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THE DOCTRINES AND PRINCIPLES THE Persecution Imprisonment Banishment Excommunicating of the Saints of God By the Priests and Magistrates of SCOTLAND Contrary to the Doctrine of CHRIST and the APOSTLES Here all may see The Priests of Scotland and their Church and their Persecution Imprisonment and Banishment and Excommunicating of the Saints and Lambs Servants and Children of God which the Lord moved to go amongst them to visit the Seed of God in that dark wilderness-country who has been as Sheep among Wolves Also How pure Religion is turned upside-down and vain Religion got in its place And the pure Doctrine of Christ and the Apostles which saith Entertain Strangers Love Enemies is lost amongst you In stead of entertaining strangers and loving of enemies they Imprison and Persecute and have made their Church unsavory And the Teachers fruits declares to be false who are wrestlers against flesh and blood and strikers at creatures which Christ and the Apostles did not George Weare John Hart William Grey William Stockdale William Mitchell Richard Ismead LONDON Printed for Robert Wilson at the Signe of the Black-spread-Eagle and winde-Mill in Martins-lane near Aldersgate 1659. THE DOCTRINES AND PRINCIPLES Of the Priests of Scotland c. FIRST These Presbyterian Priests of Scotland which Excommunicate and puts out of the Synagouges knowes not the Father and the Son John 16. so no true Christians for how can they be true Christians that knows not the Son of God nor the Father Secondly They are no Ministers of Christ for Christ saith When they curse blesse ye so they be out of Christs doctrine and teaching not blessing but cursing and giving forth curses and all the people must say Amen to their Curses Thirdly They be out of the Apostles doctrine who saith Blesse and curse not Rom. 12.14 so are no Ministers of Christ that curseth and gives forth their Curses to the people to say Amen to them and here they are shut out of the Apostles doctrine and Christs all people mark and take notice them they are that curse which the Apostle saith Blesse and curse not these are the Cursers and not Blessers that Excommunicate you out of the Synagogues Hugh Archball Priest of Stravan John Hume priest of Lesmahagow William Hambleton priest of Glasford James Durram priest of Glasgow John Castaires priest of Glagow Francis Ard priest of Discert Matthew Mackel Priest of Bothwel Henry Foreside priest of Lingiah James Nesmith priest of Hambleton Robert Semple priest of Losmahagow Thomas Garony Priest of Edenbrough John Burnet priest of Kilbroid A short Relation of the Vnjust sufferings of the People of God called Quakers by those unreasonable cursing Priests who covet after innocent blood as the Reader may finde in this ensuing Treatise WILL. OSBVRNE was Excommunicated by William Sterling Priest because he gave his testimony against him and the rest of the Priests Margaret Hambleton was Excommunicated by Lewis Semerell Priest of New-monkeland for entertaining the people of God called Quakers and the denying the tyrannicall power of the Presbitery John Hutchison was Excommunicated by James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton and the Priest would not give him any account for what he did it George Weare was Ecommunicated by John Hume Priest of Lesmahagow and the rest of the Presbytery of Lenarick for entertaining the people of God called Quakers William Michel John Michel Robert Todd Mary Inglish Elizabeth Lappy Marian Michel these were Excommunicated by Peter Kid Priest of Douglass and the rest of the Presbytery of Lenarick for denying that Matthew Mark Luke and John was the Gospel they witnessing the Power of God to be the Gospel Thomas Jacke Gabriel Hood James Cooke Gavine Scevenson John Hambleton Alexander Hambleton Jannett Hambleton Barbarah Hambleton Jannett Hambleton Andrew Hambleton Jane Hambleton Katherine Hambleton Katherine Hart John Allene James Hambleton William Hambleton Margaret Hambleton John Hart James Actkine John Hart Alexander Hart Jean Hart Gavine Hart John Lacoke Jannett Brown Jeanet Hambleton Andrew Brown Jean Brown Thomas Craiqqe John Torrens Katherina Hambleton Katherina Weare Jeanet Weare These were Excommunicated by Matthew Mackell Priest of Bothwell and the rest of the Presbitery at Hambleton for saying that Priests that preacheth up Sin for terme of life be Ministers of the man of Sinne. James Finly William Gray and many others have been Excommunicated by those Priests in that manner And after those Priests had Excommunicated these aforesaid persons they caused a general Synode to meet at Glascow and made an Order and published it in all their Masse-houses that none of those people called Quakers should have any entertainment and that no people should have any dealing with them in any Civil affaires not to give cursed men work as they styled our Friends and hindring men to work for them and that under pain of Excommunication the extent of which Order is that they should neither buy nor sell eat nor drink with them in the Nation William Stockdale and John Boweram being moved of the Lord to go to Strahavan in Evandale and declaring the word of truth there one a Market-day to the people was oftentimes knockt down with stones and stoned out of the town with violence by the wicked people William Stockdale John Gill and several others having a Meeting in Strahavan a company of the Priests hearers came and fell upon them with staves and stones broke up their Meeting and stoned them above a quarter of a mile out of the town insomuch that some bloud was spilt and many were sore bruised William Stockdale was knockt down in the Steeple-house yard of Damanoy and the people set their feet upon him and pulled much hair off his head insomuch that some of them cried he is kild for he could not speak nor rise off the ground for along time George Weare and several others had their Bonnets taken away from them at a Meeting and they laid it before William Lowery called Justice but he instead of doing Justice threatned them saying If they went to that place to meet again he would have them whipt or else he would whip them himself Richard Gollon Bayliff of Leanarick took away William Michels Bonnet by order of William Jacke priest of Carlooke and the Priest would not let him have it again neither would he let the said William and some others stay in the Town all night although the night was stormy and the Priest and the Bayliff had his Bonnet Mary Inglish for going to ask Peter Kid priest of Douglass why he warned them to the Sessions and did not appear to accuse them there was shamefully abused and beaten by the Priests wife and others here 's the Priests fruits George Fox the yonger Elexander Parker and others had their letters taken from them and broke up by George Monk and the Council of Scotland and never returned to them again also ten pounds worth of true books taken away from the people of God called Quakers by George Monk and the Councell of
Magistrates would grant them an order that none should receive them into their houses and that they might not have their liberty and their servants would be much refreshed who cry stone them let us have a Law against them and if the Laws were right they would chop off their heads and make them remove by club Law but how was these Priests the Magistrates servants at Dunbar Fight when they excommunicated and cursed their now being army and Magistracy but now they would be their servants if they would execute their wills upon the innocent Surely these things cannot but stinck to all Magistrates that feare God These are the servants and servers of the times that the Prophets calls inchanters Lev. 19.16 and for their own false ends ye can never read that the Apostles nor Christ did ever teach any such doctrine that the people should be stoned or have their heads choped off or driven away by clup Law which shewes you are Apostatates from the Apostacy and of the Jewish nature The Synod at Glasgow in the second moneth did ordain concerning these persons in Clidsdale formerly Excommunicated who are called Quakers that no other people in other parishes should bargain with them or suffer them to come within their houses or have entertainment for mony Upon which the people persecuted and stoned them haled them out of their houses in several places viz. Three of them people called Quakers were in the night time between the 10. and 11. hours drawn by force out of an Inne in the Town of New mills in Aire-shire and stoned out of the town into the Fields to shift for their lodging And others three severall times were beaten stoned and shamefully intreated and persecuted in Stravan And others at Lithmahaga And others shamefully abused in the Town of Kirkantillough And others stoned at Kilbride And others pitifully stoned beaten and abused and some blood shed at Glasford And at many other places much harme hath been done These be the Priests fruits the bloody Presbytery who would have them stoned and their heads chopped off some of the Magistrates did stop the people for abusing of them so that the Priests malice was not altogether satisfied Andrew Brown and John Lacock of Glasford were cast into prison for asking him a question when he was Catechising and admonished them when they were far absent and if they come before them they will cast them into prison this makes them peepers and mutterers to admonish them when they are not present and is this like to change them or do they intend to change them who admonish them when they are out of hearing and did Excommunicate them when they were in prison what an unhumanly part is this wicked develish envious and unchristian Ministry And John Hart went to a steeple house to here the Priests admonishment for the Priest said he would admonish him and he went to hear him and when he had admonished him he spake to him and bid him prove himself in the docrine of Christ and they who he admonished out of it and then give them a bill of divorsment but the Priests went to the Court and got a warrant from the Justice and so cast him into prison and when he was in prison Excommunicated him and said he disturbed him And here his devilish wicked art doctrine appears which shews him of Cains flock where is nothing but persecution murther and envious-slayers vagabonds cursed speakers that went on in the way of Balaam or Core that makes merchandize of the people through their covetousnesse and feigned words to the people And gives forth their Curses in their Congregations and all the people are to say Amen to them as followeth The Priests first Curse that all the people were to say Amen to Cursed be all they that say Grace is free and let all the people say Amen Answ ANd so they curse the Apostles and the Apostles doctrine and all that witnesse to it who said The free grace of God which bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men Tit. 2.11 and was the Saints Teacher these things the Apostles commanded to teach with all authority Tit. 2.15 but the ungodly men turn this grace of God into wantonness of old ordained for condemnation Ye are the raging waves of the Sea sending and foming out your own shame whose fruits wither neglecting the common salvation read Jude Ye are like to Sodom and Egypt clouds without water who run greedily after the wages of Balaam going on the way of Cain and shall perish in the gain-saying of Core and walking despitefully against the spirit of grace and they that turn the grace of God into wantonness denies the Lord that bought them 2 Pet. 2. Jude 11. Ye are the trees without fruit wells without water carried about with tempests cursed speakers teaching the people to say Amen to your cursing the Apostles doctrine and so willingly ignorant that your damnation may be just that your madness and folly might appear to all and so sensual having not the spirit waves of the Sea wandring stars received for darkness of blackness read Jude The grace of God which bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men Tit. 2.11 So that which brings salvation and hath appeared to all men ye curse that which is the grace of God which ye with your damnable doctrine and doctrine of Devils curse them that witness it 2 Pet. 2. 1 Tim. 4. upon whose consciences the hot Iron hath come hardned them that went to the doctrine of Devils went to them that did not hold forth the Saviour of all men but especiall them that beleeve 1 Tim. 4.10 These things command and teach let no man despise thy youth Now they that went to the doctrine of Devils from the Saviour of all men but especially them that believe and from the grace of God which hath appeared to all men which brings salvation are they which have turned the grace of God into wantonness ordained of old for condemnation which is the light Jude 4. Such be in Cains way from the command of God Cores way from the truth and Balaams way from the spirit those be the clouds and tempests upon whose heads comes the Woe The Priests second Curse which all the People were to say Amen to Cursed be all they that say the Scriptures is not the Word of God and let all the people say Amen Ans HEre they have cursed Luke who calls the Scripture a Declaration of the Word Luke 1.1 and Acts 1.1 where it is called a Treatise and they have cursed their own company who say the Scriptures signifies writings and they have cursed John who did not say the Scripture was the Word who said In the beginning was the Word Joh. 1.1 and the Scripture is words as Revel the last He that addeth to the words and Christ his name is called The Word of God Rev. 19.13 And the Scriptures are words not a word Exod. 20. and which words Christ
