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hanging vp of it or for the Canopie Iuell Or that in the Sacrament after the wordes of Consecration there remayneth only the accidentes and shewes without the substance of breade and wyne Of the remaining of the Accidentes vvithout their substance in the Sacrament ARTICLE X. IN this Sacrament after consecration nothing in substāce remayneth that was before neither breade nor wine but onely the Accidentes of breade and wine as their forme and shape sauour smell colour weight and such the like which here haue their being miraculously without their subiecte for as much as after consecration there is none other substance then the substance of the body and bloud of our lord which is not affected with such accidentes as the scholasticall doctours terme it Which doctrine hath alwayes though not with these precise termes ben taught and beleued from the beginning Transubstantiatiō affirmed and depēdeth of the Article of Transubstantiation For if the substance of bread and wyne be chaunged in to the substance of the body and bloud of our lord which is cōstantly affirmed by all the learned and auncient fathers of the churche it foloweth by a necessary sequell in nature and by drifte of reason that then the accidentes onely remaine For witnes and proufe whereof I will not let to recite certaine most manifest sayinges of the olde and best approued doctours S. Cyprian that learned bishop and holy martyr sayeth thus in sermone de coena domini Panis iste quem dominus discipulis porrigebat non effigie sed natura mutatus omnipotentia verbi factus est caro This bread which our lord gaue to his disciples chaunged not in shape but in nature by the almighty power of the word he meaneth Christes word of Consecratiō is made fleshe Lo he confesseth the breade to be chaunged not in shape or forme for that remayneth but in nature that is to saye in substance And to signifie the chaunge of substance and not an accidētarie chaunge onely to witte from the vse of common breade to serue for Sacramentall bread as some of our newe Maisters doo expounde that place for a shifte he addeth great weight of wordes whereby he farre ouerpeiseth these mennes light deuise saying that by the almighty power of our lordes word it is made fleshe Verely they might consyder as they would seme to be of sharpe iudgement that to the performance of so small a matter as their sacramentall chaunge is the almighty power of gods worde is not nedefull And now if here this worde factus est may signifie an imaginatiue making then why may not verbum caro factum est likewise be expounded to the defence of sundry olde haynouse heresies against the true manhod of Christ Thus the nature of the bread in this sacrament being chaunged and the forme remayning so as it seme breade as before consecration and being made our lordes fleshe by vertue of the word the substance of bread changed into that most excellent substance of the fleshe of Christ of that which was before the accidentes remaine onely without the substance of breade The like is to be beleued of the wyne De consecrat dist 2 ca● omnia quaecūque Nothing can be playner to this purpose then the sayinges of S. Ambros. Licet figura panis vini videatur nihil tamen aliud quam caro Christi et sanguis post consecrationem credendum est Although sayeth he the forme of bread and wyne be sene yet after consecration we must beleue they are nothing elles but the fleshe and bloud of Christ After the opinion of this father the shewe and figure of breade and wyne are sene and therefore remaine after cōsecratiō And if we must beleue that which was breade and wyne before to be no other thing but the fleshe and bloud of Christ then are they no other thing in dede For if they were we might so beleue For beleefe is grownded vpon truth and what so euer is not true it is not to be beleued Hereof it foloweth that after consecratiō the accidētes and shewes onely remayne without the substāce of breade and wyne De Sacramētis lib. 4. cap. 4. In an other place he sayeth as much Panis iste etc. This bread before the wordes of the Sacramētes is bread as sone as the cōsecratiō cōmeth of bread is made the body of Christ Againe in an other place he sayeth most plainely De ijs qui initiātur That the power of consecration is greatter then the power of nature because nature is chaunged by consecration By this father it is euident that the nature that is to saye the substance of breade and wine by consecration being chaunged into the body and bloude of Christ their natural qualities which be accidentes contynewing vnchaunged for performance of the Sacrament remayne without the substance of bread and wyne According vnto the which meaning Theodoritus sayeth videri tangi possunt sicut prius Dialog 2. Intelligūtur autem ea esse quae facta sunt creduntur The breade and wyne may be sene and felte as before cōsecratiō but they are vnderstāded to be the thinges which they are made and beleued We do not in like sorte sayeth S. Augustine take these two formes of breade and wine after cōsecratiō as we tooke them before In lib Sētent Prosperi de cōse dict 2. ca. Nos autem Sith that we graunt faithfully that before consecration it is bread and wyne that nature hath shapte but after consecration that it is the fleshe and bloud of Christ that the blessing hath consecrated De verbis domini Secundū Lucā Sermone 28. In an other place he sayeth that this is not the bread which goeth in to the body meaning for bodily sustenance but that bread of life qui animae nostrae substantiam fulcit which susteineth the substance of our soule No mā can speake more plainely hereof then Cyrillꝰ Hierosolymitanus an olde auctor who wrote in greke and is extant but as yet remayning in written hāde and commen to the sighte of fewe learned men His wordes be not much vnlike the wordes of the scole-doctoures Praebetur corpus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in specie siue figura panis Item praebetur sanguis 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Christes body sayeth he is geuen vs in forme or figure of bread Againe his bloud is geuen vs in forme of wine A litle after these wordes he sayeth thus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 etc. Ne mentem adhibeas quasi pani vino nudis sunt enim haec corpus sanguis vt Dominus pronunciauit Nam tametsi illud tibi sensus suggerit esse scilicet panem vinum nudum tamen firmet te fides ne gustatu rem dijudices quin potius pro certo ac comperto habe omni duhitatione relicta esse tibi impartitum corpus sanguinem Christi Consyder not sayeth this father these as bare bread and wyne For these are his body
and bloud as our lord sayde For although thy sense reporte to thee so much that it is bare bread and wyne yet let thy faith staye thee and iudge not thereof by thy taste but rather be right well assured all doubte put a parte that the body and bloud of Christ is geuen to thee Againe he sayeth thus in the same place Haec cum scias pro certo explorato habeas qui videtur esse panis nō esse sed corpus Christi item quod videtur vinum non esse quanquam id velit sensus sed sanguinem Christi ac de eo prophetam dixisse panis cor hominis confirmat firma ipse cor sumpto hoc pane vtpote spirituali Where as thou knowest this for a very certainetie that that which semeth to be wyne is not wyne albeit the sense maketh that accompte of it but the bloud of Christ and that the prophete therereof sayde bread strengthneth the hart of man strengthen thou thy selfe thy harte by taking this bread as that which is spirituall And in 3. Catechesi this father sayeth Panis Eucharistiae post inuocationem sancti Spiritus non amplius est panis nudus simplex Sed corpus etc. The bread of the Sacrament after prayer made to the holy ghost is not bare and simple bread but the body of Christ Now sith that by this doctours plaine declaratiō of the catholike faith in this point we ought to beleue and to be verely assured that the bread is no more bread after cōsecration but the very body of Christ and the wyne no more wyne but his pretiouse bloud though they seme to the eye otherwise though taste and feeling iudge otherwise and to be shorte though all senses reporte the contrary and all this vpon warrant of our lordes word who sayde these to be his body and bloud and that as he teacheth not in the bread and wyne And further sith we are taught by Eusebius Emisenus in his homilies of Easter to beleue terrena cōmutari transire the earthly thinges to be chaunged and to passe againe creaturas conuerti in substantiam corporis Christi the creatures of bread and wyne to be tourned in to the substāce of our lordes body and bloud which is the very trāsubstantiation Transubstantion In Liturgia And sith Chrysostom sayeth Panem absumi that the bread is consumed awaie by the substance of Christes bodye And Damascen Lib. 4. de orthodoxa fi c. 14. In Mar. 14 bread and wine trāsmutari supernaturaliter to be chaunged aboue the course of nature and Theophylact the bread transelementari in carnem domini to be quite tourned by chaunging of the elementes that is the matter or substance it consisteth of into the fleshe of our lorde and in an other place In Matth. 