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A65399
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A reply by T.W. citizen of Chester, to a Vindication of Mr. M.H's Brief enquiry into the true nature of schism, from the exceptions of T.W. &c. By a person who conceals his name
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T.W. citizen of Chester.
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1692
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Wing W128; ESTC R219277
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upon_o he_o to_o contradict_v those_o learned_a man_n who_o think_v the_o angel_n mention_v in_o the_o revel_n by_o st._n john_n be_v bishop_n he_o have_v grant_v this_o be_v all_o my_o desire_n and_o therefore_o all_o his_o witty_a animadversion_n which_o follow_v be_v not_o worth_a my_o answer_n it_o will_v be_v but_o needless_a repetition_n to_o say_v any_o thing_n to_o his_o follow_a paragraph_n in_o his_o 14._o p._n have_v full_o answer_v it_o before_o in_o his_o p._n 15._o he_o say_v what_o do_v i_o mean_v in_o say_v in_o these_o multiply_a church_n there_o be_v no_o variation_n and_o then_o very_o disingenuous_o change_v my_o word_n for_o a_o word_n very_o different_a in_o signification_n and_o ask_v be_v there_o no_o variety_n at_o all_o in_o any_o circumstance_n of_o worship_n and_o say_v the_o contrary_n may_v be_v prove_v even_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o instance_n that_o which_o he_o call_v a_o scuffle_n act_v 15._o betwixt_o the_o believe_a jew_n and_o gentile_n about_o jewish_a ceremony_n here_o be_v no_o such_o different_a circumstance_n as_o to_o divide_v their_o communion_n therein_o there_o be_v no_o variation_n their_o unity_n be_v preserve_v the_o jewish_a ceremony_n which_o the_o convert_v jew_n will_v have_v impose_v on_o the_o christian_a gentile_n be_v no_o circumstance_n in_o the_o christian_a worship_n the_o council_n at_o jerasalem_fw-la think_v therefore_o necessary_a to_o forbid_v those_o imposition_n now_o in_o this_o very_a case_n the_o necessity_n of_o apostolic_a jurisdiction_n do_v appear_v that_o by_o a_o decisive_a and_o definitive_a sentence_n of_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n it_o may_v not_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o private_a christian_n to_o impose_v their_o different_a sentiment_n upon_o one_o another_o and_o that_o there_o may_v be_v no_o variation_n nor_o breach_n of_o unity_n in_o the_o public_a worship_n of_o god_n so_o that_o this_o instance_n be_v not_o at_o all_o for_o his_o purpose_n he_o say_v if_o i_o 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that_o first_o church_n unite_v in_o one_o baptism_n and_o one_o faith_n and_o all_o partaker_n at_o the_o same_o eucharist_n etc._n etc._n that_o say_v he_o be_v the_o same_o for_o substance_n for_o in_o that_o they_o all_o agree_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n in_o the_o same_o circumstance_n such_o a_o unity_n we_o hold_v and_o doubt_v not_o but_o in_o our_o congregation_n this_o unity_n may_v be_v find_v and_o so_o he_o run_v on_o in_o his_o 16._o p._n and_o endeavour_n to_o persuade_v all_o man_n just_a like_o the_o donatist_n that_o these_o dissenter_n be_v more_o true_o catholic_n than_o we_o that_o the_o power_n delegated_a by_o our_o bless_a saviour_n to_o his_o apostle_n be_v to_o be_v confer_v upon_o their_o successor_n be_v certain_o employ_v in_o the_o promise_n 28.20_o mat._n 28.20_o lo_o i_o be_o with_o you_o always_o even_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n apostolical_a the_o church_n of_o england_n true_o apostolical_a that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v 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his_o next_o paragraph_n pa._n 17._o be_v the_o same_o in_o different_a phrase_n he_o say_v the_o description_n i_o have_v give_v of_o church_n unity_n ruin_v my_o whole_a book_n and_o cause_n a_o hasty_a sentence_n