o to_o our_o chief_a lord_n which_o kind_n of_o invocation_n be_v not_o communicable_a to_o creature_n and_o therefore_o the_o apostle_n have_v say_v that_o god_n be_v dominus_fw-la omnium_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o lord_n of_o all_o and_o rich_a or_o bountiful_a 10._o towards_o all_o that_o invocate_v he_o he_o confirm_v it_o with_o the_o say_n of_o the_o prophet_n omnis_fw-la qui_fw-la invocaverit_fw-la nomen_fw-la domini_fw-la saluus_fw-la erit_fw-la 2._o every_o one_o that_o shall_v invocate_v the_o name_n of_o our_o lord_n shall_v be_v save_v and_o then_o he_o add_v believe_v quomodo_fw-la invocabunt_fw-la eum_fw-la in_o quem_fw-la non_fw-la crediderunt_fw-la how_o shall_v they_o invocate_v he_o in_o who_o they_o have_v not_o believe_v as_o who_o will_v say_v how_o can_v they_o invocate_v he_o of_o who_o the_o prophet_n speak_v he_o that_o be_v dominus_fw-la omnium_fw-la the_o lord_n of_o all_o except_o they_o believe_v in_o he_o that_o be_v to_o say_v except_o they_o believe_v he_o to_o be_v their_o lord_n and_o creator_n whereby_o he_o do_v not_o signify_v that_o none_o but_o god_n can_v be_v invocate_v in_o any_o sort_n but_o that_o we_o can_v invocate_v god_n as_o our_o lord_n and_o our_o god_n except_o we_o believe_v he_o so_o to_o be_v 4._o and_o this_o do_v not_o contradict_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o another_o respect_n to_o wit_n not_o as_o god_n but_o as_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n who_o he_o glorify_v and_o honour_v and_o by_o who_o intercession_n and_o mediation_n he_o bestow_v grace_n and_o favour_n upon_o man_n in_o which_o sense_n it_o may_v also_o be_v true_o say_v that_o we_o can_v invocate_v they_o or_o crave_v the_o help_n of_o their_o prayer_n except_o we_o do_v in_o some_o sort_n believe_v in_o they_o i_o mean_v so_o far_o forth_o as_o we_o invocate_v they_o that_o be_v to_o say_v except_o we_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v god_n servant_n and_o that_o we_o also_o have_v confidence_n in_o they_o as_o in_o those_o who_o by_o god_n goodness_n may_v help_v us._n so_o as_o a_o faith_n and_o belief_n in_o saint_n be_v also_o necessary_a for_o the_o invocation_n of_o they_o though_o it_o be_v not_o the_o faith_n that_o we_o have_v in_o god_n as_o in_o our_o chief_a lord_n and_o creator_n and_o that_o we_o may_v have_v faith_n in_o saint_n m._n andrew_n may_v learn_v in_o the_o apostle_n himself_o who_o commend_v the_o charity_n philem_n and_o faith_n which_o philemon_n have_v in_o domino_fw-la jesu_fw-la &_o in_o omnes_fw-la sanctos_fw-la in_o our_o lord_n jesus_n and_o in_o all_o saint_n upon_o which_o word_n s._n hierome_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o that_o epistle_n discourse_v ample_o philem_fw-la prove_v that_o we_o may_v be_v say_v to_o have_v faith_n in_o saint_n 5._o therefore_o m._n andrew_n be_v to_o understand_v for_o the_o full_a answer_n of_o his_o objection_n that_o as_o there_o be_v a_o honour_n and_o glory_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n only_o as_o the_o apostle_n witness_v 1._o say_v soli_fw-la deo_fw-la honour_n &_o gloria_fw-la honour_n and_o glory_n be_v to_o god_n alone_o and_o another_o due_n to_o creature_n whereof_o the_o same_o apostle_n also_o say_v 2._o gloria_fw-la honour_n &_o pax_fw-la omni_fw-la operanti_fw-la bonum_fw-la glory_n honour_n and_o peace_n be_v to_o every_o one_o that_o do_v good_a so_o also_o there_o be_v two_o sort_n of_o invocation_n the_o one_o use_v to_o god_n alone_o whereof_o the_o apostle_n speak_v in_o the_o text_n allege_v by_o m._n andrew_n and_o the_o other_o use_v not_o only_o to_o angel_n and_o saint_n 48._o but_o also_o to_o man_n as_o we_o read_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n where_o jacob_n bless_v the_o child_n of_o joseph_n say_v 〈◊〉_d invocetur_fw-la nomen_fw-la meum_fw-la super_fw-la pueros_fw-la hos_fw-la &_o nomina_fw-la patrum_fw-la meorum_fw-la let_v my_o name_n and_o the_o name_n of_o my_o father_n abraham_n and_o isaac_n be_v invocate_v upon_o those_o child_n upon_o which_o word_n s._n augustine_n note_v express_o that_o not_o only_a exaudition_n 200._o but_o also_o invocation_n be_v sometime_o apply_v to_o man_n and_o not_o to_o god_n alone_o beside_o that_o i_o will_v make_v it_o evident_a hereafter_o that_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v use_v invocation_n for_o prayer_n to_o saint_n 6._o but_o if_o m._n andrew_n will_n not_o believe_v s._n augustine_n and_o the_o other_o ancient_a father_n nor_o yet_o the_o holy_a scripture_n let_v he_o believe_v himself_o who_o afterward_o teach_v clear_o enough_o that_o the_o word_n invocation_n may_v be_v apply_v to_o creature_n for_o he_o say_v that_o poscere_fw-la à _fw-la sanctis_fw-la auxilium_fw-la autem_fw-la propriè_fw-la invocare_fw-la est_fw-la