26. ineffabili operatione trāsformari etiamsi panis nobis videatur that the bread is trāsformed or chaunged into an other substantiall forme he meaneth that of our lordes body by vnspeakeable working though it seme to be bread The treatises of these greke vvriters haue ben set forth of late by one Claudius de Sainctes Finally sith that the greke Doctours of late age affirme the same doctrine among whom Samona vseth for persuasion of it the similitude which Gregorie Nyssene and Damascen for declaration of the same vsed before which is that in consecration such maner transubstantiation is made as is the conuersion of the bread in nourrishing in which it is tourned into the substance of the nourrished Methonensis like S. Ambrose would not men in this matter to looke for the order of nature seing that Christ was borne of a virgine besyde all order of nature and sayeth that our lordes bodye in this Sacrament is receiued vnder the forme or shape of an other thing least bloud shuld cause it to be horrible Nicolaus Cabasila sayeth that this bread is no more a figure of our lordes bodye Cap. 27. neither a gifte bearing an image of the true gifte nor bearing any description of the passiōs of our Sauiour him selfe as it were in a table but the true gifte it selfe the most holy bodye of our lord it selfe which hath truly receiued reproches contumelies stripes which was crucified which was kylled Marcus Ephesius though otherwise to be reiected as he that obstinatly resisted the determination of the Councell of Florence concerning the proceding of the holy ghost out of the sonne yet a sufficient witnes of the Greke churches faith in this point affirming the thinges offred to be called of S. Basile antitypa that is the samplers and figures of our lordes bodye because they be not yet perfitely consecrated but as yet bearing the figure and image referreth the chaunge or transubstantiation of them to the holy ghost donec Spiritus sanctus adueniat qui ea muter these giftes offered sayeth he be of S. Basile called figures vntill the holy ghost come vpon them to chaunge them Whereby he sheweth the faith of the Greke church that through the holy ghost in consecration the bread and wine are so chaunged as they maye no more be called figures but the very bodye and bloud of our lord it selfe as into the same chaunged by the comming of the holy ghost Which chaunge is a chaunge in substance and therefore it may rightly be termed trāsubstātiation Transubstātiatiō which is nothing elles but a tourning or chaunging of one substance into an other substance Sith for this point of our religiō we haue so good auctoritie and being thus assured of the infallible faith of the churche declared by the testimonies of these worthy fathers of diuerse ages and quarters of the worlde we may well saye with the same churche against M. Iuell that in this Sacrament after consecration there remayneth nothing of that which was before but only the accidentes and shewes without the substance of bread and wyne And this is a matter to a Christen man not hard to beleue For if it please God the almightie Creator in the condition and state of thinges thus to ordeine that substāces created beare and susteine accidētes why may not he by his almighty power cōserue and kepe also accidētes without substāce sith that the very hethen philosophers repute it for an absurditie to saye primam causam non posse id praestare solam quod possit cum secunda that is to saye that the first cause whereby they vnderstand God can not doo that alone which he can doo with the secōd cause where by they meane a creature And that this being of accidentes without substance or subiecte in this Sacramēt vnder which the bread not remaining the bodye of Christ is present maye the rather be beleued it is to be consydered that this thing tooke place at the first creatiō of the world Basilius hexaemerō hom 6 Damas li. 2. cap. 7. Paulꝰ Burgensis Gene. 1. after the opinion of some Doctoures Who do affirme that that first light which was at
in the throne and to the lambe for euer And the fouer and tvventie elders fell dovvne on their faces and adored him that lyueth vntill vvorldes of vvorldes But it shall be more tediouse then nedefull to recite places out of the scriptures for proufe of th'adoratiō of Christ there may of thē be fownde so great plentie Contrarietie in the first diuisers of the nevve gospell Yet because Luther was either so blinde or rather so deuilishe as to denye th'adoration where notwithstāding he cōfessed the presence of Christes true and natural body in the Sacrament I will here recite what the Sacramentaries of Zurich haue written against him therefore What saye they is the bread the true and natural body of Christ and is Christ in the supper as the Pope and Luther doo teache present Wherefore then ought not the lord there to be adored where ye saye him to be present Why shall we be forbydden to adore that which is not onely sacramentally but also corporally the body of Christ Thomas toucheth the true body of Christ raysed vp from the dead and falling downe on his knees adoreth saying My God and my lord The disciples adore the lord as well before as after his Ascension Matth. 28. Act. 1. And the lord in S. Iohn sayeth to the blinde man Ioan. 9. beleuest thou in the sonne of God and he answered him saying Lord who is he that I may beleue in him And Iesus sayed to him Thou hast bothe sene him and who speaketh with thee he it is Then he sayeth lord I beleue and he adored him Now if we taught our lordes bread to be the natural body of Christ verely we would adore it also faithfully with the papistes This much the Zuinglians against Luther Whereby they prooue sufficiently th'adoration of Christes body in the Sacrament and so consequently of Christ him selfe God and man because of the inseparable coniunction of his diuine and humaine nature in vnitie of persone so as where his body is there is it ioyned and vnited also vnto his godhed and so there Christ is present perfitely wholly and substantially very god and man For the cleare vnderstanding whereof the better to be atteined the scholastical Diuines haue profitably deuised the terme concomitantia plainely and truly teaching that in this Sacrament after consecration vnder the forme of breade is present the body of Christ and vnder the forme of wine his bloud ex vi sacramenti and with the body vnder forme of bread also the bloud the soule and godhed of Christ and likewise with the bloud vnder the forme of wyne the body soule and godhed ex concomitantia as they terme it in shorter and playner wise vttering the same doctrine of faith which the holy fathers dyd in the Ephesme councell against Nestorius Whereby they meane that where the body of Christ is present by necessary sequell because of the indiuisible copulation of bothe natures in the vnitie of person for as much as the Word made fleshe neuer lefte the humaine nature there is also his bloud his soule his godhed and so whole and perfite Christ God and man And in this respecte the terme is not to be misliked of any godly learned man though some newe Maisters scoffe at it who fill the measure of their predecessours that likewise haue ben offended with termes for the apter declaration of certaine necessary articles of our faith by holy and learned fathers in generall councelles holesomly deuised Of which sorte ben these homousion humanatio incarnatio transubstantiatio etc. Now here is to be noted how the Zuinglians whom M. Iuell foloweth in th'article of adoration confute the Lutherans as on the other syde the Lutherans in th'article of the presence confute the Zuinglians As though it were by gods speciall prouidence for the better staye of his churche so wrought that bothe the truth shuld be confessed by the enemies of truth and also for vttering of vntruth the one shuld be condemned of the other that by the warre of heretikes the peace of the churche might be established and by their discorde the catholike people might the faster grewe together in concorde Now hauing sufficiētly proued by the scriptures and that with the Zuingliās also adoration and godly honour to be due vnto Christes body where so euer it please his diuine maiestie to exhibit the same present let vs see whether we can finde the same doctrine affirmed by the holy and auncient fathers What the Apostles taught in their tyme concerning this Article we may iudge by that we reade in Dionysius that was S. Paules scholer and for that is to beleued He adoreth and worshippeth this holy mysterie with these very wordes Ecclesias hierarch cap. 3. Sed ò diuinum penitus sanctumque mysterium etc. But ô diuine and holy mysterie which vouchesafest to open the cooueringes of signes layd ouer the vtter thy light to vs openly and plainely and fill our spirituall eyes with the singular and euident brightnes of thy light Origen teacheth vs how to adore and worship Christ in the Sacrament before we receiue it after this forme of wordes Hom 5. in diuersos Euangelij locos Quādo sanctum cibum etc. when thou receiuest the holy meate and that vncorrupt banket when thou enioyest the bread and cuppe of lyfe thou eatest and drinkest the body and bloud of our lord then our lord entreth in vnder thy roofe And therefor thou also humbling thy selfe folowe this Cēturion or captaine and saye Lord I am not vvorthy that thou enter vnder my roofe For where he entreth in vnworthely there he entreth in to the condemnation of the receiuer What can be thought of S. Cyprian but that he adored the inuisible thing of this Sacrament which is the body and bloud of Christ seing that he confesseth the godhed to be in the same nolesse then it was in the person of Christ which he vttereth by these wordes In Ser. d● coena do Panis iste quem dominus discipulis porrigebat etc. This bread which our lord gaue to his disciples chaunged not in shape but in nature by the almighty power of god is made fleshe And as in the person of Christ the manhode was sene and the godhed was hydden euen so the diuine essence hath vnspeakeably infused it selfe into the visible sacramēt Chrysostom hath a notable place for the adoration of Christes body in the Sacrament in his commentaries vpon S. Paul In 10. cap. prioris ad Corinth where he affirmeth also the real presence and the sacrifice Let vs not let vs not sayeth he be willing impudently to kill our selues And when thou seest that body set forth saye with thy selfe for cause of this body I am no lenger earth and ashes no lenger captiue but free This body fastened on the Crosse and beaten was not ouercome with death After this he exhorteth all to adore and worship our lordes body in the Sacrament This body sayeth he the wise men worshipped
