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A34212	A missive to His Majesty of Great Britain, King James written divers yeers since by Doctor Carier ; conteining [sic] the motives of his conversion to Catholike religion ; vvith a notable fore-sight of the present distempers both in the church and state of His Majesties dominions, and his advice for the prevention thereof.	Carier, Benjamin, 1566-1614.; Strange, N., 17th cent.; James I, King of England, 1566-1625.	1649 (1649)	Wing C572; ESTC R8830	50,068	94

thing to think upon such exhortations and all one as if a phantasticall fellow finding a herd of young Cattell in a close should first break downe the hedges and then cry loud to the Cattell not to venture to go out nor to seek any fatter pasture for fear they be put into the pound and if they chance to feed where they are because they have no experience of other and to tarry in the Close for an houre or two then the unhappy fellow should run to the owner of the Cattell and tell him what great service he had done him and how he had kept his Cattell in the Close by his goodly charmes and exhortations Let them say what they list of their own honesty and of their exhortations to obedience as long as they do freely infect the peoples soules with such false opinions in Religion they do certainly sow the seeds of disobedience and Rebellion in mens understandings which if they be not prevented by your Majesties giving way to Catholike Religion will in all likelihood spring up in the K. Charles feels the sad effects of this predictiō next generation to the great prejudice and molestation of your Majesty and your posterity So that whether I doe respect heaven or earth my own soule or the service of your Majesty God or your Neighbours or your Subjects my assured hope is that by joyning my selfe to the Catholike Church I neither have done nor ever shall do any ill duty or service unto your Majesty 18. But perhaps there is such opposition both in matter of Doctrine and in matter of State as it is unpossible that ever there should be any reconcilation at all betwixt the Church of England and the Church of Rome of which I humbly pray your Majesty to give me leave to shew you what I have observed 19. It is true the breach hath continued now these many yeares and it is much increased by so long continuance so that it was never greater then it seems to be at this day nor ever more dangerous to deal withall For if a man do but go about to stop it there ariseth presently a great and fearfull noise and roaring of the waters against him but yet neverthelesse the greatnesse of the noise ought not to discourage us but rather to give us hope that although it be wide yet it is but shallow and not far from the bottome as proceeding from affection which is sudden and violent and not from judgement which is quiet constant and alwaies like it self for if a man ask in cold blood whether a Romane Catholike may be saved the most learned Church-man will not deny it And if a man aske whether a Romane Catholike may be a good Subject the most wise States-man will easily grant it May we be both saved then we are not divided in God May we be both good Subjects then we are not divided in the King What reason is there then that we should be thus hotly and unplacably divided 20. Truly there is no reason at all but only the violence of affection which being in a course cannot without some force be staied The multitude doth seldome or never judge according to truth but according to customes and therefore having of purpose been bred and brought up in the hatred of Spaniards and Papists cannot chuse but think they are bound to hate them still and that whosoever speaks a word in favour of the Church of Rome or of Catholike Religion is their utter enemy And the Puritannicall Preacher who can have no being in charity doth never cease by falsifications and slanders to blow the coales that he may burn them and warm himselfe But if your Majesty shall ever bee pleased to command those make bates to hold their peace a while and to say nothing but what they are able to prove by sufficient authority before those who are able to judge and in the mean time to admit a conference of learned and moderate men on either side the people who are now abused and with the light of the Gospell held in extreme ignorance are not yet so uncapable but they will be glad to heare of the truth when it shall be simply and evidently delivered by honest men and then they will plainly see that their Light of the Gospell which they so much talk of is but a counterfeit light in a Theeves lantern whereby honest mens eyes are dazzled and their Purses robbed And it will also appear that there is not indeed any such irreconcileable opposition betwixt the Church of England and the Church of Rome as they that live by the Schisme do make the world believe there is neither in matter of Doctrine nor matter of State 21. For matter of Doctrine there is no reason that your Majesty or the Kingdome should be molested or burdened for the maintenance of Calvinisme which is as much * Indeed a true Protestant and a Papist are now almost equally odious against the Religion of England as it is against the Religion of Rome and will by necessary consequence overthrow not only the Catholike Church the Communion of Saints and the forgivenesse of sinnes but also all the Articles of the Creed saving only so much as the Turk himselfe will be content to believe which will be easie to prove upon better leisure The Doctrine of England is that which is contained in the Common Prayer Book and Church Catechisme confirmed by Act of Parliament and by your Majesties Edict wherein all English men are Baptized and ought to be confirmed and therefore there is some reason that this should be stood upon But this Doctrine in most of the main points thereof as hath been touched before and requireth a just treatise to set down in particular doth much differ from the current opinions and Catechismes of Calvinisme or doth very neer agree with or at least not contradict the Church of Rome if we list with patience to hear one another And those points of Doctrine wherein we are made to be at warrs with the Church of Rome whether we will or not do rather argue the Corruptions of that state from whence they come then are argued by the grounds of that Religion whereupon they stand and the contradiction of Doctrine hath followed the altera●ion of State and not the alteration of State been grounded upon any truth of Doctrine 22. For when the breach was resolved upon for the personall and particular ease of King Henry the eight and the Children of his later Wives it was necessary to give every part of the Common-wealth contentment for which they might hold out in the heat of affection and study to maintain the breach otherwise it was likely that in the clearnesse of Judgement it would quickly have grown together again and then the Authors thereof must have been excluded and given account of their practise 23. Therefore to the Lords and * In like manner the Members of Parliament and their Adherents have

