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of_o eternal_a generation_n &_o pag._n 18._o ante_fw-la med_n that_o christ_n be_v god_n by_o be_v of_o god_n light_a by_o issue_v out_o of_o light_n and_o more_o plain_o yet_o ibid._n pag._n 121._o also_o mr._n fox_n apoc._n pag._n 474._o initio_fw-la say_v christus_fw-la deus_fw-la ex_fw-la deo_fw-la and_o lobecius_n in_o disput_fw-la 30._o theolog_fw-la pag._n 49._o say_v filius_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la id_fw-la quo_fw-la filius_fw-la dicitur_fw-la habet_fw-la à_fw-la patre_fw-la verum_fw-la etiam_fw-la svam_fw-la essentiam_fw-la solus_fw-la enim_fw-la pater_fw-la vitam_fw-la seu_fw-la essentiam_fw-la habet_fw-la à_fw-la seipso_fw-la and_o d._n dove_n in_o his_o confutation_n of_o atheism_n pag._n 37._o fine_a say_v god_n the_o father_n from_o everlasting_a understanding_n himself_o beget_v his_o son_n coeternal_a with_o himself_o etc._n etc._n and_o the_o confession_n of_o belgia_n in_o the_o harmony_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 34._o initio_fw-la say_v we_o believe_v that_o christ_n 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substance_n distinct_a from_o the_o father_n in_o act._n serveti_n pag._n 872._o and_o passim_fw-la hereof_o see_v also_o cnoglerus_fw-la in_o his_o tria_fw-la symbola_fw-la pag._n 34._o and_o he_o calvin_n also_o say_v that_o according_a to_o his_o divinity_n he_o make_v intercession_n to_o god_n the_o father_n in_o ep._n ad_fw-la polones_n and_o see_v also_o his_o word_n in_o respon_n ad_fw-la polonos_n extant_a in_o tract_n theolog._n etc._n etc._n pag._n 791._o b._n fine_a and_o that_o the_o name_n of_o god_n be_v proper_o attribute_v to_o the_o father_n by_o way_n of_o excellency_n in_o tract_n theolog._n etc._n etc._n in_o explicat_fw-la perfid_v gentilis_fw-la pag._n
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he_o strange_o mention_n our_o doctrine_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n immunity_n from_o actual_a sin_n and_o our_o doctrine_n and_o worship_n of_o her_o immaculate_a conception_n answer_n it_o be_v a_o sign_n you_o want_v better_a matter_n while_o you_o object_v these_o point_n your_o conscience_n can_v but_o tell_v you_o that_o you_o know_v we_o be_v so_o far_o from_o make_v the_o immaculate_a conception_n a_o point_n of_o faith_n that_o there_o be_v a_o severe_a prohibition_n that_o neither_o part_n censure_v the_o other_o of_o heresy_n error_n or_o the_o like_a so_o that_o this_o instance_n be_v manifest_o impertinent_a the_o reader_n may_v be_v please_v to_o read_v bellarmine_n tom_n 4._o the_o amissione_n gratiae_n &_o statu_fw-la peccati_fw-la lib._n 4._o cap._n 15._o where_o he_o say_v quod_fw-la ad_fw-la primum_fw-la scilicet_fw-la non_fw-la haberi_fw-la apud_fw-la catholicos_fw-la pro_fw-la re_fw-la certa_fw-la &_o explorata_fw-la ac_fw-la fide_fw-la catholica_fw-la tenenda_fw-la beatam_fw-la virginem_fw-la sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la fuisse_fw-la conceptam_fw-la joannes_n pomeranus_n unus_fw-la ex_fw-la primis_fw-la lutheri_fw-la discipulis_fw-la in_o comment_n cap._n 1._o &_o 44._o hierem._n scribere_fw-la ausus_fw-la est_fw-la pro_fw-la articulo_fw-la fidei_fw-la apud_fw-la catholicos_fw-la haberi_fw-la b._n virginem_fw-la sine_fw-la ullo_fw-la peccato_fw-la immo_fw-la etiam_fw-la de_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-it fuisse_fw-la conceptam_fw-la sed_fw-la hoc_fw-la impudentissimum_fw-la