also and that chiefly a diuine thinge vnder them according to christes promisse couertly conteined specially this being weyed that this most holy Sacramēt consisteth of these two thinges to witte of the visible forme of the outward elemētes and the inuisible fleshe and bloud of Christ that is to saye of the Sacrament and of the thing of the sacrament Tertullian may seme to speake of these two partes of the sacramēt ioyntly in this one sentēce For first he speaketh most plainely of the very body of Christ in the Sacramēt and of the maruelouse tournīg of the breade into the same the breade sayeth he that he tooke and gaue to his disciples he made it his body Which is the diuine thing of the sacramēt Then forthwith he sayeth that our lord dyd it by sayng This is my body that is the figure of my body By which wordes he sheweth the other parte the sacramēt onely that is to saye that holy outward signe of the forme of breade vnder which forme Christes body into the which the breade by gods power is tourned is conteined which outward forme is verely the figure of Christes body present which our lord vnder the same conteined delyuered to his disciples and now is likewise at that holy table to the faithfull people delyuered where the order of the catholike churche is not broken That Tertullian in this place is so to be vnderstanded we are taught by the great learned bishop saint Augustine and by Hilarius who was bishop of Rome nexte after Leo the first Saint Augustines wordes be these De cōsec dist 2. canon vtrūsub figura Corpus Christi veritas figura est Veritas dum corpus Christi sanguis in virtute Spiritus sancti ex panis vini substantia efficitur Figura verò est quod exterius sentitur The body of Christ is both the truth and the figure The truth whiles the body of Christ and his bloud by the power of the holy ghost is made of the substance of bread and wine And it is the figure that is with outward sense perceiued Where S. Augustine here sayeth the body and bloude of Christ to be made of the substance of bread and wine beware thou vnlearned man thou thinke not them thereof to be made as though they were newely created of the matter of bread and wine neither that they be made of breade and wine as of a matter but that where bread and wine were before after consecration there is the very body and bloud of Christ borne of the virgine Mary and that in substance in sorte and maner to our weake reason incomprehensible Dist 2. cano corpus Christi The wordes of Hilarius the Pope vtter the same doctrine Corpus Christi quod sumitur de altari figura est dum panis vinum videtur extrà Veritas autem dum corpus Christi interius creditur The body of Christ which is receiued from the aulter is the figure whiles bread and wine are sene outwardly And it is the truth whiles the body and bloud of Christ are beleued inwardly Thus the fathers call not onely the sacramēt but also the body and bloud of Christ it selfe in the sacrament sometymes the truth sometymes a figure the truth that is to witte the very and true body and bloud of Christ a figure in respecte of the maner of being of the same there present which is really and substantially but inuisibly vnder the visible forme of the outward elementes And so Tertullian meaneth by his that is the figure of my body as though Christ had shewed by the word Hoc that which was visible which verely is the figure of the body right so as that which is the inuisible inward thing is the truth of the body Which interpretation of Tertullian in dede is not according to the right sense of Christes wordes though his meaning swarue not from the truth For where as our lord sayde this is my body he meant not so as though he had sayde the outward forme of the Sacrament which here I delyuer to you is a figure of my body vnder the same conteined for as much as by these wordes Hoc est he shewed not the visible forme of breade but the substance of his very body in to which by his diuine power he tourned the bread And therefore none of all the fathers euer so expownded those wordes of Christ but cōtrary wise namely Theophylacte and Damascen He sayd not sayeth Theophylact This is a figure In Matth. cap. 26. Lib. 4. ca. 14. but this is my body The bread nor the wyne meaning their outward formes sayeth Damascen is not a figure of the body and bloud of Christ Not so in no wise But it is the body it selfe of our lord deificated sith our lord him selfe sayeth This is my body not the figure of my body but my body and not the figure of my bloud but my bloud etc. And the cause why Tertullian so expownded these wordes of Christ was that thereby he might take aduantage against Marcion the heretike as many tymes the fathers in heate of disputatiō doo hādle some places not after the exacte signification of the wordes but rather folowe such waye as serueth thē best to confut their aduersarie Which maner not reporting any vntruth S. Basile doth excuse in the setting forth of a disputation not in prescribing of a doctrine Epist 64. As he defendeth Gregorius Neocaesariensis against the Sabellianes for that in a contentiō he had with Aelianus an Ethnike to declare the mysteries of the trinitie he vsed the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in stede of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And the learned men that be well sene in the fathers knowe they must vse a discretion and a sundry iudgement betwen the thinges they write agonisticῶs that is to saye by waye of contention or disputation and the thinges they vtter dogmaticῶs that is by waie of setting forth a doctrine or matter of faith Neither in that contention dyd Tertullian so much regard the exacte vse of wordes as how he might wynne his purpose and driue his aduersarie denying that Christ tooke the true body of man and that he suffered death in dede to confesse the truth which he thought to bring to passe by deducing an argument from the figure of his body which consisteth in that which is visible in the sacrament to proue the veritie of his body and therefore in framing his reason by waie of illation he sayeth Figura autem non esset nisi veritatis esset corpus There were not a figure onlesse there were a body of truth or a very body in dede And whereas Tertullian vseth this word figure in this place it is not to be vnderstanded to be such The vvordes figure signe token etc. exclude not the truth as the figures of the olde testament bee as though it signified the shewing of a thing to come or of a thing absent which is wonte to
Or that it vvas then thought a sovvnde doctrine to teache the people that the Masse ex opere operato that is euen for that it is sayde and donne is hable to remoue any part of oure synne Article 21 Or that then any Christian man called the Sacrament his lorde and God Article 22 Or that the people vvas then taught to beleue that the body of christ remaineth in the Sacrament as long as the accidētes of the bread remayne there vvith out corruptiō Article 23 Or that a Mouse or any other vvorme or beaste maye eate the body of Christ for so some of oure aduersaries haue sayd and taught Article 24 Or that vvhen Christ sayde Hoe est corpus meum This vvord Hoc pointeth not the bread but indiuiduum vagum as summe of them saye Article 25 Or that the accidentes or formes or shevves of bread and vvyne be the Sacramentes of Christes body and bloud and not rather the very bread and vvyne it selfe Article 26 Or that the Sacrament is a signe or token of the body of Christ that lyeth hydden vnderneathe it Article 27 Or that Ignoraunce is the mother and cause of true deuotion and obedience These be the highest mysteries and greatest keys of theire Religion and vvith out them their doctrine can neuer be mainteined and stand vpright If any one of all oure aduersaries be hable to auouch any one of all these articles by any such sufficient authoritie of scriptures doctoures or councelles as I haue required as I sayde before so saye I novv agayne I am content to yelde vnto him and to subscribe But I am vvell assured they shall neuer be hable truly to alleage one sentence And because I knovv it therefor I speake it lest ye happely shuld be deceiued They that haue auaunted them selues of doctoures and councelles and cōtinuance of tyme in any of these pointes Fol. 51. vvhen they shall be called to tryall to shew their proufes they shall open their handes and fynde nothing I speake not this of arrogancie thou lord knovvest it best that knovvest all thinges But for as muche as it is godes cause and the truth of God I shuld doo God great iniurie if I shuld concele it THE VVORDES OF MAISTER THE SAME CHALENGE AND offer and imputing to the catholikes of vnhablenes to defend their doctrine vttered by M. Iuell in other places of his booke as folovveth MY offer vvas this he meaneth in the sermon vvich he made in the courte that if any of all those thinges that I then rehearsed In the first ansvver to D. Coles letter fol. 4. could be proued of your syde by any sufficiēt authoritie other of the scriptures or of the aunciēt Councelles or by any one allovved example of the primitiue churche that then I vvould be content to yelde vnto you I saye you haue none of all those helps nor scriptures nor councelles nor doctours nother any other antiquitie and this is the negatiue Novv it standeth you vpon to proue but one affirmatiue to the contrary and so to requyre my promise The Articles that I sayde could not be proued of your parte vvere these That it can not appeare by any authoritie other of the olde doctours or of the auncient Councelles that there vvas any priuate Masse in the vvhole churche of Christ at that tyme Or that there vvas then any communion ministred etc. the articles rekened there it foloweth And if any one of all these articles can be sufficiently proued by such atuhoritie as I haue sayde Fol. 5. and as ye haue borne the people in hand ye can proue them by I am vvell content to stand to my promise After in the first ansvver to D. C. fol. 6. In the ende there fol. 7. I thought it best to make my entree vvith such thinges as vvhere in I vvas vvell assured ye shuld be able to finde not so much as any colour at all But to conclude as I begane I ansvver that in these Articles I hold only the negatiue and therefore I looke hovv you vvil be able to affirme the cōtrarie and that as I sayde afore by sufficient authoritie vvhich if ye doo not you shall cause me the more to be resolued and others to stand the more in doubt of the rest of your learning In my Sermon at poules and els vvhere I required you to bring forth on your part eyther sum scripture sn the second ansvver to D. C. fo 13 or sum old doctour or sum aunciēt councell or els some allovve example of the primiue churchē For these are good grovvndes to buyld vpon And I vvould haue marueiled that you brought nothing all this vvhile sauing that I knevv ye had nothing to bring As truly as god is god if ye vvold haue vouchesaued to folovv either the scriptures or the auncient doctours In the 2. ansvver fol. 15. and councelles ye vvold neuer haue restored agayne the Sup̄macie of Rome after it vvas once abolished or the priuate Masse or the communion vnder one kinde etc. Novv if ye thinke ye haue vvrong There fol. 17. shevv your euidence out of the doctours the councels or scriptures that you may haue yout right and reentre I require you to no great paine one good sentence shall be sufficient You vvold haue your priuate Masse the bisshop of Romes sup̄macie the commē prayer in an vnknovven tonge Fol. 18. and for defence of the same ye haue made no small a doo Me thinketh it reasonable ye bring sum one authoritie besyde your ovvne to auouche the same vvith all Ye haue made the vnlearned people beleue ye had all the doctours all the councelles and fiften hundred yeres on your syde For your credites sake let not all these great vauntes comme to naught Ye desyre ye may not be put of Fol. 18. but that your suite maye be consydered And yet this half yeare long I haue desyred of you and of your brethren but one sentence and still I knovv not hovv I am cast of and can gete nothing at your handes You call for the special proufes of our doctrine Fol. 21. vvhich vvould require a vvhole booke vvhere as if you of your part could vouchesafe to bring but tvvo lines the vvhole matter vvere concluded VVe only tell the people as our devvtie is that you vvithstand the manifest truth and yet haue neither doctour nor councell nor scripture for you and that ye haue shevved such extremitie as the like hath not bē seene and novv cā giue no rekening vvhy Or if ye can let it appeare Fol. 23. You are bovvnde ye saye and maye not dispute etc. But I vvould vvish the quenes Maiestie vvould not only set you at libertie in that behalfe but also cōmaunde you to shevve your grovvndes VVhere as you saye you vvould haue the sainges of bothe parties vveighed by the balance of the olde doctours ye see that is oure only request and that in the matters ye vvrite of I
