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A49577	Six conferences concerning the Eucharist wherein is shewed, that the doctrine of transubstantiation overthrows the proofs of Christian religion.	La Placette, Jean, 1629-1718.; Tenison, Thomas, 1636-1715.	1687 (1687)	Wing L430; ESTC R5182	76,714	124

SIX CONFERRENCES Concerning The Eucharist Novemb. 5. 1678. MR. A. Pulton Jesuit having in his Remarks published Novemb. 4. declared in efféct in P. 29 30. that the Principles of Philosophy which contradict the Doctrine of Transubstantiation are to be renounc'd and that Christians have the same ground to believe Transubstantiation as the Blessed Trinity and demanding How great the Confusion of Dr. T. will be at the Day of Judgment when he shall find that Te●● true The sid Dr. Tenison the Publisher of THIS BOOK does so far as concerns these Particulars refer Mr. Pulton to IT and for the rest of his Remarks he will in due time give a very just Answer to them Books lately printed for Richard Chiswell A Dissertation concerning the Government of the Ancient Church more particularly of the Encroachments of the Bishops of Rome upon other Sus. By WILLIAM CAVE D. D. Octavo An Answer to Mr. Serjeant's Sure Footing in Christianity concerning the Rule of Faith With some other Discourses By WILLIAM FALKNER D. D. 40. A Vindication of the Ordinations of the Church of England in Answer to a Paper written by one of the Church of Rome to prove the Nullity of our Orders By GILBERT BVRNET D. D. Octavo An Abridgment of the History of the Reformation of the Church of England By GILB BVRNET D. D. Octavo The APOLOGY of the Church of England and an Epistle to one Signior Scipio a Venetian Gentleman concerning the Council of Trent Written both in Latin by the Right Reverend Father in God JOHN JEWEL Lord Bishop of Salisbury Made English by a Person of Quality To which is added The Life of the said Bishop Collected and written by the same Hand Octavo The Life of WILLIAM BEDEL D. D. Bishop of Kilmore in Ireland Together with Certain Letters which passed betwixt him and James Waddesworth a late Pensioner of the Holy Inquisition of Sevil in Matter of Religion concerning the General Motives to the Roman Obedience Octavo The Decree made at ROME the Second of March 1679. condemning some Opinions of the Jesuits and other Casuists Quarto A Discourse concerning the Necessity of Reformation with respect to the Errors and Corruptions of the Church of Rome Quarto First and Second Parts A Discourse concerning the Celebration of Divine Service in an Unknown Tongue Quarto A Papist nor Misrepresented by Protestants Being a Reply to the Reflections upon the Answer to A Papist Misrepresented and Represented Quarto An Exposition of the Doctrine of the Church of England in the several Articles proposed by the late BISHOP of CONDOM in his Exposition of the Doctrine of the Catholick Church Quarto A Defence of the Exposition of the Doctrine of the Church of England against the Exceptions of Monsieur de M●a●● late Bishop of Condon and his Vindicator 40. A CATECHISM explaining the Doctrine and Practices of the Church of Rome With an Answer thereunto By a Protestant of the Church of England 80. A Papist Represented and not Misrepresented being an Answer to the First Second Fifth and Sixth Sheets of the Second Part of the Papist Misrepresented and Represented and for a further Vindication of the GATEGHISM truly representing the Doctrines and Practices of the Church of Rome Quarto The Lay-Christian's Obligation to read the Holy Scriptures Quarto The Plain Man's Reply to the Catholick Missionaries 240. An Answer to THREE PAPERS lately printed concerning the Authority of the Catholick Church in Matters of Faith and the Reformation of the Church of England Quarto A Vindication of the Answer to THREE PAPERS concerning the Unity and Authority of the Catholick Church and the Reformation of the Church of England Quarto THE Pillar and Ground of Truth A Treatise shewing that the Roman Church falsly claims to be That Church and the Pillar of That Truth mentioned by S. Paul in his first Epistle to Timothy Chap. 3. Vers 15. 