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A62868 Felo de se, or, Mr. Richard Baxter's self-destroying manifested in twenty arguments against infant-baptism / gathered out of his own writing, in his second disputation of right to sacraments by John Tombes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1659 (1659) Wing T1806; ESTC R33836 48,674 44

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