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A61870 A censure upon certaine passages contained in the history of the Royal Society as being destructive to the established religion and Church of England Stubbe, Henry, 1632-1676. 1670 (1670) Wing S6033; ESTC R32736 43,471 70

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pronunciat Hoc quidem res ipsa manifestissimè ostendit sive privata quaedam Ecclesia eò loci intelligitur appellatione Babylonis sive universae pars major eam priùs fuisse legitimam Ecclesiam cum qua pii piè communicarent postea verò quàm longiùs processit ejus depravatio jubentur pii exire communionem abrum pere ut facile fit vobis intelligere non omnem communionem cum iis qui de nomine Christi appellantur fidelibus esse expetendam sed illam demum quae sit salvâ doctrinae coelitus revelatae integritate Out of which words and they seem to be the words not of Casaubon or K. Iames but the Church of England if I am able to deduce any consequence I am sure this is one that it is not at any time lawful to hold with any Church a communion with her ènown defaults and impieties and that how desireable soever Unity be yet the regard thereto ought never to transport us so far as to mix the service of God with that of Belial that some circumstances do legitimate an holy war and that a bad agreement is not to be chosen before a contest and separation in the behalf of real Godlinesse I am sure I am by the tenor of that Letter justified if I dare not joyn with a Church service wherein Transubstantiation and the sacrifice of the Masse and prayers for the dead and to the Saints not to mention the mutilation of the Communion and Image-worships must be owned or hypocritically complyed with to the dishonour of God 1 Cor. 10.20 21 22. the detriment and offense of the weak Christians 1 Cor. 8.10 11 12. and the strengthning of the party communicated with in those errors and Blasphemies How far further I am warranted by that Letter and the practice of the primitive fathers to rescind a Communion not otherwise erroneous or faulty upon the account of errors Idolatry or conceived Blasphemy in the practice or speculative tenets of a Church or person what private men what a particular Bishop or national Church may do I shall not entermeddle with as having alledged enough in opposition to what our Virtuoso layes down I should proceed now to enquire whether that we may hold communion with the Bishops of Rome supposing that they challenge a Sovereign dominion over our faith But since there was no such thing pressed upon the English Church to occasion the first rupture the generality of Christendome being then and at the first calling of the Council of Trent inclined to the contrary tenet of the Pope's being inferiour to a Council General denying his Sovereignty and Dominion over the faith of the Church and his personal Infallibility being an opinion scarcely to be mentioned or insisted on much lesse authenticated in those dayes and since that now neither the one or other tenet can justly be charged upon that Church nor is a condition of their Communion at present since the Controversie would be large and intrigued with distinctions I leave the debating thereof as inutile and content my self with having sufficiently refuted our Virtuoso already in what hath been alledged though seemingly to another purpose Undoubtedly there is no conniving or complying with such a person for one that is to avoid the appearance of evill It is a dethroning of Christ whom God hath appointed to be the head of the Church and by him all the body furnished and knit together by joints and bands increaseth with the increasing of God It is the introducing of another Corner-stone and another foundation the creating of another fabrick then what is built upon Christ and the Apostles and Prophets at least it is a compliance with all such unchristian Monstrosities a silence that is equivalent to an Assent in such high cases I have learn'd it from Dr. Raynolds Seeing that to exercise this rule and dominion is a prerogative Royal and proper to the King of Kings to give it either in whole or in part cannot be a lesser offense than High Treason Fifthly that the Church of Rome according to its present establishment and under that constitution wherein the first Reformers found it may be denominated a Church Ancient and Famous and that upon these accounts for none other are mentioned possibly there doth belong a respect unto it or an obligation to communicate therewith The first part of the Proposition is false and notoriously contradicts the doctrine of the Thirty-nine Articles and Homilies of the Church of England For although it be granted that even those Articles the Homilies and our Writers and I my self do bestow vulgarly the appellation of a Church yet is that an impropriety of speech and not to be justified otherwise then by professing that when the name of Church is attributed to Rome and England the predication is equivocal since that the definition of a true Christian Church which makes up the Ninteenth Article cannot be accommodated to the Romanists viz The visible Church of Christ is a Congregation of faithful men in the which the pure word of God is preached and the Sacraments be duely ministred according to Christ's ordinance in all those things that of necessity are requisite to the same This Definition is asserted and enlarged upon in the second Homily for Whitsunday