Commission from Paul for giving people Bread and Wine Paul never gave such a Commission to any neither doth he say he had power to give any Commission but declares himself a servant neither did Paul own any of thy generation of hirelings which drew people from the true foundation but declares against them and bids people turn from them Therefore give over deceiving the people and repent and call not Bread and Wine any more an Ordinance of God which thou sayest you are commanded by man to practise lest thy and their portion be in the Lake where there is Weeping and Wailing and gnashing of Teeth which you cannot escape unlesse ye Repent for ye are such as make the Word of God of none effect by your Tradition and so are to be turned from Reasons why we deny them and the Priests of their Generation FIRST They are such teachers as walk in the steps of the Pharisees which Christ cryed woe against Mat. 23.6 They stand praying in the Synagogues and are called of men master contrary to Christs command who said to his Ministers be not ye called of any man master and because they are such as break Christs command therefore we deny them Secondly They are such as preach another Gospel then the Apostles did and saith Salvation is by the Scripture which is contrary to that which is held forth by the Prophet Isa 49.6 Who said Christ was given for Salvation to the end of the earth and the Apostle said their is not salvation in any other Acts 4.12 And because they preach another Gospel therefore we deny them Thirdly They are such teachers as say the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament is the foundation for Believers to build upon which is contrary to the Apostles Doctrine who saith Christ is the Foundation and cheif Corner Stone Psal 118.22 Act. 4.11 Rom. 9.33 1 Pet. 2.7 Mat. 21.42 And because they hold out another foundation then the Holy Men of God did therefore we deny them Fourthly They are such as take hire for their preaching contrary to Christs command who said to his Ministry Freely ye have received freely give and because they neither receive freely nor give freely therefore we deny them Fifthly They are such teachers who deny that the Grace of God which brings salvation hath appeared unto all men and so would make the Apostle a lyar and a false Minister who saith in the 2 Tim. 11. The Grace of God that brings Salvation hath appeared to all men and because they deny the Apostles Doctrine therefore we deny them Sixthly They are such teachers as deny the Doctrine of perfection which is the Doctrine of Christ who said be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect and Holy for I am Holy which Doctrine the Apostles walked in and spake amongst those that were perfect 1 Cor. 2.6 And labored to present every man in Christ Jesus and because they are not found in this labour that the Apostles was in to present men perfect in Christ Jesus but cryes against it and preaches up sin for terme of life which is the Doctrine of Devils therefore we deny them Seventh They are such Teachers as go into Cains way and running greedily after rewards and covetousnesse Jude 11. contrary to the Apostles who said he covered not mans gold silver nor apparell Acts 20.23 therefore we deny them Eighth They are such as are made Ministers by the will of man and persecute and raile against such as fear God and are of a honest conversation therefore we deny them Nineth They are such Teachers as adde to and diminish from the Scriptures unto whom the plagues of God are due therefore we deny them Tenth They are such as Ezekiel cryes against in Ezek. 34. That feed with the fat and clothe with the wool and make a prey upon the people therefore we deny them Eleventh They are such teachers as uphold a false worship in the I dolls Temples made with hands which Christ sent his Ministers to cry against and do deny the true worship which is in Spirit and in truth therefore we deny them Twelfth They are such Teachers as keepes Drunkards Swearers liars proud covetous and all manner of vile persons in their Assemblies and cast out them that fear God and are of honest conversation therefore we deny them Written by one that Worship God in Spirit and in Truth and do deny all False Worship which men sets up and is also a witnesse for God against all deceit and deceivers known by the Name of Will Stockdale The 26 of the last Moneth called Feb. 1657. THE END
words 2 Tim. 3.5 and murthers them that enjoys their life and persecutes them The Devil abode not in the truth John 8.44 Adam and Eve abode not in the truth but transgressed Gen. 3. Cain abode not in the truth when he murdered Abel Gen. 4. The Jews abode not in the truth but crucified the just Jam. 5.6 The Antichrist and the false-Prophets since the daies of the Apostles and the Beast abode not in the truth 1 Iohn 2.19 that made the war against the Saints Rev. 13. And here is the murderers envious and persecutors warring and fighters and their sacrifice God never accepted Gen. 4.5 in all ages and these are them that persecuted those that was in the truth whose sacrifice God accepted to the witness of God in you all I speak that you may see your fall from the truth out of the Prophets life Christs life and the Apostles life so be out of the commands and fallen from God and say that none can keep the commandments that is the Word that shall stand for ever so ye are they that loves not not God Joh. 14.13 1 Joh. 2.4 but are of the Beast and false Prophets that makes war against them that keep the commands of God Rev. 22.11 so that which saith none can keep the Commandements is fallen out of the truth and the Commandments of God 1 Iohn 2.4 Ioh. 8.44 And to him the truth is death and the commands of God in which the Saints live to whom the Commandments are not grievous 1 Iohn 5.3 Thomas Garwine Priest of Edenborough his Doctrine and PRINCIPLES Pr. THat the Childe that is not sprinkled with outward water is in a damnable state and worse then an infidell Answ Now here he and the rest of the Presbyterian Priests of Scotland may say Abraham was in a damnable state Isaac was in adamnable state Jacob was in a damnable state and Joseph was in a damnable state and David was in a damnable state and John the Baptist was in a damnable state which were not sprinkled by a Priest with outward water nor named by the Priest so thou and you with your traditions that say a Child is in a damnable state if ye do not sprinkle it with water and the Apostle bids them not look at the things that are seen and you are in the damnable state and the damnable doctrine teachers of lies and many simple people have been deceived by you and given over to believe you but God hath taken the vail off their hearts that you begin to be seen and their salvation shall they know stands not in elements as though you with your sprinkling Infants with outward water could bring out of the damnable state Oh ye deceivers did not the Apostle say they that were Circumcised Christ profited them nothing Gal. 5.2 ye have long deceived people with your beggerly rudiments and elements and doctrines and traditions Col. 2. hatched up at Schools and never commanded of God and say if people will not observe your traditions or your elements which you call a Papist word Sacrament and perishing they not observing it are in a damnable state and worse then the Heathen and Infidels an Infidel is an Heathen one that knowes not God But your generation says it is blasphemy to say any hath known God and hath seen God and spoken to God so they themselves have concluded to be Heathen The Heathen know not God The Heathen observes traditions and they that know God cannot observe the traditions of the Heathen but obeys the Apostles doctrine and touches not tasts not nor handles the traditions of men and Ordinances which will perish so not saying so they that observe not traditions are not worse then Heathens but they that observe traditions are as the Heathens and be out of the Apostles doctrine in their own traditions and rudiments and are offended at those that will not touch them Robert Semple Priest of Lasmahagow came to George Weare of Saffield to reason with him and he laid down these following things for his doctrine and principles His first doctrine and principles was to prove the lawfulnesse of being called of men master standing praying in the Synagogues going in long Robes and he mentioned Ezras Pulpit of wood upon which he stood and read the Law to the people and for the rest he said nothing for his mouth was stopt concerning these things being found in the steps of the Pharisees Mat. 23. we do grant that Ezra had a Pulpit of wood but you profess your selves Ministers of the Gospel and plesbyterians and are ye sain to run to Ezra in the Law for a Pulpit now you have shewed your selves what you are and brought your deeds to the light but the Priesthood was made by the Law of God so were you never that priesthood changed and the Law changed also by which it was made and pulpit and Tythes ended and Christ the everlasting Priesthood witnessed so thou and you have proved your selves no Ministers of the Gospel Christ Jesus the power of God and the wisdom of God the ever lasting Priest-hood who is the end of Priests Pulpits and Tythes that was true in their place So you that have got up another Pulpit Tythes Temple like Readers of the Law and not like ministers of the Gospel and Priests are separated from the Apostles in the delusion and from Christ the everlasting Priesthood Heb. 7. and are them that Jude 19. and 2 Pet. 2. speakes of That separates themselves having not the Spirit that they were in who witnessed against Pulpit Tythes and Priest-hood and witnessed Christ the everlasting Priest-hood which Pulpit Tythes and Priesthood ye are crying up and so Antichrist George Weare bad him prove his practice for sprinkling of Infants and whether or no they were not to believe before they were Baptized He said the promise was to Abraham and his seed George answered him it was not to seeds as to many but to thy seed which is Christ Robert the Priest said That seed Christ was natural contrary to the Apostles doctrine Gal. 3.16 who said Christ was the power of God 1 Cor. 1.14 15. and Christ the mistery Col. 1.2.7 The first man is of the earth earthly the second man is the Lord from Heaven heavenly 1 Cor. 15. the spirituall man judgeth all things 1 Cor. 2.15 The seed of the woman bruiseth the serpents head Gen. 3.15 and the promise is to the seed and the seed is Christ the power of God And Christ the seed is the spiritual man and so not natural but the Priest said the seed is natural Now let all see in this whether he be not given up to delusion to speak lies in hypocrisy 1 Tim. 4.1 to delude and deceive people for dishonest gain Ezek. 22.13 Which seed he and all the Presbyterians shall finde spiritual to judge them and bruise the heads of them and break their wicked cords and bonds of iniquity which they have laid upon the people Mat. 23. Ezek.