for_o say_v he_o if_o this_o be_v the_o true_a proper_a unity_n of_o church_n than_o there_o may_v be_v true_a church-vnity_n without_o the_o unite_n of_o many_o particular_a church_n minister_n and_o people_n into_o one_o diocesan_n church_n under_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o a_o prelate_n and_o his_o officer_n etc._n etc._n then_o he_o be_v not_o much_o against_o the_o conveniency_n of_o parochial-precincts_n but_o say_v according_a to_o my_o definition_n it_o be_v not_o de_n essentia_fw-la vnitatis_fw-la it_o be_v plain_a all_o that_o he_o drive_v at_o here_o be_v that_o there_o may_v be_v true_a church_n unity_n without_o episcopacy_n i_o have_v answer_v this_o before_o by_o show_v that_o all_o presbyter_n with_o their_o particular_a congregation_n that_o be_v minister_n 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interruption_n to_o this_o age._n be_v say_v he_o a_o assertion_n without_o the_o least_o shadow_n of_o proof_n yea_o contrary_a to_o the_o acknowledgement_n of_o all_o church_n historian_n if_o this_o gent_n have_v mention_v where_o any_o church_n historian_n of_o credit_n be_v of_o his_o opinion_n and_o show_v when_o any_o interruption_n happen_v he_o have_v do_v something_o for_o the_o support_n of_o his_o opinion_n but_o let_v he_o examine_v from_o this_o present_a age_n to_o the_o day_n of_o lucius_n king_n of_o the_o northumber_n who_o be_v credible_o say_v to_o be_v the_o first_o king_n that_o embrace_v the_o christian_a faith_n in_o this_o isle_n and_o if_o he_o can_v assign_v one_o breach_n of_o this_o succession_n he_o out_o do_v his_o predecessor_n but_o if_o not_o he_o stand_v guilty_a of_o bring_v a_o false_a accusation_n against_o all_o true_o catholic_a church_n for_o not_o only_o the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o all_o other_o establish_v catholic_a church_n do_v 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who_o have_v not_o receive_v it_o by_o succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n and_o this_o succession_n must_v be_v by_o a_o uninterrupted_a line_n from_o the_o apostle_n or_o it_o cease_v to_o be_v divine_a so_o that_o the_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o a_o uninterrupted_a line_n be_v a_o sufficient_a reason_n to_o prove_v it_o and_o now_o i_o may_v affirm_v that_o great_a catholic_a truth_n it_o remain_v firm_a and_o unshaken_a set_v down_o in_o my_o former_a paper_n p._n 3._o viz._n who_o ever_o he_o be_v that_o be_v out_o of_o this_o line_n of_o apostolic_a succession_n and_o exercise_n any_o ministerial_a office_n without_o the_o commission_n of_o episcopal_a ordination_n can_v be_v no_o more_o or_o other_o than_o a_o lay_v impostor_n and_o a_o schismatic_n and_o that_o without_o expose_v christianity_n itself_o as_o he_o say_v p._n 23._o i_o do_v or_o without_o leave_v the_o conscience_n of_o all_o the_o man_n in_o the_o world_n at_o a_o utter_a uncertainty_n whether_o they_o have_v a_o true_a ministry_n or_o true_a ordinance_n or_o no_o for_o there_o be_v no_o other_o way_n wherein_o a_o true_a ministry_n and_o consequent_o true_a ordinance_n can_v be_v find_v and_o this_o be_v so_o far_o from_o leave_v man_n conscience_n at_o a_o uncertainty_n that_o it_o be_v the_o only_a foundation_n of_o certainty_n and_o assurance_n of_o a_o true_a ministry_n and_o consequent_o true_a ordinance_n and_o from_o whence_o we_o receive_v real_a comfort_n in_o the_o participation_n for_o other_o foundation_n say_v saint_n paul_n can_v no_o man_n lay_v than_o that_o be_v already_o lay_v which_o be_v jesus_n christ_n 1_o corinthian_n 3._o vers_fw-la 11._o jesus_n christ_n have_v found_v his_o church_n upon_o the_o holy_a apostle_n and_o so_o as_o not_o to_o be_v demolish_v or_o expire_v with_o their_o life_n but_o to_o continue_v firm_a in_o their_o successor_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n to_o deny_v this_o be_v both_o to_o distrust_v the_o power_n and_o providence_n