only but as one suer of the victory before proufe of fight cast your gloue as it were and with straunge defyaunce prouoke all learned mē that be a lyue to campe with you Now if this matter shall so fall out as thouerthrowe appeare euidently on our syde and the victory on youres that is to witte if we can not bring one sentence for proufe of any one of all these articles out of the scriptures aunciēt councelles doctours or example of the primitiue churche yet wise and graue men I suppose would haue lyked you better if you had meekely and soberly reported the truth For truth as it is playne and simple so it needeth not to be set forth with bragge of high wordes You remember that old saying of the wise Simplex veritatis oratio the vtteraunce of truth ought to be simple But if the victory loth I am to vse this insolēt word were it not to folow the metaphore which your chalenge hath dryuen me vnto fall to our syde that is to saye if we shalle be hable to alleage some one sufficient sentēce for proufe of some one of all these articles yea if we shall be hable to alleage diuerse and sundry sentences places and authorities for confirmation of sundry these articles In this case I wene you shall hardly escape amōg sober mē the reproche of rashnes among humble men of presumptiō among godly men of wickednes Of rashnes for what can be more rashe then in so weighty matters as some of these articles import so boldly to affirme that the contrary where of may sufficiētly be proued of presumption for what can be more presumptuouse then in matters by you not thoroughly sene and weighed to impute ignoraunce and vnablenes to auouche thinges approued and receiued by the churche to all learned men a lyue Of wickednes for what is more wicked then the former case standing so to remoue the hartes of the people from deuotion so to bring the churche in to contempte so to set at nought the ordinances of the holy ghost As you folow the new and straunge doctrine of Theodorus Beza and Peter Martyr the prolocutours of the Caluinian churches in Fraunce whose scolar a long tyme you haue ben so you diuerte farre from that prudencie sobrietie and modestie which in their owtward demeanour they shewed in that solemne and honorable assemble at Poyssi in September 1561. as it appareth by the oration which Beza pronunced there in the name of all the Caluinistes In which oration with humble and often protestation they submitte them selues if cause shall so appeare to better aduise and iudgement as thoug they might be deceiued vttering these and the like wordes in sundry places If we be deceiued we would be gladde to know it Item For the small measure of knowledge that it hath pleased God to impart vnto vs it semeth that this transubstantiation etc. Item if we be not deceiued Item In case we be deciued we would be gladde to vnderstād it etc. But you Maister Iuell as though you had readde all that euer hath ben writtē in these pointes and had borne a waye all that euer-hath ben taught and were ignorant of nothing touching the same and none other besyde you had sene ought and were hable to saye ought saye meruelouse confidently and that in the most honorable and frequent audience of this Realme that you are well assured that none of your learned aduersaries no nore all the learned men a lyue shall euer be hable to alleage one sentence for any one of these Articles In the sermō fol. 49 and that because you know it therefor you speake it least happely your hearers shuld be deceiued Likewise in your answere to Doctour Coles first letter you saye speaking of these Articles you thought it best to make your entre in your preaching with such thinges Fol 6. as where in you were well assured we shuld be hable to fynde not so much as any colour or shadow of Doctours at all Where in you withdraw your self from plainenesse so much as you doo in your presumptuouse chalenge from modestie For being demaunded of D. Cole why you treate not rather of matters of more importāce then these Articles be of which yet lye in question betwixt the churche of Rome and the protestantes as of the presence of Christes body and bloud in the Sacrament of Iustification of the valew of good workes of the sacrifice of the Masse and of such other not vnwitting how much and how sufficient authoritie maye be brought against your syde for proufe of the catholike doctrine there in least all the world shuld espye your weakenes in these pointes you answer that you thought it better to begynne with smaller matters as these Articles be because you assure your self we haue nothing for cōfirmation of them Thus craftely you shifte your handes of those greater pointes wherin you know scriptures councelles doctours and examples of the primitiue churche to be of our syde and cast vnto vs as a bone to gnaw vpō this number of Articles of lesse weight a fewe excepted to occupie vs withall Which be partly concerning order rather then doctrine and partly sequeles of former and cōfessed truthes rather thē principall pointes of faith in th'exact treatie of which the aunciēt doctours of the churche haue not imployed their studie and trauaile of writing For many of thē being sequeles depending of a confessed truth they thought it needelesse to treate of them For as much as a principall point of truth graunted the graunting of all the necessarie sequeles is implyed As in a chayne Epist ad Gregoriū fratrem which comparison S. Basile maketh in the like case he that draweth the first lynk after him draweth also the last lynke And for this cause in dede the lesse number and weight of such auncient auctorities may be brought for th'auouching of thē And yet the thinges in them expressed be not iustly improued by any clause or sentence you haue sayde or vttered hytherto Verely M. Iuell if you had not bē more desyrouse to deface the catholike churche then to set forth the truth you would neuer haue rehearced such a long rolle of articles which for the more part be of lesse importance whereby you go about to discredite vs and to make the world beleue we haue nothing to shew for vs in a great part of our Religion and that you be to be taken for zelouse men right reformers of the churche and vndoubted restorers of the gospell As touching the other weighty pointes whereupon almost only your scoolemaisters of Germanie Suityerland and Geneua bothe in their preachinges and also in their writinges treate you will not yet aduenture the triall of them with making your matche with learned men and in the meane tyme set them forth by sermōs busyly among the vnlearned and simple people vntill such tyme as you haue wonne your purpose in these smaller matters Thus you seme to folow a sleight
praecipuè ecclesia Romana quae Caput est omnium ecclesiarum and specially the church of Rome which is the Head of all the churches Naming the church of Rome he meaneth the bishop there or his legates to be sent in his stede Thus it is proued by good and auncient auctorities that the name and title of the Head ruler president chiefe and principall gouernour of the church is of the fathers attributed not onely to Peter but also to his successours bishops of the See Apostolike And therefore M. Iuell may thinke him selfe by this charitably admonished to remember his promise of yelding and subscribing I will adde to all that hath ben hytherto sayde of this matter a saying of Martin Luther that such as doo litle regarde the grauitie of auncient fathers of the olde church may yet somewhat be moued with the lightnes of the young father Luther Patriarke and fownder of their newe churche Lightnes I may well call it for in this saying which I shall here rehearse he doth not so soberly allowe the Popes Primacie The popes primacie acknovvleged by Martin Luther as in sundry other treatises he doth rashly and furiousely inueigh against the same In a litle treatise intituled Resolutio Lutheriana super propositione sua 13. de potestate papae his wordes be these Primum quod me mouet Romanum pontificem esse alijs omnibus quos saltem nouerimus se pontifices gerere superiorem est ipsa voluntas Dei quam in ipso facto videmus Neque enim sine voluntate Dei in hanc monarchiam vnquam venire potuisset Rom. Pontifex At voluntas Dei quoquo modo nota fuerit cum reuerentia suscipienda est ideoque non licet temerè Romano pontifici in suo primatu resistere Haec autem ratio tanta est vt si etiam nulla scriptura nulla alia causa esset haec tamen satis esset ad compescendam temeritatem resistentium Et hac sola ratione gloriosissimus martyr Cyprianus per multas epistolas confidentissimè gloriatur contrà omnes episcoporum quorumcunque aduersarios sicut 3. Regum legimus quòd decē tribus Israel discesserunt à Roboam filio Salomonis tamen quia voluntate Dei siue auctoritate factum est ratum apud Deum fuit Nam apud theologos omnes voluntas signi quam vocant operationem Dei non minus quàm alia signa voluntatis Dei vt praecepta prohibitiua etc. metuenda est Ideo non video quomodo sint excusati à schismatis reatu qui huic voluntati contraueniētes sese à Romani pontificis auctoritate subtrahunt Ecce haec est vna prima mihi insuperabilis ratio quae me subijcit Romano pontifici Primatū eius confiteri cogit The first thing that moueth me to thinke the B. of Rome to be ouer all other that we knowe to be bisshops is the very will of God which we see in the facte or dede it selfe for without the will of God the B. of Rome could neuer haue commen vnto this monarchie But the will of God by what meane so euer it be knowen is to be receiued reuerently And therefore it is not lawfull rashly to resiste the B. of Rome in his primacie And this is so great a reason for the same that if there were no scripture at all nor other reason yet this were ynough to stay the rashnes of them that resiste And through this onely reason the most gloriouse martyr Cyprian in many of his epistles vaunteth him selfe very boldly against all the