Scotland and never was given back to this day it being two years since Alexander Parker was cast in Prison by order of George Monk and the Councell George Fox the younger banished and sent from Constable to Constable by order of George Monke and the Councell George Wilson George Fox the younger and Richard Ismead was banished from the Isles of Orkney by George Monks Comand and the rest of the Councel of Scotland Alexander Parker and severall others were comanded and sent out of Scotland by George Monke and the order of the Councell of Scotland Francis Howgill Thomas Robbinson and one more were apprehended at Dumfreize by the souldiers and magistrates of the town whereupon the said Souldiers rifled them and their Port-mantles for Letters but when they could not finde any to accuse them withall the Magistrates cast them into prison as Vagrants and did intend to have sent them into England again by Constables but it being proved that they were no Vagabonds the Magistrates and Souldiers was faine to let them go after all the wrong they had done them though it was to their own shame Christopher Fell was put into prison in Parsley for speaking to the Priest after the Priest had done and the people did threaten that if any Quakers did come again to their Church as they called it they would carry knives with them to stab them to which threatning John Dove who was then Lieftenant of a Troop of Horse and quartered in that town said If they did do as they said he would bring the Troop of Horse and be-set them in their house so to preserve the peace Thomas Holmes and Elizabeth his wife was shamefully abused in severall places in Scotland Richard Pinder was put in prison four dayes and in the Stocks five houres and banished out of the Land for speaking to the people in the Steeple-hous-yard of Kilbryde between the Priests Sermon time Richard Ismead for bidding James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton prove himself to be a Minister of Christ was put in prison there and from thence sent prisoner to Glascow there put in the stooks with a gagg in his Mouth and a paper pinnd on his brest and was commanded to depart the Land William Stockdall was put in prison four dayes in a hole where he could scarce get room to lye down for speaking to James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton James Lanchester and others was severall times put in prison for speaking in the streets of Hambleton John Hart Andrew Browne and John Lacoke was imprisoned severall weeks in Glascow for going to the Priests house to speake to him and the priest excommunicated them in the mean while Thomas Jack was put in prison some dayes for going to the priest to aske why he would excommunicate him the said Thomas Jack was put in prison and kept from his Trade he being a poore man and his wife lying in Child-bed James Lanchester and Robert Withers was banished out of Scotland George Were was put in prison twenty three dayes and nothing laid to his charge justly Will. Michell was put in prison above twenty nine days for taking a wife contrary to the Priests will John Robberton called Lord of Ornock publikely refused to enter Andrew Hambleton in Shawton Hill in his prossession under him because he was excommunicated by the Priest wittnesses of this Alexander Hambleton John Strandders William Gray James Finly Robert Gray Robert Smally John Robbins all five were put in prison because they could not break Christs command John Hart and Jeannett Browne was put into prison for entertaining the people of God called Quakers Three taken out of an Inn by force in the night season between the tenth and eleventh houre and stoned out of the Town these and many more whose names are not here written have suffred much by this persecuting generation of Priests whose throates are open sepulchers to swallow down the bloud of the Saints and Servants of the most high God Hugh Archballs Doctrine and Principles Priest of Stravan in Evendale These are his Principles as follow Pr THat Christ hath not enlightened every one that comes into the world Ans Which is contrary to Johns doctrine John 1.9 Pr. That Christ doth enlighten none but those that do receive him Answ Contrary to John 3 speaking of them which hath the light and are enlightened and will not come to it because the light will reprove them so he that hates the light is enlightened and will not receive Christ Pr That it is blasphemy to say that the true light doth enlighten and condemn the world Answ Contrary to John 1 9 and 3 19 that saith This is the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world And this is the Condemnation of the world that light is come into the world Pr To say that which reproves for sin is from Heaven is blasphemy Answ Contrary to John 16 8 which saith it is the spirit that reproves which comes from the Father and the Son which is from Heaven Pr. He cryeth up a naturall light as Sun Moon and Stars and the light of Christ was before these was made and saith it is blasphemy to say they that did the things contayned in the Law was blessed in the deed and the Apostle said the doers of the Law was justified and said he would leave the Friends that speake to him to the mercy of the people Answ Upon which they struck bitterly with books fists and stones to destroy but that same moderate people and Souldiers stayed the Persecution John Hume Priests of Lesmahagow His Principles as followes who got into a Steeple-house and shut the door upon him thus he taught the people Pr THat which was to be known of God was manifest by the things that are created Answ Contrary to the Apostles doctrine Rom 1 19 For whatsoever may he known of God is manifest in them for the invisible things of him from the Creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made even his eternal power and God-head so that they are without excuse So with that of God in them they know the invisible things from the foundation of the world and with that they see the God-head Pr That God was to be known by the things that were made as the Sun Moon and Stars Answ But Jesus Christ said Mat 11 27 No man knowes the Father but the Son and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him and the heathens know not God nor the Jewes had not seen his shape And his servants and workmen did throw water stones and lime and persecuted and dirtted and abused the people called Quakers and threw a pan full of water in a Souldiers neck and the said Priest never reproved them and these be the fruits of him and his own Family in stead of gravity well may the whole Parish be out of order when his own Family is thus So he is one that is reproved by the Apostles doctrine 1
Tim. 3. which saith If you cannot rule your own Family how can you take care for the Church of God Henry Foreside Priest of the Parish of Lingee in Dunbarton-shire said in his Preaching to the People Pr. IF they had any Christian zeal they would stone them whom they call Quakers Answ It is the blind zeal that stones not the Christian zeale that have the life of Christ for the Christian zeal is to pray for them that persecute Mat. 5.44 and not to stone them and to love enemies it was the Jewes zeal that took up stones to stone Christ John 8.59 they stoned Steven Acts 7.5 8. and stoned the Apostles Acts 14.19 In this the Presbyterians have proved their Christianity to be out of Christ and the Apostles Pr. If Paul and the rest of the Apostles had been alive they would have stoned the Quakers Answ Here all may see his work to be the envious man in Cains way Jude 11. who would murther and wrongs the Apostle who never taught nor intended any such doctrine but said Overcome evil with good Rom. 12.21 and love bears all things 1 Cor. 13.7 Now see whose Minister this man is that cannot bear but would have them stoned and would have the Apostle as bad as himself which Apostle said Christ was his example who laid down his life for his enemies Rom. 5.8 who suffered the contradiction of sinners we will render evill to no man but say the contrary the Lord Jesus forgive them Luke 23.34 and the Apostle said they wrestled not against flesh and blood Ephesians 6.12 but them and you that stone do ye not wrestle against flesh and blood But if the Apostles would have stoned would they not have wrestled against flesh and Blood And if the Apostles should have stoned all that were contrary to their mindes and bidding the people stone them and told them it was Christian zeal what work would they have made as the said Henry Foreside called Minister doth where would have been long suffering Gal. 5.22 and loving enemies Mat. 5.44 and where would he have had any to have converted and who would have been persecutors and who would have prayed for persecutors ye may see what a pit ye are fallen into and how should they have convinced gain-sayers Tit. 1.9 and loved them whem they had stoned them And this is the Presbyterians zeal of Scotland and not Christian zeal who would stone and stir up his congregation to do so for Christ who is clothed with zeal Isa 59.17 said Love your Enemies but ye are cloathed with madness and folly And the Apostle that was in his zeal according to knowledge said Overcome evil with good Rom. 12.21 amd vengeance is the Lords and he will repay it Rom. 12.19 and love bears all things but his blind zeal cannot bear any thing but cryes stone them out of the way and so wickedly and devilishly calls it Christian zeal which is false that is the Devils zeal Now the Apostles wrestled not against flesh and blood but against the powers of darkness Eph. 6.12 but the Presbyterians called Ministers are striking against flesh and blood whilst ye would stone them whilst that time spirituall wickednesse lies within you So ye Presbyterian-Priests are as a troop of robbers that would murther in the way by consent Hos 6.9 James Dorram called Minister of Glascow his Principles Pr. THat the believers even the reall godly are not without sin in this life Ans Here is one that is charging the elect and laying sin to the elect that God justifies Rom. 8.33 that in the godly there should be sin Sin is out of the godly in the ungodly which turne the grace of God into wantonness and and what good doth his preaching doe them if they must never be without sin whilst they are upon earth they can be but in their sin if they never preach to them But the Scripture saith He that believes is borne of God and he that is borne of God cannot sin because his seed remaines in him 1 Iohn 3.9 But this is of another world to him who is called James Dorram Minister of Glasgow Minister of darknesse who puts no difference betwen the children of God and the children of the Devill 1 Iohn 3.10 They would have sin whilst they are upon the earth and it is darknesse but the Apostles said they were made free from sin Rom. 6.22 whilst they were upon the earth Pr. Christ being sinlesse seperates him from all others Answ Christ being separated from sinners Heb. 7.26 who are in Christ are separated from sinners and sin both 2 Cor. 6.17 But this Ja Dorram hath made the offering of none effect Heb. 10.14 which hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified And hath made the blood of Jesus of none effect which cleanseth from all sin 1 John 1.7 And he hath made the everlasting Covenant of none effect which blots out all sins trespasses And he hath made the faith of the Son of God of none effect which purifies the heart and gives victory over the world Acts 15.9 1 Ioh. 5.5 Thou dost herein preach hold up sin and doth not preach it down and yet thou saiest thou preachest not to hold it up and yet thou preachest they must have it whilst they are upon the earth here is confusion in thy tongue Pro. 17.20 Thou shouldst have preached it down and have brought them to a Church where there is neither spot nor wrinkle nor blemish nor any such thing Eph. 5.27 if thou were a true Minister but your Church is full of spots and blemishes and wrinkels whilst ye are preaching up zeal to stone people and sin while they live as Henry Foreside and James Dorram doth Pr. God be thanked the scripture speaks nothing for freedom from sin and perfection Answ Thou thankest God that thou maist live in thy sin and imperfection and art glad of thy false hope but thou art a lyar thou art out of the truth in this for the Scripture saith they were made free from sin Rom 6 26 and they preached wisdom among them that were perfect 1 Cor. 2 6 and he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified Heb. 10 14 So the scripture speakes of freedom from sin and perfection and be perfect Pr That the condemning power of sin is taken away Answ The believer doth not sin 1 Iohn 5 1 1 Iohn 3 9 but he that the believer overcomes commits sin 1 Io 3 8 and 1 Io 5 5 and if the believer commits sin who overcomes the believer and so he that commits sin is under the condemning power of sin which thou saist not which thou and all other shall witnesse Pr The believer is not in sin as the unbeliever is he sins not as the unbeliever doth and in an other place he saith the Law is the same to the believer that it is to the unbeliever Answ Here any may read thy confusion but I say unto thee he that believeth
