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A34974 Roman-Catholick doctrines no novelties, or, An answer to Dr. Pierce's court-sermon, miscall'd The primitive rule of Reformation by S.C. a Roman-Catholick. Cressy, Serenus, 1605-1674. 1663 (1663) Wing C6902; ESTC R1088 159,933 352

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protestant_n take_v a_o liberty_n of_o discern_v between_o fundamental_o and_o nonfundamentals_a and_o of_o dissent_v in_o nonfundamentals_a at_o least_o wherein_o they_o think_v the_o church_n catholic_n may_v be_v fallible_a though_o they_o have_v no_o rule_n by_o which_o to_o judge_n so_o be_v beside_o a_o certainty_n of_o dis-union_n expose_v to_o error_n even_o in_o fundamental_o 9_o the_o ground_n upon_o which_o those_o learned_a protestant_n conclude_v a_o fallibility_n even_o in_o the_o universal_a church_n as_o to_o doctrine_n not_o fundamental_a beside_o the_o manifest_a interest_n of_o their_o own_o church_n be_v because_o the_o end_n why_o christ_n make_v such_o promise_n of_o lead_v his_o church_n into_o all_o truth_n be_v lest_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v prevail_v against_o she_o which_o can_v be_v do_v only_o by_o heresy_n against_o fundamental_a doctrine_n and_o therefore_o god_n assistance_n for_o other_o point_v not_o fundamental_a be_v not_o to_o be_v presume_v on_o 10._o but_o though_o this_o position_n in_o
general_n be_v allow_v they_o that_o the_o church_n be_v fallible_a in_o unnecessary_n this_o will_v not_o excuse_v they_o for_o dissent_v from_o the_o church_n in_o any_o particular_a doctrine_n actual_o decide_v by_o a_o general_n council_n themselves_o acknowledge_v that_o all_o dissent_v even_o internal_a be_v unlawful_a without_o a_o certain_a demonstration_n that_o the_o church_n have_v actual_o err_v in_o such_o and_o such_o doctrine_n but_o which_o way_n possible_o can_v any_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n arrive_v to_o such_o a_o demonstration_n it_o must_v be_v by_o produce_v express_a scripture_n or_o universal_a tradition_n formal_o opposite_a and_o contradictory_n to_o what_o the_o universal_a church_n have_v declare_v who_o can_v think_v who_o dare_v believe_v that_o those_o supreme_a guide_n of_o all_o christian_n who_o be_v by_o our_o lord_n place_v in_o the_o church_n and_o grace_v with_o such_o promise_n who_o be_v the_o only_a guardian_n of_o the_o scripture_n itself_o and_o only_o unappealable_a judge_n of_o the_o sense_n of_o it_o shall_v conspire_v to_o propose_v doctrine_n formal_o and_o manifest_o contrary_a to_o express_v scripture_n or_o evident_a demonstration_n and_o as_o for_o universal_a tradition_n there_o can_v be_v no_o judge_n of_o it_o but_o the_o whole_a church_n particular_a person_n or_o church_n be_v utter_o uncapable_a of_o make_v such_o a_o judgement_n especial_o in_o opposition_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n 11._o it_o be_v happy_a therefore_o if_o protestant_n consider_v the_o promise_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o necessity_n of_o unity_n in_o the_o church_n will_v allow_v but_o as_o much_o submission_n to_o the_o supreme_a tribunal_n of_o his_o church_n as_o god_n oblige_v the_o jew_n to_o perform_v to_o their_o sanedrim_n to_o which_o no_o such_o promise_n be_v make_v for_o then_o though_o in_o thesi_fw-la they_o do_v affirm_v the_o church_n to_o be_v fallible_a yet_o they_o will_v acknowledge_v that_o not_o only_o all_o declaration_n of_o non-assenting_a be_v forbid_v but_o a_o internal_a assent_n be_v of_o necessary_a obligation_n to_o every_o one_o of_o her_o decision_n 12._o let_v they_o serious_o consider_v the_o passage_n of_o deuteronomy_n heretofore_o produce_v 17._o in_o which_o god_n command_v the_o jew_n under_o the_o penalty_n of_o death_n to_o obey_v whatsoever_o sentence_n shall_v be_v pronounce_v by_o the_o present_a judge_n of_o those_o day_n in_o any_o controversy_n touch_v the_o law_n this_o precept_n argue_v that_o the_o