of their two Sacraments They had decencies in their Burialls They had severall practises outwardly religious and in brief they had so many Reliques of the old Christianity of their Countrey as did manifestly distinguish them from Jews Turks and other more prophane people All which as they were plausible stayes to with-hold men in the Protestant Religion and not to thinke on any other especially if they were born and bred in Protestancy so made they any mans conversion to Catholike Religion in those daies more remarkable more wondered at and more subject to the question what moved him to forsake the Protestant Withall D. Cariers favour with his Prince together with his great learning and good parts making him capable of the chiefest spirituall dignities and promotions in the Kingdome might well move many to take notice of his conversion and wonder he should change both his present possessions pregnant hopes of more for the poor contemptible being of an exiled Papist perhaps scanted in necessaries to live and breath But now to use the Prophet Jeremies words in his Threnes c. 4. v. 1. cap. 2. v. 2. though in a different sense Obscuratum est aurum mutatus est color optimus dispersi sunt lapides Sanctuarii in capite omnium platearum what seemed gold among the Protestants is now altogether darkned and cast off as drosse the most specious of their fair colours is faded an argument it was of no long lasting complexion the seeming corner stones of their seeming Sanctuary are dispersed in the head of all the streets The sworne supreme head of their Church though gray aged and well deserved of them is made his vassalls subject their ward their captive scarce allowed to keep his own head on his shoulders and whilst it is on is little lesse then basely foot-balled by the miscreants of his owne Subjects Their Bishops once the corner-stones of the English Sanctuary or Reformation are even levelled to the flock by their owne Disciplinated sheep yea I may say facti sunt opprobrium vicinis subsannatio illusio his qui in circuitu sunt they are truly become a reproach to their neighbours a scorne and mock to all about them The Reformation now thought best for England can subsist they say as well without Bishops as their neighbour Churches Their old Ordination of Ministers and as old as it is onely invented in King Edward the sixths daies is already laid to the wall this present Parliament hath found a newer way to supply the Bishops Office there is no pretence to Mission derived by any order from the Apostles all claime an equall right to the Pulpit Tinkers Weavers Taylors Fidlers Souldiers nor do any faile of novell-hunting auditors some of the old Protestant Preachers silenced by the Parliament others fallen to silence of themselves as not knowing what to preach to day for fear they be driven to contradict it in the next Sermon or to fight for their Pulpit others preach according to the times though against their owne consciences to save their livings And good God! what non-sense ignorances seditious rebellious Doctrines yea Blasphemies do the Tubs and Pulpits ring with whilst they are knocks and belaboured by those new Mountebank Predicants or Praters who decry and contemn the Lords Prayer the Apostles Creed and ten Commandements as rags and reliques of Popery and Superstition Their Liturgie which began in the nonageraign of Edw. the 6. and after some years interruption got stronger footing by an Act of Parliament in Q. Elizabeths daies and so was become almost of fourscore years prescription half as old as one of our Grandfathers is decryed antiquated by the present Parliament contemned by the people and succeeded by a new thing called a Directory of 4. or 5. yeares unquiet standing which begins already to lose credit with its first accepters though as yet the stronger Faction not without frequent scuffles and blood-shed keeps it perforce in many Churches and what is kept in perforce it neither likely to breed devotion unlesse it be of the new garb nor to be of long durance if the old Proverb faile not Nihil violentum diuturnum Their former marke of thirty nine Articles is little regarded if not quite out of date yea which is worse the Apostles Creed the perpetuall marke or symbol of a Christian is questioned and hath stood these six or seven yeares subjected to the disquisition of the Parliaments subpedancan Divines without determination as yet whether it be to be imbraced all and intirely for truth or only part Concerning the solemnities of their Sacraments I need not tell you into what omission and confusion they are fallen about their Lords Supper some Churches having had no Communion at all these six or seven years some using it after the old fashion others after the new some receive it kneeling some standing some sitting none of the new-modell'd Ministers some of the old did others derided it claiming more power to consecrate then the Layicks of the Parliament can give them which they know to be no more then the Bakers that sell them bread can sell with it As for their Sacrament of Baptisme besides their novelty in the manner and circumstances it is certaine they are defective in some places even in the essentialls I meane in the words of Institution and application of water some saying instead of I baptize thee in the Name of the Father c. We take thee into the Congregation of the faithfull Whether all apply the water either at all or rightly is more then my distance out of the Countrey permits me to learne but not more then I have reason to doubt of And where any of the essentialls are wanting there certainely the child is not baptized but left as he was borne a child of perdition by the state of originall sin The Burialls now among the Reformed in England are in a manner prophane in many places the dead being throwne into the ground like dogs and not a word said nor have they willingly more differences of daies by holy or fast in memory of Christian mysteries then Turks and Infidells nor finally is there any thing almost out of the Catholikes hands left in the Countrey that can perswade a travelling stranger to think England to be rather Christian then Turkish excepting the outward shape of Churches which of the charges to alter them be not a Remora may be also reformed ere long To these metamorphosies or changes of late inventions into the present of a little fresher coine adde the confounded Chaos we see now in matters of Religion throughout the Kingdome God Almighty permitting the monster of Reformation to reveale its owne turpitude and to betray its selfe by its cloven feet of Sects and Divisions to be what indeed it is that men might more easily discern it to beat it down and detest it Luther himselfe at the first and afterwards his followers of whatsoever Reformation were mightily tormented with those questions