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B08923 Memoires of Mr. Des-Ecotais: formerly stiled in the Church of Rome the most venerable Father Cassianus of Paris, priest and preacher of the Order of the Capucins. Or, The motives of his conversion. Divided into two parts. I. That the doctrin of the now Roman church is not grounded neither upon the Holy Scripture; neither upon the belief of the primitive church or the authority of the Holy Fathers, which is more particularly and more evidently verified in the examination of the belief of Rome concerning the Eucharist. II. That the church of Rome is not the true church; that it doth not enjoy, as absolutely its own, out-shutting all other churches, neither the antiquity of the belief, neither the multitude of the people, neither the true and lawful succession of the bishops; that the authority thereof is not infallible, and that it is full of errors and corruptions. Des Ecotais, Louis. 1677 (1677) Wing D1174AA; ESTC R204416 150,657 428

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cydevant_a est_fw-fr tombée_fw-fr dans_fw-fr la_fw-fr corruption_n et_fw-fr dans_fw-fr l_o erreur_fw-fr §_o 1._o corruption_n horrible_a dans_fw-fr ses_fw-fr moeurs_fw-fr p._n 80._o §_o 2._o erreur_n extremement_n grossiere_n dans_fw-fr sa_fw-fr doctrine_n pag._n 88_o conclusion_n generale_fw-mi que_fw-fr j'estois_fw-fr engagé_fw-fr de_fw-fr sortir_fw-fr de_fw-fr l'eglise_fw-fr de_fw-fr rome_n aprés_fw-fr que_fw-fr dieu_fw-fr m'en_fw-fr eut_fw-fr fait_fw-fr connoître_fw-fr les_fw-fr erreur_n par_fw-fr les_fw-fr degrés_fw-fr que_fw-fr j'ay_fw-fr marqués_fw-fr dans_fw-fr les_fw-fr deux_fw-fr party_n de_fw-fr ce_fw-fr discourse_n pag._n 88_o §_o 1._o l'occasion_n d'un_fw-fr sermon_n que_fw-fr je_fw-fr préchay_fw-mi sur_fw-fr le_fw-fr sujet_fw-fr du_fw-fr sacrament_n i_o rappella_fw-mi dans_fw-fr l'esprit_fw-fr toutes_fw-fr les_fw-fr idées_fw-fr que_fw-fr j'avois_fw-fr des_fw-fr erreur_n de_fw-fr rome_n pag._n 91._o §_o 2._o les_fw-fr repugnance_n que_fw-fr je_fw-fr souffris_fw-fr et_fw-fr les_fw-fr difficultés_fw-fr qu'il_fw-fr i_o falut_fw-fr surmonter_v pag._n 94._o §_o 3._o les_fw-fr raisons_fw-fr que_fw-fr je_fw-fr meditay_n dans_fw-fr mon_fw-fr esprit_fw-fr pour_fw-fr differer_n ma_fw-fr conversion_n pag._n 96._o §_o 4._o dieu_fw-fr par_fw-fr sa_fw-fr misericorde_fw-la i_o fait_fw-fr vivement_n comprendre_fw-fr le_fw-fr grand_fw-fr peché_fw-fr que_fw-fr c'est_fw-fr que_fw-fr de_fw-fr s'opposer_n au_fw-fr saint_n esprit_fw-fr et_fw-fr ainsi_fw-fr acheve_fw-mi ma_fw-fr conversion_n en_fw-fr i_o faisant_fw-fr genereusement_n abandonner_fw-fr la_fw-fr communion_n de_fw-fr rome_n pag._n 101._o table_n introduction_n §_o 1._o the_o reason_n wherefore_o i_o have_v be_v engage_v to_o write_v these_o memoires_n pag._n 1._o §_o 2._o that_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o man_n who_o do_v live_v in_o the_o error_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o very_a great_a miracle_n pag._n 5._o §_o 3._o after_o what_o manner_n and_o by_o what_o degree_n the_o spirit_n of_o god_n make_v i_o understand_v my_o error_n pag._n 9_o first_o part_n that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v not_o ground_v neither_o upon_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n or_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n chap._n i._n how_o i_o understand_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v not_o ground_v upon_o the_o scripture_n §_o 1._o the_o read_n of_o the_o scripture_n dispose_v i_o to_o acknowledge_v the_o error_n of_o rome_n pag._n 11._o §_o 2._o the_o error_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n whereof_o i_o be_v persuade_v make_v i_o find_v in_o the_o scripture_n many_o difficulty_n many_o insufficiency_n and_o many_o contradiction_n pap_n 16._o §_o 3._o circumstance_n which_o do_v contribute_v to_o hasten_v my_o conversion_n pag._n 22._o §_o 4._o conclusion_n of_o this_o chapter_n that_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n can_v be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n pag._n 26._o chap._n ii_o how_o i_o understand_v that_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v not_o ground_v upon_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n nor_o upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n introduction_n the_o read_n of_o the_o book_n concern_v the_o perpetuity_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o eucharist_n be_v a_o occasion_n to_o i_o to_o examine_v in_o particular_a the_o belief_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n about_o that_o matter_n pag._n 30._o division_n of_o the_o error_n of_o rome_n concern_v the_o eucharist_n pag._n 34._o section_n i._o that_o the_o belief_n of_o rome_n about_o the_o real_a presence_n in_o the_o sense_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v a_o new_a doctrine_n in_o the_o church_n i._n first_o proof_n draw_v out_o of_o