mendacium_fw-la satis_fw-la apertè_fw-la refellunt_fw-la dvae_fw-la pontificum_fw-la constitutiones_fw-la &_o concilii_fw-la aecumenici_fw-la decretum_fw-la quibus_fw-la constitutionibus_fw-la ac_fw-la decretis_fw-la catholici_fw-la omnes_fw-la libenter_fw-la obediunt_fw-la sixtus_n iu._n pontifex_fw-la max._n in_o ea_fw-la constitutione_n quae_fw-la incipit_fw-la grauè_fw-la nimis_fw-la de_fw-la reliquiis_fw-la &_o veneratione_n sanctorum_fw-la desirtis_fw-la verbis_fw-la pronuntiat_fw-la nondum_fw-la esse_fw-la quaestionem_fw-la istam_fw-la de_fw-fr conceptione_n b._n virgin_n ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la romana_fw-la &_o apostolica_fw-la sede_fw-la definitam_fw-la &_o ideò_fw-la paenam_fw-la excommunicationis_fw-la statuit_fw-la in_o eos_fw-la qui_fw-la alterutram_fw-la sententiam_fw-la ut_fw-la haereticam_fw-la damnare_fw-la audent_fw-la judicium_fw-la sixti_fw-la pontificis_fw-la secutum_fw-la est_fw-la concilium_fw-la tridentinum_n ses_fw-fr 5._o ac_fw-la demum_fw-la nostro_fw-la tempore_fw-la pius_fw-la v._o in_o constitutione_n quam_fw-la edidit_fw-la de_fw-la conceptione_n beatissimae_fw-la virgin_n mariae_fw-la beside_o protestant_n themselves_o acknowledge_v this_o point_n to_o be_v a_o thing_n indifferent_a excusable_a and_o not_o define_v as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o the_o five_o consideration_n num_fw-la 4._o at_o †_o next_o after_o f._n in_o the_o margin_n at_o five_o and_o as_o brereley_o tract_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 14._o in_o the_o margin_n at_o †_o next_o after_o f._n at_o five_o &_o tract_n 2._o c._n 3._o sect_n 5._o subd_v 2._o at_o f._n in_o the_o margin_n prove_v say_v touch_v our_o b._n lady_n be_v preserve_v from_o original_a sin_n and_o the_o worship_v of_o image_n mr._n bunny_n in_o his_o treatise_n tend_v to_o pacification_n sect_n 17._o pag._n 104._o paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la med_a &_o pag._n 105._o say_v if_o any_o think_v it_o more_o honour_n able_a for_o the_o bless_a virgin_n yea_o for_n christ_n himself_o that_o take_v flesh_n of_o she_o to_o have_v be_v without_o sin_n and_o thereupon_o for_o his_o part_n do_v rather_o think_v that_o by_o special_a prerogative_n she_o also_o be_v preserve_v from_o original_a corruption_n etc._n etc._n in_o these_o or_o such_o like_a whosoever_o will_v condemn_v all_o those_o that_o be_v not_o persuade_v as_o we_o be_v commit_v a_o uncharitable_a part_n towards_o those_o his_o brethren_n and_o d._n field_n ibid._n apud_fw-la brereley_o pag._n 499._o in_o the_o 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appear_v most_o plain_o 1._o by_o their_o own_o most_o evident_a testimony_n 2._o by_o their_o like_a confess_v example_n thereof_o give_v and_o 3._o by_o their_o undoubted_a answerable_a practice_n to_o give_v proof_n of_o every_o of_o these_o part_n 1._o and_o first_o concern_v their_o testimony_n in_o this_o kind_n m._n d._n baro_n say_v fine_a say_v m._n d._n baro_n in_o his_o four_o sermon_n and_o two_o question_n dispute_v ad_fw-la clerum_fw-la etc._n etc._n serm._n 3._o pag._n 448._o fine_a i_o dare_v not_o deny_v the_o name_n of_o christian_n to_o the_o romanist_n since_o the_o learnede_a writer_n do_v acknowledge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o m._n hooker_n also_o say_v etc._n say_v m._n hooker_n in_o his_o fist_n book_n of_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n pag._n 188._o initio_fw-la and_o joannes_n regius_n