to_o crave_v help_n of_o saint_n be_v proper_o to_o invocate_v they_o so_o that_o according_a to_o this_o interpretation_n of_o he_o we_o do_v proper_o invocate_v all_o those_o of_o who_o we_o crave_v help_v himself_o and_o succour_n which_o we_o lawful_o crave_v not_o only_o of_o god_n but_o also_o of_o those_o who_o by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n may_v and_o do_v lawful_o succour_v and_o help_v we_o as_o angel_n saint_n and_o man_n do_v whereupon_o it_o follow_v that_o we_o may_v lawful_o demand_v their_o help_n and_o consequent_o invocate_v they_o according_a to_o m._n andrews_n his_o own_o interpretation_n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o have_v not_o only_o very_o idle_o labour_v to_o fright_v we_o with_o his_o terrible_a text_n take_v out_o of_o the_o apostle_n but_o also_o fond_o contradict_v himself_o 7._o no_o less_o vain_a and_o idle_a be_v the_o exception_n which_o he_o take_v against_o the_o cardinal_n us._n for_o undertake_v to_o prove_v the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n instead_o of_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n for_o how_o can_v m._n andrew_n be_n ignorant_a that_o the_o cardinal_n mean_v to_o prove_v the_o catholic_a doctrine_n concern_v prayer_n to_o saint_n or_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n albeit_o he_o term_v it_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n for_o whereas_o there_o be_v in_o this_o question_n two_o point_n special_o controverse_v the_o one_o whether_o we_o may_v pray_v to_o saint_n and_o the_o other_o whether_o they_o do_v pray_v for_o we_o which_o two_o have_v a_o connexion_n and_o dependence_n one_o of_o another_o it_o suffice_v that_o the_o cardinal_n name_v one_o of_o they_o mean_v under_o the_o title_n thereof_o to_o prove_v the_o catholic_a doctrine_n concern_v they_o both_o as_o indeed_o he_o do_v by_o the_o place_n of_o the_o father_n which_o he_o allege_v prove_v by_o some_o of_o they_o that_o the_o saint_n pray_v for_o we_o succour_n and_o help_v we_o and_o by_o other_o that_o we_o may_v pray_v to_o they_o yea_o and_o that_o we_o do_v receive_v help_n and_o succour_v by_o they_o whereby_o the_o cardinal_n do_v sufficient_o discharge_v his_o promise_n yea_o and_o prove_v that_o which_o m._n andrew_n exact_v of_o he_o to_o wit_n the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n so_o that_o m._n andrew_n show_v himself_o still_o to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o notable_a wrangler_n contend_v about_o word_n when_o nevertheless_o he_o understand_v clear_o the_o cardinal_n sense_n and_o mean_v therein_o 8._o and_o now_o to_o show_v that_o the_o cardinal_n evident_o prove_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n i_o will_v examine_v m._n andrews_n his_o answer_n to_o the_o place_n allege_v by_o the_o cardinal_n out_o of_o the_o father_n whereby_o also_o his_o cavil_v wrangle_a &_o fraudulent_a humour_n shall_v evident_o appear_v he_o devide_v the_o father_n which_o the_o cardinal_n produce_v into_o 3._o rank_n patrum_fw-la the_o first_o say_v he_o be_v of_o those_o qui_fw-la verè_fw-la patres_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la verè_fw-la citantur_fw-la be_v true_o father_n but_o not_o true_o cite_v the_o second_o of_o those_o qui_fw-la verè_fw-la citantur_fw-la sed_fw-la fidei_fw-la suspectae_fw-la which_o be_v true_o cite_v but_o of_o no_o sound_a credit_n and_o the_o three_o chip_n of_o those_o qui_fw-la &_o very_fw-la &_o verè_fw-la
redemption_n but_o also_o by_o the_o way_n of_o prayer_n which_o do_v no_o way_n exclude_v other_o mediator_n to_o he_o for_o we_o or_o to_o god_n the_o father_n by_o his_o merit_n which_o m._n andrews_n himself_o confess_v sufficient_o see_v he_o grant_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n do_v pray_v for_o we_o all_o with_o christ_n their_o head_n and_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o we_o may_v crave_v the_o prayer_n one_o of_o another_o whereupon_o it_o follow_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o our_o only_a mediator_n by_o the_o way_n of_o prayer_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o he_o and_o his_o fellow_n do_v understand_v it_o 50._o and_o whereas_o he_o seek_v to_o confirm_v his_o false_a inference_n with_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n against_o parmenian_n the_o donatist_n explicate_v say_v that_o if_o paul_n and_o john_n have_v make_v themselves_o mediator_n the_o faithful_a christian_n will_v not_o have_v suffer_v it_o he_o pervert_v whole_o the_o sense_n of_o s._n augustine_n as_o he_o be_v wont_a allege_v only_o a_o little_a scrap_n of_o his_o discourse_n and_o dissemble_v all_o that_o which_o do_v full_o explicate_v his_o meaning_n and_o that_o this_o may_v appear_v thou_o shall_v understand_v good_a