of_o god_n and_o to_o make_v void_a the_o promise_n of_o our_o lord_n make_v mat._n 28.20_o but_o this_o my_o adversary_n do_v for_o say_v he_o in_o p._n 24._o in_o how_o many_o case_n may_v this_o line_n be_v break_v and_o all_o the_o apostolic_a power_n convey_v there_o be_v spill_v and_o lose_v etc._n etc._n be_v not_o this_o man_n faith_n too_o weak_a in_o the_o power_n of_o god_n and_o in_o the_o promise_n of_o his_o son_n which_o be_v that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o she_o mat._n 16.18_o that_o be_v his_o church_n and_o shall_v the_o device_n of_o man_n out_o do_v the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v the_o fancy_n of_o this_o man_n and_o his_o brethren_n overthrow_v that_o against_o which_o god_n have_v promise_v the_o power_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v and_o because_o these_o man_n infatuate_v by_o error_n despise_v this_o church_n who_o foundation_n be_v lay_v by_o the_o bless_a jesus_n and_o have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n commit_v to_o she_o must_v she_o be_v make_v a_o prey_n and_o a_o sacrifice_n to_o the_o blind_a ignorance_n pride_n and_o lust_n of_o these_o man_n mind_n to_o make_v way_n for_o the_o whimsy_n and_o invention_n of_o man_n not_o know_v or_o hear_v of_o in_o the_o church_n of_o fourteen_o hundred_o year_n must_v the_o power_n of_o preach_v the_o gospel_n absolve_v penitent_n consecrate_v the_o holy_a sacrament_n etc._n etc._n be_v lose_v and_o make_v void_a by_o be_v translate_v into_o profane_a hand_n to_o be_v officiate_v by_o those_o who_o be_v not_o send_v of_o god_n all_o which_o be_v the_o unavoidable_a consequence_n of_o this_o man_n doctrine_n for_o he_o say_v p._n 24._o where_o this_o line_n be_v break_v all_o this_o apostolic_a power_n be_v spill_v and_o lose_v the_o abbot_n of_o hylas_n be_v object_v by_o a_o popish_a writer_n to_o prove_v our_o church_n schismatical_a and_o it_o be_v now_o bring_v by_o this_o dissenter_n against_o the_o apostolic_a succession_n which_o in_o his_o p._n 25._o he_o name_v in_o the_o margin_n the_o most_o reverend_a primate_n bramball_n in_o answer_n to_o the_o papist_n write_v a_o just_a vindication_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n etc._n etc._n in_o p._n 131_o and_o 135_o of_o his_o work_n you_o have_v a_o account_n at_o large_a where_o he_o clear_v the_o northumbrian_n bishop_n from_o receive_v consecration_n of_o the_o abbot_n of_o hy_o and_o show_v that_o they_o have_v their_o consecration_n from_o the_o bishop_n of_o derry_n then_o call_v derry-magh_a under_o who_o visitation_n this_o abbot_n live_v the_o primate_n tell_v we_o the_o record_n be_v to_o be_v see_v at_o derry_n before_o the_o irish_a rebellion_n and_o this_o story_n you_o have_v much_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n in_o the_o lord_n bishop_n of_o st._n asaph_n historical_a account_n of_o church_n government_n etc._n etc._n chap._n 5._o so_o that_o this_o dissenter_n have_v no_o more_o advantage_n with_o the_o popish_a writer_n against_o our_o church_n by_o cast_v this_o imputation_n out_o of_o this_o story_n to_o break_v the_o succession_n than_o the_o papist_n have_v to_o prove_v we_o schismatic_n nor_o be_v any_o intercision_n hereby_o prove_v which_o my_o adversary_n pretend_v in_o the_o same_o p._n 25._o he_o desire_v to_o know_v of_o i_o or_o any_o who_o encourage_v i_o to_o write_v little_a book_n whether_o this_o line_n of_o succession_n may_v be_v continue_v in_o a_o schismatical_a church_n and_o the_o apostolical_a power_n convey_v thereby_o say_v he_o if_o by_o schism_n man_n and_o society_n be_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o universal_a church_n than_o such_o schismatical_a church_n be_v no_o church_n etc._n etc._n what_o occasion_n i_o give_v he_o for_o this_o question_n you_o may_v see_v in_o my_o 3d._a page_n after_o i_o affirm_v the_o apostolical_a succession_n of_o bishop_n and_o infer_v from_o