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but_o unprofitable_a mourning_n vain_a complaint_n and_o a_o miserable_a form_n of_o the_o spoil_v field_n even_o so_o contentionum_fw-la pestis_fw-la &_o impia_fw-la haeresis_fw-la eodem_fw-la modo_fw-la progrediens_fw-la non_fw-la quicquam_fw-la aliud_fw-la quà m_fw-la turpem_fw-la &_o calamito_fw-la same_o rerum_fw-la faciem_fw-la in_fw-la florentissimo_fw-la antè_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la agro_fw-la post_fw-la se_fw-la relinquit_fw-la the_o plague_n of_o contention_n and_o wicked_a heresy_n procede_v in_o like_a manner_n leave_v nothing_o after_o it_o but_o a_o miserable_a and_o pitiful_a face_n and_o show_v of_o thing_n in_o that_o place_n which_o be_v before_o the_o flourish_a field_n of_o the_o church_n consider_v what_o the_o wiseman_n say_v proverb_n 17._o the_o beginning_n of_o strife_n be_v as_o one_o that_o open_v the_o water_n it_o have_v be_v well_o if_o the_o beginning_n have_v be_v withstand_v but_o see_v that_o be_v neglect_v and_o rather_o by_o some_o further_v than_o 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the_o like_a time_n nec_fw-la quicquam_fw-la vos_fw-la moveant_fw-la atroces_n illaecalumniae_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v not_o those_o bitter_a reproach_n ecclesiast_fw-la zuinglius_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ecclesiast_fw-la and_o cavil_v speech_n wherewith_o the_o anabaptiste_n and_o other_o studious_a of_o contention_n and_o discord_n oppress_v you_o move_v you_o any_o thing_n at_o all_o because_o you_o rather_o follow_v christ_n than_o they_o for_o although_o they_o call_v you_o wicked_a and_o infidel_n yet_o yourselves_o best_o know_v what_o your_o confidence_n in_o god_n be_v and_o what_o be_v your_o meaning_n and_o purpose_n so_o that_o so_o often_o as_o they_o accuse_v you_o of_o impiety_n or_o of_o infidelity_n so_o oft_o do_v they_o minister_v manifest_a proof_n unto_o you_o that_o their_o spirit_n procee_v from_o the_o father_n of_o lie_n and_o marvel_v not_o at_o those_o bitter_a contention_n you_o know_v it_o to_o be_v true_a that_o the_o same_o zuinglius_fw-la also_o say_v nec_fw-la enim_fw-la aliud_fw-la est_fw-la communis_fw-la illius_fw-la hostess_fw-la nostri_fw-la ingenium_fw-la etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o subtle_a e_o of_o our_o common_a enemy_n this_o be_v his_o manner_n hereunto_o do_v he_o bend_v himself_o whole_o and_o sleep_v not_o that_o as_o soon_o as_o the_o lord_n have_v reveal_v the_o light_n of_o his_o word_n he_o also_o by_o and_o by_o sow_v darnel_n this_o do_v almost_o all_o the_o epistle_n of_o s._n paul_n teach_v we_o wherein_o it_o be_v manifest_o declare_v that_o there_o have_v be_v always_o some_o man_n pietatis_fw-la simulatores_fw-la potiùs_fw-la quà m_fw-la cultores_fw-la rather_o feyner_n of_o holiness_n than_o embracer_n of_o it_o who_o for_o certain_a external_a and_o unprofitable_a thing_n doubt_v not_o to_o lay_v as_o it_o be_v grevous_a stumble_a block_n to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n only_o let_v we_o be_v diligent_a in_o our_o vocation_n earnest_n against_o all_o kind_n of_o enemy_n fervent_a in_o prayer_n for_o the_o preservation_n of_o the_o queen_n majesty_n and_o for_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n with_o the_o good_a success_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o vigilant_a that_o error_n be_v not_o publish_v without_o controlment_n and_o god_n will_v ere_o it_o be_v long_o if_o our_o sin_n deserve_v not_o the_o contrary_a give_v peace_n to_o this_o church_n as_o he_o have_v do_v to_o other_o disturb_a in_o like_a manner_n to_o conclude_v i_o do_v charge_n all_o man_n before_o god_n and_o his_o angel_n as_o they_o