doth not commit sin but the unbelief is sin Rom 11 20 and Christ is the end of the Law to every one that believes for righteousness sake Rom. 10.4 and yet thou puts both believers and unbelievers under the Law Lodowick Simerell Priest of the new parish of Munckland his Principles and Doctrines Pr. THat it is blasphemy to say that the light in man which reproves of sin is the light of God is perfect is the gift of God Answ Contrary to scripture contrary to Christs words and contrary to the Apostles words is thy doctrine and Principles for every gift of God is perfect Isa 1.17 Isa 49.6 Joh. 1.3 Joh. 4. For Christ is the gift of God and he hath given him for a Covenant of light to the Jews and Gentiles which doth enlighten every man that commeth into the world which every one that doth truth comes to it which every one that doth evil hates the light and will not come to the light because the light will reprove him and so This is the condemnation of the world that light is come into the world and men love darkenesse rather then light because their deeds be evill So this light is perfect which doth reprove every man of sin and is from above and it is the gift of God and thou art blind and in darkness that comprehends it not And the light which doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world Christ Jesus the gift of God him by whom the world was made this light was before any naturall light was made Sun Moon or Stars for all things that was made was made by the light which came a light into the world that all through him might believe for he that believes not in the light is condemned already and he that does believe in the light hath the witnesse in himself to set to his seal that God is true and the spirit of truth that doth reprove the world is perfect and of God The light which every one that cometh into the world is enlightened withall is not conscience for the light was before any thing was made or conscience named So the light is that which exerciseth the conscience towards God and towards man where it is loved and the voice heard but where it is hated and the voice not heard the conscience is seared and the light is their condemnation whose consciences is seared which light was before conscience was The Priest would not have thee and thou to be to a single person and so is the man that would not indure sound words that cannot be condemned thee and thou was the language between God and his Saints and one another and you is to many and thou was to one and this was the language between Jeptha and his daughter and between the Saints and the Kings this shewes thou hast not learned the Accidence nor Bible nor art come to the form of sound words John Castaires called Minister of Glascow his Principles Pr. T Is naturall folkes duty to pray to God and worship him although they sinfully keep themselves under a sinfull necessity to sin against God through ignorance Answ This hath been your worke to keep people in ignorance which you may be ashamed of A natural man cannot worship God for he cannot receive the things of God nor a sinfull man but worship the Devil for he that commits sin serves him and he that serves sin serves the Devill and worships him Iohn 8 34 And Christ said the Pharisees should receive the greater damnation for their pretended long prayers Mat. 23 14 and so he did not justifie them in their long prayers but rebuked them and said Wo unto them who draw near with their lips when their hearts were far off Isa 29 13 And they that pray and worship God must pray in the spirit 1 Cor 14 15 and worship in the Spirit which the Devil is out of John 4 21 Pr If the first Command be in force and if it be in force negatively it is also in force positively thou shalt have me for thy God and oughtest to worship me and if they pray not as they should let them answer for it for it is not sin of it self Answ The children of Israel that the Commandments were given unto knew God but the Heathen knows him not here all may see what measure thou measures withall And further thou sayest if they pray as they should not and yet not sin is praying as they should and as they should not one by this to call upon God with their lips and the heart not right and the prayers and sacrifice of the wicked is justified Prov. 15.8 and if any pray as they should not are they not condemned for it and if in praying as they should not be not sin then they doe as they should Pr. If folks should not pray because they are uncapable then a believer not finding himself in a good frame may let his prayers alone Answ A Believer is ababe of God and his cry is right his prayer is right and his groan is right 1 John 5.1 And every man that cometh into the world being enlightned and coming into the light which hath enlightned him 1 John 1.7 in that he is to watch and pray which leads him beyond naturals which will be accepted in the degree but he that hates the light his prayer is not accepted but is in the hypocrisie Pr. The Apostles bad Simon Magus an old witchcarle pray and now is there any reason to say we are bidding folk sin when we bid them pray although they be grosly ignorant Answ The Apostle bad him Repent Acts 8.22 and he was sensible he had sinned and that which makes a man sensible of sinne brings him to pray aright and turnes him from witchcraft and so thou dost put no difference between the precious and the vile Ezek. 22.26 the accepted and unaccepted And Hen. Foreside who would have had his people to stone the Quakers and calls it Christian zeal he would have his wall up that he might live in safety who murthers and would be preserved in the murtherous estate and would have the powers of the earth to be his Executioners and pack-horses but the Lord is opening of their eyes that they will not execute their malice though he is stirring up the people to do so so all may see this is not the work of our Lord Jesus Christ but the work of the Murtherer and one that makes himself drunk with the blood of the Saints Rev. 17.6 till he reel again in his madnesse And Christ called them that took up stones to stone him of their Father the Devil for doing his lust John 8.44 And thou who would have the people to stone and calls it Christian zeal thou hast manifested thy Father and to be of the Devil who was a Murtherer from the beginning but you are the Serpents and vipers that would kill to fill the measure of your Fathers Mat. 23.32 and persecute
from City to City and hale out of the Synagouges John 16.2 that all the unrighteous blood shed from righteous Abel might come upon you Mat. 23.35 and you are they that kill the bodies of the Saints and are sheders of the righteous blood Mark the righteous blood that the righteous blood might be upon you And Cain slew Abel because Abels sacrifice was accepted and his not Gen. 4. So it is about the Sacrifice and worship ye would murther and slay So ye are in Cains way a company of vagabonds whose Sacrifice God hath no respect unto if we were enemies you would not teach the people to stone us if ye were Ministers of Christ but love us Mat. 5.44 And do good to us If the Apostles should have taught the people to stone all that were contrary to their minde and Christ should have taught his Disciples to stone all that were contrary to their minde and tell them that were Christian zeale but ye may see Christ and his Apostles taught another doctrine Love your Enemies and thou teachest to stone them contrary to Christ and his Apostles we do conclude it to be the Doctrine of the Devil and not the Doctrine of Christ who are in scorne called Quakers For the true Christian zeal never taught to stone but were stoned The Priests called Presbyterians summoned some people called Quakers to come before them and they came into the Steeple house where they met and James Nasmith Priest of Hanbleton bad them remove or else he would make them remove by Club Law and they asked the presbyterian Priests for their accusers and Francis Ard one of the Priests said they were both accusers and Judges now whether this be equity that the same should be both accusers and Judges that summons and when they have summoned accused and judged saith they will make them remove by club Law whether these be not bruits and beasts and not Justices and are not fit to Judge nor to have the name of Ministers and Judges that will remove people by club Law and the said Quakers could not own them as Judges nor doth look on them as men of equity but would have had them to have given them a meeting in any place whereby the truth might be cleared which they had scandalized and come to light which they refused and that lawful witnesses might hear but they did refuse and caused them to be put in prison by the hand of a Baliffe by name Nasmith And this is the authority of the Presbyterian Priests who hath summoned with club Law but it is denyed by the Apostles Doctrine 1 Tim. 3. they must not be strikers nor false accusers These are the Presbyterian Priests of Scotlands weapons club Law which is contrary to the Ministers of Christ they said We wrestle not against flesh and blood and they must not be strikers Eph. 6.12 and after they had done violently they thrust them into prison after their wills were satisfied with violence they thrust them out again there ye may feel the Spirit of wickedness And these Presbyterian Priests are people petitions the Magistrates with a pretence they might not be guilty of others blood which pretence is in their Petitions to take away their fear that their wicked peace might not be disturbed not regarding their blood witnesse James Nasmith Priest who would make them remove by club Law So their Petition is but flattery and deceit in pretence of not being guilty of their blood in whose heart it is to shed blood as witness Henry Foreside Priest who stirred up the people in zeal to stone them Those Presbyterian Priests that set up club Law and persecution against the Quakers who would not have any to receive them into their houses So this is abominable Doctrine contrary to the Apostle whose Doctrine you have troden under your feet who said Be not forgetful to entertain Strangers for thereby some have entertained Angels unawares Heb. 13.2 And they say again They have no certain dwelling places Here these Presbyterians with their club Law and Excommunications which say the Quakers have no certain dwelling places they may inform against the Apostles which had no ceartain dwelling places and against Christ who had not whereon to lay his head Luk 9.58 and against Abraham who had not a foot of ground Gen. 12. but Cain built a City the vagabond of whose stock and off-spring you are Gen. 4.17 and said David Let their Children be vagabonds