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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A13880	A defence of the ecclesiastical discipline ordayned of God to be vsed in his Church Against a replie of Maister Bridges, to a briefe and plain declaration of it, which was printed An[no]. 1584. Which replie he termeth, A defence of the gouernement established in the Church of Englande, for ecclesiasticall matters.	Travers, Walter, 1547 or 8-1635.	1588 (1588)	STC 24183; ESTC S118502	153,730	244

worde taught and preached and spiritual correction yea their soules and their bodyes are destroyed for wante of the meanes which God hath ordayned for the saluation and comfort of them both Whose crie the Lorde in mercie heare in his good time and giue to the higher powers also to heare it and to take such order for it as may be most acceptable vnto him and most comfortable to his people Thus farre haue I laboured to shewe the necessarie and perpetuall vse of the offices of the Ministers of the worde both Pastours and Teachers of Elders also and of Deacons Wherwith I would ende the aunswere to this section but that heere is offred an occasion to speake a worde or twoo more to an other matter in it The Declaration shewing that God withdrawing th'extraordinarie giftes of healing and such like hath withall shewed that the offices depending vpon those giftes should cease rebuketh it as a vanitie in the papistes to keepe still Exorcistes and extreeme Vnction and to speake with straunge tongues which they haue not by inspiration and that without any interpretation which is expreslie forbidden The Replyer letting passe the rebuke for the two former pointes for the third sayeth he belie not the Diuell Their fault was not that they spake with straunge tongues which they had not by inspiration for if they had not had them by inspiration and yet had they vnderstoode them and the people also then had this bin no fault except in speaking faultie matter These are the Replyers wordes wherein he hath little cause to vse this homely prouerbe against the Declaration For it reporteth not vntrulie of them but chargeth them with vanitie for doing that which they doe in deede So as if there be anie fault here it is not in speaking vntruely of them but in making that whiche is truelie sayde they doe to be a fault which is none But this was onely a quarell picked to mainteyne speaking of Latin in the pulpit which the Replyer thought to be a litle touched in that the Papistes are charged with vanitie for speaking with tongues whiche they had not by inspiration Which if it be for that cause a vanitie in them then the replier thought it would be gathered to be as vayne a thing in anie other that hauing not the gifte by inspiration no more then they but onely by studie and ordinarie meanes yet doe vse to vtter sentences in Latine and other tongues but coÌ„monlie in Latin for it is not euery mans gift to vnderstand greeke and Hebrewe which he had good reason in deede to suppose But howe doeth he answere the DeclaratioÌ„ which resteth vppon this reson why it should be a vanitie in them namely bicause they haue that tongue by studie and not by inspiration Which is as if it had bin more at large saide that being an extraordinarie gift there might be yet some vse for the miracle to giue credite and doe honour to that doctrine which such a beleeuer did professe but for a man that had bin trayned vp in schoole all his life and had spent many yeares in the Vniuersitie to speake Latine in his sermon as if it were a miracle for a man in twentie or thirtie yeares so bestowed to speake of him selfe or repeate out of other a fewe sentences in Latine could haue no such grace nor vse no nor any good vse but onely sheweth the vanitie and follie of the partie that so speaketh To this reason he maketh no aunswere but onely sayeth it was no fault in them although they had them not by inspiration if both they and the people vnderstoode them to speake with straunge tongues But it is not ynough for him to saye so with a bare worde he had neede to haue shewed some good reason to mainteyne it the argument of the Declaration being so strong to the contrarie as it is Hee coulde not also be ignorant that th'Apostle reproueth this ostentation in those of Corinth who yet had it by extraordinarie gift as a childishe follie in them saying Brethren be not children in vnderstanding howe much more then is it worthie of that reproofe in such 1. Cor. 13.20 as haue it not by that meanes In the same place th'Apostle noteth out of the Prophete that it was a punishment 1. Cor. 14.21 Esai 28.11 threatned from God to speake to men in a strange tongue so litle cause they had to glorie in that abuse After also he saith 1. Co. 14.22 that the vse of tongues was to the infidell vnbeleeuer as by the miracle to worke in him some sence and reuerence of the doctrine so authorised but not sayeth he to the beleeuer for whom prophecie that is exposition of the holie Scriptures in a tounge vnderstoode of all is appointed In the Church therefore it is impertinent to speake with strange tongue I speake tongues sayeth the Apostle in the same place more then all you doe yet had I rather speake in the Church fiue wordes to instruct other with