will_v answer_v at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n that_o under_o the_o pretence_n of_o zeal_n they_o seek_v not_o the_o spoil_n of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o colour_n of_o perfection_n they_o work_n not_o confusion_n under_o the_o cloak_n of_o simplicity_n they_o cover_v not_o pride_n ambition_n vainglory_n arrogancy_n under_o the_o outward_a show_n of_o godliness_n they_o nourish_v not_o contempt_n of_o magistrate_n popularity_n anabaptistry_n and_o sundry_a other_o pernicious_a and_o pestilent_a error_n the_o lord_n make_v we_o thankful_a for_o his_o infinite_a mercy_n and_o singular_a goodness_n bestow_v upon_o we_o in_o thus_o long_o continue_v his_o gospel_n preserve_v our_o most_o gracious_a and_o love_a queen_n and_o overthrow_v all_o the_o conspiracy_n and_o devise_n that_o the_o devil_n have_v hitherto_o invent_v to_o molest_v this_o state_n and_o church_n ¶_o a_o note_n of_o such_o dangerous_a point_n of_o doctrine_n as_o be_v avouch_v by_o t._n c._n in_o his_o reply_n and_o quote_v as_o they_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o this_o book_n he_o say_v that_o certain_a of_o the_o thing_n which_o we_o stand_v upon_o be_v such_o as_o if_o every_o hear_v of_o out_o head_n be_v a_o life_n we_o ought_v to_o afford_v they_o for_o the_o defence_n of_o they_o whereby_o he_o will_v insinuate_v that_o this_o church_n of_o england_n do_v maintain_v some_o damnable_a doctrine_n pag._n 44._o 2_o he_o say_v that_o if_o the_o church_n be_v consider_v in_o the_o whole_a and_o general_a government_n and_o outward_a policy_n of_o it_o it_o may_v be_v pure_a and_o unspotted_a which_o smell_v of_o a_o anabaptisticall_a fancy_n pag._n 50._o 3_o he_o affirm_v that_o many_o thing_n be_v both_o command_v and_o forbid_v of_o which_o there_o be_v no_o express_a mention_n in_o the_o word_n which_o be_v as_o necessary_o to_o be_v follow_v or_o avoid_v as_o those_o whereof_o express_a mention_n be_v make_v which_o sound_v to_o the_o confirmation_n of_o the_o very_a foundation_n of_o all_o papistry_n pag._n 77._o 4_z he_z holdeth_z that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o free_a will_n be_v not_o repugnant_a to_o salvation_n and_o yet_o be_v it_o a_o doctrine_n clean_o contrary_a to_o free_a justification_n by_o christ_n pag._n 82._o 5_z he_o say_v that_o all_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n and_o of_o the_o apostle_n be_v needful_a for_o our_o salvation_n which_o be_v a_o notorious_a error_n pag._n 103._o 6_z he_o utter_o deny_v that_o any_o magistrate_n can_v fave_v the_o life_n of_o blasphemer_n contemptuous_a and_o stubborn_a i_o dolater_n
not_o new_a but_o renew_v no_o stranger_n but_o bear_v in_o zion_n whereunto_o it_o be_v before_o unjust_o banish_v ought_v now_o of_o right_a to_o be_v restore_v io._n whitgifte_n snre_o the_o offence_n be_v take_v both_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o person_n and_o of_o the_o cause_n neither_o be_v either_o the_o person_n or_o the_o cause_n charge_v with_o any_o thing_n by_o i_o but_o i_o be_o ready_a either_o to_o prove_v it_o or_o to_o retract_v it_o the_o antiquity_n of_o it_o and_o the_o strangeness_n we_o must_v refer_v to_o be_v judge_v of_o the_o reader_n when_o we_o have_v both_o write_v what_o we_o can_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o suppose_v that_o your_o devise_n with_o the_o circumstance_n will_v appear_v not_o only_o not_o to_o be_v ancient_a but_o very_o strange_a and_o late_o devise_v although_o in_o such_o matter_n antiquity_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v a_o thing_n convenient_a except_o it_o agree_v with_o the_o circumstance_n of_o time_n place_n and_o person_n 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