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A15697	The fore-runner of Bels dovvnefall wherin, is breifely answered his braggnig [sic] offer of disputation, and insolent late challenge: the particularties [sic] of the confutation of his bookes, shortly by goddes grace to be published, are mentioned: with à breife answere, to his crakinge and calumnious confutinge of papistes by papistes them selues: and lastly à taste. Giuen of his rare pretended sinceritye, with som few examples.	Woodward, Philip, ca. 1557-1610.; Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610, attributed name.	1605 (1605)	STC 25972.5; ESTC S114156	24,220	62

same doctrine that S. Peter had done before them and yet in an other place mainteineth that Pope Siricius was seduced by Sathan published wicked doctrine and taught the flat doctrine of the diuells and Pope Sozimus falsified the decrees of the Nicen councel so to mainteine the vsurped primacie of the church of Rome seing both these Popes liued in S. Augustins time To deliuer him selfe from this disgracious shakell which much hindereth his goinge he fetcheth many crosse capers tumbleth like a pig in a poke but he is so hampered that the more he strugleth the more fast is he caught the holes are so straight and him selfe so big that there is is no creepinge out well may he thruste his head forth as his brother Eaton the minister by Hounslowe did vpon the pillerie in London for teachinge his daughter a wrong lesson but no possibility of escapinge appeereth Many soueraigne solucions forsooth and diuers plaisters of I-sayes are applied to cure the wounde but all in vaine for it festereth more and more without all hope of amendment Bad tinkers stop one heale ad make an other Bell is so cuninge a worke man that he hath both left the olde leakinge stil and made diuers new I touch this point now breiflie better oportunitie hereafter will be offered further to examin this matter when god willinge all his bucklers of defence shall be beaten vpon his owne face At this present I will giue the reader a short viewe of the great dexteritie he hath in answeringe and the wonderfull facilitie in lyinge and the great pleasure he seemeth to take in that occupation insistinge so much vpon that and amplifienge it at lardg as if he had either conscience in his soule or blood in his cheekes he would neuer for shame once haue mentioned I will cite all his wordes at full that no iust cause of complaint be giuen In his third chapter the title wherof is Of the notorious lies of E. O. thus he declaimeth Pope Siricius as Thomas Bell affirmeth was seduced by Sathan published wicked doctrine and Precisians came daylie to a winter morning lecture where after other preparatiue discourses when the mot was giuen by the preacher and the text of Multiplicamini proclaimed candles were put out and that they frequented this exercise fare more dilligently then they obserued the Lenten fast and brought nothinge to iustifie my relation how would he take me vp for halting Yea I am verily perswaded that albeit I should say that such a thinge hapned in a principall towne in Barkshire addinge also that the minister vpon the breakinge forth of the matter fearinge persecution for the testimonie of a good conscience fled a way towardes Oxford and venturinge with his horse to take the water because he had haste in his way and could not expect a boate was there drowned that he would not make any great scruple notwithstandinge these particularities to giue me the lie Let him then with far more reason quietly disgest it him selfe His odious tearmes of blinded and besotted vnsauorie traditions and superstitious illusions must be pardoned Some haue such a defect of nature that they can not speake vnles thy stammer and Sir Thomas such an imperfection of grace that except he rayle and lie he can write nothinge S. Hierom calleth the Lenton fast a tradition of the Apostles though it pleaseth him to call it an vnsauorie tradition so litle doth it like him and to say truth the old tradition commandinge so longe abstinence from fleashe can not but be to the ministers mouth sower and vnsauorie and the new Geneua fashion that geueth leaue by the libertie of the gospell to eate fleash at all times is far more sauorie tothsome and pleasant VI. THus much out of the Downe fall now for a packinge blowe one bout more and so an end In this booke of his which he published the last yeare 1603 and coupled it together with his Goulden ballance the good man seemeth to be much netled and the waters of his patience so troubled and shaken that they be not yet queit and cleere for a certaine Catholike author in a booke intituled A Detection c. written against Master Sutcliff and