them 1. Cor. 14.18.19 then a thousande in a strange tongue Wherein the modestie of the Apostle and his care of edifying of the Church appeareth To which purpose also he sayeth in another place That he regarded not to bee esteemed to knowe any thing amongst them but Iesus Christ 1. Cor. 2.1.2 and him crucified The contrarie therefore is not to seeke as a man ought to doe the honour onely of Christ and the edification of his Church but sauoureth of fleshe and blood For as it is well obserued by Maister Caluin of worthie memorie the Apostles voluntarie absteyning from speaking with tongues Caluin coÌ„menta in 1. Cor. 14.19 who could haue triumphed herein ouer them all and his seeking to edifie the Church without all maner of pompe conuinceth their swelling ambition who affect the shewing of them selues whose authoritie ought to drawe them from vanitie In like maner ought the perpetuall and constant examples of all the Prophetes of whom diuers as it appeareth had skill of sundrie languages and of all the Apostles who excelled all others herein Of all which not one appeareth at any time to haue spoken in his publique ministerie in the Congregation with anie other tongue then the vulgar tongue of the people No more did our Sauiour him selfe whose perpetuall example in this concerning their Ministerie ought to bee a rule to all those who with modestie seeke th'edification of the Church It may be added also herein that the Fathers vse it not nor the reformed Churches of this age therefore hauing not bin so done by the Prophetes nor by the Apostles nor by other in the primitiue Church nor by the Fathers theÌ„selues nor vsed by the best reformed Churches It were to be wished that they in whose fauor the Replier maketh this answere would rather conforme them selues to the examples of all those then to the Church of Rome where almost only this ostentation is vsed That part in the declaration which is

tackling The first whereof is not true for neither was there at that time he noteth any such Archbishop as since haue bin nowe are in the church neyther was that he meaneth detected by any one but by the Fathers of the Councell As for Rauenna not he onely but many other Archbishops and Bishops the Abbots Priours Colledges namely the Colledge of Sorbone haue had contention with the Bishop of Rome some before he was growen to the Popedome and some in the middest of his pride So as if Contention with that sea be a iustification of their callings that haue contended with him schooles of errour and sinkes of impietie and most vnlawfull places and functions may bee iustified This is yet enforced further by comparison with the order set downe for the guyding of the Church in the Declaration as lesse able to holde out that pride then these his offices are In deede if a man should esteeme these thinges by fleshe and bloud the enuie and ielousie that Bishops Archbishops may haue of the rysing and greatnes one of another and their worldly meanes by fauour wealth authoritie and such like to impeach and hinder their growing might in that respect be a greater impediment But the continuance in the ordinance of God had bin without all comparison the stronger meane if we measure these thinges as they ought to bee measured The Lorde by the weake things whiche hee hath chosen 1. Cor. 1.27 28. 2. Cor. 10.4 5.6 confoundeth the great things of this worlde hath giuen his seruauntes furniture for spirituall warfare which is mightie from God to the subduing of euery imagination that exalteth vp it selfe against God And therefore to make way to this presumption it was needfull this ordinance of GOD should first be chaunged Yet is the Replyer bolde to say that the order set downe in the Declaration might sooner sett vp a thousande petite Antichristes then pull downe one For their pulling downe of one by it I haue spoken for the setting vp of any it is not possible this being as it is the institution of our Sauiour Christ And the institution being such as that no one caryeth any cause but all thinges are guyded by the consent of a number most fearing GOD and of best abilitie for that purpose which is most directlie contrarie to tyrannie this vsurpation could not reasonably bee feared If there be manie Antichristes as in some sence the Euangelist Iohn fayeth there are and if all they who directlie oppose to the doctrine and ordinaunces of Christ be Antichristes some great Antichristes and some petyte Antichristes as hee termeth them from the Pope the toppe of all that Romish Hierarchie to the reading priest the tayle thereof a man should cleare but a feawe I doubt from that foule name and crime Here is added an impertinent matter that Archbishops nor Bishops haue not brought in all kinde of false doctrine although some Archeheretikes haue bin Archbishops as Nestorius was For so sayeth he also were sundrie that were Presbiters Priestes or Elders and Doctors A needles point to touche as the rest which hee hath debated in this cause the Declaration not charging any at all by name in this place eyther Bishops or Archbishops nor by any iust collection but in as much as in their offices the ordinance of God was changed whereby way was made for Antichrist who brought in all kinde of false doctrine and confusion