4o. The Peoples Right to read the Holy Scripture Asserted 4o. A Short Summary of the principal Controversies between the Church of England and the Church of Rome being a Vindication of several Protestant Doctrines in Answer to a Late Pamphlet Intituled Protestancy destitute of Scripture Proofs 4o. Two Discourses Of Purgatory and Prayers for the Dead An Answer to a Lato Pamphlet Intituled The Judgment and Doctrine of the Clergy of the Church of England concerning one Special Branch of the King's Prerogative viz. In dispensing with the Penal Laws 4o. The Notes of the Church as laid down by Cardinal Bellarmin examined and confuted 4o. Preparation for Death Being a Letter sent to a young Gentlewoman in France in a dangerous Distemper of which she died The Difference between the Church of England and the Church of Rome in opposition to a late Book Intituled An Agreement between the Church of England and Church of Rome A PRIVATE FRATER to be used in Difficult Times A True Account of a Conference held about Religion at London Sept. 29 1687 between A. Pulton Jesuit and Tho. Tennison D. D. as also of that which led to it and followed after it 4o. The Vindication of A. Cressener Schoolmaster in Long-Acre from the Aspersions of A. Pulton Jesuit Schoolmaster in the Savoy together with some Account of his Discourse with Mr. Meredith A Discourse shewing that Protestants are on the safer Side notwithstanding the uncharitable Judgment of their Adversaries and that Their Religion is the surest Way to Heaven 4o. Six Conferences concerning the Eucharist wherein is shewed that the Doctrine of Transubstantiation overthrows the Proofs of Christian Religion A Discourse concerning the pretended Sacrament of Extreme Vnction with an account of the Occasions and Beginnings of it in the Western Church In Three Parts With a Letter to the Vindicator of the Bishop of Condom SIX CONFERENCES CONCERNING The Eucharist Wherein is shewed That the Doctrine of Transubstantiation overthrows the Proofs of Christian Religion Imprimatur Septemb. 12. 1687. Jo. BATTELY LONDON Printed for Richard Chiswell at the Rose and Crown in St. Paul's Church-yard MDCLXXXVII The CONTENTS Of the Six Conferences concerning the EUCHARIST CONFERENCE I. THe First Proof That Transubstantiation absolutely destroys the certainty of our Senses which is the Foundation of the strongest Proofs of Christianity CONF. II. The Second Proof That Transubstantiation discrediting the Testimony of our Senses does absolutely overthrow the principal Reasons which confirm the Truth of Christian Religion CONF. III. Wherein are confirmed the two Proofs contained in the two preceding Discourses CONF. IV. The Third Proof That Transubstantiation establishes Scepticism in its full perfection and especially destroys the certainty of Demonstration CONF. V. Wherein is finally shew'd That Transubstantiation establishes Scepticism and absolutely destroys the certainty of First Principles CONF. VI. Wherein the Proofs contained in the foregoing Discourses are defended and the impossibility of using them against the Doctrine fo the Trinity is demonstrated SIX CONFERENCES Concerning the EUCHARIST CONFERENCE I. That Transubstantiation absolutely destroys the certainty of

true nor yet whatever is opposed against them is false but that all the Objections brought against them include some Proposition which is not evident and which consequently may be deni'd Is not this to say our Reason cannot prove demonstratively the falsity of our Mysteries Does not this absolutely overthrow your Objection You will have the Arians and Socinians Objections to pass for a convincing Demonstration Yet your Divines affirm it 's impossible to make Demonstrations against the Truths of Faith. You say 't is impossible to answer any thing to this But your Divines affirm to you That this Objection and the rest like it do necessarily include something which may be deni'd and is not evident They pass further They say one may demonstrate this very thing Which is to say one may demonstrate That it is not possible to offer Demonstrations against us Which is what we may easily justifie by another consideration Which is to the end an Argument may pass for Demonstrative every term about it must be perfectly understood whereby there may arise a clear and distinct Idea in the mind of what it expresseth And therefore Geometricians use such clear terms in their Demonstrations that it is impossible but they must be understood or if any one offers it self clouded with the least obscurity they immediately carefully explain it And therefore they make no Demonstration but what is preceded by a great number of Definitions which explain the terms But how can this be in a Mystery so little known as that of the Trinity For who can pretend to have distinct Idea's either of the Divine Essence and its Unity or of the Persons which possess it and of their distinction When we are askt says St. Augustin * Aug. de Trin. lib. 5. cap. 9. what the three are the mind of man finds it self extream shallow and cannot express it self Yet it is said there are Three Persons not as if we cou'd define'em but we rather say so that we may not say nothing And in another place * Idem lib. 7. cap. 4. When 't is demanded of us what the Three are we set our selves on seeking some general or particular term because the excellency of Divine things is beyond the strength of our expressions For there 's more truth in what we think than in what we say of God and more in reality than in