in these words The true Church is an universal congregation or fellowship of God's faithful and elect people built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Jesus Christ being the head-corner stone And it hath alwaies three notes or marks by which it is known Pure and sound doctrine The Sacraments ministred according to Christ's holy institution and the right use of Ecclesiastical Discipline This description of the Church is agreeable both to the Scriptures of God and also to the doctrine of the Ancient Fathers so that none may justly find fault with it Now if you will compare this with the Church of Rome not as it was in the beginning but as it is presently and hath been for the space of Nine hundred years and odde you shall well perceive the state thereof to be so far wide from the nature of the true Church that Nothing can be more For neither are they built upon the foundation of the Apostles retaining the sound and pure Doctrine of Jesus Christ neither yet do they order the Sacraments or else the Ecclesiastical Keyes in such sort as he did first institute and ordain them but have so intermingled their own Traditions and inventions by chopping and changing by adding and plucking away that now they may seem converted in a new guise Christ commanded to his Church a Sacrament of his Body and Bloud they have changed it into a Sacrifice for the quick and the dead Christ did minister to his Apostles and the Apostles to other men indifferently under both kinds they have robbed the Lay-people of the Cup saying that for them one kind is sufficient Christ ordained no other Element to
be used in Baptisme but onely water whereunto when the word is joyned it is made as S. Augustine saith a full and perfect Sacrament They being wiser in their own conceit than Christ think it not well nor orderly done unlesse they use Conjuration unlesse they hallow the water unlesse there be Oyl Salt Spittle Tapers and such other dumb Ceremonies serving to no use contrary to the plain rule of St. Paul who willeth all things to be done in the Church to Edification Christ ordained the Authority of the Keyes to excommunicate notorious Sinners and to absolve them which are truly penitent They abuse this power at pleasure as well in cursing the Godly with Bell Book and Candle as also absolving the Reprobate which are known to be unworthy of any Christian Society whereof they that lust to see Examples le them search their Lifes To be short look what our Saviour Christ pronounced of the Scribes and Pharisees in the Gospel the same may be boldly and with a safe conscience pronounced of the Bishops of Rome namely they have forsaken and daily do forsake the Commandements of God to erect and set up their own Constitutions Which thing being true as all they which have any light of God's word must needs confess we may well conclude according to the Rule of St. Augustine That the BISHOPS OF ROME AND THEIR ADHERENTS ARE NOT THE TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST much lesse to be taken as chief Heads and Rulers of the same Whosoever saith he do dissent from the Scriptures concerning the Head although they be found in all places where the Church hath appointed yet are they not in the Church A plain place concluding directly against the Church of Rome These Homilies are of such Authority with us that the Clergy must subscribe unto them That they are a part of the Liturgy the Rubrique in the Common Prayer and the Preface to them shews and the Preface saith they were set forth for the expelling of erroneous and poysonous Doctrines More fully t is said in the Orders of K. Iames Ann. Dom. 1622. the Homilies are set forth by Authority in the Church of England not onely for the help of non-preaching but withall as it were a pattern for preaching Ministers Neither is Bishop Iewel in his Apology for the English Church any more favourable to the Pope and his Adherents Nam nos quidem discessimus ab illâ Ecclesiâ in qua nec verbum Dei purè audiri potuit nec Sacramenta administrari nec Dei nomen ut oportuit invocari quam ipsi fatentur multis in rebus esse vitiosam in qua nihil erat quod quenquam posset prudentem hominem de sua salute cogitantem retinere Postremò ab Ecclesia eâ discessimus quae nunc est non quae olim fuit atque ita discessimus ut Daniel è cavea Leonum ut tres illi pueri ex incendio nec tam discessimus quàm ab istis diris devotionibus ejecti sumus And in the conclusion that pious Bishop thus delivers himself again Diximus nos ab illâ Ecclesiâ quam isti speluncam latronum fecerant in qua nihil integrum aut Ecclesiae simile reliquerant quámque ipsi fatebantur multis in rebus erravisse ut Lothum olim è Sodoma aut Abrahamum è Chaldaeâ non contentionis studio sed Dei ipsius admonitu discessisle ex sacris libris quos scimus non posse fallere certam quandam Religionis formam quaesivisse ad veterum Patrum atque Apostolorum primitivam Ecclesiam hoc est ad primordia atque initia tanquam ad fontes rediisse I might prosecute this point with an infinity of Citations out of such Divines as were eminent Writers and Actors in the beginning and throughout the Reign of Qu. Elizabeth when the Church of England even in the judgment of Dr. Heylyn received her establishment and when her Sentiments were best known but I shall content my self with Dr. Whitaker alone Romanam Ecclesiam Catholicam quae nunc est quaeque recentioribus hisce temporibus floruit eam nos non solam