Not content thus to answere for them whoÌ„ no man impleaded he entreth againe into comparison betweene the offices of Bishop and Archebishop and the order set downe in the Declaration for the direction of the Church affirming this to be more meete as being of more learned men Wherein to graunt where more are learned there would be harder passage for false doctrine he vtterly mistaketh the matter to thinke that where that order he disliketh should or doeth take place that there the directours of Church matters are or would be vnlearned The nature of the order it selfe which admitteth no Minister but learned nor any decision of waight but by aduyse of many with appointed conferences and Synodes of learned men for such purposes besides the assurance of Gods fauourable blessing of his owne ordinance the experience of the Synodes of the reformed Churches the comparison of their iudgementes Cannons and other constitutions with the like of the other in any part beareth witnesse whether the wante of learning and pietie both must needes be greater in it then in the other Hitherto of the primitiue Churches preseruing and maintayning the order set downe in the Declaration Nowe followeth the like of the best reformed Churches of this age In the Replye wherevnto here is an occasion taken to enter into the whole cause a-newe by making question whether the order nowe restored in the Churches rightly reformed bee the same that was exercised in the primitiue Churche Against which poynt he bringeth litle other reason then he alleadged before But ere he come to the repetition of those arguments he findeth great faulte that the Declaration vseth this speach that this order is restored in al rightly reformed churches This title and name he chargeth with open slaunder of many true Christian godly reformed churches besides ours for these are his words Wherevpon after his maner he reasoneth thus sporting him self if not rightly reformed saith he then wroÌ„g fully so not reformed but deformed as hauing driuen out one Deuill by another and remooued one deformitie to establishe another Would a man haue looked for such a replye to this worde but to pacifie his offence taken against right he is to vnderstande that such Churches are here sayde to bee rightlie reformed which are so both in doctrine and in the order of the Church In which respect would to God all the Churches professing the Gospell were reformed But it is playne that notwithstanding they be all in most and the principallest poyntes of doctrine yet some there are not reformed in some poyntes of doctrine and more not in the Euangelicall pollicie and Discipline of the Church Because hee onely toucheth this poynt I am not willing neyther to stande longer vppon it But if hee consider well with him selfe the state of all the Churches of the Gospell I thinke as bolde as hee is to bolster vppe thinges that neede further reformation yet he will not take vpon him to mainteyne that in all thinges all such Churches are rightly reformed Before he cometh to his reasons to prooue the order of the primitiue Church not restored hee forestalleth the argument of the Declaration before he come at it taken from the benefite growing to the reformed Churches by this order and the contrarie losse to others without it But there is no cause to staye vpon his replie to it this matter being after fullie and at large debated by him where shall be aunswered what soeuer he hath materiall to this poynt and because there is little or

and so holde it needles to speake anie more to this matter howe often soeuer the Replier shal charg vs and proceede on to the consideration of such other matter as in the rest of this his first booke he hath layde before vs. Proceeding on with this sentence He rayseth like hues and cryes vpon the declaration for the wordes what pleaseth them after for these of all men and last of all vppon these without all further inquirie naming many idle questions and pulling harde to strayne this to reache to all politike matters The effect wherevnto he tendeth is that nothing is vrged for indifferent amongst vs that is not indifferent and that things being once so established as they are all men should rest in such determination without further question Which things he is content barelie to affirme but it may appeare by the petition presented to the Conuocation house for resolution that sundrie godlie learned and faithfull Ministers not finding many poyntes so cleare as they are made in this place desired to be resolued vpon what good warrant of the worde of God they might reade in their publique ministerie Apocrypha bookes for Canonicall Scripture and that for this respect as more edifying the church then some Canonicall like assurance they desired to haue for to reade sundry most euident apparant abuses of the holy Scripture directlie in sense and in wordes coÌ„trarie to the text Likewise also how as indifferent or not repugnaÌ„t to the word they might holde the reading ministerie the exercise of ciuill power in the Bishops and their so large and immoderate power in causes ecclesiasticall and their forsaking the worke of their calling and the seruice of particular Congregations the iustifying of baptisme by Women cases of necessitie