aduersaries of Bishops what soeuer they were As in the thirde booke of the kinges we read that the ten tribes of Israel departed from Roboam Salomons sōne Yeat because it was done by the will or auctoritie of God it stoode in effecte with God For among all the diuines the will of the signe which they call the working of God is to be feared no lesse then other signes of Gods will as commaundemētes prohibitiue etc. Therefore I see not how they may be excused of the gilte of schisme which going against this will withdrawe them selues from the auctoritie of the B. of Rome Lo this is one chiefe inuincible reason that maketh me to be vnder the bisshop of Rome and compelleth me to confesse his Primacie This farre Luther Thus I haue briefly touched some deale of the scriptures of the canons and councells of the edictes of Emperours of the fathers sayinges of the reasons and of the manifolde practises of the church which are wonte to be alleaged for the Popes Primacie and supreme auctoritie With all I haue proued that which M. Iuell denyeth that the B. of Rome within sixe hundred yeres after Christ hath ben called the vniuersall bishop of no small number of men of great credite and very oftentymes Head of the vniuersall church both in termes equiualent and also expressely Now to the nexte article Or that the people was then taught to beleue Iuell that Christes body is really substantially corporally carnally or naturally in the Sacrament Of the termes really substantially corporally carnally naturally fovvnde in the Doctours treating of the true being of Christes body in the blessed Sacrament ARTICLE V. CHristen people hath euer ben taught that the body and bloud of Iesus Christ by the vnspeakeable working of the grace of God and vertue of the holy Ghoste is present in this most holy Sacrament and that verely and in dede This doctrine is fownded vppon the plaine wordes of Christ which he vttered in the institution of this sacrament expressed by the Euangelistes and by S. Paul As they were at supper sayeth Matthewe Iesus tooke breade and blessed it and brake it Matth. 26 and gaue it to his disciples and sayeth Take ye eate ye this is my body And takyng the cuppe he gaue thankes and gaue it to them saying Drynke ye all of this For this is my bloude of the newe testament which shall be shedde for many in remission of synnes With like wordes almost Marke Luke and Paul Marc. 14. Luc. 22. 1. Cor. 11. doo describe this diuine institution Neither sayde our lord onely This is my body but least some shuld doubte how his wordes are to be vnderstanded for a playne declaration of them he addeth this further Wich ys geuen for you Luc. 22. Likewise of the cuppe he sayeth not onely This is my bloude But also as it were to putte it out of all doubte Which shall be shed for many Now as faithful people doo beleue that Christ gaue not a figure of his body but his owne true and very body in substance and like wise not a figure of his bloude but his very pretiouse bloude it selfe at his passion and death on the crosse for our Redemption so they beleue also that the wordes of the institution of this Sacrament admitte no other vnderstāding but that he geueth vnto vs in these holy mysteries his selfe same body and his selfe same bloude in truth of
crucified And such maner bloud was at his passion shedde foorth of his body in sighte of them which were then present But after that Christ rose againe from the deade his body from that tyme forward euer remaineth immortall and liuely in dāger no more of any infirmitie or suffering much lesse of death but is become by diuine giftes and endowmētes a spirituall and a diuine body as to whom the godhed hath communicated diuine and godly properties and excellencies that ben aboue all mannes capacitie of vnderstanding This fleshe and body thus considered which sundry doctours call corpus spirituale deificatum a spirituall and deified body is geuen to vs in the blessed sacrament This is the doctrine of the church vttered by S. Hierome in his commentaries vppon th'Epistle to the Ephesians where he hath these wordes Lib. 1. ca. 1. Dupliciter verò sanguis caro intelligitur vel spiritualis illa atque diuina de qua ipse dixit Caro mea vere est cibus sanguis meus verè est potus Et nisi manducaueritis carnē meam sanguinem meum biberitis non habebitis vitam aeternam vel caro quae crucifixa est sanguis qui militis effusus est lancea that is The bloud and fleshe of Christ is vnderstanded two waies either that it is that spiritual and diuine fleshe of which he spake him selfe My fleshe is verely meate and my bloud is verely drinke And excepte ye eate my fleshe and drinke my bloud ye shall not haue lyfe in you Or that fleshe which was crucified and that bloud which was shedde by pearcing of the souldiers speare And to the intent a man shuld not take this differēce according to the substance of Christes fleshe and bloud but according to the qualitie onely S. Hierome bringeth a similitude of our fleshe as of which it hath ben in double respecte sayde Iuxta hanc diuisionem in sanctis etiam diuersitas sanguinis carnis accipitur vt alia sit caro quae visura est salutare Dei Luc. 3. alia caro sanguis quae regnum Dei nō queant possidere 1. Cor. 15. According to this diuision diuersitie of bloud and fleshe is to be vnderstanded in sainctes also so as there is one fleshe which shal see the saluacion of God and an other fleshe and bloud which may not possesse the kingdom of God Which two states of fleshe and bloud seme as it appeareth to the vnlearned quite contrarie But Saint Paul dissolueth this doubte in the fiftenth chapter of his first epistle to the Corinthians saying that fleshe of such sorte as we beare about vs in this lyfe earthly mortal fraile and bourthenouse to the soule can not possesse the kingdom of God because corruption shal not possesse incorruption But after resurrection we shal haue a spirituall gloriouse incorruptible and immortall flesh and like in figure to the gloriouse body of Christ as S. Paul sayeth This corruptible body must putte on incorruption and this mortall immortalitie Then such fleshe or our fleshe of that maner and sorte shall possesse the kingdom of God and shal beholde God him selfe And yet our fleshe now corruptible and then incorruptible is but one fleshe in substāce but diuerse in qualitie and propertie Euen so it is to be thought of our lordes fleshe as is afore sayde The due weghing of this differēce geueth much light to this matter and ought to staye many horrible blasphemies wickedly vttered against this most blessed Sacrament Now whereas M. Iuell denyeth that Christen people were of olde tyme taught to beleue that Christes body is really substantially corporally carnally or naturally in the Sacrament I doo plainely affirme the cōtrarie Yet I acknowledge that the learned fathers which haue so taught would not thereby seme to make it here outwardly sensible or perceptible Hom. 83. in Matt 60 ad popul Antiochen For they confesse all with Saint Chrysostome that the thing which is here geuen vs is not sensible but that vnder visible signes inuisible thinges be delyuered vnto vs. But they thought good to vse the aforesayed termes to put awaye all doubte of the being of his very body in these holy mysteries and to exclude the onely imagination phantasie figure signe token vertue or signification there of For in such wise the Sacramentaries haue vttered their doctrine in this pointe as they may seme by their manner of speaking and wryting here to represent our lordes body onely in deede being absent as kinges oftentymes are represented in a Tragedie or meane persones in a Comedie Verely the maner and waye by which it is here present and geuen to vs and receiued of vs is secrete not humaine ne naturall true for all that And we doo not atteine it by sense reason or nature but by faith For which cause we doo not ouer basely consyder and attende the visible elementes but as we are taught by the councell of Nice lifting vp our mynde and spirite we beholde by faith on that holy table put and layde so for the better signification of the real presence their terme sowndeth the Lambe of God 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that taketh awaye the synnes of the worlde And here saye they we receiue his pretiouse body and bloude 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is to saye verely and in deede which is no other wise nor lesse then this terme really importeth And touching these termes fyrst Verely or which is all one Really and substantially me thinketh M. Iuell shuld beare the more with vs for vse of the same sith that Bucer him selfe one of the greatest learned men of that syde hath allowed them yea and that after much writing against Luther in defēce of Zuinglius and Oecolampadius by him set forth and after that he had assured him selfe of the truth in this article by diuine inspiration as most constantly he affirmeth with these wordes In responsione ad Lutherū Haec non dubitamus diuinitus nobis per scripturam reuelata de hoc sacramento We doubte not sayeth he but these thinges concerning this sacramēt be reueled vnto vs from god and by the scripture If you demaunde where this may be fownde in the actes of a Councell holden betwen the Lutheranes and Zuinglianes for this very purpose in Martine Luthers house at Wittenberg in the yere of our lord 1536. you shal fynde these wordes Audiuimus D. Bucerum explicantem suam sententiam de Sacramento corporis sanguinis Domini hoc modo Cum pane vino verè substantialiter adest exhibetur sumitur corpus Christi sanguis Et sacramentali vnione panis est corpus Christi porrecto pane verè adest verè exhibetur corpus Christi We haue heard M. Bucer declare his mynde touching the sacrament of the body and bloud of our Lord in this sorte With the bread and wyne the body of Christ and his bloud is present exhibited and receiued
