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A91949 The eighth part of The Christian-Quaker distinguished from the apostate & innovator wherein certain doctrines ... are examined, and in order to a decision of the controversie ... an adress [sic] is made to a book entituled, An Adress to Protestants, given forth by W.P. anno 1679 ... / by W.R.; Christian-Quaker distinguished from the apostate & innovator. Part 8 Rogers, William, d. ca. 1709. 1682 (1682) Wing R1859; ESTC R42303 16,087 16

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since he himself hath testified in a General Epistle Printed for M. W. in these words They that do so viz. Set up Outward Things gathers to themselves not unto God which is a notable Proof that for many years past he hath been gathering to himself not unto God and what is the Fruit of such his gathering To answer that question would require a large volumn I shall only say it hath scattered many of the Flock from the green Pastures whereon they were feeding and Shilohs Streams wherewith their own Cisterns were filled to feed upon the four Leaven of some Hypocritical Pharisees to drink of their muddy waters If any shall think this a digression from the Matter expected to be treated on to such I say The ill Savour and groundless occasion of our Adversaries aforesaid words Confusion Rebellion Looseness and Ranterism from one whom I took to be in his own sense a Dignity were the occasion thereof and I question not but such as are gifted to discern things as they are will perceive that those words as applyed by the Pen-man of the Accuser are only to represent Men fearing God and loving Righteousness in a Bear-Skin to be worried 'T is very apparent that our Opposers have frequently shewn their Teeth by their clamorous Treatment but blessed be the Lord they have no power to Bite And having rejected many Warnings are now worthily discovered according to their Merit whereby if they are rendred a Derision to the Heathen and a Scorn to Fools Let them know 't is but a part of the Reward and Recompense of the Fruit of their own doings I shall now return to speak more particularly to the matter which from the Title Page may be expected In the Third Page of a small Tract Stiled A Brief Examination and State of Liberty Spiritual lately Published I find it written in these words 'T is a dangerous Principle and pernitious to True Religion and that which is worse 't is the Root of Ranterisme to assert That nothing is a Duty incumbent upon thee but what thou art perswaded is thy Duty This Doctrine is near of kin to the aforesaid Doctrine mentioned in the Accuser c. and as it relates to Christian Religion is Repugnant to the Testimony of W. P. in his Adress to Protestants Page 144. in these words Christian Religion ought to be carried on by that way by which it was Interoduced which was Perswasion But yet to do the Penman of the Tract Stiled A Brief Examination c. Right He in his following words makes the Application to seared dark and dead Consciences as if thereby such were uncondemned To take his meaning thereon yet it cannot reasonably be understood otherwise than thus Viz. That his aforesaid Notion must have a Tendency that some Religious Performance is incumbent on such though they are not perswaded thereof Let us now suppose that the seared dark and dead Conscience should strictly perform some Religious Exercise as his Duty meerly from the direction of another we are now to enquire What is the benefit thereof to such To this let W. P. in his aforesaid Adr. to Prot. pag. 146. answer his words are these If I believe what she that is to say the Church believes only because she believes it and not because I am convinced in my Understanding and Conscience of the truth of what she believes my Faith is false though hers be true And indeed well might W. P. so testifie for if a blind Offering under the Law was condemnable it is not justifiable under a Gospel Dispensation Having laid down the Doctrines on which our Opposers ungodly Constructions are founded I need not enlarge to remove such Constructions let the Reader peruse what he is already referred unto in the Christian-Quaker and compare the same with W. P. his Adress to Protestants pages 77. 91. 92. 93. 94. 95. 140. 141. 144. 146. and divers other Parts and the Righteousness of what we stand for and against will be sufficiently manifested One other Doctrine pertinent to my purpose occurs in my Memory it is in the eleventh Page of the aforesaid Tract stiled A Brief Examination c. namely that this is a loose Plea Viz. ' What hast thou to do with me ' leave me to my Freedom and the Grace of God in my self which leads me thus to Observe If our antient Friends John Story and John Wilkingson when articled against for not * acting in things against their Conscience PLACE = marg Witness a part of the 44 Articles exhibited against them should have told the busie Persons concerned therein What have you to do with us leave us to our Freedom and the Grace of God in our selves might not this have merited a just Approbation from the Primitive Preachers of Christs Light in these latter days whose Doctrine hath been That the Grace is sufficient and that every one is to be left to his own measure antiently understood by this manner of speech Viz. Our own Freedom Every Reader is now left free to consider whether a rendering such a Plea of being left to our own Freedom and the Grace of God in our selves to be a loose Plea is not the mark of one that is departed from the antient Principle of Truth a Discourager of having a Dependency on the measure of Grace in our selves and so by natural consequence may be looked upon as one holding forth a loose or false Liberty the tendency whereof is to depart from the Blessed Spirit of Truth and rebel against the perfect Law of Liberty in the Heart It needs no large Coment to shew that such as slightly esteem of a Plea to be left unto our Freedom and the Grace of God in our selves may easily be led like Blind men into any Ditch It is observable that G. F. his Party have not only slighted such a Plea of being left to the Grace of God in our selves but have a sort of Veneration for the Outward Directions of another C. T. his Epistle and the Accuser c. are to me an evidence of such a Veneration How much credit this may add to any so minded that have manifested a dislike of the Presbyterian Directory not altogether for the matter therein contained but also that an outward Directory should be exalted as a Christians Rule under the Ministration of Light in this Gospel Day let the wise in heart judge But to state a case in favour of the Doctrine which we oppose let us behold how it will then look Suppose that the Lord had in every Age under the Gospel Dispensation placed one outward and visible man to be an eye to see for the rest of the Body which I dare not grant and that on that foot G. F. should be declared to be that Eye in this our day yet it would be irrational to require submission to his Prescriptions or Decrees from such as are not convinced that he is placed as such an Eye If thus much be