supreme_a council_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v infallible_a in_o fundamental_o and_o indeed_o god_n have_v promise_v that_o the_o sceptre_n shall_v not_o depart_v from_o judah_n 10._o nor_o a_o lawgiver_n from_o between_o his_o knee_n till_o shiloh_n that_o be_v the_o messiah_n come_v by_o virtue_n of_o which_o promise_v the_o jewish_a religion_n can_v not_o fail_v in_o fundamental_o and_o the_o effect_n of_o this_o promise_n be_v manifest_o perform_v for_o as_o to_o the_o outward_a pro●ession_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o moysaicall_a law_n it_o be_v always_o continue_v in_o so_o much_o as_o our_o saviour_n himself_o enjoin_v obedience_n to_o all_o the_o command_v of_o those_o who_o sit_v in_o moses_n his_o chair_n 23._o i_o say_v as_o to_o the_o outward_a practice_n of_o it_o for_o in_o the_o spiritual_a sense_n of_o it_o the_o jewish_a ecclesiastical_a magistrate_n be_v horrible_o pervert_v so_o far_o as_o to_o oppose_v and_o murder_v the_o messiah_n himself_o typify_v therein_o but_o now_o shiloh_n be_v already_o come_v and_o god_n promise_n of_o indefectibility_n rest_v in_o this_o new_a high_a priest_n and_o his_o successor_n 13._o notwithstanding_o all_o this_o yet_o error_n may_v creep_v in_o about_o nonfundamentals_a as_o the_o rabbin_n confess_v when_o they_o suppose_v a_o future_a sanedrim_n may_v annul_v the_o decision_n of_o a_o former_a council_n in_o which_o case_n the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o late_a must_v take_v place_n and_o without_o all_o tergiversation_n be_v obey_v so_o as_o though_o they_o be_v indeed_o in_o such_o thing_n fallible_a shall_v command_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o law_n the_o jew_n be_v under_o the_o utmost_a penalty_n oblige_v to_o obey_v they_o which_o obedience_n require_v a_o submission_n of_o judgement_n and_o internal_a assent_n to_o such_o command_n that_o they_o be_v agreeable_a to_o god_n law_n because_o it_o will_v be_v utter_o unlawful_a to_o obey_v any_o command_n of_o man_n which_o the_o subject_a believe_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o god_n law_n now_o the_o reasonableness_n of_o this_o command_n of_o god_n appear_v in_o this_o that_o it_o be_v a_o less_o evil_a and_o inconvenience_n that_o some_o legal_a precept_n of_o no_o great_a importance_n shall_v be_v transgress_v than_o that_o contention_n and_o dispute_n shall_v be_v endless_a 14._o from_o this_o pattern_n protestant_n may_v be_v instruct_v that_o though_o they_o shall_v allow_v a_o general_n council_n no_o more_o oblige_v authority_n than_o the_o jew_n do_v to_o their_o sanedrim_n which_o be_v infallible_a in_o fundamental_o but_o subject_a to_o error_n in_o nonfundamentals_a they_o can_v never_o have_v a_o warrant_n to_o dissent_n from_o any_o decision_n of_o such_o a_o council_n but_o aught_o to_o submit_v their_o internal_a judgement_n to_o they_o for_o since_o it_o be_v impossible_a they_o shall_v have_v any_o demonstrative_a proof_n that_o such_o council_n have_v de_fw-fr facto_fw-la err_v i_o mean_v in_o matter_n of_o doctrine_n all_o other_o inferior_a judgement_n all_o only_a probable_a argument_n against_o they_o aught_o to_o cease_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n render_v all_o contrary_a opinion_n altogether_o improbable_a so_o that_o though_o upon_o their_o supposition_n that_o the_o church_n in_o nonfundamentals_a be_v fallible_a she_o shall_v have_v err_v in_o such_o not-much-concerning_a decision_n and_o by_o consequence_n their_o assent_n will_v be_v erroneous_a yet_o that_o small_a incommodity_n will_v be_v abundant_o recompense_v with_o the_o most_o acceptable_a virtue_n of_o obedience_n humble_a submission_n of_o judgement_n love_v of_o peace_n and_o unity_n which_o accompany_v it_o beside_o that_o both_o truth_n and_o error_n in_o such_o thing_n lie_v only_o on_o the_o church_n and_o not_o at_o all_o on_o their_o account_n 15._o but_o since_o protestant_n find_v a_o