the begynning vntill the fourth daye was not in any subiecte but susteined by the power of God as him lyked For that first light and the sunne were as whitenesse and a body withed sayeth S. Basile Neither then was Wiclef yet borne who might teache them that the power of God can not put an accidēt without a subiect Lib. 2. histor hussitarum For so he sayeth in his booke de apostasia cap. 5. as Cochlaeus reporteth Hereof it appeareth out of what roote the Gospellers of our countrie spring Who smatching of the sape of that wicked tree and hereby shewing theire kinde appoint bowndes and borders to the power of God that is infinite and incomprehēsible And thus by those fathers we maye conclude that if God can susteine and kepe accidentes with substance he can so doo without substance Or that the priest then diuided the Sacrament in three partes and afterward receiued him selfe all alone Iuell Of diuiding the Sacrament in three partes ARTICLE XI OF the priestes receiuing the Sacrament him selfe alone ynough hath ben sayde before This terme All here smatcheth of spite For if any deuout person require to be partetaker with the priest being worthely disposed and examined he is not tourned of but with all gentlenes admitted And in this case the priest is not to be charged with receiuing all alone Albeit respecte had to the thing receiued how many so euer receiue it is all of all and all of euery one receiued Concerning the breaking of the Sacrament and the diuiding of it in three partes first it is broken by the priest that we may knowe our lord in fractione panis in the breaking of the breade as the two disciples acknowleged him to whom Iesus appeared in the daye of his Resurrection Luc. 24. as they were going to Emaus And also that thereby the passion of Christ may be represented to our remembraunce at which his pretiouse body was for our synnes broken rent and torne on the crosse And this maner was vsed at the Sacrifice in the Apostles tyme as it is witnessed by Dionysius S. Paules scoler Ecclesias hierarch cap. 3. Opertum panem Pontifex aperit in frusta concidens etc. The bishop sayeth he openeth the couered breade diuiding it in pieces etc. Now touching the diuiding of the Sacramēt in three partes The diuiding of the Sac. in three partes a tradition of the Apostles it may appeare to be a Tradition of the Apostles or otherwise a custome very auncient for as much as Sergius the bishop of Rome who lyued within lxxx yeres of the syx hundred yeres after Christ that M. Iuell referreth vs vnto wrote of the mysterie of that breaking or diuiding the outward forme of bread and declared the signification of the same It is no small argument of the antiquitie of this obseruation that S. Basile as Amphilochius writeth of him diuided the Sacramēt in three partes at his Masse as is aboue rehearsed De consecrat dist 2 can Triforme And where as Sergius sayeth that the portion of the hoste which is put in to the chalice betokeneth the body of Christ that is now risen againe and the portion which is receiued and eaten sheweth his body yet walking on the earth and that other portion remayning on the aulter signifieth his body in the sepulchre what I praye you is there herein that any man shuld be offended with all I acknowledge that the mysterie hereof is otherwise of some declared and of all to this ende to put vs in mynde of the benefites purchaced to vs by Christ in his bodye Now that this custom or mysticall ceremonie was not first ordeined by Sergius for ought that can be gathered but of him expounded onely touching the mysterie of it as vsed before his tyme from the beginning of the churche no one auncient councell or authour fownde vppon whom it may be fathered of good reason sith it hath generally ben obserued we may referre the first institution of it to the Apostles and that according to the mynde of S. Augustine whose notable saying for that behalfe is this Quod vniuersa tenet Ecclesia nec in concilijs constitutum sed semper retentum est non nisi auctoritate Apostolica traditū rectissimè creditur What sayeth he the vniuersall churche kepeth neither hath ben ordeined in councelles but hath alwaies ben obserued of good right we beleeue it hath ben delyuered to the church as a Tradition by the auctoritie of the Apostles To conclude if any sparke of godlynes remaine in our deceiued countrie men and brethren they will not scorne and dispyse this auncient ceremonie of diuiding the Sacrament in three partes at the blessed Sacrifice of the Masse whereof any occasion of euill is not onely not ministred but rather contrarywise whereby we are admonished and stirred to tender our owne soule helth and to rendre thākes to God for the great benefite of our redemption Or that who so euer had sayed the Sacrament is a figure Iuell a pledge a token or a remembraunce of Christes bodye had therefor ben iudged for an heretike Of the termes figure figne token etc. by the fathers applyed to the Sacrament ARTICLE XII IN this article we doo agree with M. Iuell in some respecte For we confesse it can not be auouched by scripture auncient councell doctour or example of the primitiue church that who so euer had sayde the Sacrament is a figure a pledge a token or a remēbraunce of Christes body had therefore ben iudged for an heretike No man of any learning euer wrote so vnlearnedly Much lesse to impute heresie to any man for saying thus hath ben any of the highest mysteries or greatest keyes of our Religion with which vntruth M. Iuell goeth abowt to deface the truth Wherefore this article semeth to haue ben put in either of malice toward the church or of ignorance or onely to fill vp the heape for lacke of better stuffe Perusing the workes of the auncient and learned fathers we fynde that oftentymes they call the Sacrament a figure a signe a token a mysterie a sampler The wordes of them vsed to this purpose in their learned tonges are these Figura Signum Symbolum Mysteriū Exemplar 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Imago etc. By which they meane not to diminish the truth of Cristes body in the Sacrament but to signifie the secrete maner of his being in the same For the better vnderstāding of such places where these termes are vsed in the matter of the Sacramēt the doctrine of S. Augustine in sententijs Prosperi may serue very well De consecrat dist 2 can hoc est quod dicimus Which is thus Hoc est quod dicimus quod omnibus modis approbare contendimus sacrificium Ecclesiae duobus confici duobus constare visibili elementorum specie inuisibili Domini nostri Iesu Christi carne sangnine Sacramento id est externo sacro signo et re sacramenti id
est corpore Christi etc. This is that we saye sayeth he which by all meanes we go about to proue that the Sacrifice of the church is made of two thinges and cōsisteth of two thinges of the visible shape of the elemētes which are breade and wine and the inuisible fleshe and bloude of our lord Iesus Christ of the Sacrament that is the outward signe and the thinge of the sacrament to witte of the body of Christ etc. By this we vnderstand that this word Sacrament is of the fathers two waies taken First for the whole substance of the Sacrament as it consisteth of the outward formes and also with all of the very body of Christ verely present as saint Augustine sayeth the Sacrifice of the Church to cōsist of these two Secondly it is taken so as it is distincte from that hydden and diuine thing of the Sacrament that is to saye for the outward formes onely which are the holy signe of Christes very body present vnder them conteined Hovv the fathers are to be vnderstāded callīg the Sacrament a figure signe token etc. Whereof we must gather that when so euer the fathers doo call this most excellent Sacrament a figure or a signe they would be vnderstanded to meane none otherwise then of those outward formes and not of Christes body it selfe which is there present not typically or figuratiuely but really and substātially onlesse perhaps respecte be had not to the body it selfe present but to the maner of presence as sometymes it happeneth So is Saint Basile to be vnderstanded in Liturgia calling the sacrament antitypon that is a sampler or à figure and that after cōsecration as the copies that be now abroade bee founde to haue So is Eustathius to be taken that great learned father of the Greke churche who so constantly defended the catholike faith against the Arians cited of Epiphanius in 7. Synodo Albe it concerning S. Basile E● 4. c. 14. in caput Matth. 26 Damascen and Euthymius likewise Epiphanius in the second Nicene councell actione 6. and Marcus Ephesius who was present at the councell of Florence would haue that place so to be taken before consecration As S. Ambrose also calling it a figure of our lordes body and bloud lib. 4. de sacram cap. 5. And if it appeare straunge to any man that S. Basile shuld call those holy mysteries antitypa after consecration let him vnderstand that this learned father thought good by that word to note the great secrete of that mysterie and to shewe a distincte condition of present thinges from thinges to come And this consideration the church semeth to haue had which in publike prayer after holy mysteries receiued maketh this humble petitiō vt quae nunc specie gerimus Sabbato 4. tēporū mēsis Septemb certae rerū veritate capiamus that in the lyfe to come we may take that in certaine truth of thinges which now we beare in shape or shewe Neither doo these wordes importe any preiudice against the truth of the presence of Christes body in the Sacrament but they signifie and vtter the most principall truth of the same when as all outward forme shape shewe figure sampler and coouer taken awaie we shall haue the fruitiō of God him selfe in sight face to face not as it were through a glasse but so as he is in truth of his Maiestie So this word antitypon thus taken in S. Basile furthereth nothing at all the Sacramentaries false doctrine against the truth of the presence of Christes body in the Sacrament And because our aduersaries doo much abuse the simplicitie of the vnlearned bearing thē in hand that after the iudgement and doctrine of th' auncient fathers the Sacrament is but a figure a signe a token or a badge and conteineth not the very body it selfe of Christ for proufe of the same alleaging certaine their sayinges vttered with the same termes I thinke good by the recitall of some the chiefe such places to shewe that they be vntruly reported and that touching the veritie of the presence in the Sacrament they taught in their dayes the same faith that is taught now in the catholike churche Holy Ephrem in a booke he wrote to those that will serch the nature of the sonne of God by mannes reason Cap. 4. sayeth thus Inspice diligenter quomodo sumēs in manibus panem benedicit ac frangit in figura immaculati corporis sui calicemque in figura pretiosi sanguinis sui benedicit tribuit discipulis suis Beholde sayeth he diligently how taking bread in his handes he blesseth it and breaketh it in the figure of his vnspotted body and blesseth the cuppe in the figure of his pretiouse bloude and geueth it to his disciples By these wordes he sheweth the partition deuision or breaking of the Sacramēt to be done no otherwise but in the outward formes which be the figure of Christes body present and vnder them conteined Which body now being gloriouse is no more broken nor parted but is indiuisible and subiect no more to any passion and after the Sacrament is broken it remaineth whole and perfite vnder