in_o his_o libe●_n apologeticus_n etc._n etc._n in_o considerate_a censurae_fw-la etc._n etc._n pag._n 95._o say_v in_o papatu_fw-la autem_fw-la cùm_fw-la suerit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la vera_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v to_o be_v repute_v a_o part_n of_o the_o house_n of_o god_n a_o limb_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o med_n and_o m._n hooker_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 130._o ante_fw-la med_n we_o glad_o acknowledge_v they_o to_o be_v of_o the_o family_n of_o jesus_n christ_n m._n bunny_n likewise_o say_v of_o catholic_n and_o protestant_n med_n protestant_n m._n bunny_n in_o his_o treatise_n tend_v to_o pacification_n sect_n 18._o pag._n 109._o circa_fw-la med_n neither_o of_o we_o may_v just_o account_v the_o other_o to_o be_v none_o of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n med_n god_n m._n bunny_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 113._o post_n med_n we_o be_v no_o several_a church_n from_o they_o nor_o they_o from_o we_o in_o like_a sort_n do_v m._n d._n some_o in_o defence_n thereof_o against_o penry_n the_o puritan_n say_v med_n say_v m._n d._n some_o in_o his_o defence_n against_o m._n penry_n and_o refutation_n of_o many_o absurdity_n etc._n etc._n in_o m._n penry_n be_v treatise_n pag._n 164._o ante_fw-la med_n that_o the_o papist_n be_v not_o altogether_o alien_n from_o god_n covenant_n i_o have_v show_v before_o for_o i●icio_fw-la for_o m._n d._n some_o ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 182._o i●icio_fw-la in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o learned_a man_n and_o all_o reform_a church_n there_o be_v in_o popery_n a_o church_n a_o ministry_n a_o true_a christ_n etc._n etc._n finem_fw-la etc._n m._n d._n some_o ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 176._o propè_fw-la finem_fw-la if_o you_o think_v that_o all_o the_o popish_a sort_n which_o die_v in_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v damn_v you_o think_v absurd_o and_o dissent_v from_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o learned_a protestant_n also_o m._n d._n field_n say_v initio_fw-la say_v m._n d._n field_n of_o the_o church_n l._n 3._o cap._n 46._o fine_a &_o pag._n 182._o initio_fw-la we_o doubt_v not_o but_o the_o church_n in_o which_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n with_o more_o than_o luciferlike_a pride_n exalt_v himself_o be_v notwithstanding_o the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n that_o it_o hold_v a_o save_a profession_n of_o the_o truth_n in_o christ_n and_o by_o force_n thereof_o do_v convert_v many_o from_o error_n etc._n etc._n in_o like_a sort_n do_v m._n thomas_n morton_n affirm_v in_o express_a word_n that_o fine_a that_o m._n morton_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o israel_n and_o of_o the_o church_n pag._n 94._o fine_a papist_n be_v to_o be_v account_v the_o church_n of_o god_n because_o say_v he_o they_o do_v hold_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o be_v faith_n in_o christ_n jesus_n the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o saviour_n of_o the_o world_n last_o to_o omit_v many_o finem_fw-la many_o peter_n martyr_n as_o it_o appear_v by_o his_o epistle_n annex_v to_o his_o common_a place_n in_o english_a pag._n 153._o a_o fine_a desire_v at_o the_o conference_n have_v at_o poisy_n 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