extraordinary_a difficulty_n more_o than_o catholic_n to_o submit_v their_o judgement_n to_o authority_n and_o be_v apt_a to_o think_v all_o their_o opinion_n and_o persuasion_n to_o be_v certain_a knowledge_n let_v it_o be_v suppose_v that_o their_o first_o reformer_n not_o be_v able_a to_o persuade_v themselves_o to_o renounce_v their_o opinion_n shall_v thereupon_o have_v be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o church_n in_o this_o case_n they_o ought_v to_o have_v suffer_v such_o censure_n with_o patience_n and_o not_o voluntary_o forsake_v her_o communion_n and_o much_o less_o ought_v they_o to_o have_v set_v up_o or_o repair_v to_o a_o anti-communion_n for_o that_o be_v in_o the_o high_a degree_n a_o formal_a schism_n 16._o in_o all_o this_o discourse_n touch_v the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o unlawfulness_n of_o separation_n from_o it_o i_o do_v not_o mean_v a_o church_n of_o one_o denomination_n no_o not_o the_o roman_a as_o such_o for_o so_o we_o ascribe_v not_o infallibility_n to_o she_o but_o i_o intend_v the_o universal_a church_n which_o we_o call_v roman_n catholic_n because_o all_o true_a orthodox_n church_n a_o union_n of_o which_o constitute_v the_o universal_a church_n acknowledge_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v the_o root_n of_o their_o unity_n therefore_o protestant_n in_o vain_a seek_v to_o excuse_v their_o separation_n upon_o pretence_n it_o be_v only_o from_o the_o roman_a not_o from_o the_o universal_a church_n because_o 1._o a_o separation_n from_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o any_o one_o true_a member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n for_o doctrine_n which_o be_v common_o hold_v by_o other_o church_n in_o communion_n with_o that_o member_n be_v indeed_o a_o separation_n from_o all_o church_n which_o be_v manifest_o the_o case_n of_o the_o english_a separation_n 2._o because_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o pretend_a reform_a church_n real_o separate_v themselves_o a_o toto_fw-la mundo_fw-la a_o thing_n which_o calvin_n confess_v in_o a_o epistle_n of_o he_o to_o melancthon_n in_o these_o word_n nec_fw-la non_fw-la parvi_fw-la refert_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o it_o do_v not_o a_o little_a concern_v we_o that_o not_o the_o least_o suspicion_n of_o any_o discord_n rise_v among_o we_o descend_v to_o posterity_n for_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n more_o than_o absurd_a after_o we_o have_v be_v constrain_v to_o make_v a_o discession_n from_o the_o whole_a world_n if_o we_o in_o our_o very_a beginning_n shall_v also_o divide_v from_o one_o another_o and_o which_o chillingworth_n also_o confess_v in_o several_a place_n cap._n 5._o sect_n 55._o as_o for_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o
visible_a church_n say_v he_o we_o have_v without_o scruple_n former_o grant_v that_o protestant_n do_v forsake_v it_o that_o be_v renounce_v the_o practice_n of_o same_o observance_n in_o which_o the_o whole_a visible_a church_n before_o they_o do_v communicate_v and_o sect_n 56._o what_o do_v you_o conclude_v say_v he_o from_o ●ence_n but_o that_o see_v there_o be_v no_o visible_a church_n but_o corrupt_v where_o note_v that_o he_o must_v affirm_v not_o only_a corruption_n in_o manner_n but_o also_o in_o doctrine_n and_o law_n for_o from_o several_a of_o these_o he_o will_v not_o deny_v luther_n to_o have_v make_v a_o discession_n luther_n forsake_v the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o corrupt_a church_n can_v not_o but_o forsake_v the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n well_o let_v this_o be_v grant_v what_o will_v come_v of_o it_o that_o luther_n must_v be_v a_o schismatic_a by_o no_o mean_n i_o say_v it_o be_v evident_a as_o these_o confess_v that_o the_o pretend_a reform_a church_n real_o separate_v themselves_o from_o the_o whole_a world_n that_o be_v from_o that_o holy_a catholic_n church_n