reader_n that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o the_o donatist_n teach_v that_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o sacrament_n depend_v of_o the_o goodness_n of_o the_o minister_n yea_o and_o do_v most_o wicked_o and_o proud_o affirm_v of_o themselves_o 8â—_n neminem_fw-la esse_fw-la inter_fw-la collegas_fw-la suos_fw-la vel_fw-la seipsos_fw-la cum_fw-la aliqua_fw-la macula_fw-la &_o vitio_fw-la that_o there_o be_v none_o among_o their_o colleague_n or_o companion_n or_o among_o themselves_o spot_v with_o any_o blot_n or_o vice_n and_o that_o parmenian_n also_o say_v of_o a_o bishop_n of_o they_o that_o he_o be_v a_o mediator_n betwixt_o god_n and_o the_o people_n mean_v a_o immaculate_a and_o unspotted_a mediator_n s._n augustine_n inveigh_v bitter_o against_o this_o their_o execrable_a presumption_n and_o pride_n &_o say_v that_o neither_o s._n john_n nor_o s._n paul_n nor_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n dare_v ever_o presume_v to_o make_v themselves_o mediator_n in_o this_o sense_n and_o therefore_o he_o say_v that_o they_o acknowledge_v themselves_o to_o be_v sinner_n and_o that_o s._n john_n do_v not_o say_v 2._o si_fw-la quis_fw-la peccaverit_fw-la mediatorem_fw-la i_o babetis_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o any_o man_n sin_n you_o have_v i_o for_o a_o mediator_n but_o advocatum_fw-la habemus_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o have_v a_o advocate_n jesus_n christ_n whereby_o s._n john_n confess_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o sinner_n &_o to_o have_v need_n of_o the_o propitiation_n and_o mediation_n of_o christ._n 51._o and_o s._n paul_n in_o like_a manner_n commend_v himself_o say_v s._n augustine_n to_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o do_v not_o make_v himself_o a_o mediator_n betwixt_o god_n and_o the_o people_n so_o as_o s._n augustine_n show_v evident_o hereby_o that_o he_o do_v not_o exclude_v the_o mediation_n of_o saint_n or_o of_o one_o man_n for_o another_o by_o way_n of_o intercession_n to_o christ_n but_o only_o in_o such_o sort_n as_o the_o same_o shall_v impugn_v christ_n mediation_n for_o all_o man_n which_o he_o also_o signify_v more_o express_o in_o the_o same_o place_n say_v homines_fw-la omnes_fw-la christiani_n etc._n etc._n all_o christian_a man_n do_v recommend_v themselves_o one_o to_o another_o prayer_n but_o he_o for_o who_o no_o man_n pray_v but_o he_o for_o all_o be_v the_o only_a and_o true_a mediator_n thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n another_o who_o affirm_v that_o christian_n crave_v the_o prayer_n one_o of_o another_o grant_v consequent_o that_o they_o may_v also_o be_v mediator_n that_o be_v to_o say_v intercessor_n one_o for_o another_o and_o therefore_o do_v not_o deny_v that_o saint_n or_o man_n may_v be_v mediator_n for_o man_n in_o any_o other_o sense_n then_o such_o as_o the_o proud_a donatist_n understand_v the_o same_o who_o do_v so_o justify_v themselves_o that_o they_o do_v evacuate_v &_o take_v away_o the_o necessity_n of_o christ_n mediation_n for_o they_o or_o for_o such_o as_o they_o recommend_v to_o god_n esteem_v themselves_o to_o be_v so_o pure_a and_o immaculate_a that_o god_n do_v hear_v they_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o own_o purity_n 52._o wherein_o also_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o albeit_o s._n augustine_n in_o all_o this_o discourse_n speak_v only_o of_o man_n while_o they_o live_v in_o this_o world_n and_o not_o of_o saint_n or_o angel_n teach_v that_o no_o man_n live_v in_o respect_n of_o his_o frailty_n and_o subjection_n to_o sin_n can_v be_v a_o mediator_n or_o advocate_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n that_o christ_n be_v to_o wit_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o he_o need_v no_o other_o mediator_n christ._n or_o advocate_n to_o pray_v for_o he_o but_o that_o he_o pray_v for_o all_o other_o nevertheless_o the_o same_o may_v also_o be_v understand_v of_o angel_n and_o saint_n for_o although_o they_o pray_v for_o all_o man_n and_o no_o man_n for_o they_o yet_o for_o as_o much_o as_o they_o obtain_v nothing_o of_o god_n but_o by_o christ_n mediation_n and_o merit_n they_o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v such_o mediator_n or_o advocate_n as_o need_v no_o other_o mediation_n or_o help_v to_o obtain_v their_o suit_n which_o be_v only_o say_v true_o of_o christ_n who_o therefore_o be_v as_o s._n augustine_n say_v the_o true_a and_o only_a mediator_n pro_fw-la quo_fw-la nemo_fw-la interpellat_n sed_fw-la ipse_fw-la pro_fw-la omnibus_fw-la for_o who_o no_o man_n pray_v but_o he_o for_o all_o 53._o this_o then_o be_v the_o clear_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o s._n augustine_n i_o remit_v it_o to_o thy_o judgement_n