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A17259 A suruey of the Popes supremacie VVherein is a triall of his title, and a proofe of his practices: and in it are examined the chiefe argumentes that M. Bellarmine hath, for defence of the said supremacie, in his bookes of the bishop of Rome. By Francis Bunny sometime fellow of Magdalene Colledge in Oxford. Bunny, Francis, 1543-1617. 1595 (1595) STC 4101; ESTC S106919 199,915 232

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