Psal 109.10 and so this is fulfilled upon you And you Presbyterian Priests with your club Law who would club those people scornfully called Quakers away you would have an Order from the Justices that none should receive the Quakers into there houses and stop them of their liberty and this is contrary to the Law of the Nations And this is damnable doctrine wherewith ye poison the people and stirs them up with madness and folly And in stead of teaching of them peace you teach them strife and in stead of loving one another you teach them to fight one with another And Henry Foreside Priest cryes stone them And James Nasmith Priest cryes for club Law And William Hambleton Priest of Glasford said to Andrew Brown if the Lawes were right they would chop off all the Quakers heads by William Hambletons words the Law is wrong because it doth not fulfill his purpose and envy Here all may see that you are doing the Devils work hunting after blood whose envy madness and folly appeares to all men what ye cannot do your selves ye exhort the people to do and what ye and the people cannot do ye Petition the Magistrates to do that all the righteous blood may come upon you Mat. 23.35 Alas for you ye poor filly Priests and mad Presbiterians Is this your work to set them to stone and cry up club Law and Law to chop off their heads is this the way to convert them is not this the Popish way of converting them ye should go to convert them instruct them convince them love them heap coals of fire upon them Mat. 5. Rom. 20. Overcome evil with good Rom. 12.21 Pray for them Mat. 5.44 No cry you chop off their heads begging by petitions that none may receive them into their houses stone them fall upon them by club law that your folly and madness may be made manifest and yet imprison them and such as receive them into their houses As for instance ye caused John Hart of the heads of Glasford and Jennet Hambleton widdow of Westmanes to be imprisoned for entertaining them into their houses Here ye have proved your selves to be the Wolves the sheep are sent among Mat. 10.16 that are ravening to devoure them which is one of the markes that ye are the false Prophets Christ said should come Mat. 7.5 And another haling out of the Synagogues and Excommunicating and ye never shew for what which practice ye are in which is a work of darknesse and upon this bargaine that the
came to fulfill The Priests third Curse to which all the people were to say Amen Cursed be all they that say Faith is without sin and let all the people say Amen Ans FAith is the gift of God and the gift of God is without sin Eph. 2.8 Faith is that which gives the victory John 3.4 And that which gives victory is without sin And here they have cursed the Apostles and their Doctrine who saith Faith is without sin and Faith is precious 1 Pet. 1.7 and that which is Precious is without sin Faith is the gift of God and the gift of God is perfect and that which is perfect is without sin and gives victory over sin Without Faith a man cannot please God and that which men please God in is without sin Hebr. 11.6 And so ye have cursed the Apostle and his Doctrine the just and that which is pure that by which they were healed through Faith they were justified Rom. 3.28 and what is not of Faith is sin Rom. 14.23 So what is of Faith is not sin and what is righteous is not sin and the Scripture speaks of the righteousness of Faith Rom. 4.13 Faith is not of sin but what is not of Faith is sin Faith gives victory over sin 1 John 3.4 in which Faith man is justified and hath peace with God Rom. 5.1 and it is a mystery held in a pure conscience 1 Tim. 3.9 The Priests fourth Curse to which all the people were to say Amen Cursed are all they that say every man hath a light sufficient to lead him to Christ and that within him and let all the people say Amen Ans HEre they have cursed the Apostles Doctrine who said God would dwell in them 2 Cor. 6.16 and Christ in you the hope of glory Col. 1.27 and God is light 1 John 1.5 And they have cursed the Prophets who said I give him for a Covenant a Leader of the people I will dwell in them and walk in them saith God Jer. 31.31 Hebr. 10.16 And he saith I will send you the Spirit of truth and it shall lead you into all truth John 14.17 John 16 13. And I will be their God to rule them and they shall be my people Jer. 31.33 Thy curses are but winde for we are redeemed from the curse and the Apostles said the light that shined in their hearts was to give them the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 and they that are led by the Spirit of God are the Sons of God Rom. 8.14 and the light to guide our feet in the way of peace and he that hath the Son hath the Father also and if any bring another Doctrine receive them not into your houses neither bid them God speed 2 John 9 10. You have here shewed your selves in the cursed estate out of the Apostles rule the same spirit of truth that led the Disciples into all truth that shall reprove the world of sin John 16.8 13. The Priests fifth Curse to which all the people were to say Amen Cursed be all they that deny the Sabbath-day and let all the people say Amen Ans HEre thou hast cursed thy self and all the Apostles and all the Saints and their own generation hast not thou and thy own generation denied the Sabbath day the Jews met on which is the Sabbath day according to the Scripture do not ye meet together upon the first day and was not Christ crucified on the sixth day and did not he arise on the first day and did not the Saints meet together on the first day and not keep the Jews Sabbath-day do not you work upon it your selves and keep Markets and Fairs on it but as it is said before we are Redeemed from the curse These are the particular Sentences whereupon Matthew Mackell and the rest of the Priests present with him did excommunicate those people called Quakers in the presence of many witnesses and he required his Hearers to say Amen to every particular sentence John Humes Priest of Lismahagow his Principles Pr. THey who have not the Scriptures knowes not the Attributes of God by the light of nature but the Scriptures declare the great mystery of the three persons in Trinity which they who want the Scriptures knowes not Ans Thy Principle is a lie and they that had not the Scriptures knew God and Christ as Abraham and Enoch and the Scripture doth not declare of the three persons nor of the Trinity and the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God Pr. That the Scriptures reveal the great mystery of Election the great works of the Creation and the work of Redemption Answ There thou hast set up the Scripture instead of God and before God and the Son for it is God that doth reveal to babes and sucklings Mat. 11.25 and God did reveal by his Spirit 1 Cor. 2.10 and God shall reveal Phil. 3.15 and the things of God are hid from the wise and prudent Mat. 11.25 that have the Scriptures the Jewes had the Scriptures and God reveals his secrets to the Prophets his Servants Amos 3.7 no man knowes the Father saving to whom the Son shall reveal him Mat. 11.17 now the Son reveals and the Father reveals and the things of God are revealed by his Spirit 1 Cor. 2.10 the Jewes had the Scriptures and knew not the Son 1 Cor. 2.8 nor the Father as in John nor the things of God by a natural light as they call it the Jewes had the Scriptures and did not know the Election Isa 24. because they were from the Spirit So it is God that reveals the Son and Redemption and Election and not the Scripture the Scripture was given forth from them that had the Revelation from God Pr. That wee and the Papists and Jesuites and Priests do agree all together that the Scripture is the word of God that liveth and endureth for ever Answ I do believe that you and the Papists and Jesuits agree all in one but ye did not agree with the Apostles and Ministers of the word for the Ministers of the word calls the Scripture a Declaration as ye may read Luke 1. and ye do not agree with them that set forth the Acts that called it a Treatise Acts 1. likewise ye do not agree with some of your own who say the Scriptures signifies writings and writings will not endure for ever so ye are Babylon and do not agree with Christ and ye do not agree with John Bev. 〈◊〉 who saith the words nor with Moses nor God who spake all these words Exod. 20. In the beginning was the word and the word is God and the word liveth and abideth for ever but the Scripture is words and the Scripture cannot be broken James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton his Principles Pr. THat the soul of man is a reasonable sinfull substance Answ How can that which is sinful be reasonable and if that which is unsinful be
reasonable and sinful be reasonable both then they are one in unity The Lord will take the soul for an offering for sin doth the Lord take that which is sinful for an offerring Isai 53. see how thou and the Prophet agrees here But what is that soul that the wicked is not able to kill is it not that which God hath in his hand and this is a lye to say that which is reasonable is sinful of one that puts light for darknesse God breathed into man the breath of life and he became a living soul who hath all souls in his hand and the soul is immortal and Christ the Bishop of it is immortal and God hath it in his hand which goeth against him that doeth evil whose hand is immortal but man transgressing against the commands of God the soul lies in death so Christ is the Bishop of the souls so they that came to know Christ their souls rejoyce in God their Saviour Luke 1. Pr. That the evil Spirits are both sinfull and reasonable Answ This is a lie for reasonable is not sinful and unreasonable is sinful 2 Thes 3. they have not the faith and if the evil Spirit be reasonable and the good reasonable they are both one who then is unreasonable If the evil Spirit be reasonable thou pots no difference between the precious and the vile thou hast the Mark of a blind guide and a false Prophet in thy so ehead Pr. That one of them Quakers is worse then the Devil A. This is a lie with his strange wonder for there is nothing worse then the Devil whose children you are for when he speaks a lie he speakes of himself and he is the Father of it Henry Foreside Priest of Lingiah in Dunbarton shire His Doctrine and PRINCIPLES Pr. THat God commands all every where to repent to the end that they should not have it to say but they were warned but not that he would give them grace to repent Answ Here thou makes God that he does not intend that he speaks and so thou would make him unrighteous though the Lord commands all men every where to repent Acts 17.30 who hath made all Nations of men of one blood to dwell upon the Earth and all being concluded under sin and unbelief that he might have mercy upon all Rom. 3.9 For both Jewes and Gentiles all were under sin and none of them did good no not one And Gods intent is that when he calls men to repentance they should repent when he calls them and many did repent and you are not fit men to be Ministers of Christ or God Now if God command all men every where to Repent and as thou sayst does not intend they should Repent thou and you go about to make God unjust First the Lord he desireth not the death of a sinner but that he should turn from his wickednesse and live Exod. 33.11 Now in the turning from his wickednesse he lives but in going on in his wickednesse he dies so Repentance was Preached from dead works to serve the living God Heb. 6.1 Christ came to call finners to Repentance not the Righteous for the whole needs not the Physitian but to the sick Mat. 9.12 13. And as for saying God did not intend to give them grace though he calls them to repentance That is a lie unrighteous doctrine for the grace of God hath appeared to all men which brings Salvation Titus 2.11 and so as he calls them to repentance he gives them grace that grace which brings salvation which men are