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A27028 Schism detected in both extreams, or, Two sorts of sinful separation the first part detecteth the schismatical principles of a resolver of three cases about church-communion, the second part confuteth the separation pleaded for in a book famed to be written by Mr. Raphson. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1684 (1684) Wing B1396; ESTC R16323 73,225 84

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Breakfast or Dinner The Apostles brake no Law when they differed from any of these which were but occasional Circumstances It 's said by some That Christ's Example binds us to a Table-gesture But 1. That may be convenient and yet not necessary The bare Example binds us not to it 2. If it did that were but like the general Law Let all be done to edification and in order and binds to no one sort of gesture at all For then when they eat standing it would bind us to stand and if they eat kneeling as Labourers oft do at Harvest-work in the Fields it would bind us to kneel if they eat lying as the Jews did it would bind us to that and so this would but tie us to the Custom of the Countrey But in feasting with God we may sometimes do it more lowly than in a common Table-gesture and break no Law When Mary was it 's like on her knees washing Christ's feet with her Tears if he had offered her Bread or Wine it 's like it had been no Idolatry so to take it But the grand Objection is that we worship Bread and Wine which can be no better than a slander when the very Liturgy and Doctrine of the Church not only renounce Transubstantiation but the very real Presence of Christ's Body which yet many thousand Protestants believe Object But you kneel before the Bread and Wine and make it a mediate Object of adoration contrary to the Second Commandment Answ 1. We neither make any Image nor invent this Medium nor yet symbolize with Idolaters while we renounce the very Object Transubstantiate Bread which they adore and therefore break not the Second Commandment no more than we do in kneeling in lawful Prayer because they kneel in praying before Images or to Angels 2. An Object of worship is either a meer motive exciting Object or else a terminative mediate worshipped Object The first is more than lawful For we should be moved and stirred up by the works of God even by our Meat and Drink by Sun and Moon and all that we see to worship God And this is properly but the Object of our thoughts and the motive of our outward acts And the Sacrament is no more But if we did direct our worship terminatively to the Bread and Wine as a mediate Object by which it should pass to God this were to break the Second Commandment like Image-worship There are many Instances in Scripture of people that have bowed to God before the Prophet moved by his word and presence who yet break not the Second Commandment nor idolized the Words or Prophets So Joshua fell down to the Angel Josh 4. We give thanks for the Meat that stands before us on the Table as a Motive-Object and we may do it on our knees Is this an idolatrous worshipping of our Meat I have many a time seen a miserable Beggar when one hath given him Money or Meat fall down on his knees and take it saying I thank God and you Did this make the giver his Idol How sad is the case of ignorant young Christians whose Consciences must be racked or cheated by such Sophistry because their wits be not ripe enough to find out the deceit II. Another Argument That is not unlawful which God commandeth us in general to choose and do and so alloweth in the Particulars But such are the Twenty Things before mentioned c. God commandeth us to do all things in Love and Concord and Order to edification This must needs reach to the undetermined circumstances We cannot worship God publickly at all but it must be in some words in some gestures in some time in some place nor profess our Faith and Covenant-consent but by some sign and so of the rest If you choose no one when God hath tied us to none but bid us choose to edification we break his General Law If you can prove that we choose amiss the Fault will be not that we choose but that we choose not better III. That is not unlawful which Christ and his Apostles did before us without blame and belongeth also unto us But such is the use of such Modes and Circumstances of God's instituted worship which are left variable and free to occasional choice c. What Christ did I shall speak more anon Paul hath his Not the Lord but I signifying that the thing was not determined by a Law Rom. 14. He judgeth circumstantial differences such as should not break communion when yet they that kept days or kept them not and they that did eat or not eat did it as to the Lord. And did he bid them not judg each other for idolatry or say Rom. 14. 17 18. That Idolaters were acceptable to God or approved of men or Rom 15. or bid them receive Idolaters as Christ received us He regulateth their Church-Meetings How many shall speak at a Meeting and by what course and order and that women shall be vailed and not men and that they salute each other with an holy Kiss c. not by a Law that setleth the Particulars but by the General Law of doing all in order and to edification and pleadeth not Institution but the Custom of the Churches which is alterable as the signification of such acts are And St. James will have the Elders anoint the sick with Oyl for recovery which yet bindeth not us The Papists use this as an Institution as they do imposition of hands in Confirmation They say in Ordination Receive the Holy Ghost and breathe on the Person They wash the feet of one another in imitation of Christ And yet these men condemn them in this as superstitious for imitating Christ and his Apostles and Scripture-Examples and cry down Popery and at the same time call us Idolaters for going beyond Scripture-institution The same I say of their keeping Lent in imitation of Christ's forty days fast c. Is it Idolatry both to follow and not to follow Scripture-Examples To all the rest I add one Instance more Swearing by appeal to God is a most solemn act of worship but the sign of taking an Oath is left free to convenient choice Abraham's Servant did it by putting his hand under his thigh Was this a common Law or Institution Others did it otherwise We do it by laying our hand on the Book and kissing it These are neither sinful additions or Idolatry The Memorial of God's Works and Mens Covenants were kept sometime by pitching Stones sometime by Pillars sometime by set days as the Feast of Purim sometime by laying up the Ensigns as Goliah's Sword c. And all these lawful and no Ido latry IV. Lastly I will unveil these mens Doctrine of Separation and then judg whether it be the Doctrine of Christ which is a Law of Love and Union and Peace or the Wisdom from above which is first pure then peaceable gentle c. 1. It is false that all such Secondary Modal Worship is unlawful which is not