good_a reader_n whether_o this_o contradict_v any_o way_n our_o catholic_a doctrine_n or_o make_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o for_o m._n andrew_n his_o purpose_n may_v he_o not_o then_o be_v ashamed_a to_o say_v as_o he_o do_v that_o when_o we_o crave_v the_o prayer_n to_o saint_n we_o give_v they_o the_o place_n of_o christ_n &_o that_o when_o we_o come_v to_o they_o we_o seek_v to_o be_v refresh_v by_o they_o instead_o of_o christ_n when_o nevertheless_o he_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o we_o may_v crave_v the_o prayer_n of_o man_n and_o consequent_o come_v to_o christ_n by_o they_o or_o rather_o together_o with_o they_o and_o with_o their_o assistance_n for_o no_o man_n i_o think_v that_o request_n either_o man_n or_o saint_n to_o pray_v for_o he_o do_v so_o whole_o confide_v in_o their_o prayer_n that_o he_o omit_v to_o pray_v to_o christ_n rhetorik_v and_o therefore_o he_o come_v also_o himself_o immediate_o to_o christ_n as_o he_o that_o have_v a_o suit_n to_o a_o prince_n and_o do_v not_o only_o procure_v to_o be_v recommend_v to_o he_o by_o his_o favourite_n but_o also_o present_v his_o own_o petition_n unto_o he_o do_v come_v himself_o immediate_o to_o the_o prince_n though_o he_o be_v accompany_v or_o second_v by_o other_o whereby_o it_o appear_v what_o a_o deal_n of_o rhetorik_n m._n andrews_n have_v cast_v away_o to_o prove_v that_o he_o which_o pray_v to_o saint_n do_v not_o come_v to_o christ._n 54._o and_o if_o he_o will_v yet_o say_v further_o as_o some_o of_o his_o fellow_n be_v wont_a to_o do_v that_o the_o case_n be_v not_o like_a of_o saint_n and_o man_n because_o there_o be_v example_n in_o the_o scripture_n of_o crave_v the_o prayer_n of_o man_n but_o not_o of_o saint_n he_o shall_v show_v himself_o to_o be_v no_o less_o ignorant_a than_o absurb_v because_o the_o same_o can_v be_v no_o confirmation_n of_o his_o former_a argument_n take_v out_o of_o scripture_n they_o but_o a_o evident_a confutation_n of_o they_o see_v that_o it_o appear_v thereby_o that_o christ_n be_v not_o the_o only_a mediator_n or_o advocate_n in_o the_o sense_n that_o they_o take_v it_o for_o if_o he_o be_v then_o can_v we_o not_o crave_v the_o prayer_n of_o any_o but_o of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o for_o as_o much_o as_o the_o scripture_n which_o can_v be_v contrary_a to_o itself_o allow_v and_o exhort_v we_o to_o crave_v one_o another_o prayer_n 5._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o it_o do_v not_o teach_v it_o or_o mean_v that_o christ_n be_v our_o only_a mediator_n or_o advocate_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o that_o no_o other_o may_v pray_v for_o we_o but_o he_o or_o we_o crave_v the_o prayer_n of_o no_o other_o but_o of_o he_o or_o that_o we_o do_v injury_n to_o he_o when_o we_o come_v to_o he_o by_o the_o mediation_n mean_n and_o assistance_n of_o other_o for_o so_o shall_v the_o scripture_n contradict_v itself_o which_o it_o can_v do_v 55._o moreover_o by_o seek_v this_o shift_n they_o leave_v whole_o their_o former_a argument_n and_o fly_v to_o another_o ground_v upon_o as_o false_a a_o foundation_n as_o the_o former_a to_o wit_n that_o
and_o be_v do_v non_fw-la praescripto_fw-la legis_fw-la sed_fw-la confiâ—io_fw-la charitatis_fw-la not_o by_o the_o prescript_n or_o commandment_n of_o the_o law_n but_o by_o the_o counsel_n of_o charity_n haec_fw-la sunt_fw-la say_v he_o quae_fw-la ampliùs_fw-la exogantur_fw-la saucio_fw-la etc._n etc._n these_o be_v those_o work_n which_o be_v lay_v out_o more_o for_o the_o wound_a man_n who_o through_o the_o compassion_n of_o the_o samaritan_n be_v bring_v to_o the_o inn_n to_o be_v cure_v and_o therefore_o they_o be_v say_v not_o to_o be_v command_v by_o our_o lord_n although_o they_o be_v advise_v to_o be_v offer_v to_o the_o end_n that_o they_o may_v be_v understand_v to_o be_v so_o much_o more_o grateful_a by_o how_o much_o more_o they_o be_v signify_v not_o to_o be_v due_a so_o he_o 5._o also_o in_o another_o place_n he_o put_v the_o matter_n out_o of_o all_o doubt_n exemplyfy_n the_o same_o thus_o stbularius_fw-la ergo_fw-la est_fw-la apostolus_fw-la 1st_a quod_fw-la autem_fw-la supererogat_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o host_n be_v the_o apostle_n and_o that_o which_o he_o lay_v out_o more_o be_v either_o that_o counsel_n whereof_o he_o say_v de_fw-fr virginibus_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la domini_fw-la non_fw-la habeo_fw-la consilium_fw-la autem_fw-la do_fw-mi concern_v virgin_n i_o have_v no_o precept_n of_o our_o lord_n but_o i_o give_v counsel_n or_o else_o it_o be_v that_o he_o wrought_v with_o his_o own_o hand_n lest_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o gospel_n he_o shall_v be_v a_o burden_n to_o some_o of_o the_o weak_a sort_n when_o