eche portion Agayne by the same wordes he signifieth that outward breaking to be a certaine holy figure and representation of the crucifying of Christ and of his bloude shedding Which thing is with a more clearnes of wordes set forth by saint Augustine in Sententijs Prosperi Dum frangitur hostia De consecrat dist 2 can dum frangitur dum sanguis de calice in ora fidelium funditur quid aliud quám Dominici corporis in cruce immolatio eiusue sanguinis de latere effusio designatur Whiles the hoste is broken whiles the bloud is powred in to the mowthes of the faithfulles what other thing is thereby shewed and set forth then the sacrificing of Christes body on the crosse and the shedding of his bloud out of his syde And by so dooing the commaundement of Christ is fulfylled Doo this in my remembraunce That it may further appeare that these wordes figure signe image token and such other the like sometymes vsed in auncient writers doo not exclude the truth of thinges exhibited in the Sacrament but rather signifie the secrete maner of th'exhibiting amōgest all other the place of Tertullian in his fouerth booke contrâ Marcionem is not to be omitted specially being one of the chiefe and of most appearaunce that the Sacramentaries bring for proufe of their doctrine Tertullianes wordes be these Acceptum panem distributum discipulis suis corpus suum illum fecit hoc esse corpus meum dicēdo id est figura corporis mei The breade that he tooke and gaue to his disciples he made it his body in saying this is my body that is the figure of my body The double taking of the worde Sacrament afore mentioned remembred and consideration had how the sacramentes of the Newe testament comprehend two thinges the outward visible formes that be figures signes and tokens and
parte of Christes glorie is impayred Iuell Or that then any Christian man called the Sacrament his lord and God Of calling the Sacrament lord and God ARTICLE XXI Sacramēt tvvo vvayes taken THis word Sacramēt as is declared before is of the fathers taken two wayes Either for the onely outward formes of bread and wine which are the holy signe of the very body and bloud of Christ present and vnder them conteined Or for the whole substance of the Sacrament as it consisteth of the outward formes In sent Prosperi de conse dist 2. lib. 4. cap. 34. and also of the very body and bloud of Christ verely present which S. Augustine calleth the inuisible grace and the thing of the Sacrament And Irenaeus calleth it rem coelestem the heauenly thing as that other rem terrenam the earthly thing Taken the first waie no Christen man euer honoured it with the name of lord and God For that were plaine Idolatrie to attribute the name of the Creator to the creature But taken in the secōd signification it hath alwayes of Christen people and of the learned fathers of the churche ben called by the name of lord and God And of right so ought it to be for elles were it impietie and a denyall of God not to call Christ the sonne of God by the name of lord and God who is not onely in truth of fleshe and bloud in the Sacrament after which maner he is there ex vi Sacramenti but also for the inseparable coniunction of bothe natures in vnitie of person ex necessaria concomitantia whole Christ God and man That the holy fathers called the Sacrament taken in this sense lord and God I might proue it by many places the rehearsall of a fewe may serue for many Origen in an homilie speaking reuerently of this blessed Sacrament sayeth In diuerfos Euangelij locos homil 5. that when a man receiueth it our lord entreth vnder his rooffe and exhorteth him that shall receiue it to humble him selfe and to saye vnto it Domine non sum dignus vt intres sub tectum meum Lord I am not worthy that thou enter vnder my rooffe S. Cyprian in Sermone de lapsis telleth how a man who had denyed God in tyme of persecution hauing notwithstanding the sacrifice by the priest done priuely with others receiued the Sacrament not being able to eate it nor to handle it opening his hādes fownde that he bare asshes Where he addeth these wordes Documento vnius ostensum est dominum recedere cum negatur By this example of one man it is shewed that our lord departeth awaie when he is denyed The same S. Cyprian in th' exposition of the Pater noster declaring the fourth petition of it Geue vs thys daye our daily bread vnderstandeth it to conteine a desyre of the holy communion in this blessed Sacrament and sayeth Ideo panem nostrum id est Christum dari nobis quotidie petimus vt qui in Christo manemus viuimus à sanctificatione corpore eius non recedamus Therefore we aske our daily bread that is to saye Christ to be geuen vnto vs that we which abyde and lyue in Christ depart not from the state of holynes and communion of his bodye Here S. Cyprian calleth the Sacrament Christ as he is in dede there present really so as in the place alleaged before he calleth it lord And I wene our aduersaries will imbarre the Sacrament of the name of Christ no lesse then of the name of lord or God Onlesse they make lesse of Christ then of lord and God Verely this holy martyr acknowlegeth this sacrament not for lord and Christ onely but also for God by these wordes in his sermon de coena Domini Sicut in persona Christi humanitas videbatur latebat diuinitas ita sacramento visibili ineffabiliter diuina se infudit essentia As in the person of Christ the manhode was sene and the godhed was hydden so the diuine essence or substaunce of God hath infused it selfe into the visible sacrament vnspeakeably Chrysostom doubteth not to call the Sacrament God in this plaine saying Nolimus obsecro nolimus impudentes nos ipsos interimere In priorē ad Cor. Homil. 24 sed cum honore munditia ad Deum accedamus quando id propositum videris dic tecum propter hoc corpus non amplius terra cinis ego sum non amplius captiuus sed liber Let vs not let vs not for gods sake be so shamelesse as to kill our selues by vnworthy receiuing of the sacrament but with reuerence and cleanenesse let vs come to God And when thou seest the sacrament set forth saye thus with thy selfe by reason of this body I am no more earth and asshes no more captiue but free And least this sense taken of Chrysostom shuld seme ouer straunge this place of S. Ambrose who lyued in the same tyme and agreeth with him thoroughly in doctrine may seme to leade vs to the same Quid edamus quid bibamus De ijs qul mysterijs initiantu● cap. 9. Psal 33. alibi tibi per prophetā Spiritus sanctus expressit dicens gustate videte quoniam suauis est Dominus beatus vir qui sperat in eo in illo Sacramento Christus est quia corpus est Christi What we ought to eate and what we ought to drinke the holy ghost hath expressed by the prophete in an other place saying Taste and see how that our lord is sweete blessed is the man that trusteth in him In that Sacrament is Christ because there is the body of Christ Here S. Ambrose referring those wordes of the psalme to the sacrament calleth it lord and that lord in whom the man that trusteth is blessed who is God Agreeably to this sayeth S. Augustine In collectaneis in 10. cap. prioris ad Corinth in a sermō de verbis Euangelij as Beda reciteth Qualem vocem Domini audistis inuitantis nos Quis vos inuitauit Quos inuitauit Et quis praeparauit Inuitauit Dominus seruos praeparauit eis cibum seipsum Quis audeat māducare Dominum suum Et tamen ait qui manducat me viuet propter me What maner a uoice is that ye haue heard of our lord inuiting and bydding vs to the feast who hath inuited whom hath he inuited And who hath made preparation The lord hath inuited the seruantes and hath prepared him selfe to be meate for them Who dareth be so bolde as to eate his lord And yet he sayeth he that eateth me shall lyue for cause of me In Ioan. lib. 4. cap. 15. Cyrillus accompteth the sacrament for Christ and God the word and for God in this saying Qui carnem Christi manducat vitam habet aeternam Habet enim haec caro Dei verbum quod naturaliter vita est Proptereà dicit Quia ego resuscitabo eum in nouissimo die Ego enim dixit Ioan. 6. id est
had done their due penaunce One as he telleth there thinking to haue that blessed body which he had receiued with others in his hande when he opened the same to put it into his mowth fownde that he helde ashes And thereof S. Cyprian sayeth Documento vnius ostensum est dominum recedere cum negatur By the example of one man it was shewed that our lord departeth awaie when he is denyed It is neither wicked nor a thing vnworthy the maiestie of that holy mysterie to thinke our lordes body likewise done awaie in cases of negligence villanie and prophanation Or that when Christ sayde Hoc est corpus meum Iuell this word Hoc pointeth not the bread but Indiuiduum vagum as some of them saye What this pronoune Hoc pointeth in the vvordes of cōsecration ARTICLE XIIII VVhat so euer hoc pointeth in this saying of Christ after your iudgemēt M. Iuell right meaning and plaine christen people 2. Thes ● who through gods grace haue receiued the loue of truth and not the efficacie of illusion to beleue lying beleue verely that in this sacrament after consecration is the very body of Christ and that vpon credite of his owne wordes The benefite of the Geneuian Cōmuniō Hoc est corpus meum They that appoint them selues to folowe your Geneuian doctrine in this point deceiued by that ye teache them hoc to point the breade and by sundry other vntruthes in stede of the very body of Christ in the Sacrament rightly ministred verely present shall receiue nothing at your communion but a bare piece of bread not worth a point As for your some saye who will haue Hoc to point indiuiduum vagum first learne you well what they meane and if their meaning be naught who so euer they be handle them as you lyste therewith shall we be offended neuer a deale How this word Hoc in that saying of Christ is to be takē and what it pointeth we knowe who haue more learnedly more certainely and more truly treated thereof then Luther Zuinglius Caluin Cranmer Peter Martyr or any their ofspring Iuell Or that the accidentes or formes or shewes of bread and wyne be the Sacramentes of Christes body and bloud and not rather the breade and wyne it selfe Who are the Sacramen●tes of Christes bodye and bloud the accidentes or the bread and vvyne ARTICLE XXV FOr as much as by the almighty power of gods word pronounced by the priest in the consecration of this Sacrament the body and bloud of Christ are made really present the substance of breade tourned into the substance of the body and the substāce of wine into the substance of the bloud the breade which is consumed awaie by the fier of the diuine substance as Chrysostom sayeth In homil Paschali and now is becōme the