Selected quad for the lemma: doctrine_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
doctrine_n	article_n	church_n	creed_n	2,425	5	10.1630	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A70690	Observations on the four letters of Dr. John Wallis concerning the Trinity and the Creed of Athanasius	Nye, Stephen, 1648?-1719.	1691 (1691)	Wing N1508A; ESTC R41199	24,893	22

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