for priuate administration of them rytes misticall and with signification of doctrine besides those which are instituted of our Sauior Christ an office of Deacon without all charge of the poore and for reading of diuine seruice and ministring only the one Sacrament of Baptisme Of these and many other like pointes debated at large both in that petition and in the first part of this defence they desired to bee resolued vpon what grounde of Gods holy worde they might holde them indifferent or not repugnant to the word of god And yet without any aunswere to their peticion without any warrant of the Lawe eyther of God or man A subscription is vrged vpon them not onely as the Replyer setteth it down but as it liketh him whose it is though it beare neither his image nor superscription and sometime in this forme to promise faithfullie by it neyther priuatelie nor publiquelie directlie nor indirectlie to depraue reprooue or reprehende anye gouernement order ryte or ceremonie established c. What cause therefore the Declaration hath to esteeme some not indifferent in shewing what is indifferent appeareth by these Articles Now whereas secondlie he would haue no inquirie of things established let him shewe eyther that all thinges established once by authoritie are well established and ought without anie question to be receyued of all or els he must needes leaue it to the Church and to all the people of God to examine and trye orders setled and established by authoritie But the former can not be prooued by any sufficient or likely reason For that were to continue poperie and paganisme and euery false worship amongst men for euer And to enforce men so without all inquire to receyue what soeuer religion or matter in religion is ordeined by the ciuill Magistrate were to make euerie state established as abhominable an idoll as was the golden Image of Nebuchadnezzar and exalteth Princes of the earth aboue the heauenly King blessed for euer Therefore he must needes leaue it free to the people of God to consider of the ordinances of authoritie Which being lawfull as it is and not lawfull onely but also duetifull and necessarie then in case that any eyther of the Ministerie or other calling shal discouer any thing to haue bin otherwyse decreed then by Gods worde appertayneth it must needes be graunted that such in a reuerent duetiful maner may offer the coÌ„sideratioÌ„ of it to the higher powers that reuisiting their owne former actes vppon further knowledge of the will of God they may amende and reforme whatsoeuer by the worde they shall discerne necessarie to be reformed And thus farre to the effect of the rest of his discourse vppon the sundrie wordes of this sentence The laste sentence of this section wherein the Declaration referreth ouer the intreatinge of the Supremacie till that be declared that concerneth Ecclesiasticall officers the Replyer after hauing played withall a whyle and sought to make him selfe and his friendes merye with vnseasoned iesting speache without any grace of edificatioÌ„ or matter worthie answere passeth on to the next section In that parte which he maketh the next section the Declaration first affirmeth it not needfull nor agreeable to good order of teaching to begin in that treatise First with the Soueraigntie of Princes and after argueth it by reason that that the Church was perfect in all hir regiment when no Princes were Christians and at this day is in good estate where it hath small fauour of them Wherevpon it concludeth that the regiment of the church dependeth not vppon the authoritie of Princes but vpon the ordinance of God Which coÌ„clusion is enlarged by this that god hath so established the Church that as it may greatly prosper with the coÌ„fortable ayde of christiaÌ„ Magistrates so yet it may coÌ„tinue or preuayle against the aduersaries of it without that helpe For the church receiueth helpe of the same to proceede more peaceably and profitably but receyueth all hir authoritie immediatly of god The Replier beginneth with the first of these sentences wherein it is affirmed to be neither needfull nor orderly in teaching to begin to intreate of the supremacie in a discourse of this nature that the Declaration is of And in this sentence he firste vndertaketh to reprooue that it is sayde not to be needfull Wherevnto he entreth with an vntrueth affirming the Declaration to haue alreadie alleadged for one cause of this order to bee least the opinion of such as giue the disposition of all Religon or at least of all indifferent matters in religion to Princes might be otherwise fauoured whereas the Declaration made not mention in anie sorte of those opinions for that purpose but to take occasion from them to satisfie all men concerning the order followed in that treatise His reply to that the Declaration saith it is not needfull to begin with the Supremacie is in effect of no valewe but yeeldeth to the iudgement of the declaration For the Replier confesseth in playn termes it is not needful as of necessitie after alledging Peter the Apostle speaking first of Magistrates sayth likewise that that order is not so needful neyther that it should prescribe Which if it be so what a friuolous reply is

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