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rule_n to_o translate_v according_a to_o the_o usual_a signification_n and_o not_o the_o original_a derivation_n of_o word_n as_o beza_n and_o master_n 209._o whitaker_n do_v and_o if_o they_o translate_v contrary_a to_o this_o rule_n what_o be_v it_o but_o wilful_a corruption_n so_o they_o do_v in_o translate_n idolum_fw-la a_o image_n presbyter_n a_o elder_a and_o the_o like_a see_v chap._n 4._o &_o chap._n 6._o numb_a 6._o 7._o 8._o etc._n etc._n numb_a 13._o etc._n etc._n fulke_v 9_o neither_o beza_n nor_o master_n whitaker_n make_v it_o a_o perpetual_a rule_n to_o translate_v according_a to_o the_o usual_a signification_n for_o sometime_o a_o word_n be_v not_o take_v in_o the_o usual_a signification_n as_o foenerator_n use_v by_o your_o vulgar_a latin_a interpreter_n luke_n 7._o usuallye_o signify_v a_o usurer_n yet_o do_v you_o translate_v it_o a_o creditor_n likewise_o stabulum_n use_v luke_n 10._o usual_o signify_v a_o stable_a yet_o you_o translate_v it_o a_o inn_n so_o navis_fw-la which_v usual_o signify_v a_o ship_n you_o call_v it_o a_o boate._n mark_n 8._o and_o navicula_fw-la which_o usuallye_o signify_v a_o boat_n you_o call_v a_o ship_n luke_n 5._o and_o yet_o i_o think_v you_o mean_v no_o wilful_a corruption_n no_o more_o sure_o do_v they_o which_o translate_v idolum_fw-la a_o image_n and_o presbyter_n a_o elder_a which_o you_o can_v not_o deny_v but_o they_o follow_v the_o original_a derivation_n of_o the_o word_n whereas_o some_o of_o you_o both_o go_v from_o the_o usual_a signification_n and_o also_o from_o the_o original_a derivation_n martin_n 10._o if_o presbyter_n by_o ecclesiastical_a use_n be_v appropriate_v to_o signify_v a_o priest_n no_o less_o than_o episcopus_fw-la to_o signify_v a_o bishop_n or_o diaconus_fw-la a_o deacon_n and_o if_o they_o translate_v these_o two_o late_a according_o and_o the_o first_o never_n in_o all_o the_o new_a testament_n what_o can_v it_o be_v but_o wilful_a corruption_n in_o favour_n of_o this_o 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wine_n whereas_o nothing_o seem_v to_o have_v great_a resemblance_n than_o that_o which_o deceive_v many_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n but_o yet_o be_v not_o observe_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n mart._n 43._o but_o i_o will_v ask_v rather_o why_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 28._o may_v not_o in_o any_o case_n be_v translate_v full_a of_o grace_n whereas_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v translate_v full_a of_o sore_n both_o word_n be_v of_o like_a 20_o form_n and_o force_n see_v chap._n 18._o numb_a 4._o 5._o fulk_n 43._o the_o former_a word_n be_v a_o participle_n be_v best_a translate_v by_o a_o participle_n free_o belove_v for_o the_o other_o if_o we_o have_v a_o participle_n in_o english_a to_o say_v sored_a or_o botch_v we_o will_v use_v it_o but_o for_o lack_v of_o a_o participle_n we_o be_v constrain_v to_o use_v the_o noun_n full_a of_o sore_n i_o may_v likewise_o ask_v you_o whether_o you_o will_v translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d full_a of_o gold_n or_o gild_a 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the_o assurance_n of_o faith_n and_o the_o assurance_n of_o faith_n upon_o the_o certain_a persuasion_n of_o knowledge_n and_o understanding_n yea_o your_o vulgar_a interpreter_n translate_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rom._n 4._o v._n 21._o plenissimè_fw-la sciens_fw-la know_v most_o full_o may_v teach_v you_o that_o it_o signify_v more_o than_o fullness_n for_o else_o he_o shall_v have_v say_v be_v fulfil_v and_o better_a do_v beza_n express_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 2._o tim._n 4._o than_o some_o of_o our_o english_a interpreter_n which_o say_v fulfil_v thy_o ministry_n whereas_o the_o apostle_n meaning_n be_v that_o he_o shall_v approve_v the_o credit_n and_o dignity_n of_o his_o ministry_n unto_o other_o man_n but_o the_o greek_a father_n you_o say_v find_v none_o other_o interpretation_n of_o it_o and_o for_o proof_n you_o cite_v ignatius_n ep_v ad_fw-la smyr_n which_o although_o it_o be_v not_o authentical_a yet_o i_o see_v no_o cause_n why_o we_o may_v not_o interpret_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v certain_o persuade_v in_o faith_n &_o love_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o assurance_n of_o faith_n and_o so_o be_v it_o translate_v in_o bibliotheca_fw-la sacra_fw-la margarini_fw-la de_fw-fr la_fw-fr bigne_n plenè_fw-la instructae_fw-la in_o fide_fw-la &_o charitate_fw-la &_o cognovi_fw-la vos_fw-la absolutè_fw-la perfectos_fw-la in_o fool_n stabili_fw-la full_o instruct_v in_o faith_n and_o charity_n and_o i_o have_v know_v you_o absolute_o perfect_a in_o a_o stedfaste_a faith_n chrysostome_n and_o theodoret_n because_o you_o vouch_v at_o large_a i_o know_v not_o what_o you_o will_v show_v out_o of_o they_o in_o theophylact_n i_o find_v that_o he_o speak_v against_o all_o hesitation_n &_o doubtfulness_n of_o faith_n but_o against_o the_o certain_a persuasion_n thereof_o never_o a_o word_n ne_fw-fr aliquam_fw-la inducas_fw-la in_o animum_fw-la tuum_fw-la haesitationem_fw-la neque_fw-la pendeas_fw-la animi_fw-la 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yourself_o confess_v as_o much_o where_o you_o say_v the_o greek_a father_n expound_v it_o of_o the_o full_a assure_a faith_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v enough_o to_o justify_v our_o translation_n now_o if_o the_o father_n understand_v this_o full_a assure_a faith_n only_o of_o a_o historical_a faith_n as_o you_o say_v &_o not_o of_o trust_n and_o confidence_n in_o god_n it_o be_v a_o other_o controversy_n our_o translation_n be_v not_o false_a although_o we_o have_v a_o false_a meaning_n if_o it_o be_v answerable_a to_o the_o word_n neither_o do_v chrysostome_n speak_v of_o a_o historical_a faith_n only_o by_o certainty_n whereof_o we_o have_v access_n unto_o god_n but_o also_o of_o confidence_n which_o remission_n of_o our_o sin_n do_v cause_n and_o that_o we_o be_v make_v coheire_n with_o christ_n &_o that_o we_o enjoy_v so_o great_a love_n neither_o do_v he_o prove_v that_o the_o protestant_n only_a faith_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o justify_v but_o the_o apostle_n show_v say_v 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