Ecclesiam Catholicam sed ne omnino quidem Catholicam esse dicimus nec tantùm non Catholicam id est Vniversalem sed nè veram quidem Ecclesiam Christi particularem esse contendimus Quare deserendam esse dicimus ab omninibus qui servati volunt tanquam Antichristi Satanae Synagogam Nullam in ea salutem sperandam esse imò damnandam illam dicimus tanquam barathrum haereseos erroris Si quando ex animo de Ecclesia illa loquamur eam semper Romanam Papisticam Antichristianam Apostaticam Ecclesiam vocamus Other Elogies then these no true son of the Church of England did afford unto the Romish Church at first and they who afterwards began to speak more mildly of her in which number were Bishop Hall and Dr. Potter they allowed her the name of a Church but with those termini minuentes the additiō whereof renders all simple predications to be false those restrictions of a Schismatical Heretical idolatrous and superstitious Church They compar'd her to a man mortally wounded nothing can be argued from their Writings to condemn the Protestant separation of Schisme they make her so a Church as to interdict all communion and all peace with Her And if it be thus difficult to procure from any man that regulates his judgment according to the established doctrine of our Church any manner of grant that the Romanists are a Church I am sure it is impossible to extort from any such person a confession that the Church of Rome in that condition wherein our Reformers found it and wherein it still continues is either Antient or Famous The Homily aforerecited allowes it no greater antiquity than of about one thousand years and t is an avowed Truth that whatever is not primitive and Apostolick is an innovation The transactions betwixt the Emperour Phocas and the first of the Universal Bishops are too recent and too infamous to give unto the present Romanists any repute It hath alwaies been the profession of the Church of England and of all Protestants that they deserted the Church of Rome because she was apostatised from what was truely ancient and the Church of England is really what the Papists pretend to be this Iewell declares in his Apology more than once Nostra doctrina quam rectiùs possumus Christi Catholicam doctrinam appellare nova nemini videri potest nisi sicui aut Prophetarum fides aut Evangelium aut Christus ipse videatur novus The passage I mention'd formerly shews that we reformed our selves from their errours and impieties to conforme with the genuine Antiquity The Homily against peril of Idolatry allowes scarce of any Antiquity but within the first three hundred years Others extend a fair respect as far as the dayes of the Emperour Marcianus in whose time the
all faith so that I could remove Mountains and have no charirity I am nothing Certainly no prayers were ever more suitable to the mind of God than those which the first Christians poured out when it was true to say Yee see your calling Brethren how that not many wise men after the flesh not many noble are called But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise 1 Cor. 1.26 27. It was not intended of the Virtuosi Except ye become like one of these ye shall not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven It may not be perhaps amisse to insert here the Article of our Church concerning works before Iustification this new way of rendring our praises I do not perceive that our Experimentator is ever likely to say any prayers more acceptable to God being not mentioned in the Doctrine of the Church of England Works done before the grace of Christ and the inspiration of his Spirit are not pleasant to God for as much as they spring not of faith in Jesus Christ neither do they make men meet to receive grace or as the School-Authors say deserve a grace of congruity yea rather for that they are not done as God hath willed and commanded them to be done we doubt not but they have the nature of sin Thus for ought I can find by our Church and the Scripture though our Experimental Philosopher study the Creation never so much and never so well and so that is from those contemplations form his Hymnes and Panegyriques He will not come to be more acceptable to God than another who with humility and reverence studies well the Scripture and seeks to be accepted in and through the merits of Christ Iesus who of God is made unto us wisdom and righteousnesse and sanctification and redemption 1 Cor. 1.30 Who thinks that though the Heavens declare the handiworks of God and that rains and fruitful seasons may witnesse for him yet that the Divine nature will be still incomprehensible all humane language and thoughts beneath his Majesty that the word of God is that whither Christ sends us to search that God best speaks concerning himself that a Psalm of David the Te Deum or Magnificat in a blind and ignorant but devout Christian will be better accepted than a Cartesian Anthymne In the latter part t is something more than is revealed in Scripture to say that the first service Adam perform'd to his Creator consisted in naming for it is contrary to the text that Adam mustered them together The Lord God formed every beast of the field and every fowl of the ayr and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them Gen. 2.19 and looking into the nature of all creatures T is very probable that there passed some other acts of worshipping and glorifying his Creator before upon his first original and when he received