justified by so it is saving grace that brings salvation and teacheth to deny ungodlinesse Now they that live ungodly turnes the grace of God into wantonnesse Jude 4. and these are the wells without water in Cains way Balaams way and Cores way Jude 11. speaks the high words in hypocrisie and these are they that separate themselves from the Apostles sensual having not the Spirit Jude 19. and are of old ordained to condemnation who separated from the light which turnes the grace of God into wantonnesse so these are they that neglect the common salvation it was the charge of the Apostle to Timothy before his decease 1 Tim. 4.2 2 Tim. 4.7 Then told him perillous times should come and Doctrines of Devils and men speaking lies in hypocrisie he said unto them that they should trust in the living God who is the Saviour of all men and especially of them that believe 1 Tim. 4.10 But the Devils Doctrine leads them from their Saviour and from the grace 2 Tim. 4.1 And they that are not in the Doctrine are from the light which Christ hath inlightned them withall John 1.9 And have turned the grace of God into wantonnesse and pernitious wayes and drawes others from it and we do conclude that to be the Doctrine of Devils which sayes God calls all men to repent and intends not to give them grace nor would not have them to repent as thou Henry Foreside doth say for it was the charge of the Apostle to Titus to speak sound words and sound Doctrine and could not be condemned Titus 2. and told him that the grace of God which brings salvation had appeared to all men which taught them to deny ungodlinesse and worldly lust and to live godly soberly and righteously in this present evill world these things speak and exhort with all authority Tit. 1. But as I said before ungodly men that turn the grace of God into wantonnesse are of old ordained to this condemnation and this the is condemnation of the world that light is come into the World and men love darknesse rather then light because their deeds are evill John 3.19 he that loves the light the light is his Saviour but he that hates the light it is his condemnation Pr. That the two parts of the Church must be prophane and godless Ans The Church is the Pillar and ground of truth 1 Tim. 3.15 The Church of the living God for the ungodly are out of its grounds and that which is ungodly the pillar and ground of truth there is no ungodly in it and the Church is without wrinkle or spot holy without blemish Eph. 5.27 and the Church is in God 1 Thes 1.1 That which is in God is in the light and out of the ungodly Pr. That God before the world was had ordained one little part of the people for eternal life that sin or do all the evil they could they could not loose that which was ordained for them Ans Here thou goest about to make Christ a lyar for he that commits sin is the servant of sin 1 Joh 3.8 saith He that commits sin is of the Devil saith the Apostle and thou wouldst make God partial and hast taught a Doctrine contrary to the Scriptures For God is no respecter of persons Rom. 2.11 Who will give to every one a reward according to their works Psal 62.12 And he that works iniquity must depart cursed from Christ
art unrighteous who would make God and the Apostles unrighteous like thy selfe let all that fear God judge of it who are now come to the judgment Seat before the Almighty God who have been them that erred from the Apostles Doctrine with it is judged and are judged and you must have a reward according to your works and he that comes to life comes out of his wickednesse and not the wicked man enters into the kingdom of God Rev. 21. and the promise is to the seed and he that works iniquity departs from the seed Gal. 3.16 And the Election obtaines it Rom. 11.7 Not him that wills nor runs But God that shewes mercy And whereas thou sayest the wicked manis ordained to life without any cause in the Creature less or more This is just the Devils Doctrine again to bring every one to hide his Talent and none neither to watch nor pray for this is the creature that brings him to lay a side wickednesse and to depart from sin and iniquity which lets him see it and covetous and drunkennesse so through the obedience of the Spirit and that is in the Creature that brings him to confesse his sin and for sake it whereby mercy is shewed the power of God worketh in us saith the Apostle And as they had been servants to unright cousness so came to yeeld themselves servants unto righteousnesse Rom. 6. How comes the commands of God to be obeyed if there be not somthing in the creature that cause him to obey it For thou sayest without any cause in the creature why were all these expressions spoken in scripture that they should obey all things that Christ commanded Mat. 28.20 And all the statute and Ordinances spoken of in the scriptures if there be not something in man to cause him to obey it but thy intent is to make God unrighteous who respects no mans person but gives to every man a reward according to works Rev. 2.23 The one as well as the other and all shall appear befor the judgement of Christ 2 Cor. 9.10 He will judge the world in righteousnesse but there is something in the creature for every man that cometh into the world being enlightned whereby he is capable of obeying or disobeying and not believing comes to be condemned and in believing he is saved he hath the witnesse in himselfe John 3.8 1 John 5.10 For he that commits sin is the servant of sin John 8.24 And there is no respect of persons with God but whosoever doth righteousness is accepted of him Acts 10.34 35. The Apostle said He perceived God was no respecter of persons but whosoever doth wickedly he hates the light and is condemned but whosoever doth the truth cometh to the light John 3.21 and so out of condemnation so thou teachest another Doctrine so as I said before The promise is to the seed the seed is Christ and Christ all and in all 1 Cor. 15.28 And all ungodly and wicked men are shut out of the Kingdome of God where no wicked men enters one nor other and man must be turned again from wickedness before he encers Rev. 21.8 Pr. He being asked what he would do with Quakers and he said if he had been a Civil Magistrate he would have thought it good service to have cut off all their heads Ans There ye may all see if he be not of Cains stock and what an envy proceeds out of his mouth and unchristian Spirit and how would he convert them if they were out of the way and how would he convince them who would cut off their heads hath not this proved the Quakers to be in the truth and he out of it and is not the command of Christ that ye should love your enemies Mat. 5.44 Now ye may see he is out of the command and example but followed the example of Cain the murtherer and doth not his envie show as much against the Magistrates as against the the Quakers because they will not execute his malice and slay them for him and be his executioners and were not these Priests as mad against the Magistrates as they are now against the Quakers at Dunbar fight and would not they have had their heads off let their Pulpits witness though now they admire their persons because of advantage Jude 16. Who cannot hold in but their shame must be uttered forth who would slay the persons of men as Cain did so wo from the Lord is gone out against you who are envious and strives to make the people envious but the life of God is risen in the hearts of his people with which they shall see you all and the Quakers be out of the way of Cain who be in the light of Christ Jesus the Saviour of the soul in which they come to have a habitation in God the Saviour of all men especially of them that beleeve 1 Tim. 4.10 So you that be out of the light be Vagabonds though ye have great habitations in the earth for Cain built a City yet a Vagabond Gen. 4. Pr. It was asked him of a fore-ordained number to desiruction and for what Christ wept over Jerusalem He said as he was humane he mourned and his Godhead decreed them to Hell Ans This is a lying Doctrine of the Devil for after many of them of Jerusalem came to be converted as ye may read in Acts 2. And many of the Priests came to be obedient to the Faith for all being gone astray both Jews and Gentiles Rom. 3.9 concluded under sin the pure the eternal tendred over them who had stopped their ears and closed their eyes to that which was pure of God in them that they might have come to that which is pure and have been gathered under Christs wings Mat. 23.37 who is pure and so have been converted and healed and have heard with their ears and have seen with their eyes And as for the word humane that is not Scripture language it speaks not that language and there were converted many thousands of the Jews and they were pricked to the heart when that the Apostle said that was both Lord and Christ whom ye have crucified Acts 2. mark ye here thou mayest see thy self to be a lyar for here was of the Jews and of Jerusalem that he had wept over thou sayest he had ordained them them to Hell as he was God which were converted afterwards so thou wouldst make God unequal that the Son is not in the Father and divideth them that the Son should weep over them and the Godhead decree them to Hell and did not Christ command his Apostles that they should not depart from Jerusalem and was not the mighty conversion at Jerusalem so hath not Christ wept over Jerusalem and after was there not a mighty conversion there And thou sayest he condemned them as God to Hell there thou mayest see thy self in the Devils Doctrine 1 Tim. 4.1 Many thousands were converted at Jerusalem which Christ wept over before the
Apostles departed from thence where he gave them command to stay so see thy Doctri●e is damnable and thou errs from the Scriptures let thy-mouth for ever be stopped and are not ye found in the steps of them Matth. 23. that Christ gives the mark of blind-guides to the multitude unto the Disciples which marks were such as the multitude might take notice of and I beleeve the multitude will take notice of and know you first ye bind heavy burthens upon mens shoulders ye are sayers and not doers and all their works they do to be seen of men Matth. 6. they love the uppermost rooms at feasts and the chiefest seats in the Assemblies greeting in the Markets stands praying in the Synagogues called of men Masters they were swearers they should scourge you in their Synagogues and persecute do not ye put out of your Synagogues Christ should send Prophets and wise men among them and they should persecute and put out of the Synagogues Mat. 23.34 They should shut up the Kingdom of Heaven against men and do not ye do so that do deny the light that lighteth every one that cometh into the world do any come to the Kingdome but who come to the light which every man that cometh into the world is enlightned withal may not the multitude take notice of these things called of men Master stand praying in the Synagogues having long Robes salutations in the Markets uppermost rooms at feasts puts out of the Synagogues and swearers and Christ said swear not at all Mat. 5.34 And be ye not called of men Master for one is your Master even Christ and ye all are Brethren now here is the marks of the blind guides as ye may read Matth. 23. Are they not a company of Swearers and will they not swear for their own advantage and were not the Priests always envious and false accusers provoking the Magistrates against the Disciples against Christ and against Jesus did not the Priests say Jesus should die for crying against them Jer. 26. And were not the Priests at work when any of the Saints were murthered to stir up the multitude against them or the Magistrates Was not the chief Priests and Elders seeking false witness 〈◊〉 out Jesus to death Mat. 26.39 And did not the High Priests say he had spoken blasphemy it was Pilate that put him to death did not the chief Priests perswade their multitude to ask Barrabbas Matth. 