Master taught the flat doctrine of the diuel These are the expresse wordes of E. O. whom as it seemeth the diuel did euen then posesse when he vitered them For not one of these wordes TAVGT THE FLAT DOCTRINE OF THE DIVEL can be found in my Suruey in the place which E. O. hath quoted but these wordes which of purpose he did omitt prohibited mariage as an vnlawful thinge This therefor is a notorius and a most malicious lie It is a lye in grame and that a knocker to vse his owne wordes else where adorned with the name of the diuell to giue the more grace vnto it And that worthelie because the diuel is the Architect and thiefe worckman in that art and occupation Here is a greueous complaint put vp against E. O. for that he hath slaundred the minister and vttered a notorious and moste malicious lie a lie in graine and a knocker adorned with the name of the diuell c. and the lye consisteth in this point because E. O. chardgeth Bell as though he should say that Siricius taught the flatt doctrine of the diuele none of which wordes as he affirmeth can be found in his Surueye in the place which E. O. hath quoted and this inturie he reputeth for a fault of no smale qualitie when he writeth that the deuile as it seemeth did euen then posesse him when he vttered them A greuous crime doutles that in his seeminge opinion deserued so suddaine and seuere a punishment or els he presumeth much vpon the diueles friendship when he is readie to conceiue that for a trifelinge iniurie offered to his ministership he tooke the matter so hotely as to prosecute it in such terrible reuenging maner But now nothwithstandinge all this bitter and fearfull exclamation what if these wordes be found in his Surueye and in that verie place which E. O. hath noted vpon whom them doth the notorious and malicious lye fall whose coate is died and marked with the lye in graine whose credit doth the knockinge lye batter and beate and whose tenement moste like to giue the diuele intertainment That the said Siricius was seduced by Sathan and published wicked doctrine he denieth not why I beseech him is there any such great difference betwixt these wordes which he graunteth and those other which he doth not graunt that he should mount vp into such extrauagant tearmes let them be indifferently pondered and they expresse the verie same meaninge● for is it not trulie verified of him that he doth teach the flatt doctrine of the diuele of whom it is confessed that he was seduced by Sathan and published wicked doctrine Put them into an equall ballance and a dram of difference in sence and true construction wil not be found for Bell is no

although nothinge be contained hurtfull to Catholike doctrine Yet Bell by his Achymistical arte of chaunginge truth in to falsehoode can gather out matter sufficient against vs. But before I passe any farther I muste note one thinge breiflie and that is whereas Ioseph is dedicatinge his bookes to the Pope speaketh of kissinge his holines feete this minister not only out of all season mencioneth it in this place but is at it againe and againe as some wise folke there be which if they get a worde by the end will hardlie let it goe but like a bell still iangle the same tune Doth not him selfe confesse that Iustinian the Emperour nine hundred yeeres agoe kissed the Pope Constantiue feete and is it not well knowen that Alexander the great fell downe at the feete of laddas high Preiste of the Iewes and S. Austen reporteth how the people in his time did the like before the feete of bishopps all which considered to omitt what adoration is giuen to temporall princes I maruell that it should seeme so straung a thinge to one of Bells readinge and learninge that a religious bishop should submit him selfe to kisse the Popes feete Ynoughe of this Let vs now see what he gathereth out of Iosephus wordes against vs. In the margent of his booke this wholesome note is painted Loe this Frier graunteth that all the holie fathers are against the Papistes It should haue bene long ynoughe before a man of ordinarie capacitie could euer haue obserued any such point in Iosephus discourse But take heede whilst yee liue when such a turn-coate as he is cometh to tosse and turne ouer a sentence for he can not only inferr that which is true but with as great facilitie gather that also which is false Be it knowen to him that he belieth Iosephus for no such thinge as he noteth can be wroung racked or coniured out of his wordes Let them be viewed and pondered by the discreete reader and I leaue it to his iudgment whether he graunteth any such thinge or no. The fathers saith Bell out of the testimonie of Iosephus confesse that good workes accordinge to their naturall valew be not meritorious