the_o argument_n wherewith_o the_o father_n of_o the_o church_n have_v wont_a to_o dispute_v against_o the_o heathen_n pag._n 36._o ii_o second_o proof_n draw_v out_o of_o the_o reason_n wherewith_o the_o same_o father_n have_v wont_a to_o dispute_v against_o the_o heretic_n pag._n 41._o iii_o three_o proof_n draw_v out_o of_o the_o manner_n whereafter_o the_o father_n have_v wont_a to_o speak_v of_o the_o holy_a saerament_fw-mi pag._n 44._o iu._n four_o proof_n draw_v out_o of_o the_o novelty_n of_o the_o doctrine_n teach_v transubstantiation_n pag._n 48_o section_n ii_o that_o that_o which_o be_v teach_v of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v a_o doctrine_n contrary_n to_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n i._o in_o what_o sense_n it_o be_v true_a to_o say_v that_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n be_v a_o sacrifice_n pag._n 50._o ii_o that_o the_o pretend_a propitiatory_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n pag._n 53._o iii_o what_o have_v give_v occasion_n to_o that_o error_n and_o the_o degree_n of_o corruption_n which_o bring_v forth_o that_o belief_n pag._n 56._o iv_o that_o the_o horrid_a abuse_n which_o be_v slide_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n to_o offer_v their_o sacrifice_n in_o the_o honour_n of_o saint_n be_v a_o practice_n contrary_a to_o that_o of_o the_o primitive_a church_n pag._n 59_o section_n iii_o that_o the_o manner_n of_o administer_a the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v quite_o different_a and_o very_o much_o oppose_v to_o that_o to_o which_o they_o be_v use_v in_o the_o first_o age_n of_o the_o church_n i._o that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o in_o the_o first_o age_n of_o the_o church_n they_o give_v the_o communion_n to_o all_o the_o people_n under_o both_o kind_n they_o worship_v not_o the_o host_n and_o celebrate_v not_o the_o holy_a mystery_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n pag._n 64._o ii_o the_o beginning_n of_o all_o the_o error_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n pag._n 70._o 1._o the_o beginning_n of_o the_o abridgement_n of_o the_o cup._n pag._n 71._o 2._o the_o beginning_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o host_n pag._n 74._o 3._o the_o beginning_n of_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n pag._n 78._o conclusion_n of_o the_o first_o part._n that_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n can_v be_v prove_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n nor_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n pag._n 80._o second_o part._n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n that_o its_o authority_n be_v not_o infallible_a and_o that_o it_o be_v full_a of_o corruption_n and_o error_n introduction_n the_o divine_a providence_n bring_v forth_o some_o occasion_n which_o make_v i_o resolve_v to_o examine_v the_o very_a first_o ground_n of_o the_o question_n concern_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n pag._n 1._o 1._o the_o occasion_n that_o i_o have_v to_o examine_v anew_o all_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n all_o which_o i_o reduce_v to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o same_o church_n pag._n 3._o 2._o the_o occasion_n that_o i_o have_v to_o doubt_v of_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o pope_n make_v i_o resolve_v to_o examine_v again_o and_o without_o passion_n upon_o which_o be_v ground_v that_o authority_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n boast_v so_o much_o pag._n 6._o 3._o circumstance_n wherewith_o i_o begin_v to_o examine_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o what_o i_o do_v design_n in_o the_o rehearsal_n of_o they_o pag._n 12._o chap._n i._n of_o the_o pretend_a ground_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n pag._n 16._o section_n i._n that_o antiquity_n multitude_n and_o succession_n be_v not_o privilege_n which_o ever_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v enjoy_v above_o all_o other_o church_n pag._n 20._o §_o 1._o that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v not_o the_o elder_a of_o all_o the_o church_n pag._n 21_o §_o 2._o that_o the_o multitude_n be_v not_o on_o the_o roman_a church_n side_n pag._n 25._o §_o 3._o that_o other_o church_n as_o well_o as_o the_o roman_a have_v their_o succession_n from_o bishop_n to_o bishop_n from_o the_o very_a apostle_n pag._n 29._o section_n ii_o that_o neither_o antiquity_n neither_o multitude_n neither_o succession_n be_v not_o infallible_a mark_n of_o the_o true_a church_n and_o consequent_o that_o a_o church_n may_v have_v they_o all_o and_o with_o they_o all_o be_v a_o heretical_a church_n pag._n 32._o §_o 1._o that_o antiquity_n be_v not_o a_o infallible_a mark_n of_o the_o true_a church_n pag._n 33._o §_o 2._o that_o the_o multitude_n be_v not_o a_o infallible_a mark_n of_o the_o true_a church_n pag._n 39_o §_o 3._o that_o the_o succession_n be_v not_o a_o infallible_a mark_n of_o the_o true_a church_n pag._n 45._o conclusion_n that_o it_o be_v the_o succession_n of_o the_o true_a doctrine_n from_o the_o apostle_n which_o be_v a_o infallible_a mark_n of_o the_o true_a church_n and_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o have_v not_o the_o succession_n of_o the_o doctrine_n have_v no_o reason_n to_o boast_v neither_o of_o its_o antiquity_n neither_o of_o the_o multitude_n neither_o