27.20 and crucifie Jesus and did not they mock him See how the Priests were alwayes busie for blood that all the righteous blood might come upon them shed upon the earth Matth. 23.35 And did not the Priests give money to Judas to betray Christ and did not the Priests give large money to the Souldiers to tell a lie and say his Disciples stole him away by night Matth. 28.11 12 13. had not Paul authority from the High Priest to persecute Acts 9.1 2. and so get you your Authority from the Magistrates and the people their Authority from you to persecute and would not the chief Priests have murthered Paul afterwards when he was converted Acts 23. Acts 2.7 Did not a company come with swords and staves from the Priests with Judas to take Christ Mark 14.13 as a troop of Robbers wait for a man so doth a company of Priests murther in the way by consent and have not ye consented together Hos 6.2 Pr. That Christ scorned men when he bad them be persect because he knew it was impossible for them Answ This is wickedness and impudency to say Christ scorned men when he bad them be perfect This is Antichrist and the Devils Doctrine for to say that Christ did command that which men should not come to for Christ nor God commanded nothing but what should be attained unto and it will be attained unto and hath been attained unto Christ said Be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect Mat. 5.4 he knew that they might be perfect if they come into the Kingdom of God for there no unperfect thing must enter Rev. 21. and so he did speak that which he knew people should come into but they should come into it if ever they came into the Kingdome of God what is this to thee which cannot love enemies for they that love enemies shall know perfection and perfect love and patience have its perfect work Jam. 1.4 the Apostles speak wisdome to them that were perfect but not the worlds wisdome which comes to nothing 1 Cor. 2.6 and the work of the Ministry was for the perfecting of the Saints till they all come into the unity of the faith unto the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man and unto the measure and stature and fulness of Christ Eph. 4. and they should not be any more tossed to and fro with the windy Doctrines of men nor cunning craftiness wherewith they lie in wait to deceive and there art thou tossed up and down with every wind and far off the work of the ministry when thou saist blasphemously Christ scorned men when he bad them be perfect Christ did not scorne them but thy doctrine it is imperfect and thou and you that transgress and abide not in the doctrine of Christ thou and you are Anti-christs as ye may read 2 John 9.10 Pr. When it was asked him of the words that Peter spake of concerning them that brought in damnable Heresies and denyed the Lord that bought them he said they did but think the Lord had bought them but they were not bought but they thought they had been so Ans Here thou again with thy damnable Doctrine dost go about to make Peter and Jude lyars who speaks contrary to scripture and perverts their Doctrine and the words of Peter are thus even denying the Lord that bought them 2 Pet. 2.1 and the words of Jude 4. denying the onely Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ and thou saist the Lord had not bought them but they thought he had bought them wo and misery man will be thy portion that thou should so wickedly pervert the Apostles Doctrine and Scripture Acts 13.10 and bring in such damnable Doctrine and devilish Doctrine and speaks such lies in hypocrisy whose conscience is seared with a hot Iron 1 Tim. 4. it is time for people to turne away from you who have so long deceived them Pr. Concerning these words of Ezek. 18.28 If the righteous man turn away from his righteousness his former righteousness shall be no more remembred and he said the meaning of that scripture was they thought they had been righteous but they were not but supposed it had been so Answ Here in this thou art a minister of unrighteousness thou goest about to make God a lyar and the Prophets and perverts the scriptures for if he forsakes his righteousnesse and commits sin and iniquity and trespasses he shall die and not live in the righteousnesse but if he forsake his sin trespasses and transgressions in the righteousnesse that he
hath done and doth he shall live so Gods wayes are equal Ezek. 18. And thou sayest they thought they had been righteous but it was not so And the Lord by the Prophet saith it was so that they should live in their righteousnesse and dye if they depart from it and transgressed here thou art a diminisher from the Prophets and Apostles words whose name is diminished out of the book of life read Rev. 22.19 Pr. He denyed that Christ dyed for all men but for the Elect. Answ Contrary to Johns Doctrine who saith he is the propitiation for our sins and not for our sins onely but for the the sins of the whole world 1 John 2.2 and so it is the unbeliever that is shut out and not believing in the light that men are enlightened withall with which light they might see the one offering who tasted death for every man Heb. 2.9 and doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world that all through him might believe and they that believe not in the light are condemned Joh. 3.18 but believing in the light shall come out of condemnation and he is the Saviour of all men but especially of them that believe 1 Tim. 4.10 and the grace of God which brings salvation hath appeared to all men which was the saints Teacher Titus 2.11 12. and they that turn it into wantonnesse shall with it be condemned Jude 4. and they that set up a heap of teachers 2 Tim. 4.3 after their own lusts and went out from the Apostles doctrine before the Apostles decease 1 John 2.19 and have turned the grace of God that brings salvation into wantonnesse ever since and saith it hath not appeared unto all men which brings salvation which is saving grace and Christ Jesus doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world that they might believe and walke after him and saith they that follow him shall not abide in darknesse but shall become the children of light and have the light of life John 8.12 Now say they that hate the light it is not sufficient it is not a saving light but they shall find it sufficient to condemme them and their unbeliefe for not believing in it for believing in it they come to have the light of life John 8.12 and John 12.36 Pr. He being asked who were hirelings if they were not that did take hire his answer was they were hirelings that did not take hire and to prove it he brought that scripture in Philipians of them that preached Christ of envy and strife Answ Now all may see what doctrine he brings to pervert or rest the scriptures Philip. 1.15 to prove them hirelings that do not take hire that in the Philipians doth not prove that they were hirelings neither did they take hire so that for his purpose makes nothing though for this purpose he brings that scripture but that his folly and darknesse might appeare and be made manifest by the light for now to it his deeds are come who is unfit to talke of the scripture Pr. He said it was the cleare mark of the Devil to go up and down from place to place to preach as the Quakers doe Answ Now here in this he may charge all the prophets Christ and his Apostles which went up and downe from place to place Heb. 11. that this is the marke of the Devill but this is too manifest to bring to light and discover the Presbyterian Priests of Scotland who lies in Dens and Corners and fat benefits and there stick in the earth and are crept into houses who say it is the Devills marke to go up and downe to preach but this is that they may manifest themselves to be judged by the practice of Christ and his Apostles that their folly might appear unto all men Luke 9.5.8 Heb. 11. likewise the Presbyterian Priest are turned like ranters who saith whatsoever man doth God hath a hand in doing of it whether Good or Evil if a man commit never so much sinne and live never so wickedly he shall go to Heaven if he be ordained there to come how was God greived when David sinned the Lord was angry the Lord was wrath when the children of Israel sinned against him it greived the Lord that he had made man when all flesh had corrupted his way Gen. 6.6 and thou and you go about to make God the author of sin and saith God hath a hand in it whatsoever a man doth here again you and thou be in the doctrines of Devils what shall we say that God is the author of sin God forbid Rom. 6. they that transgresse the commandments of God provoke him to anger and though God created the evil Isa 49.7 yet his commandments was to man that he should not go into it Gen. 2.17 Gen. 4.7 Ezek. 18. but when he did he transgressed the command of God so he who saith if ye murther God is the author of it if ye persecute God is the author of it if ye do unrighteously God is the author of it you that murther persecute and do not righteously are of him that kept not the command of God of whom ye are Joh. 44. that would persecute and murther thou art gone out of the command of God and joyned with the Devil 1 John 3.8 that went out of the truth the Devil he went out of his estate and the woman hearkned to him and went out of her estate and man to the woman Gen. 3. The Jews went out of their state when they persecuted Mat. 27.25 Cain went out of his state when he murthered Gen. 4. The Christians went out of their estate fince the daies of persecution who had the name of Christianity Cain went out of his state when he murthered and Balaam went out of his state when he coveted the wages of unrighteousness and admired mens persons Numb 22. Jude 11. Core went out of his state when he gain-said the truth Num. 16. Jude 11. the false Prophet and the Antichrist which is the Beast and the mother of Harlots went forth from the state of the Apostles 1 John 2.19 which hath been fince the daies of the Apostles and so all wars and fightings and adversaries is because of being out of the truth fallen out of it James 4. there is pride and Lucifer Isai 14. and that is it that is of old ordained to condemnation Jude 4. and to be kept down and to be condemned everlastingly and there the time that shall be witnessed fit for the fire and Death and Hell and the false Prophet and the Dragon and the Serpent cast into it Rev. 20.14 but leaven is known that leavens into the new lump 1 Cor. 5.7 the everlasting fire that burns for ever Mark 9.46 how are the professions formes and religions fallen from the state and lost the state and out of the state that Christ was in the Prophets were in Abraham was in David was in Moses and the Apostles was in and remains in a form of their