nevertheless_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o he_o to_o be_v feed_v or_o maintain_v by_o the_o gospel_n thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n clear_o confute_v m._n andrews_n his_o idle_a discourse_n for_o to_o omit_v that_o he_o teach_v the_o use_n of_o the_o word_n supererogation_n which_o therefore_o be_v not_o devise_v of_o late_a time_n and_o much_o less_o by_o the_o catholic_n of_o these_o day_n first_o he_o show_v that_o it_o signify_v such_o work_n as_o be_v lawful_a themselves_o be_v not_o command_v by_o any_o precept_n in_o which_o only_a sense_n cardinal_n bellarmine_n and_o all_o other_o catholyk_v use_v it_o 6._o second_o he_o exemplifi_v the_o same_o not_o only_o in_o the_o counsel_n of_o virginity_n which_o be_v therefore_o a_o work_n of_o supererogation_n but_o also_o in_o s._n paul_n own_o practice_n of_o maintain_v himself_o by_o the_o labour_n of_o his_o hand_n when_o he_o may_v have_v live_v by_o the_o gospel_n whereupon_o it_o follow_v clear_o that_o m._n andrews_n argue_v very_o impertinent_o in_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o can_v do_v no_o work_n of_o supererogation_n because_o they_o have_v daily_a occasion_n to_o say_v dimitte_n nobis_fw-la debita_fw-la nostra_fw-la for_o i_o be_o sure_a m._n andrews_n will_v not_o deny_v that_o s._n paul_n be_v a_o apostle_n and_o yet_o s._n augustine_n affirm_v as_o you_o see_v that_o he_o not_o only_o teach_v work_n of_o supererogation_n namely_o virginity_n and_o continent_n single_a life_n but_o also_o practise_v &_o perform_v they_o himself_o do_v such_o good_a work_n as_o he_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o do_v by_o any_o precept_n beside_o that_o it_o appear_v also_o hereby_o that_o a_o man_n may_v do_v a_o work_n of_o supererogation_n though_o he_o have_v occasion_n daily_o to_o say_v dimitte_n nobis_fw-la debita_fw-la nostra_fw-la which_o therefore_o be_v a_o idle_a exception_n of_o m._n andrews_n against_o such_o work_n even_o in_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o last_o we_o see_v by_o these_o testymonye_n of_o s._n augustine_n and_o the_o example_n of_o s._n paul_n that_o a_o work_n of_o supererogation_n be_v no_o other_o but_o such_o a_o good_a work_n as_o be_v not_o command_v by_o precept_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o m._n andrews_n take_v it_o in_o another_o sense_n change_v thâ—_n state_n of_o the_o question_n 107._o 7._o moreover_o whereas_o the_o apology_n for_o the_o oath_n 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conclude_v concern_v holy_a relic_n it_o appear_v sufficient_o hereby_o that_o m._n andrew_n grant_v as_o much_o concern_v they_o as_o we_o desire_v to_o wit_n that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v deck_v and_o adorn_v lay_v up_o with_o honour_n and_o solemnity_n reserve_v and_o keep_v in_o honourable_a and_o holy_a place_n and_o final_o that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v honour_v yea_o and_o that_o god_n do_v sometime_o work_v miracle_n by_o they_o which_o he_o can_v deny_v to_o be_v a_o notable_a and_o divine_a confirmation_n of_o the_o honour_n that_o be_v do_v unto_o they_o and_o therefore_o for_o as_o much_o as_o the_o honour_n that_o he_o grant_v to_o be_v due_a unto_o they_o be_v neither_o divine_a honour_n which_o both_o he_o and_o we_o conclude_v in_o this_o case_n nor_o civil_a honour_n see_v it_o be_v not_o do_v for_o any_o temporal_a or_o civil_a respect_n but_o proceed_v out_o of_o devotion_n and_o tend_v direct_o to_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n he_o must_v needs_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v a_o religious_a honour_n and_o that_o the_o same_o may_v be_v exhibit_v with_o much_o more_o external_a worship_n and_o reverence_v then_o the_o civil_a honour_n or_o worship_n which_o be_v due_a to_o any_o prince_n yea_o so_o much_o more_o as_o respect_v of_o devotion_n and_o religion_n surpass_v and_o excel_v temporal_a and_o civil_a respect_n so_o that_o if_o civil_a honour_n do_v require_v corporal_a reverence_n with_o cap_n and_o knee_n bow_v and_o prostrate_v of_o the_o body_n much_o more_o do_v the_o religious_a honour_n due_a to_o saint_n and_o their_o relic_n require_v the_o same_o thus_o much_o for_o this_o point_n 20._o whereas_o the_o cardinal_n have_v occasion_n to_o speak_v of_o monk_n multitudine_fw-la and_o religious_a woman_n he_o say_v that_o their_o institute_n can_v be_v reprehend_v except_o we_o reprehend_v all_o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o 500_o year_n m._n andrews_n grant_v it_o to_o be_v true_a institutaâ—_n for_o he_o say_v that_o his_o majesty_n mean_v not_o to_o reprehend_v the_o institute_n of_o monk_n but_o the_o monk_n themselves_o because_o they_o have_v long_o since_o go_v from_o their_o institut_n