roman_a church_n not_o to_o be_v ground_v on_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n neither_o on_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n introduction_n the_o read_n of_o the_o book_n concern_v the_o perpetuity_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o eucharist_n be_v a_o occasion_n to_o i_o to_o examine_v in_o particular_a the_o belief_n of_o rome_n about_o that_o matter_n thus_o the_o affair_n of_o my_o conversion_n depend_v when_o providence_n that_o watch_v after_o the_o mean_n to_o work_v out_o my_o safety_n bring_v forth_o a_o occasion_n that_o do_v contribute_v very_o much_o to_o reduce_v all_o my_o difficulty_n to_o the_o question_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o the_o end_n that_o this_o authority_n be_v prove_v false_a the_o doctrine_n of_o rome_n which_o be_v ground_v upon_o it_o may_v be_v present_o destroy_v it_o be_v in_o the_o time_n when_o the_o dispute_n of_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o faith_n concern_v the_o eucharist_n make_v a_o great_a 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i_o abundance_n of_o light_n in_o the_o question_n of_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n i_o do_v consider_v the_o argument_n of_o perpetuity_n as_o a_o argument_n which_o be_v not_o metaphysical_a be_v to_o be_v reduce_v at_o last_o to_o a_o multitude_n of_o probability_n from_o which_o one_o can_v never_o conclude_v any_o thing_n with_o necessity_n though_o he_o will_v suppose_v as_o true_a with_o mr._n arnauld_n the_o principle_n whereupon_o it_o be_v ground_v to_o wit_n the_o belief_n of_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o point_n of_o transubstantiation_n of_o which_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v transubstantiation_n reality_n all_o the_o christian_a church_n say_v mr._n arnauld_n believe_v the_o real_a presence_n therefore_o it_o be_v the_o belief_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n for_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o so_o great_a importance_n it_o be_v impossible_a there_o shall_v have_v be_v make_v any_o alteration_n in_o doctrine_n this_o argument_n find_v i_o know_v not_o what_o repugnancy_n to_o be_v receive_v in_o my_o mind_n for_o though_o i_o suppose_v the_o first_o proposition_n to_o be_v true_a which_o since_o by_o the_o study_n of_o the_o history_n and_o relation_n of_o several_a country_n i_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v false_a yet_o i_o can_v not_o consent_v to_o the_o consequence_n because_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o be_v not_o true_a to_o my_o think_n and_o what_o endeavour_n soever_o of_o rhetoric_n mr._n arnauld_n use_v to_o expound_v and_o sustain_v his_o thought_n yet_o i_o do_v ever_o conceive_v that_o it_o be_v very_o likely_a some_o alteration_n have_v be_v make_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o eucharist_n as_o well_o as_o in_o other_o article_n in_o which_o every_o body_n acknowledge_v there_o have_v be_v on_o the_o contrary_a i_o find_v mr._n claude_n answer_n very_o reasonable_a this_o alteration_n have_v be_v make_v say_v he_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o impossible_a and_o his_o proof_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v believe_v the_o real_a presence_n with_o transubstantiation_n but_o they_o do_v not_o believe_v so_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n therefore_o there_o have_v be_v make_v a_o alteration_n and_o afterward_o he_o prove_v in_o his_o book_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o author_n who_o live_v in_o that_o time_n that_o true_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n they_o do_v not_o believe_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n this_o argument_n seem_v to_o i_o very_o natural_a sincere_a and_o true_a the_o proof_n of_o it_o easy_a and_o well_o ground_v but_o for_o that_o of_o mr._n arnauld_n it_o seem_v to_o i_o rough_a uneasy_a intricate_a the_o proof_n of_o it_o ground_v upon_o supposition_n in_o the_o air_n which_o can_v not_o be_v reduce_v at_o last_o but_o to_o some_o appearance_n of_o truth_n prove_v nothing_o necessary_o these_o reason_n incite_v i_o to_o judge_v in_o favour_n of_o mr._n claude_n against_o mr._n arnauld_n argument_n but_o though_o i_o be_v persuade_v his_o 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