of eternall life What is this against vs Doe not all Catholikes graunt as much when they acknowledge that they receiue all their efficacie of workinge from gods grace which doctrine of ours he may learne out of the councell of Trent where it is handled at lardge False therfore it is that ether the fathers be against vs or that Angles granteth any such thinge IIII. PAg. 115. Our petye Pygmie will needes be wrastlinge with Hercules club that is Bell bicker with Bellarmine impar congressus Achilli The poore man might doe far better and vviser to keepe his teeth to be agents for his bellie vvhich he loueth vvell then to endanger them vpon so roughe a file And vvhat a gods name is his quarell againste that learned prelate Marry quoth he These are his expresse wordes But in the new Testament because Christ had fulfilled the figures and the prophecies althoug he many doe not vnder stād the sentences of the scriptures yet doe they vnderstand the mysteries of our redemption euen the common countrie fellowes and the verie women Thus writeth our Iesuit affirming that euen women and the verie rustickes of the countrie doe vnderstand the scriptures so far forth as pertaineth to the misteries of their redemption Yf the minister doe no better keepe his handes from pickinge and stealinge then he doth his tounge from euill speakinge lyinge and slaundringe to vse the phrase of their cathechisme he might far more justly be called in question for the vnlavvfull vse of his fingers then he did the seruinge man at Thirske about suspition of Seminary affaires For I giue him to vnderstand though no great nevves that he belieth Bellarmin He saith not that vvoemen and rustickes doe vnderstand the scriptures so far forth as pertaineth to the misteries of their redemption Nay he saith the contrarie in the vvordes by him alleadged Although many quoth he vnderstand not the sentences of the scriptures In vvhich number I thinke rustickes and vvomen must be contayned Yf then they vnderstand not the sentences of the scriptures as Bellarmin affirmeth hovv doe they vnderstand the scriptures so far forth as pertaineth to the misteries of their redemption Was there euer knovven a more gallant gospeller that dareth thus to practise his godles occupation though all the tovvne looke on Yea but Bellarmin saith that contrie fellovves and vvomen vnderstand the misteries of our redemption vvhat then is there no meanes to attaine that knovvledg but but by readinge and vnderstandinge of the scriptures yf so vvoe be to them that can not reade at all no smale part of the christian vvorld vvho knovveth not that ignorant people learne better the misteries of their redemption by the instruction of their Pastors dilligence of parents and helpe of good cathechismes then by fishinge for it by their ovvne labour out of the profound sea of sacred scripture vvhere they may sooner for lack of skill be drovvned in the depth of errors then by them selues finde out the liuely vvaters of true doctrine vvould to god to much experience in these vnrulie times taught vs not this to be too true a lesson The lamentable storie of Hacket that quintissentiall Puritan and a great bible beater may vvarne all to be wise vnto sobrietie as S. Paul vvisheth and also vvhat ruine of soules and daunger to common vveales doth arise by generally sufferinge yea and animatinge all sortes of people tag and rag to learne the misteries of their redemption out of the scripture and to examin the doctrin forsooth of Fathers councells by that rule touchstone as Iohn Caluin prescribeth V. PAg. 130. Many Papistes quoth he are so blinded and besotted with vnsauorie traditions and superstitious illusions that they deeme it a greater sinne to eate fleash in Lent then to commit adulterie murder or periurie Seinge moste certaine it is that these fowle sinnes of adulterie murder and periurie be forbidden by the law of god no necessitie occurringe or circumstance what soeuer giueinge any leaue to commit any one of these sinnes and that the fast of Lent ordained only by a positiue law of the Apostles from which many for age sicknes and other causes may be iustly excused and this so well knowen that no dout can be made thereof what a creature is Bell that vttereth so notable an vntruth bringinge not so much as any colourable ground to support it but his bare word and the emptie blast of his owne mouth Should I tell him that certaine reformed Protestants otherwise called willet vnder the letters of E. O. gaue him but a litle item by the way notinge a certaine palpable contradiction in his Surueye to wit that he saith in one place that the bishops of Rome vntil the dayes of S. Austen and long after were very godlie men and taught the