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A19033 The plea for infants and elder people, concerning their baptisme, or, A processe of the passages between M. Iohn Smyth and Richard Clyfton wherein, first is proved, that the baptising of infants of beleevers, is an ordinance of God, secondly, that the rebaptising of such, as have been formerly baptised in the apostate churches of Christians, is utterly unlawful, also, the reasons and objects to the contrarie, answered : divided into two principal heads, I. Of the first position, concerning the baptising of infants, II. Of the second position, concerning the rebaptising of elder people. Clyfton, Richard, d. 1616. 1610 (1610) STC 5450; ESTC S1572 214,939 244

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comparison_n &_o touch_v not_o the_o thing_n in_o question_n you_o may_v know_v that_o faith_n can_v not_o entitle_v the_o female_n to_o circumcision_n when_o they_o have_v no_o commandment_n for_o it_o in_o the_o gaylor_n &_o lydias_n family_n the_o woman_n be_v capable_a of_o the_o seal_n by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n again_o concern_v the_o male_n infidelity_n might_n and_o do_v hinder_v from_o circumcision_n as_o it_o do_v the_o gentile_n which_o receive_v not_o the_o faith_n and_o so_o infidelity_n exclude_v from_o baptism_n both_o male_n &_o female_n as_o for_o infant_n they_o can_v not_o be_v say_v to_o be_v infidel_n or_o unbeliever_n for_o they_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o promise_n which_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o faith_n else_o 2d_o else_o rev._n 2d_o be_v they_o under_o condemnation_n to_o the_o second_o particular_a of_o my_o answer_n you_o reply_v thus_o i_o answer_v that_o in_o this_o particular_a there_o be_v difference_n betwixt_o the_o one_o act_n of_o abraham_n and_o the_o other_o of_o lydia_n and_o the_o jailer_n according_a to_o the_o commission_n of_o christ_n mat._n 28._o 19_o 1._o abraham_n and_o all_o his_o family_n by_o the_o lord_n commandment_n come_v under_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n actual_o &_o the_o male_n only_o be_v circumcise_v but_o christ_n do_v not_o command_v all_o person_n of_o a_o family_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o be_v baptize_v but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v make_v disciple_n 2._o the_o gospel_n be_v only_o preach_v to_o abraham_n own_o person_n but_o in_o the_o gaylors_n case_n paul_n preach_v to_o all_o that_o be_v in_o his_o house_n etc._n etc._n 3._o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o preach_v to_o abraham_n thereby_o to_o prepare_v he_o to_o circumcision_n as_o if_o thereby_o it_o shall_v follow_v that_o circumcision_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o gospel_n for_o it_o be_v not_o so_o etc._n etc._n but_o christ_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n command_v the_o gospel_n to_o be_v preach_v to_o every_o parricular_a person_n that_o be_v to_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n and_o so_o paul_n do_v to_o the_o gaylors_n family_n to_o your_o first_o difference_n i_o answer_v as_o former_o i_o have_v do_v that_o abraham_n and_o his_o family_n come_v not_o under_o the_o old_a testament_n or_o covenant_n of_o work_n see_v it_o be_v not_o make_v with_o he_o but_o with_o israel_n afterward_o by_o the_o ministry_n of_o moses_n 2._o your_o comparison_n shall_v thus_o be_v propound_v as_o abraham_n &_o all_o his_o family_n come_v under_o the_o covenaunt_n of_o god_n so_o likewise_o do_v the_o faithful_a of_o the_o gentile_n and_o their_o family_n &_o therefore_o as_o abraham_n and_o his_o family_n be_v circumcise_v so_o ought_v the_o faithful_a and_o their_o family_n to_o be_v baptize_v thus_o hold_v the_o comparison_n and_o thus_o it_o be_v against_o you_o and_o you_o do_v but_o beg_v the_o question_n in_o say_v that_o christ_n command_v not_o all_o the_o person_n of_o of_o a_o family_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o be_v baptize_v for_o this_o be_v defend_v against_o you_o that_o christ_n commandment_n of_o baptise_v extend_v to_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o believer_n as_o well_o as_o to_o themselves_o to_o your_o 2._o difference_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o gospel_n which_o be_v by_o the_o lord_n preach_v to_o abraham_n be_v by_o 8._o by_o gen._n 11._o 1●_n 19_o &_o 12._o 15_a gal._n 8._o he_o preach_v to_o his_o family_n to_o your_o three_o difference_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o gospel_n be_v preach_v to_o abr_n to_o be_v the_o mean_n and_o ground_n of_o his_o faith_n &_o circumcision_n be_v give_v to_o he_o to_o be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n &_o therefore_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o be_v preach_v unto_o he_o and_o so_o the_o gospel_n be_v preach_v to_o lydia_n &_o the_o jailer_n &_o baptism_n give_v for_o the_o same_o use_n as_o circumcision_n be_v to_o abraham_n and_o where_o you_o say_v christ_n command_v the_o 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covenant_n be_v spiritual_a though_o by_o nature_n they_o be_v carnal_a concern_v rom._n 9_o 8._o see_v page_n 63._o the_o apostle_n prove_v god_n to_o be_v 8_o rom._n 9_o 8_o faithful_a show_v withal_o that_o though_o the_o promise_n be_v make_v indefinite_o to_o all_o the_o israelite_n yet_o all_o that_o be_v carnal_o beget_v of_o israel_n be_v not_o true_a israelite_n save_v only_o such_o as_o be_v the_o child_n of_o the_o promise_n verse_n 7._o 9_o but_o he_o intend_v not_o to_o oppose_v all_o the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n natural_o beget_v to_o the_o child_n of_o the_o promise_n for_o than_o shall_v isaac_n be_v oppose_v against_o himself_o for_o he_o be_v both_o the_o natural_a seed_n of_o abraham_n and_o a_o child_n of_o the_o promise_n but_o this_o he_o teach_v that_o although_o many_o be_v repute_v the_o son_n of_o god_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o promise_n which_o be_v make_v indefinite_o to_o all_o the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n and_o to_o all_o that_o be_v call_v to_o be_v 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