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A00685 Ane answer to ane epistle written by Renat Benedict the Frenche doctor, profesor of Gods worde (as the translator of this epistle calleth him) to Iohn Knox, and the rest of his brethren ministers of the word of God: made by Dauid Feargussone minister of the same word at this present in Dumfermling. Fergusson, David, d. 1598.; Benoit, René, 1521-1608.; Winzet, Ninian, 1518-1592. 1563 (1563) STC 10819; ESTC S117552 36,974 88

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An other hill or hilles whereon your harlot sitteth I know none and thoght your meaning be not hid from me concerning this mater yet for the vanitie of it I leaue it to be interpreted by your self Ye affirme that we intruse an onely figure for the treuth of Christes body in the Sacrament They must haue leaue to lie that can not speak the treuth who euer hard any of vs ather say priuatlie or s●…ak openly in our preachings that the Sacramēt is but a bare figure of Christes body I am assured there is no man able to proue it But rather this is oure doctrine of that moste sacrete and holie Sacrament that as we agree not with you Papistes that wold make men beleue that the bread were changed in Christes carnall and manly fleshe by transubstantiation which fleshe the heauē must hold vnto the time that all thinges be restored which God hath spokē by the mouthes of his holy Prophetes since the worlde begouth as witnesseth S. Peter So do we not agree with them that iudgeth the Sa cramentall bread and wine to be but bare signes or figures onely constantlie affirming and vndoutedly beleuing that als verilie as our teith eateth the bread and our mouthes drinketh the wine whereby our bodyes as sayeth Dauid is strēthened and our hartes made glade so verilie are we partakers of Christes body by Faith whereby we are nourished to lyfe euerlastinge and this partaking requireth nether transubstantiation inpanation nor carnall presente but requireth the eleuatiō of our Spirites by faith to heauen there to be partakers of Christ not with carnal teith but with faith affectual This maner of partakig were the people taught in the primatiue Church as witnesseth this sentence Sursum cord ▪ which wes vsed at the ministration of the Lordes Supper whereby the people wee moued to lift vp their hartes aboue all earthly and sensyble thinges whose answer wes habemus ad Dominum we haue them lifted vp to the Lord which wordes moste shamefullie were abused in your mischiuous masse to your shame and cōfusion And that Christes body is a trew natu rall body in deid lyke vnto oures in all thinges sinne except no fantasy which may be inclosed in a peice of bread and so in 10. thousand places at ones and that the Sacramentall bread is not changed in Christes fleshe and blood as the Papist dreameth not onely the whole Scrip ture but all godly and faithfull writers do testifie And first S. Augustyne whose moste plaine and euident sentences for the prufe of this purpose if I should infer this lytie work should grow to a greater volome then ather I am mynded now to write or yet tyme will permit being otherwaves occupyed principally in the fe ding of that flock wherof the holy Ghoste hath made me ouersear Sum yet I will produce to giue the readers a teast of the r●…st In his cōmentary vpō the Psalmes he hath these wordes Non hoc corpu●… est t●… 〈◊〉 quod videtis et bibituri illum Sanguinem quem fusuri sunt qui me crucifigent Sed Sacramentum ●…liquod commendo vobis quod Spiritualiter intellectum viuific●… bit vos that is ye shal not eat this body which ye se nor drink that blood that they shall shed which shall Crucifie me but I commend vnto you a certane Sacrament or mysterie which being spiritually vnderstāded shal quickē you And in an other place Corpus Christi in quo resurre●…it in vno loco esse oportet veritas autem ●…us vbique diffusa est That is the body of Christ wherein he arose muste be on forse in one place but his veritie is spred abrode euerie where His tractat vpon Iohn is full of suche sentēces and many other of his workes also as his Epistle to Dardanꝰ his boke of Christiane doctrine the notable worke of the Citie of God al whiche I omit for lenth And because that the latine sentences occupyeth roume and also that euerie man vnderstandeth them not let it be sufficient to recite them in Inglish the treuth of the Allegatiōs translating of them who so doutes of let him examine the places alledged Tertuliane writing against Martione hath these wordes Christ taking