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A77654	Heraclitus ridens redivivus; or, a dialogue between Harry and Roger, concerning the times	Brown, Thomas, 1663-1704.	1688 (1688)	Wing B5060A; ESTC R231683	11,174	13

thoughts put their Souls on the Rack so that a Papist must either starve or violate his Conscience ibid. Diss I perceive Harry your compassion leans much on the Popish side and you do not seem much concerned whether a Protestant dies in his Bed or on a Dunghil for if the loss of imployments be an infallible symptom of starving I am afraid there will be found of late more Church of England men put into those uneasie circumstances than there are Papists of any note in the whole Nation And since you would perswade us that the grand project is to imploy all men equally without any regard to their perswasions methinks it does not at all become you in policy to give such early instances of partiality Har. Are not there Church of England men preferred as well as other men do not you see them daily made Deans and Bishops c. Diss So have I seen Bulls and Bears wear Top-knots but I presume they would never have gone to the expence of adorning the Brutes were it not on purpose to expose the fashion Prithee Harry there are Knaves of all persuasions and the Church as well as the Barn breeds Vermin Har. Why are you so much afraid of Papists being put into publick Employments I le assure you they are not such men as you do imagine and whosoever says they are bloody and cruel foully misrepresents then and does not draw them in their proper colours Diss Pray Harry how long have you had such a favourable opinion of their good nature what are all the holy Candles out that you formerly told us were made of Protest Grease at the Irish Massacre Pacq. Nov. 19. 1680. Are there no Popish Friers but that which burnt the City Or have the French Protestants think you left their Estates and come over only for advantage of a Collection These are too bitter things Harry to be so easily digested and if I be not much mistaken I can shew you that some of them are bound by Oaths to give Hereticks no better quarter Har. Surely there is no such thing Diss I do assure you I had it from a very substantial Author Har. Pray who is it I 'll warrant you one of our modern Misrepresenters Diss No I 'll assure you I had it from the worthy Author of the Pacquet of Advice from Rome and certainly he must needs know best what was done there where he kept his weekly correspondence 'T is the Oath which all Popish Bishops take at the time of their Consecration My Author has it at large but I shall here only give you the Clause of it And all Hereticks Schismaticks and such as rebel against our Lord the Pope or his Successors I shall to the uttermost of my power persecute impugn and condemn So help me c. Pacq. Jan. 30. 1679. Har. And does not the Church of England with her Penal Laws come upon you and your Brethren with the same severities Diss Pray where is a Church better seen than in her Articles and Canons And if these are to be looked upon as the Standards of her Doctrin to give the Church of England her due she in her 66. Cannon requires her Bishops Ministers to endeavour by instruction and perswasion to reclaim all Recusants within their respective limits and if some of her Communion did put the Laws in Execution against us with too much rigour the present promotion of several of those Instruments of our Miseries wou'd tempt a man io believe that what they did was not so much out of mistake as by order Har. But now you have a Commission to enquire into what mony was taken from you upon the account of your Religion and so in some measure you may make your selves whole again Diss Prethee Harry why dost not send us to the Spanish Wrack to dive for Gold and Silver on my Conscience I believe it would be to as much purpose If you will procure us all that was returned into the Exchequer that will indeed encourage and enable us to sue for the rest and surely you do not think that the Exchequer ought to thrive by oppression no more than a private Gentleman's pocket Har. If you consent to take off the Test you do not know what may be done for you and methinks you of all people should be ready to comply since you are so much obliged for the Toleration and you know one good turn always requires another Diss Suppose the Church of England men had complied to take off the Tests dost think then we wou'd have been such Favourites I find it was our turn to be asked last we have something of Original Sin that still sticks to us and I am afraid when Popery comes in we that have no foundation and are as it were strangers in the land must expect that this liberty will only encrease our future task and put us further into the house of bondage Har. You shall have a Magna Charta for Liberty of Conscience and that you know is like the Laws of the Medes and Persians unalterable Diss I must be a fool by thy own Maxim if I believe thee for have not you said in your Pacquet that he is only fit to be Rechorder of Goatham who does not foresee that if ever the Papists prevail Magna Charta and the Bible must down together pacq Nov. 21. 1679. But now I think on 't how will this Magna Charta and the Magna Charta of the Council of Lateran stand together which is so far from giving Liberty of Conscience that it will not allow Hereticks the common priviledg of living Har. Has not Sir Roger cleared that difficulty sufficiently when he told you that when they are rightly distinguished they may very well stand together for the degrees of the Church of Rome are Religious this Liberty you are offered is a civil point Answer to the Letter to Dissenters p. 7. Diss Well now I find true what I always suspected that this Liberty was grounded upon a trick of state and not upon a Religious conviction of judgment So that when the Government shall not stand in need of such Arts that is when Popery is too powerful to submit to such condescensions we must expect to be thrown off and sink again into the state of suffering Har. I do assure you it has been the constant judgment of Papists that men all ought to have Liberty of Conscience and they are very ill men and you ought not to joyn with them who wou'd perswade you to the contrary Diss Devide impera I know its the Papists rule as well as the polititian's Prithee Harry he that is but Eight and twenty years old has lived long enough to seee their Methods of destroying the Protestant Religion and it is mostly by playing fast and loose with the Dissenters Sometimes the Dissenter is a Heretick and a Rebel all the cry must be crucifie him crucifie him at another time he is all innocence