thought I say the same thing of other terms used on this great Subject They raise in our minds only confused and muddy Ideas How then will these afford us Demonstrations What do you answer then directly to my Objection says Mr. N. What do you your self answer reply'd I. For in fine considering what I have said you see our interest is the same In effect it must be said we have no rational Argument to offer against the Arians or Socinians This last refuge seems to me intollerable and I shou'd as soon say they have the Reason on their side and we are possess'd with absurd prejudices We must then say these peoples Objections may be solidly answer'd and do you think Sir none of your Divines not to speak now of ours have not done it Were this the case this truth must have been very unfortunate to have met with no Defender for so many ages able to repel the attacks of its adversaries Moreover I do not see how you can extol so much as you commonly do the learning wisdom yea and Infallibility of your Church seeing it seems she has nothing but blind Answers and vain Tergiversations to refute these Erroneous persons Objections For my part I am of a very different opinion and believe your Schoolmen have solidly answer'd this Objection First you know That several of 'em have deni'd this Philosophical Maxim which implies That two Subjects cannot be distinguisht from one another when they are not so by a third You know there are several considerable instances offer'd as is that of length largeness and depth which are very different from one another altho they all differ not from extension Whereunto we may add that of the Modusses which are not distinct from the things they modify altho distinguish'd from one another As for instance when I shut my hand I give it a quite different manner of being from that it has when open and stretched out Of necessity these two manners of being must be different from one another seeing it 's not only easie to separate them and to make 'em subsist one without another but it 's impossible to make 'em subsist together being opposite and inconsistent Yet 't is commonly held That the Modusses be not really distinguishable from the things they modifie I say the same thing of the actions of the Soul there are some of 'em inconsistent For example to judg a proposition is true and to judg that it 's false To will and not to will the same Object To love and hate the same person The same soul does this at several times And consequently does very different acts Yet these acts tho different from one another do not really differ from the substance of the soul but are only mere modifications of it One may then deny your Maxim or restrain it and bring exceptions against it You know your Divines have made several and shew'd That either of 'em secures the Mystery before us I suppose you do not expect I shou'd recite them seeing you may find 'em in Father Vincent's Logick in George Rhodes Theology and in several other of your Authors Were there not any thing in all this which satisfy'd me I shou'd not be much perplex'd about it I shou'd content my self with what I now told you That all the Objections which can be made against the Mystery of the Trinity consist of several improper and obscure terms and such as are incapable of causing distinct Idea's of what is pretended to be signifi'd by ' em To shew then That this Doctrine does not include Contradictions as you wou'd insinuate by the Objection I examin consider the main or bottom of this great Mystery what makes for and against it we shou'd conceive in a just and precise manner what 's therein inconsistent and see clearly these inconsistencies and oppositions But we being far from such a knowledg of this great Truth it 's then clear no one can shew it includes any thing contradictory But it 's not the same with Transubstantiation What you say of that includes a great number of palpable and manifest Contradictions and shocks directly all the notices of Sense and Reason So that you cannot make too much hast to retrench it from the body of Christian Religion and remove it out of a place which it so ill supplies A body wou'd think answer'd he to hear you speak That we might form Christian Religion to our minds and as soon as a Doctrine is not to our fancy we may put it our of our Creed This without doubt wou'd be very agreeable But Sir in excluding Transubstantiation from the number of the Articles of Faith will you thereby blot it out of Holy Writ wherein the Divine Spirit has inserted it in such clear and full terms You know Heaven Earth shall sooner pass away than the least iota of this holy Word Never fear repli'd I my blotting it out It never was there And this I wou'd now make apparent to you did I not fear we have walkt and talk'd so long that both your legs and ears are tired FINIS