bread distributing it to his Disciples made it his bodie saying This is my body that is to say the figure of my body but this bread could not haue bene a figure of it except Christ hath had a trew body for a vaine or fātastical thing cā take no figure Ambrose vpon the first Epistle of Paule to the Corinthians and 11. chapiter hath these wordes vpon this sentence Shew the Lordes death Because sayeth he that we were deliuered by the death of the Lord we in eating and drinking of this thing he meaneth the Sacrament do signifie the fleshe and blood whiche were offered for vs. c. Origene in his 7. homilie vpon Leuiticus hath these wordes not onely is there a letter that killeth in the old Testa ment to be found but also in the new Testament a letter which killeth him that doeth not vnderstand the thinges spiritu ally for if thou do follow after the letter this that is spoken Except ye eat my fleshe and drink my blood this letter killeth therefor it is spiritually to be vnderstand S. Iohn Chrisostome in one of his homilies vpon the 26 of Mathew hath these wordes He also drank of it lest whē they hard his wordes they shuld say why do we then drink blood and eat fleshe And so should be troubled for whē he spak before of those thinges they were offended with his wordes and that the same should not now also come to pas he him self drank first of it that they also without grudging or trubil might cōmu nicat of the mysteries These same wordes in affect shortlyer sumwhat collected hath Thomas Aquino in his book called cathena aurea vpon the four Euangelists where also he alledges the same Chrisostome vpon the same place S. Hierome ī his commentary vpon mathew the. 26. chapiter hath these wordes After the mystical Easter Lambe wes fulfilled and he had eaten the Lambis fleshe with his Apostles he passeth through vnto the Sa crament of the trew Easter Lambe that when Melchisedec the priest of the heigh God in prefiguration of him broght forth bread and wine he might also represent the treuth of his body Althogh that Hierome haue not so clerly as the mater required mad the conference betuix Christ and Melchisedec yet hath he treuly iudged in this place of the Sacramēt if I shuld rehears all suche sentences as maketh for this purpose out of the ancient Doctors writinges as I haue said before this small treatie wold growe to a great volome that I be not to tedious therefore let these inferred serue at this present rea die hereafter to collect mo if these endes not the stryfe Ye say that they which haue
Endo●…us and wes holden in Constantinopol The thrid wes holdē in Ephesus ▪ vnder the Empreour Theodorieꝰ against the Herisie of Nestorius The fourth in Chalchedō vnder the Empreour Martiane against the Herisie of Eutiches except these foure all the rest for the moste part are suspect to me because your Popes were iudges in them their selues Therefore seing the wise man hath counselled me otherwise namely not to go to Law with the Iudge forasmuch as he will giue sentence according to his owne honor it were but Foly then to subiect my Faith to the iudgement of these counseles whereof Antichristes haue bene hea des and Iudges The controuersie then being betuix vs Christians you papi●…es ye striuing for the tyrannical domi●…ion and vainglorie of your Pope and ●…e certitude of his Counsels and we for ●…e eternal heauenly glorie of our Christ ●…d the veritie of his holy Euangle Let 〈◊〉 men iudge whither it be right to ad●…t the Pope Arbiter in his owne cause 〈◊〉 whither he oght to be iudged by the ●…ord of God and Gospel of his Christe 〈◊〉 whome all power is giuen in heauen ●…d in earth whose word that he hath spo ●…n shall iudge vs all in the last day I ●…re not to affirme that the mater oght ●…e tryed by the Scriptures howsoeuer ●…tichrist bragge of his owne authoritie ●…t moste ●…iustly he vsurpeth ouer mē as 〈◊〉 Law doeth witnes in these wordes ●…nes Christi fideles de necessitate Salutis 〈◊〉 sunt Romano pontifica qui vtrūque gladium ●…et et omnes iudicat a n●…mine ●…utē iudicatur ●…t is all that be faithfull Christianis 〈◊〉 the necessitie of Saluation are subiect 〈◊〉 the Bishop of Rome which hath bothe ●…e swordes that is spiritual and tempo 〈◊〉 and iudgeth all men and to be iudg●… of no man what I beseche you may ●…e loke for at those Counsels ▪ whereof this tyrant is iudge euen this in my iudgement that when all the adulterers and hooremongers of Scotland and all vther Countries giueth their general cōseut to put doun al ●…ordales and villany that then a generall Counsel whereof