breade which was formed by the hand of the holy ghost in the wombe of the virgine and decocted with the fyer of the passion in the aulter of the crosse as S. Ambrose sayeth De conse dist 2. ca. omnia can not be the sacrament of the body nor the wine of the bloud Neither can it be sayde that the breade and the wine which were before are the sacramentes for that the breade is becomme the body and the wyne the bloud and so now they are not and if they be not then neither be they sacramentes Therefore that the outward formes of breade and wyne which remaine be the sacramētes of Christes body and bloud and not the very bread and wine it selfe it foloweth by sequell of reason or consequent of vnderstanding deduced out of the first truth which of S. Basile in an epistle ad Sozopolitanos Epist 65. speaking against certaine that went about to raise vp againe the olde heresie of Valentinus is called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Of which sequell of reason in the matter of the Sacrament many conclusions may be deduced in case of wante of expresse scriptures Which waye of reasoning Basile vsed against heretikes as also sundry other fathers where manifest scripture might not be alleaged And whereas there must be a lykenesse betwen the sacrament and the thing of the sacrament for if the sacramētes had not a likenesse of thinges whereof they are sacramentes Aug. epis 22. ad Bonifacium Episcopū properly and rightely they shuld not be called sacramentes as the sacrament of baptisme which is the outward washing of the fleshe hath a likenesse of the inward wasshing of the soule and no likenesse here appeareth to be betwen the formes that remaine and the thing of the Sacrament for they consist not the one of many cornes the other of grapes for thereof cometh not accident but substance hereto may be sayde it is ynough that these sacramētes beare the likenesse of the body and bloud of Christ for as much as the one representeth the likenesse of breade the other the likenesse of wyne De conse dist 2. ca. hoc est quod dicimus which S. Augustine calleth visibilem speciem elementorum the visible forme of the elementes Thus the formes of breade and wine are the sacramentes of the body and bloud of Christ not onely in respecte of the thing signified which is the vnitie of the churche but also of the thing cōteined which is the very fleshe and bloud of Christ whereof the truth it selfe sayde Ioan. 6. The breade that I shall geue is my fleshe for the lyfe of the worlde Iuell Or that the Sacrament is a signe or token of the bodye of Christ that lyeth hydden vnderneathe it Of the vnspeakeable maner of the being of Christes bodye and bloud vnder the formes of breade and vvine ARTICLE XXVI THat the outward forme of bread which is properly the sacrament is the signe of the body of Christ we confesse yea of that body which is couertly in or vnder the same In libro Sentent Prosperi which S. Augustine callet carnem domini forma panis opertam the fleshe of our lord couered with the forme of bread But what is meant by this terme Lyeth we knowe not As through faith grounded vpō gods worde we knowe that Christes body is in the Sacrament so that it lyeth there or vnderneathe it by which terme it may seme a scoffe to be vttered to bring the catholike teaching in contempte or that it sitteth or standeth we denye it For lying sitting and standing noteth situatiō of a body in a place according to distinction of membres and circunscriptiō of place so as it haue his partes in a certaine order correspondent to the partes of the place But after such maner the body of Christ is not in the Sacrament but without circumscription order and habitude of his partes to the partes of the body or place enuironning Which maner of being in is aboue all reache of humaine vnderstanding wonderouse straunge and singular not defined and limited by the lawes or bondes of nature but by the almighty power of God
To conclude the being of Christes body in the Sacrament is to vs certaine the maner of his being there to vs vncertaine and to God onely certaine Iuell Or that Ignoraunce is the mother and cause of true deuotion and obedience MAister Iuell had great nede of Articles for some shewe to be made against the catholike churche when he aduised him selfe to put this in for an Article Verely this is none of the highest mysteries nor none of the greatest keyes of our Religion as he sayeth it is but vntruly and knoweth that for an vntruth For him selfe imputeth it to D. Cole Fol. 77. in his replyes to him as a straunge saying by him vttered in the disputation at Westminster to the wondering of the most parte of the honorable and worshipfull of this realme If it were one of the highest mysteries and greatest keyes of the catholike religion I trust the most parte of the honorable and worshipfull of the realme would not wonder at it Concerning the matter it selfe I leaue it to D. Cole He is of age to answere for him selfe Whether he sayde it or no I knowe not As he is learned wise and godly so I doubte not but if he sayde it therein he had a good meaning and can shewe good reason for the same if he may be admitted to declare his saying as wise men would the lawes to be declared 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 so as the mynde be taken and the word spoken not alwayes rigorously exacted August de Trinit lib. 1. cap. 4. Haec mea fides est quoniam haec est catholica fides This is my faith for as much as this is the catholike faith THE CONCLVSION EXHORting M. Iuell to stande to his promise THus your Chalenge M. Iuell is answered Thus your negatiues be auouched Thus the pointes you went about to improue by good auctoritie be proued and many others by you ouer rashely affirmed clearly improued Thus the catholike Religion with all your forces layd at and impugned is sufficiently defended The places of prouses which we haue here vsed are such as your selfe allowe for good and lawfull The scriptures examples of the Primitiue church aunciēt Councelles and the fathers of syx hundred yeres after Christ You might and ought likewise to haue allowed Reason Traditiō Custome and auctoritie of the Church without limitation of tyme. The maner of this dealing with you is gentle sober and charitable Put awaye all mystes of blynde selfe loue you shall perceiue the same to be so The purpose and intent towardes you right good and louing in regard of the truth no lesse then due for behoofe of Christen people no lesse then necessary That you hereby might be enduced to bethinke your selfe of that wherein you haue done vnaduisedly and stayde from hasty running forth prickte with vaine fauour and praise of the world to euerlasting damnation appointed to be the reward at the ende of your game that truth might thus be tryed set forth and defended and that our brethren be leadde as it were by the hāde from perilous erroures and dāger of their soules to a right sense and to suertie Now it remaineth that you performe your promise Which is that if any one cleare sentēce or clause be brought for proufe of any one of all your negatiue Articles you would yelde and subscribe What hath ben brought euery one that wilfully will not blindefold him selfe may plainely see If some happely who will seme to haue both eyes and eares and to be right learned will saye hereof they seene heare nothing no marueill The fauour of the parte whereto they cleaue hauing cutte of them selues from the body the dispite of the catholike religion and hatred of the church hath so blinded their hartes as places alleaged to the disproufe of their false doctrine being neuer so euident they see not ne heare not or rather they seing see not Matt. 13. ne hearing heare not Verely you must either refuse the balance which your selfe haue offred and required for triall of these Articles which be the scriptures examples councelles and doctours of antiquitie or the better weight of auctoritie sweaing to our syde that is the truth founde in the auncient doctrine of the catholike church and not in the mangled dissensions of the Gospellers aduisedly retourne frō whence vnaduisedly you haue departed humbly yelde to that you haue stubbernly kickte against and imbrace holesomly that which you haue hated damnably Touching the daily Sacrifice of the Church commaunded by Christ to be done in remembrance of his death that it hath ben and may be well and godly celebrated without a number of communicantes with the priest together in one place which you call priuate Masse within the compasse of your syx hundred yeres after Christ That the communion was then sometymes as now also it is and may be ministred vnder one kynde Of the publike Seruice of the church or commō prayers in a tonge not knowen to all the people That the Bishop of Rome was sometyme called vniuersall bishop and both called and holden for head of the vniuersall church That by auncient doctoures it hath ben taught Christes body to be really substantially corporally carnally or naturally in the blessed Sacramēt of the aulter Of the wonderous but true being of Christes body in mo places at one tyme and of the Adoration of the Sacrament or rather of the body of Christ in the Sacrament we haue brought good and sufficient proufes alleaging for the more parte of these Articles the scriptures and for all right good euidence out of auncient examples councelles or fathers Concerning Eleuation Reseruatiō Remayning of the Accidentes without substance Diuiding the hoste in three partes the termes of figure signe token etc. applyed to the Sacrament many Masses in one church in one daye the reuerent vse of Images the scriptures to be had in vulgar tonges for the common people to reade which are matters not specially treated of in the scriptures by expresse termes all these haue ben sufficiently auouched and proued either by proufes by your selfe allowed or by the doctrine and common sense of the churche As for your twelue last Articles which you put in by addition to the former for shewe of your courage and confidence of the cause and to seme to the ignorāt to haue much matter to charge vs withall as it appeareth they reporte matter certaine excepted of lesse importance Some of them conteine doctrine true I graunt but ouer curiouse and not most necessary for the simple people Some others be through the maner of your vtterance peruerted and in termes drawen from the sense they haue ben vttered in by the church Which by you being denyed might of vs also be denyed in regard of the termes they be expressed in were not a sleight of falsehed which might redounde to the preiudice of the truth therein worthely suspected Verely to them all we haue sayde so much as to sober quiet and godly