the Pope to part with the Franchises as bring them to pray to the People in an unknown Tongue T'other day a Friend of ours I suppose after reading my project of Accommodation asked a Church-man in case the Church of Rome should give up Transubstantiation what would the Church of England part with in order to a reconciliation And what dost think the Church-man offered in exchange Har. Why the Nine and thirty Articles I suppose Rog. I protest only Passive-Obedience and I wou'd no more take that Principle from them then I wou'd unshackle a Mad-man Passive valor is a virtue I love in an Enemy and 't is as necessary for our preservation that they hold this Doctrine as 't is for the Grand Seignior that a Bassa believes that of Fatality when he is to undergo the discipline of the Bow-string Har. I give the Church of England men for lost and therefore for my part my Province shall be to gain the Dissenters I think the wind blows fairest from that side Rog. Prithee Harry how cam'st thee to be either beloved by the Papists or believed by the Dissenters I am sure you have spoke as severe things of the Papists as ever I did of the Fanaticks and yet by a sudden turn you are become as gracious as if you were a Convert of some considerable standing Har. I perceive you don 't understand the virtue of Holy Water this powerful sprinkling will immediately restore a man to the state of Innocence Had Adam but known this easie receipt he would never have been at the expence of Fig-leaves You must know I have all my old sins forgiven me and I am now as clean as if I had been over head and ears in Jordan Rog. But all thy washing will not clear thy contradiction thy Pacquet of Advice and the Weekly Occurrences are as opposite as Fire and Wa●er and I wonder how thou canst so shamefully prevaricate without one single blush to alter thy Complexion When I was press'd hard with my former opinions I set off the false coin with some plausible Varnish and always distinguished where I could not fairly deny But thou wou'dst fain cheat even in spite of day-light th● juggle is so easily detected that by thus openl● publishing thy Shame one wou'd think this ●as● was given thee not so much that thy Master had need of thy pain as to oblige thee to a penance Har. Puh Sir Roger you know words are wind and why should one no more than t'othe● be tied to one point of the Compass he that ca● turn and double upon a Stage is always applauded for his performance and why may not a dexterous change of Opinion be as much commended for the activity of the Brain as the other is for the agility of Body Rog. In troth Harry I much confess thy Brain is of a very singular constitution and thy late Writings are such Originals that for my part I think thou deservest to have a patent for Scribling thou art of late the very Darling of the Papists and thou carriest on the business of Rome so vigorously that I do not doubt in a short time to see thee Secretary to the Conclave Har. Why I believe I do them no small service with my Occurrences I take from them the odium of persecution by fixing it upon the Church of England I fill the peoples heads so full with Penal Laws that there is no room left for the Inquisition and if any one blabs about Q Mary's days I immediately stop his mouth with the Thirty fifth of Elizabeth Rog. But you are very frugal in giving Instances of the Severities of the Church of England not above one in a Paper Har. You must know he that has not much Butter must spread it thin I must make the most of what I have for I am afraid hereafter I am not like to have from that side any more Examples But if you observed I manage matters to the best advantage When once upon a time there was taken from a Quaker a Warming-pan for the Church dues I put in a notable inuendo and hinted that 't was then cold weather what think you may not that be called the Warming-pan Persecution Rog. Ay That was indeed hot and firy to take a Warming-pan from a Quaker was a little too unchristian whom not only the Season but his Religion obliged to frequent fits of shaking Har. And now you talk of your distinguishing I think I have had lately a notable fetch that way too When I had in one of my Occurrences accused the Clergy of London of cheating the Poor of Sion Colledge in keeping from them the Charity of their Founder Occur Numb 11. And the malice and falshood of my accusation being unluckily published I was hard put to it to avoid the Charge of Evil Speaking Lying and Slandering therefore in my next Paper I did protest that in my former Story I did not intend to reflect upon the London Clergy Occur Num. 12. So that here is the Clergy of London and the London Clergy make up a very serviceable Distinction Rog. Your Occurrences then I perceive are to insult over the Church of England and thereby to divert the Papists and gain the Dissenters Har. You are in the right on 't this Church of England you know is our greatest obstacle it vexes me to think that an heretical Church shoud be by Law established these Laws are such unlucky ways of forfeiting that they stand more in our way than Walls and Bastions Could we but once level their Work you would not find it long before we fell to storming and I think we have already made some considerable advances Rog. And do the Dissenters come on kindly Har. Why truly some of them are p●etty forward and we favour them accordingly we do as the Patriarch did of old he that comes in first receives the Blessing if they promise fairly then we place them in convenient stations we put them in such posts that are something for their honour as well as for our use Rog. I must confess for my part I am not for advancing the Dissenters too much and tho I cannot but approve of their present behaviour yet I am not for trusting them too far for they are slippery Creatures Har. Tru●ting them quoth a Why who does Have you ever seen a Dissenter at the head of a Regiment have you ever heard that any of them was made Lieutenant of the Tower or Governour of a Garrison The Offices they are generally put into are places of Expence and not profit If any of them has a Mandat to be Mayor or Alderman of a Town he is so precarious in his Office that he dares not make one false step upon pain of another Regulation and withall they commonly act in confunction with Papists so that they are no more than Vnder-Workmen they are only employed not trusted Rog. Here is a Dissenter coming I guess he comes to beg your assistance Harry either