that positive commandement relating to the forbidden fruit nay t is unimaginable that it should be otherwise The subsequent clause if it relate onely to the study of the nature of all creatures as it seems to do is an assertion such as never fell from any Divine No man ever taught that Adam's fall which was a breach of his religious duty towards God was a deficiency from the study of Experimental Philosophie or that he was not ejected paradise for the breach of a positive command but for not minding the cultivation of the Garden and natural curiosities I never heard that this was that sin for which death passed upon all men nor this the transgression wherein Eve was the first I would willingly have constrained my self so as to carry on the relation of these words beyond those immediately preceding them but I find it too far a fetch It is true our Author doth acknowledg elsewhere that there are principles of natural Religion which consists in the acknowledgment and worship of a Deity and also that the study of Nature will teach an Experimentator to worship that wisdom by which all things are so easily sustained But these passages are too remote from this place to have any influence upon the text and the words that follow next argue for me herein viz. This was the first service that Adam perform'd to his Creator when he obey'd him in mustering and naming and looking into the nature of all creatures This had been the onely Religion if men had continued innocent in paradise and had not wanted a Redemption Of this the Scripture makes so much use that if any devout man shall reject all Natural Philosophie he may blot Genesis and Job and the Psalms and some other books out of the Canon of the Bible From whence it seems manifest that our Virtuoso so represents the matter as if Natural and Experimental Philosophie not Natural Theology had been the Religion of Paradise nor doth he mention any thing of the obligation Adam had to fulfill the Moral Law or obey the positive occasional precepts or to believe the incident Revelations with which his Creator might acquaint him Histor. R. S. pag. 355. Religion ought not to be the subject of Disputations it should not stand in need of any devises of reason It should in this be like the temporal Laws of all Countreys towards the obeying of which there is no need of Syllogismes or Distinctions nothing else is necessary but a bare promulgation a common apprehension and sense enough to understand the Grammatical meaning of ordinary words Nor ought Philosophers to regret this divorce seeing they have almost destroyed themselves by keeping Christianity so long under their guard by fetching Religion out of the Church and carrying it captive into the Schools they have made it suffer banishment from its proper place and they have withall very much corrupted the substance of their own knowledg They have done as the Philistins by seising of the Ark who by the same action deprived the people of God of their Religion and also brought a plague amongst themselves THis Paragraph is a congeries of grosse untruths tending to the dishonour of God and the destruction of the Protestant Religion as introducing of a Popish implicit faith or something which is in effect the same but attended with more ridiculous circumstances For our Historian would oblige us to receive our Religion upon trust or bare promulgation but neither tels us what promulgation is nor what opinion we are to have of the Promulgator I have met with disputes amongst Polemical Divines about the proposal of things to be believed when that is sufficiently done and so as to oblige the party concern'd unto assent and belief but Promulgation bare promulgation is a new term and such as never was heard of in the Divinity-Schools It is a Law-terme and very dubious sometimes Acts are legally promulgated when passed in Parlament and recorded there Sometimes they are also printed sent to the Sheriffs and posted up in the Market-places Sometimes they are read in the
do grant it Hart. They grant that the Pope may be an Heretick perhaps by a supposal as many things may be which never were nor are nor shall be For you cannot prove that any Pope ever was an Heretick actually though possibly they may be whereof I will not strive This point of the fallibility of the Pope and his subjection to a Council is so notorious with every man that is acquainted with the more ancient and modern Writers so known to any one that hath either read the determinations of Bishop Davenant qu. 5. or the defense of the Dissuasive of Bishop Taylour pag. 40. or the Review of the Council of Trent written by a French Catholick from whom the Disswader borrowed his allegations or that hath so much as read over the History of the Council of Trent that I need not insist on it any longer Notwithstanding the earnestnesse of the Iesuits under Laynez in the Council of Trent yet neither was the Pope's superiority over a Council nor the Infallibility of the Bishops of Rome defined there directly as appears out of the Review of that Council lib. 4. c. 1. and out of the English History pag. 721 722. Neither is there to this day amongst the Papists any thing enacted or determined in that Church which obligeth a man under pain of Excommunication to hold any such thing as the personal Infallibility of the Bishops of Rome the contrary being daily maintained there by more than the Iansenists much lesse is there any Sovereignty