which_o we_o believe_v be_v to_o continue_v so_o in_o every_o age_n since_o not_o one_o church_n upon_o earth_n antecedent_n to_o their_o separation_n can_v be_v find_v out_o with_o which_o they_o be_v join_v in_o external_a communion_n not_o one_o which_o have_v law_n or_o governor_n in_o common_a with_o they_o not_o one_o that_o will_v join_v with_o they_o or_o with_o which_o they_o will_v join_v in_o public_a office_n liturgy_n sacrifice_n and_o synod_n the_o english_a church_n do_v not_o pretend_v a_o communion_n with_o church_n manifest_o heretical_a as_o the_o armenian_a coptite_n abissine_n nestorian_a jacobite_n georgian_a church_n etc._n etc._n and_o for_o the_o grecian_a the_o reformer_n at_o their_o first_o separation_n be_v actual_o divide_v from_o she_o and_o sure_o they_o will_v not_o say_v that_o by_o separation_n from_o the_o roman_a they_o become_v ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la in_o communion_n with_o the_o grecian_a or_o if_o they_o will_v say_v so_o the_o grecian_a will_v protest_v against_o they_o as_o we_o see_v their_o patriarch_n hieremias_n do_v etc._n etc._n 17._o and_o that_o be_v but_o a_o very_a ineffectual_a salve_n bramhall_n which_o a_o late_a learned_a protestant_a writer_n in_o his_o discourse_n of_o schism_n insist_o upon_o when_o see_v clear_o the_o english_a church_n can_v not_o pretend_v a_o communion_n with_o any_o other_o ancient_a church_n in_o the_o world_n he_o therefore_o claim_v privilege_n of_o the_o english_a church_n equal_a to_o those_o ancient_a one_o of_o cyprus_n which_o be_v a_o church_n independent_a of_o all_o other_o and_o exempt_v from_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o eastern_a patriarch_n of_o antioch_n for_o though_o this_o pretention_n can_v be_v make_v good_a which_o be_v impossible_a yet_o this_o will_v not_o serve_v their_o turn_n consider_v the_o english_a church_n ever_o since_o her_o conversion_n acknowledge_v herself_o a_o member_n of_o the_o western_a patriarchate_n but_o though_o she_o have_v indeed_o such_o a_o privilege_n and_o never_o renounce_v it_o who_o will_v say_v the_o cyprian_a church_n because_o exempt_v from_o certain_a act_n of_o patriarckical_a jurisdiction_n as_o ordination_n visitation_n etc._n etc._n can_v therefore_o independent_o of_o all_o the_o world_n frame_n or_o change_v article_n of_o faith_n or_o be_v excuse_v from_o subscribe_v to_o the_o decision_n of_o council_n though_o only_o patriarckical_a chap._n xxii_o the_o limitation_n of_o the_o church_n authority_n make_v by_o archbishop_n lawd_n etc._n etc._n examine_v objection_n against_o the_o proceed_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n answer_v manifest_a illegality_n in_o q._n eliz._n reformation_n secular_a and_o carnal_a end_n in_o it_o 1._o have_v show_v the_o indispensible_a obligation_n of_o even_o a_o internal_a assent_n that_o roman_a catholic_n acknowledge_v due_a to_o the_o decision_n of_o general_a council_n as_o be_v infallible_a and_o which_o protestant_n aught_o also_o to_o perform_v though_o they_o acknowledge_v such_o a_o infallibility_n to_o extend_v only_o to_o doctrine_n fundamental_a since_o the_o church_n herself_o have_v not_o declare_v which_o of_o her_o decision_n be_v fundamental_a and_o which_o not_o for_o she_o have_v affix_v anathemas_n to_o many_o which_o in_o themselves_o be_v not_o fundamental_a and_o have_v say_v only_o si_fw-la quis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la not_o si_fw-la quis_fw-la non_fw-la crediderit_fw-la concern_v doctrine_n which_o be_v unquestionable_o fundamental_a and_o necessary_a we_o will_v now_o examine_v the_o forementioned_a limitation_n or_o case_n in_o which_o it_o be_v say_v particular_a person_n or_o church_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v dispense_v with_o for_o yield_v a_o assent_n to_o decision_n of_o general_a council_n touch_v matter_n not_o fundamental_a or_o even_o for_o not_o 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