the ●…ope is head and iudge with his Creatures the carnall Caroinalles and their a●…s for●…e slaues and mōstrous ●…ytiar Bishopes shal aboli●…e and put doun al superstitiō Idolatrie Meruell nor therefore why we affirme this doctrine or oures I meane the Euangle with so great clamoure and laboure not to our own perdition and others as ye suppose but rather to our Saluation yea we ●…we that damnation abydeth vs if that we preach not the Euangle whiche also we are commanded to cry and not to ce●…s from speaking and bearing witnes to the treuth which we haue bothe hard and ●…ene nether do●…th our doctrine repugne as ye wold make men beleue to all good and cunning men as I trust the vnaffec●…onat Reader shal perceaue but we ●…e nor vpon men but vpon the treuth of God con●…nge eure ●…elues to k●…w nothing but Iesus Christe not him that hingeth in a cord or halter ouer your altars sumtyme til he be woormeatten and not worth the holding adiudged to the fyre no but him we confesse that wes made not of white corne but of the ●…ede of Dauid according to the fleshe yea euen him that wes crucified and declared ●…ightylie to be the Sonne of God touch●…g the Spirit of Sanctification by the Resurrection from the dead ye bragge muche of Doctors and learned men to be ●…pon your syde but hitherto we haue ne●…her hard their names nor yet any autho cities out of their writings for your prufe And that it may appeare how fals this ●…our accusation is althogh I haue no ●…ede of Doctors yet do I infer some and ●…al godwilling infer mo hereafter as that occasion shal be offered As to your ●…clandring with noualtie our faith and ●…octrine I haue alreadie in the first Sec●…on answered and partlie by occasiō also 〈◊〉 this The doctrine that we professe ●…ach to haue bene from the beginning 〈◊〉 haue alreadie prouē and that the scope thereof is onely to teache men to knowe the Eternal the Father of our Lorde Iesus to be the verie onely trew God and that he whom he sent is the Sauioure of the world In this doctrine alone consisteth lyfe euerlasting as witnesseth the Lord IIesus and this is lyfe eternal that they knowe thee to be onely verie God and whom thow hath sent Iesus Christ this doctrine we haue professed at this present doeth and shall by Gods grace confesse vnto the end in dispyte of Satan and his Uickar your Pope Antechrist Renats Epistle the Thrid Section BEhold I besech you that ye deceaue not your selues and namely in these last and moste perrellous dayes of the which the holy write prophecieth and affirmeth the great dangeres and mischief so that in the dayes euen the chosen and Elect if it were possible therethrough shalbe peruerted Ye knowe planely if that ye loke ouer the Scripture with humilitie the slight and desait of Sathan Christes and all Christianes enimies for to misreule and disturb the trew Kirk and his furious interpryses also to deleit and put away the remembrance of Christ Iesus ye misknow not Take head therfore I adiure you welbeloued and Christiane brethren that ye be not Seduced with his subteltie and craftines and being Seduced that ye be not the instruments to peruert others from the faith ●…athan can not take Christes name from you but yet be war I pray you and I warne you of charitie for your weill and Saluation that he pluk not Christe him self from you Think I besech you where and by what maner we haue Christ treulie Haue we him not by his trew worde in the trew Sacrament Haue we him ●…ot ī the trew Kirk by verie faith Haue ●…e not lightlyed I make your selues iud●…es and contempned the trew Kirk sit●…uat vpon the montane and this yneugh knowing of all men Intruse ye not an onely figure for the treuh of Christes liue ●…y bodie in the Sacramēt and euchariste They knowe who hath red the Scriptu●…es and Doctors writinges that ye pro●…one the wordes of the Law and not the Law it self nor the trew worde of God for probation and setting forthe of your doctrine therefore ye reteane onely the name of Christe but be war I pray you that ye put not Christe him selfe frome you haue ye not expelled him first in his Ymages and thereafter in the euchariste and masse And last of all in exponing the Scripture otherwise then it behoued in whose roume what other thīg haue ye set out but a Creatur or creatures inuent that is your doctrine and teachement D. Feargussones answer IF that we did depend ather on men or mens doctrine whither it were our owne or other mens then no dout we were verie able to be deceaued and to deceaue others But forasmuch as the doctrine that we