in matters of Faith ascribed unto them at this day All books of the Papists are subjected to the judgment of the Church not to the Arbitrement of the Pope The fides Carbonaria or Colliers faith so famed amongst the Papists was not established upon the infallibility or sovereignty of the Bishops of Rome no he told the Devil that He believed as the Church believed and the Church as He. And how necessary soever they make the communion with the particular Church of Rome how great influence soever they ascribe to the Pope over Councils yet the Decrees of the Council of Trent run in the name of the Holy Synod not Pope and there it is determined sess 4. that none dare interpret Holy Scripturs against the sense which our Holy Mother the Church hath held or does hold If you enquire in-the doctrines of M r White D r Holden Serenus Cressy and such others as endeavour at present and that with great shew of wit and artifices to seduce the English to that Apostaticall Church there is not one of them that I knowe of who attributes any infallibility to the Pope or submitteth his faith to the Sovereigne decisions of the Bishop of Rome As for Serenus Cressy he very judiciously deserts the School-terme of Infallibility for that of the Churches Authority and saith that the exceptions and advantages which the Protestants have against the Roman Church proceed only from their mis-understanding of her necessary doctrines or at most that all the efficacy they have is onely against particular opinions inferences made by particular Catholique writers He shews that D r Stapleton asserts that the infallible voyce and determination of the Church is included in the decree of the Church speaking in a Generall Council representatively In which the Church is infallible with this restriction viz in delivering the substance of faith in publique doctrines and things necessary to salvation Other Catholiques and namely Panormitan teach that the decrees of Generall Council are not absolutely and necessarily to be acknowledged infallible till they be received by all particular Catholique Churches because till then they cannot properly be called the faith of the universall Church or of the body of all faithfull Christians to which body the promise of infallibility is made And this was the Doctrine of Thomas Waldensis and some other Scholmen c. An opinion this is which though not commonly received yet I do not saith S. C. find it deeply censured by any yea the Gallican Churches reckoned this among their chiefest priviledges and liberties that they were not obliged to the decisions of a Generall Council till the whole body of the Gallican Clergy had by a speciall agreement consented to them and so proposed them to the severall Churches there And to this last opinion doth S. C. incline and his book was approved at Paris as consonant to the Catholique faith He guides himselfe by the Authority of received Councils he acknowledges that to be onely necessarily accounted an Article of Catholique faith which is actually acknowledged and received by Catholiques and since contradictions cannot be actually assented unto it will follow that whatsoever decisions of Councils may seem to oppose such articles are not necessarily to be accounted Catholique doctrines and by consequence not obligatory He denies that Generall Councils can make new articles of faith they are witnesses of what hath been delivered not Sovereigns to determine of new truths either by way of addition to the former or in opposition thereunto Their Infallibility is limited to Tradition and spiritually assisted in the faithfull reporting of what hath been delivered what ever reports or decrees they make of another nature they are to be received with a different assent from what is Catholique faith There is a double obligation from decisions of Generall Councils the first an obligation of Christian beliefe in respect of doctrines delivered by Generall Councils as of universall Tradition the second onely of Canonicall obedience to orders and constitutions for practice by which men are not bound to believe those are inforced as from Divine authority but onely to submit unto them as acts of a lawfull Ecclesiasticall power however not to censure them as unjust much lesse to oppose and contradict them Much more doth the same Author adde which give little countenance to that state of the controversie which our Author forms unto us No Soveraigne dominion over our faith is by him ascribed to the Bishop of Rome or Nationall or Generall Coun●ills and as to Infailibility which Mr Chillingworth had impugned he thus acquits himselfe I may in generall say of all his Objections that since they proceed only against the word Infallibility and that word extended to the utmost heighth and latitude that it possibly can beare Catholiques as such are not at all concerned in them seeing neither is that expression to be found in any received Council nor did ever the Church enlarge her authority to so vast a widenesse as Mr Chillingworth either conceived or at least for his particular advantage against his adversary thought good to make show as if he conceived so As to the subject wherein Infallibility or Authority is to be placed since Catholiques vary as to that point he sayes 't is evident thereby that they are not obliged to any one part of the Question only they are to agree in this Tridentine decision Ecclesiae est judicare de vero sensu Sacrae