or_o rule_n be_v degenerate_v into_o locust_n apud_fw-la quos_fw-la say_v he_o desidia_fw-la nimium_fw-la verè_fw-la nimium_fw-la saepe_fw-la in_o luxuriam_fw-la despumavit_fw-la who_o idleness_n or_o sloth_n have_v too_o true_o and_o too_o oft_o turn_v to_o a_o very_a foam_n or_o froth_n of_o luxurious_a and_o licentious_a life_n so_o he_o and_o then_o he_o add_v that_o because_o their_o institute_n be_v not_o of_o the_o divine_a law_n but_o only_o of_o the_o positive_a and_o now_o go_v in_o merum_fw-la abusum_fw-la into_o a_o mere_a abuse_n therefore_o it_o be_v worthy_o antiquate_v or_o abolish_v among_o the_o protestant_n wherein_o that_o which_o i_o wish_v especial_o to_o be_v note_v be_v that_o he_o approve_v the_o first_o institute_n of_o monk_n and_o consequent_o must_v needs_o approve_v diverse_a important_a point_n of_o catholic_a doctrine_n and_o utter_o condemn_v his_o own_o religion_n 21._o for_o it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o the_o first_o institut_n and_o discipline_n of_o religious_a life_n monk_n consist_v principal_o as_o still_o it_o do_v in_o the_o observation_n of_o the_o evangelicall_a counsel_n of_o our_o saviour_n to_o wit_n of_o voluntary_a povety_n chastity_n and_o obedience_n abnegation_n of_o a_o man_n self_n and_o chastisement_n of_o his_o flesh_n by_o fast_v penance_n wear_v of_o haircloth_n discipline_n &_o diverse_a other_o mortification_n as_o it_o be_v manifest_a partly_o in_o the_o monasterial_a discipline_n observe_v by_o the_o first_o monk_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o relate_v by_o philo_n â—_o the_o jew_n as_o eusebus_n 16._o s._n hiâ—rome_n phil._n epiphanius_n 29._o s._n bede_n matth._n sozomen_n 12._o and_o nicephorus_n 16._o do_v testify_v and_o partly_o in_o the_o monastical_a constitution_n which_o be_v to_o be_v see_v express_o set_v down_o in_o s._n basill_n monach._n and_o often_o touch_v and_o mention_v by_o cassianus_n renuntiant_fw-la palladius_n lausia_n theodoretus_n religios_fw-la joamnes_n climacus_n paradisi_fw-la severus_n suspitius_n martini_n s._n augustine_n 3â—_n s._n hierome_n basil._n and_o other_o father_n of_o the_o first_o 400._o year_n to_o omit_v s._n benet_n rule_n yet_o extant_a which_o be_v make_v in_o the_o age_n follow_v so_o that_o m._n andrew_n approve_v the_o institutes_n of_o the_o old_a monk_n allow_v the_o practice_n of_o all_o that_o catholic_a doctrine_n before_o mention_v which_o other_o sectary_n of_o this_o time_n have_v hitherto_o condemn_v deride_v and_o abhor_v as_o repugnant_a to_o the_o liberty_n of_o their_o gospel_n and_o their_o own_o sensuality_n 22._o beside_o that_o he_o also_o approve_v thereby_o work_n of_o supererogation_n such_o i_o mean_v as_o be_v not_o command_v but_o counsel_v and_o leave_v to_o our_o own_o free_a choice_n and_o consequent_o he_o grant_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o a_o counsel_n &_o a_o precept_n contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o luther_n calvin_n and_o other_o sectary_n final_o he_o allow_v vow_n of_o poverty_n chastity_n and_o obedience_n which_o be_v and_o always_o have_v be_v as_o it_o be_v the_o link_n and_o band_n of_o monastical_a and_o religious_a profession_n as_o it_o appear_v evident_o in_o the_o ancient_a father_n as_o in_o dionysius_n s._n paul_n disciple_n who_o testify_v that_o those_o who_o be_v make_v monk_n in_o his_o time_n which_o be_v the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n make_v a_o solemn_a promise_n and_o covenant_n before_o the_o altar_n to_o renounce_v the_o world_n and_o embrace_v the_o monastical_a life_n and_o s._n basil_n write_v to_o a_o monk_n that_o be_v fall_v finem_fw-la put_v he_o in_o mind_n of_o his_o covenant_n make_v with_o god_n and_o professed_a coram_fw-la multis_fw-la testibus_fw-la before_o many_o witness_n and_o in_o his_o monastical_a rule_n signify_v that_o he_o which_o have_v vow_v himself_o to_o god_n in_o this_o religious_a profession_n and_o pass_v afterward_o to_o another_o state_n of_o life_n sacrilegij_fw-la se_fw-la scelere_fw-la obstringit_fw-la be_v guilty_a of_o sacrilege_n because_o he_o have_v say_v he_o as_o it_o be_v steal_v himself_o from_o god_n to_o who_o he_o have_v dedicate_v and_o consecrate_a himself_o 23._o also_o s._n augustine_n say_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n nemo_fw-la potiùs_fw-la in_o monasterio_n frater_fw-la dicat_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v no_o brother_n or_o religious_a man_n that_o be_v in_o a_o monastery_n say_v i_o will_v leave_v and_o forsake_v it_o or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v think_v that_o only_o those_o shall_v be_v save_v who_o live_v in_o monastery_n or_o that_o other_o which_o live_v abroad_o do_v not_o pertain_v to_o god_n for_o to_o he_o that_o shall_v say_v so_o it_o be_v to_o be_v answer_v illi_fw-la non_fw-la voverunt_fw-la tu_fw-la vovisti_fw-la they_o have_v not_o vow_v but_o thou_o have_v vow_v so_o he_o final_o joannes_n cassianus_n who_o live_v
