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or_o unwritten_a tradition_n by_o divers_a authority_n both_o ancient_n and_o modern_a p._n 133._o austin_n austin_n austin_n say_v that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v not_o to_o be_v believe_v unless_o it_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n etc._n etc._n bellarmin_n bellarmin_n bellarmin_n tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n not_o write_v because_o say_v he_o it_o be_v not_o write_v in_o any_o apostolical_a b_o ok_n though_o in_o the_o book_n of_o almost_o all_o the_o ancient_n etc._n etc._n doctor_n field_n field_n dr._n field_n that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v therefore_o call_v a_o tradition_n because_o it_o be_v not_o deliver_v in_o the_o scripture_n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v baptise_v infant_n or_o that_o they_o spould_v do_v so_o convocation_n at_o oxford_n that_o without_o the_o consentaneous_a judgement_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o universal_a church_n they_o shall_v be_v at_o a_o loss_n when_o they_o be_v call_v upon_o for_o proof_n in_o the_o point_n of_o 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261._o etc._n etc._n but_o notorious_o do_v deny_v original_a sin_n as_o pag._n 265._o and_o therefore_o do_v doctor_n owin_n in_o his_o display_v of_o arianism_n ch_n 12._o say_v nor_n do_v origen_n pelaginise_v a_o little_a only_a but_o be_v suppose_v first_o to_o have_v bring_v pelaginisme_n into_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o do_v vossius_fw-la in_o his_o history_n of_o pelaginisme_n l._n 4._o th._n 6._o pag._n 153._o so_o much_o question_n whether_o those_o passage_n in_o his_o work_n mention_v infant_n baptism_n can_v be_v his_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o pelaginisme_n by_o all_o which_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o the_o judicious_a reader_n will_v conclude_v there_o be_v a_o good_a ground_n to_o judge_v this_o testimony_n of_o origen_n upon_o all_o these_o account_n to_o be_v as_o invallid_a and_o insignificant_a as_o the_o former_a and_o that_o as_o yet_o we_o have_v not_o the_o least_o evidence_n to_o prove_v this_o our_o unwriten_v tradition_n to_o be_v apostolical_a 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will_n say_v they_o do_v so_o agree_v with_o they_o in_o the_o point_n of_o tradition_n as_o hold_v it_o more_o sound_o than_o the_o papist_n viz._n cyprian_n austin_n and_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_n hold_v chrism_n exorcism_n infant_n righâ—_n to_o the_o supper_n etc._n etc._n to_o be_v apostolical_a tradition_n and_o to_o be_v make_v good_a from_o scripture_n proof_n and_o analogy_n and_o seem_v to_o be_v as_o large_a herein_o as_o the_o papist_n have_v since_o be_v for_o instance_n austiâ—_n austin_n austin_n in_o his_o 118._o epist_n ad_fw-la johan_n say_v illa_fw-la quae_fw-la nâ—â—_n scripta_fw-la tradita_fw-la custodimus_fw-la dantur_fw-la vel_fw-la apostolis_n vel_fw-la plenariis_fw-la consiliis_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o unwritten_a tradition_n which_o we_o keep_v be_v give_v by_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o or_o general_a counsel_n etc._n etc._n and_o among_o other_o thing_n with_o infant_n baptism_n he_o mention_v the_o solemnity_n of_o good_a friday_n easter-day_n holy_a 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not_o find_v thaâ—_n the_o engage_v papist_n cite_v by_o i_o do_v set_v tradition_n above_o scripture_n but_o that_o they_o make_v it_o equal_a witâ—_n it_o i_o grant_v etc._n etc._n therefore_o since_o by_o substantial_a argument_n tradition_n appear_v to_o be_v the_o principal_a ground_n and_o with_o so_o much_o confidence_n assert_v both_o by_o papist_n and_o protestant_n to_o be_v make_v good_a from_o the_o writing_n of_o all_o the_o ancient_n as_o say_v calvin_n and_o bellarmine_n more_o modest_o by_o the_o writing_n of_o almost_o all_o the_o ancient_n let_v we_o therefore_o in_o the_o next_o place_n particular_o examine_v the_o respective_a authority_n from_o antiquity_n avouch_v for_o the_o same_o for_o if_o they_o fail_v the_o whole_a fabric_n tumble_v down_o here_o also_o the_o antiquity_n urge_v by_o mr._n will_n to_o prove_v infant_n baptism_n a_o apostolical_a tradition_n disprove_v section_n 3_o there_o be_v five_o authority_n traditional_a 5._o authority_n to_o prove_v infant_n baptism_n traditional_a that_o have_v be_v usual_o bring_v to_o prove_v