and Physicians thô we may be restrained from doing publick hurt on such pretences And it belong to Family Government to educate our own Children and choose their Tutors Callings Wives c. so it more nearly belongs to self-government to choose the most safe and profitable means of our own Salvation which no man may forbid us and to avoid that which is pernicious or hurtful and to Family-Government to do the like for our Children XXIX It is false Doctrine of those late Writers who tell us that only Sacraments sanctifie or give right to Salvation The whole Tenor of the Gospel tells us that men are brought to Faith and Repentance and to be Christians and Godly men and by Faith to be justified by the Preaching of the Gospel and that Gods word is his appointed means of Salvation which his Ministers must preach skilfully instantly in season and out of season to that End And if the Gospel be hid it is hid to them that are lost XXX The Gospel saveth not like a Charm by the bare sound or saying of the words nor the Sacrament like an Amulet But as a Moral means specially blest by him that instituted it to work on man as Man by informing his Mind perswading his Will and exciting his Affections as Men are wrought on in other Cases which methinks those called Arminians should least deny who are said to lay more of the Spirits operation on Moral suasion than their Adversaries yea and those that account it Fanaticism to expect any other gift of Prayer from the Spirit but what is given morally by use And the contrary Doctrine feigneth God to Work even constantly by Miracle And as the Papists make every Mass-Priest a Miracle Worker in Transubstantiation so do they that make the bare saying over the Words and doing the outward Acts in the Sacrament to save us ex opere operato and the Pastoral teaching and oversight of an ignorant drunken Lad or Reader to be near as great a help to Salvation as the Ministry of a wise skilful Holy and exemplary Pastor and the clear affectionate Preaching of Gods word And that tell us as Mr. Dodwell how sufficient a man is to administer the Sacramental Covenant that understands what a Covenant is in matters of Common Conversation XXXI If a Wise and Skilful and Conscionable Ministry be as needless to Edification and Salvation as some Men pretend it is as needless that they should study to be such and vain to Glory that they are such and that the Church of England hath such a Ministry and vain to expect that men should pay them any more respect than I owed my Master that never preacht but once and that drunken and divers very like him Or that they should use this as an argument to draw men to hear them XXXII If the King or Law should settle a Physician of his or a Patrons choice in every Parish it were well done if it be but to have help at hand for Volunteers Bui if he command all to use them and to use no other before them or against them where unskilful or untrusty men are placed no man is bound to obey this command No mens Law can dissolve the Law of Nature nor disoblige a man from a due care of his Life nor bind him to cast it away upon Obedience to ignorant or bad and treacherous Men. And a mans Soul is more precious than his Health or Life and he is bound to greater care of it and is no more to trust it on the will of his Superiours How vast is the difference between an ignorant rash Physician or Pastor and one that is wise experienced and trusty They that scorn Men for going for greater edification from one to another do not so if a man prefer a skilful Physician to one that kills more than he cures or a skilful and careful Tutor for his Son yea or a Farrier for his Horse XXXIII If one Preacher be not for Edification to be greatly preferred before another then One Book is not And so it 's no matter what Book they read or value and what a Student will this make And what a Trade for the Booksellers And why then should their own Books be so valued And why then do they silence hundreds or thousands and forbid them to preach on pain of ruine thô no false Doctrine be proved against them if they think not that the difference is very great XXXIV When Councils hereticated and condemned Thousands or Hundreds of Priests and Bishops whom Christian Emperours and Princes owned as Orthodox they did not then think every Patron Prince or Prelate a competent Judge with what Pastor Men should trust the conduct of their Souls Nor did they think so that forbad men hearing fornicators Nor Cyprian that required the People to forsake Basilides and Martial Peccatorem Praepositum XXXV So full was the proof given in the Book called The first Plea for Peace that the Church from the beginning denyed Princes and Magistrates to be entrusted with the choice of Bishops or Pastors to whom the Churches were bound to trust the conduct of their Souls that he who denyeth it is not worthy to be therein disputed with And yet we doubt not but they may force Infidel Subjects and Catechumens to hear sound and setled Preachers and Catechists And may dispose of the Tythes Temples and many other Accidents of the Church and may drive on Pastors and People to their Duty XXXVI It is false Doctrine that two distinct Churches may not be in the same Precincts or City This being a meer Accident which abundance of Cases make unnecessary and unlawful Which I shall prove That which is no where commanded by God is no duty But that there shall be but one Church or Bishop in the same Precincts is not commanded of God Ergo c. Divine of Gods making They own the Major in the case of Indifferent thing If they deny the Minor let the affirmers prove any such command We grant a command of Love and Concord and a prohibition of all that is against them But in many instances to have several Churches in the same precincts is not against them If they fly to the Canons of foreign Councils the reason of them we shall weigh and duely regard But they were National and had their Legislative Power only from their own Princes and their Counselling Power only from Christ And we disown all foreign Jurisdiction XXXVII In all these Cases following and more two Churches may be in the same precincts yea and a City 1. In Case that several Bishops are called justly to dwell in the same City or Diocess and many of their Flock be with them e. g. Many Bishops of England dwell long yea mostly in London or in London Diocess e. g. The Bishop of Eli dwells in the Parish of St. Andrews Holbourn Qu. Whether there he be a Subject to Dr. Stillingfleet as his Pastor and bound to obey him or