also_o in_o the_o same_o time_n treat_v of_o the_o perfection_n of_o religious_a man_n and_o have_v say_v that_o inestimable_a glory_n in_o heaven_n be_v promise_v they_o if_o they_o keep_v their_o rule_n and_o most_o grievous_a pain_n prepare_v for_o they_o if_o they_o neglect_v they_o conclude_v melius_a enim_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o it_o be_v better_a according_a to_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o scripture_n not_o to_o vow_v then_o to_o vow_n and_o not_o to_o perform_v it_o thus_o say_v cassianus_n to_o who_o i_o may_v add_v many_o other_o witness_n 13._o but_o that_o it_o be_v needless_a see_v these_o may_v suffice_v to_o show_v m._n andrews_n allow_v as_o he_o do_v the_o institut_n of_o the_o monk_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n must_v needs_o admit_v &_o allow_v religious_a vow_n of_o poverty_n chastity_n &_o obedience_n whereto_o all_o religious_a man_n be_v and_o ever_o have_v be_v bind_v by_o their_o institutes_n 24._o so_o as_o it_o be_v clear_a by_o all_o this_o that_o in_o this_o one_o point_n he_o have_v grant_v diverse_a important_a point_n of_o catholic_a religion_n yea_o and_o utter_o condemn_v his_o own_o which_o deny_v and_o impugn_v all_o those_o thing_n practise_v in_o monastical_a life_n according_a to_o the_o first_o institutes_n thereof_o beside_o that_o it_o also_o follow_v thereon_o that_o his_o religion_n be_v utter_o void_a of_o all_o christian_n perfection_n which_o special_o consist_v in_o the_o true_a imitation_n of_o christ_n life_n by_o the_o observation_n of_o the_o evangelicall_a counsel_n profess_v and_o practise_v in_o religious_a discipline_n for_o which_o cause_n all_o the_o ancient_a father_n place_v the_o high_a perfection_n of_o christian_n religion_n therein_o as_o i_o have_v evident_o show_v in_o any_o supplement_n by_o the_o clear_a testimony_n of_o s._n dionysius_n areopagita_n 60._o eusebius_n s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n s._n basil_n s._n chrisostome_n s._n hierome_n s._n augustin_n sozomenus_n &_o s._n bernard_n 25._o therefore_o it_o little_a import_v for_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n what_o he_o iangle_v against_o monk_n for_o put_v the_o case_n it_o be_v true_a that_o they_o be_v all_o degenerate_v from_o their_o first_o institute_n as_o it_o be_v most_o false_a and_o affirm_v by_o he_o without_o any_o proof_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v answer_v with_o a_o bare_a denial_n yet_o it_o suffice_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o that_o which_o i_o have_v here_o undertake_v religion_n that_o the_o say_v institut_n consist_v in_o the_o practice_n of_o many_o notable_a and_o important_a point_n of_o catholic_a religion_n and_o that_o he_o have_v by_o a_o evident_a consequent_a grant_v and_o approve_v the_o say_v point_n together_o with_o the_o institut_n against_o the_o current_n of_o the_o doctrine_n and_o profession_n of_o all_o his_o fellow_n in_o which_o respect_n i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o trouble_v thou_o good_a reader_n with_o any_o answer_n to_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o impertinent_a discourse_n and_o namely_o to_o his_o frivolous_a stale_a objection_n concern_v the_o idleness_n of_o monk_n seq_n answer_v full_o long_a since_o by_o divers_a catholic_n and_o namely_o by_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n in_o his_o controversy_n whereto_o i_o remit_v he_o because_o i_o be_o force_v to_o haste_v to_o a_o end_n for_o otherwise_o true_o i_o will_v not_o only_o say_v somewhat_o thereto_o but_o also_o i_o will_v examine_v and_o debate_n with_o he_o 2._o or_o 3._o other_o point_n which_o he_o touch_v and_o especial_o what_o be_v the_o true_a cause_n why_o monastical_a profession_n be_v first_o abrogate_a among_o the_o protestant_n and_o why_o they_o pretend_v to_o reform_v the_o church_n in_o these_o our_o day_n do_v rather_o quite_o abolish_v the_o institute_n of_o monk_n they_o seek_v to_o restore_v it_o to_o the_o first_o integrity_n if_o it_o be_v good_a at_o the_o first_o and_o only_o fall_v to_o decay_v and_o corruption_n as_o he_o signify_v 26._o for_o whereas_o he_o seem_v to_o give_v two_o cause_n thereof_o the_o one_o that_o monk_n be_v grow_v to_o be_v idle_a and_o the_o other_o that_o their_o idleness_n be_v turn_v to_o licentiousness_n if_o that_o be_v true_a those_o reformer_n shall_v rather_o have_v seek_v to_o redress_v the_o abuse_n and_o to_o reduce_v the_o monk_n to_o their_o first_o rule_n then_o to_o antiquate_v the_o whole_a institute_n which_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o