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own_o author_n give_v we_o reason_n why_o the_o apostle_n and_o those_o of_o the_o first_o age_n do_v not_o teach_v as_o chap._n 21._o be_v note_v above_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o image-worship_n to_o the_o first_o christian_n yet_o must_v these_o pass_v for_o catholic_n doctrine_n universal_o believe_v and_o practise_v from_o the_o age_n of_o the_o apostle_n a_o cause_n this_o that_o need_v the_o great_a wit_n of_o that_o cardinal_n to_o make_v antiquity_n appear_v for_o it_o in_o so_o fair_a a_o show_n and_o then_o to_o persuade_v man_n so_o far_o out_o of_o their_o wit_n as_o to_o believe_v it_o do_v so_o indeed_o whereas_o these_o general_a hint_n that_o have_v be_v give_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o 30_o chap_n may_v suffice_v to_o let_v any_o man_n that_o have_v reason_n know_v it_o can_v be_v no_o good_a appearance_n which_o be_v make_v of_o antiquity_n but_o a_o cunning_a disguise_n and_o that_o the_o trent_n article_n can_v be_v no_o catholic_n or_o perpetual_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n but_o novel-point_n of_o romish_a persuasion_n creep_v at_o first_o some_o in_o one_o age_n some_o in_o another_o into_o opinion_n or_o practice_n and_o so_o by_o degree_n gather_v strength_n till_o they_o be_v assert_v by_o the_o most_o and_o chief_a in_o that_o communion_n and_o defend_v for_o the_o doctrine_n of_o that_o church_n and_o at_o length_n coin_v into_o article_n of_o i'faith_o as_o the_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o all_o age_n and_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n the_o end_n the_o content_n of_o the_o division_n of_o the_o english_a and_o romish_a church_n upon_o the_o reformation_n 1_o chap._n i._o we_o set_v not_o up_o a_o new_a church_n but_o be_v the_o same_o christian_a church_n before_o and_o after_o the_o reformation_n 4_o chap._n ii_o the_o demand_n of_o professor_n in_o all_o age_n we_o can_v show_v it_o better_o than_o they_o 9_o chap._n iii_o how_o they_o and_o we_o be_v say_v to_o differ_v in_o essential_o 12_o chap._n iu_o particular_a churckes_n may_v reform_v especial_o when_o a_o general_a council_n can_v be_v expect_v 15_o chap._n v._o we_o not_o guilty_a of_o schism_n the_o guilt_n of_o the_o breach_n lie_v on_o the_o romanist_n 20_o chap._n vi_o how_o necessity_n of_o divide_v communion_n arise_v 24_o chap._n vii_o sectary_n can_v make_v the_o plea_n that_o we_o do_v 28_o chap._n viii_o of_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n and_o judgement_n in_o private_a man_n 31_o chap._n ix_o of_o dissent_v from_o the_o public_a judgement_n 35_o chap._n x._o possibility_n of_o just_a dissent_v 39_o chap_n xi_o how_o far_o the_o romanist_n leave_v man_n the_o use_n of_o their_o reason_n and_o judgement_n 47_o chap._n xii_o of_o know_v the_o church_n by_o the_o mark_n of_o eminency_n perpetuity_n etc._n etc._n 51_o chap._n xiii_o our_o way_n open_v not_o a_o gap_n to_o sectary_n 57_o chap._n fourteen_o the_o romanist_n vain_a pretence_n of_o infallibility_n 63_o chap._n xv._o divide_v from_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v 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xxvii_o of_o a_o visible_a infallible_a judge_n or_o interpreter_n 125_o chap._n xxviii_o of_o certainty_n of_o belief_n and_o whether_o they_o or_o we_o have_v better_a mean_n for_o it_o 146_o chap._n xxix_o of_o the_o other_o rule_n of_o trial_n by_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n and_o the_o romanist_n vain_a boast_n of_o the_o father_n 157_o chap._n xxx_o application_n of_o the_o rule_n to_o their_o doctrine_n in_o several_a pâ—ints_n 161_o chap._n xxxi_o card_n perron_n two_o rule_n for_o know_v who_o and_o what_o be_v catholic_n according_a to_o antiquity_n 179_o the_o end_n of_o the_o table_n ¶_o a_o catalogue_n of_o some_o book_n print_v for_o richard_n royston_n at_o the_o angel_n in_o ivy-lane_n by_o h._n ferne_n d._n d._n episcopacy_n and_o presbytery_n consider_v in_o 4o._o a_o sermon_n preach_v at_o the_o isle_n of_o wight_n before_o his_o majesty_n in_o 4o._o now_o in_o the_o press_n a_o compendious_a discourse_n upon_o the_o case_n as_o it_o stand_v between_o the_o church_n 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