holy_a scripture_n the_o express_a counsel_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o the_o example_n of_o his_o life_n be_v ordain_v 59.60_o by_o the_o apostle_n as_o i_o have_v show_v in_o my_o supplement_n and_o do_v conteyn_a in_o it_o all_o true_a christian_a perfection_n according_a to_o the_o opinion_n of_o all_o the_o father_n in_o which_o respect_n it_o can_v not_o by_o any_o humane_a authority_n be_v lawful_o abrogate_a and_o take_v quite_o out_o of_o the_o church_n beside_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o ringleader_n in_o that_o pretend_a reformation_n i_o mean_v luther_n oecolâ—mpadius_n bucer_n peter_n martyr_n ochinus_n michonius_n menius_n musculus_fw-la pelicanus_n pomeranus_n and_o munsterus_n be_v all_o of_o they_o votary_n that_o be_v to_o say_v monk_n friar_n and_o religious_a man_n abolish_v the_o institutes_n of_o monastical_a life_n only_o because_o they_o themselves_o be_v so_o transport_v with_o the_o fury_n of_o lust_n and_o sensuality_n that_o they_o can_v no_o long_o endure_v the_o restraint_n thereof_o in_o religious_a discipline_n 27._o and_o therefore_o they_o resolve_v not_o only_o to_o teach_v most_o beastly_a and_o fleshly_a doctrine_n tend_v to_o all_o liberty_n of_o the_o flesh_n as_o that_o it_o matrimo_fw-la be_v no_o more_o possible_a to_o live_v chaste_a then_o to_o live_v without_o meat_n that_o 119._o if_o the_o wife_n will_v not_o come_v let_v the_o maid_n come_v that_o polygamy_n or_o the_o have_v of_o many_o wife_n at_o once_o be_v 11._o not_o forbid_v in_o the_o new_a law_n yea_o and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o a_o man_n to_o mat._n pray_v for_o the_o gift_n of_o chastity_n except_o he_o sure_o know_v that_o god_n will_v give_v it_o he_o they_o resolve_v i_o say_v not_o only_o to_o teach_v this_o beastly_a and_o mahometicall_a doctrine_n but_o also_o to_o incite_v man_n thereto_o by_o their_o example_n even_o with_o the_o damnable_a breach_n of_o their_o own_o vow_n â—_o habentes_fw-la damnationem_fw-la quia_fw-la primam_fw-la fidem_fw-la 104._o irritam_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la have_v damnation_n because_o they_o break_v their_o first_o faith_n as_o s._n paul_n say_v of_o the_o young_a widow_n who_o after_o their_o vow_n of_o chastity_n have_v but_o only_o a_o will_n and_o desire_v to_o marry_v whereas_o these_o deformer_n have_v bind_v themselves_o both_o to_o chastity_n and_o monastical_a life_n by_o solemn_a vow_n abandon_v both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o and_o as_o s._n perfection_n basil_n say_v of_o such_o do_v seek_v to_o cover_v stupri_fw-la scelus_fw-la honesto_fw-la coniugij_fw-la nomine_fw-la the_o wickedness_n of_o whoredom_n with_o the_o honest_a name_n of_o marriage_n most_o of_o they_o take_v harlot_n under_o the_o name_n of_o wife_n 28._o so_o as_o m._n andrew_n may_v see_v who_o be_v indeed_o those_o locust_n who_o slothful_a idleness_n turn_v to_o a_o froth_n of_o licentious_a life_n destroy_v monastical_a perfection_n and_o profession_n among_o the_o protestant_o to_o wit_n the_o very_a first_o apostles_n and_o evangelist_n of_o their_o gospel_n i_o mean_v the_o votary_n above_o name_v and_o other_o such_o of_o their_o humour_n and_o crew_n who_o be_v weary_a of_o the_o severity_n of_o monastical_a discipline_n become_v apostata_n and_o renegat_n and_o the_o better_a to_o cloak_n and_o excuse_v their_o own_o apostasy_n not_o only_o seek_v to_o abrogate_v all_o monastical_a discipline_n but_o do_v also_o set_v abroach_o the_o new_a doctrine_n which_o m._n andrew_n and_o all_o other_o protestant_n now_o profess_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o judge_n what_o good_a fruit_n such_o bad_a tree_n can_v yield_v and_o consequent_o from_o what_o spirit_n as_o well_o the_o abrogation_n of_o monastical_a profession_n among_o the_o protestant_n as_o their_o whole_a doctrine_n proceed_v and_o thus_o much_o for_o this_o point_n 29._o the_o cardinal_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o name_n catholic_a do_v most_o proper_o belong_v to_o they_o that_o live_v in_o the_o unity_n and_o obedience_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n allege_v s._n ambrose_n who_o have_v declare_v that_o his_o brother_n satyrus_n be_v by_o shipwreck_n cast_v upon_o a_o coast_n where_o there_o be_v many_o schismatic_o call_v luciferians_n thereof_o ask_v the_o bishop_n of_o the_o place_n whether_o he_o do_v agree_v with_o the_o catholic_a bishop_n and_o explicate_v the_o same_o present_o say_v id_fw-la est_fw-la a_fw-fr cum_fw-la romana_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la consentiret_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v whether_o he_o agree_v with_o the_o roman_a church_n whereto_o m._n andrew_n answer_v that_o ambrose_n