John Hambleton Alexander Hambleton Barbara Hambleton Jennet Hambleton Andrew Hambleton Jane Hambleton Katherine Hart Katherine Hambleton John Allen Jane Hambleton William Hambleton Margaret Hambleton John Hart Jennet Atkin John Hart Alexander Hart Jane Hart Gawine Hart John Lacock Jennet Brown Thomas Craiqqe John Torrens Katherine Hambleton Katherine Weare Jennet Wear were excommunicated by Matthew Mackel and the rest of the Presbytery at Hambleton for these causes as followeth 1. Pr. You affirm that the Scriptures are not the word of God Ans The Scriptures are the words of God Christ is the Word and the Scriptures are not Christ 2. Pr. You affirm that there is no rule according to which a man should walk but the rule within him Ans The Spirit is the rule into all truth and not the Scripture it self Pr. 3. You affirm that every man hath a light sufficient to lead him to Christ within him Ans Yea 2 Cor. 4. the light that shines in his heart will give him the knowledge of the glory of God Pr. 4. You affirm that the Scriptures are not to be preached Ans That is false but they are not to be made a trade of by you Pr. 5. You affirm that there is no blessing pronounced to the preaching of the word Ans Not to you that make a trade of the words but they that preach the word has the blessing for Christ gives the wo to you Matth. 23. Pr. 6. You affirm that the Ministry is no standing Ordinance of Jesus Christ Ans VVe affirm that Christ must preach the Gospel but we deny you who preach for filthy lucre whose Ordination is by man and not by Christ Pr. 7 You affirm that no man that hath faith hath sin Ans VVe affirm that faith purifieth the heart and gives victory over sin which faith you say is not pure and curses them that says it is Pr. 8 You affirm that there is no external means to be followed in order to salvation Ans That which is the means to salvation is eternal Pr. 9. You affirm these to be Ministers of the man of sin and reprobates concerning the faith that sayes whilest a man is on the earth he cannot be set free from sin Ans We say yea we do so which is according to the Apostles Doctrine which says they were made free-from sin and they spake wisdome to them that were perfect and they were sanctified Pr. 10. You affirm no Sabbath Day to be observed Ans Neither do you your selves but what you invent and you do not keep that well neither but Christ the Sabbath we own Pr. 11. You are deserters of all publike Ordinances Ans The Ordinances of Christ we are not but mans Inventions we are Pr. 12. You rail against the Dispensers of publike Ordinances and those that countenance those Ordinances Ans Railing we deny but declaring against any invention of man we own and railing is your own for your Pulpits declares it that they should neither buy nor sell eat nor drink with them in the Nation These Accusations were Extracted and Subscribed by the Priests Clark in this manner following Mr. John Bonave And after the Priests had excommunicated the aforesaid persons they caused a general Synod to meet at Glasgow and made an Order and published it in all their Old Mass-Houses That none of those People called Quakers should have any entertainment and that no people should have any dealing with them in any civil affairs not to give cursed men work as they stiled our Friends and hindering men to work for them and that under the pain of Excommunication The extent of which Order is That they should neither buy nor sell eat nor drink with them in the Nation Peter Kid Priest of Dauglass summoned William Michell and Robert Todd to their Presbytery at Leanarick and when William Michel appeared before them him whom they called Moderator whose name is William Jack Priest of Carlook commanded him to take off his Bonnet and when he refused Richard Gollon Bayliff of the Town who sate amongst them to execute their malice rose up in rage and took it off his head and the Priests would not let him give it him again but keeps it still from him and he staying in Town all night and a friend of his called Richard Ray the Priest and Bayliff of the Town came about the tenth hour of the night to the Inne where they lay and charged the people of the house to put them out notwithstanding they kept one of their Bonnets and the night was very stormy Witnesses of this James White Agnas Forrest And here is the Priests fruits Peter Kidd summoned William Michell and Mary English to the quarter Sessions at Hambleton but did not appear to lay any thing to their Charge when they came back againe Mary English went to him and asked him why he summoned them and did not appear to make known what he had against them but he answered not one word but his wife and servants beat and abused her cruelly Here is your fruits again William Stockdale and John Boweran being moved of the Lord to declare the truth in the Market-place of Strahavan on a Market-day were cruelly abused and many times knockt down with staves and stones and violently drawn out of the town by the wicked people William Stockdale and John Gill with many others having a Meeting in the Grave-Yard in Strahavan on a Market-day a company of the Priests Hearers came and fell upon them with staves and stones and broke up the Meeting and stoned them above a quarter of a mile out of the Town insomuch that some blood was spilt and many was sore bruised Richard Ismead for bidding James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton prove himself a Minister of Christ was apprehended by the Bayliff and was imprisoned in the Tole-booth of Hambleton and after was scarryed to a Justices Court at Glasgow who commanded him to be set in the Stocks and a Gag put in his mouth and a Paper pinned on his Brest and made an Order for him to depart the Nation William Stockdale being moved of the Lord to go to the Steeple-house of Damanoy and as he stood in the Yard declaring the Truth and against their Idolatrous Worship the Priest came who did encourage the people to beat him whereupon some of his Elders and other wicked people violently knokt him down and set their feet upon him and plucked much hair off his head insomuch that some people cried he is kild and if the power of the Lord had not born him up which bears up the heads of his Lambs whom he sends forth in the midst of Wolves when they are persecuted he had died amongst them for he was not able to speak neither to rise a certain time after off the ground William Jack Priest of Carlook said to the people of Lismahagow in his preaching as followeth Beloved If you will contribute and some of you give a six pence and others a shilling that
you cannot deceive the Nations any more as ye have done Again the Priests of the Presbytery belonging to Glascow made a fast and excommunicated these persons viz. William Gray and James Findly and charged people not to let them come into their houses commanding them to have no commerse with them in buying nor selling nor borrowing nor lending and James Findly being a Smith they charged people that they should not work with him for if they did they should be excommuicated also and Henry Foreside Priest of that parish again told them that it was acted in the presbytery that if any work any longer work that pertaines to the Smiths trade with James Findly they should be excommnicants and should not parake with any of his Church-Ordinances as marriage sprinkling the children and communion of bread and wine which act several of the people murmures under but say they must obey it contrary to their minds because they cannot bear the Priests wrath Again John Burnett Priest of Kilbrid charged his hearers to have no dealings in civil affaires with these people called Quakers that were excommunicated and he summoned such to his Sessions which had eaten or drunken bought or sold with them requiring them to make publick confession before the people that they had given offence in so doing c. Again Robert Paul one of the Priests elders said he would convert James Findly and his doctrine to convert him by was this That the Scripture was the word And secondly That the Scriptures was God Thirdly That the Scriptures is the way to the Kingdom of Heaven and no other under Heaven Fourthly That the scriptures is the Holy Ghost that the Father promised that he would send that should reprove the world of sin c. Ans If he had said that the Scripture is that which testifie of these things that doctrine had bin more like to have converted for the scripture saith That the word was in the begining before scripture was and it saith that Christ is the way and there is no other Name under Heaven by which men shall be saved but by Christ it doth not say that by no other name but the scripture so that all such doctrine will pervert people from God and not convert them to God And the same Robert Paul said he would respect mens persons and that he would never be free from fin neither was it possible Answ How can thou do any other but respect persons and commit sin while thou denyes God to be God and Christ to be the way and would make the scriptures both to be God and the way to God and would make them the spirit the gift of the Father but herein thou art blind and leads none but the blind and doth pervert and not convert for thou art ignorant of that which convinceth the world of sin yet which is the Spirit of truth which the scripture testifies of but that thou must first come to know to convince thee of and to condemn thy darkness before thou do either convince or convert any unto God James Gartsore Priest said they loved God which keeped not his commandements Answ Which is contrary to the Apostles doctrine which saith If any man saith that he loves God and keeps not his Commandments he is a lyar and the truth is not in him and hereby do we know wee love God because wee keepe his commandements 1 John 2.3 4. and his Commandements are not grievous but joyous And Christ saith Why call ye me Lord and doth not the thing that I command you so that none loves God but he who keeps his Commandements and abideth in him and he that abideth in him sinneth not 1 John 3.6 Peter Kid Priest of Douglasse said Put a man in never such a close place his soule will run like a post horse Answ Thou shewest that thou art ignorant of the soul and never knew what it was nor knowes how to Minister to it nor how to watch over it But if thou had seen thine own condition thou might have said that thy vain thoughts and wandring imaginations runs to and fro in the earth and thy mind is not staid upon God and art not come to know the first principal of the the time Religion that which should stay thy mind upon God so thou art to wait to be taught and not to teach William Simerwell Priest of Petinance said that Christ died for the Elect and godly people of the world and not for the Turks and Pagans and Barbarians c. Answ Christ died for sinners according to the Scriptures Rom. 5.8 And he came to call sinners to repentance not the righteous or godly Mat. 9.13 And Christ died for all 2 Cor. 5.14 15. And is the propitiation for our sins saith the Apostle that was the believers and not for ours onely but for the sins of the whole World and the Gospel is to be preached to every Creature and remission of sins in his Name to Turks Pagans and Barbarians So herein thou hast shewed that thou was never made a Minister of the Gospel unto any neither knoweth what the Gospel is to be Ministred unto so therefore be silent and learn no more to blaspheme God and his truth as thou hast done Again Priest Simerwell saith Christ calls all men every where to repent but he will not that all should Repent Answ Here thou would make Christ a deceiver and so hath manifested thy selfe to be Antichrist what doth Christ call men to do that which he would not have them to do What is there any guile to be found in his mouth would thou go about to turne the truth of the Scriptures into a lye which saith That God wills that all men should come to the knowledge of the truth that they might be saved and thou here hath charged Christ foolishly and falsly in saying that he calls them to do that which he would not have them to do when he calls all men every where to Repent The Priest of the Presbytery belonging to Glascow summoned James Findly and William Gray to be examined by him for Heresy as they say and when they appeared they shut the door and would let none hear their examination manifesting themselves to be in darknesse and afraid to bring their deeds to the Light left their deceipts should have been laid open and reproved but they would not answere untill the doors were set open and all people to here that would come in Truth is bold and seeks no Corners They Priests affirmed that the Light which every one is enlightened withall is naturall c. Answ Here they manifest their ignorance of the life of Christ which is spirituall whose life is the light of men and this is the true light that lighteth every man that comes into the world and this light is pure that Christ doth enlighten every one withall and whosoever doth truth love the Light and brings his deeds to the light to be proved and by the Light
is lead to life but every one that doth evill hateth the light and will not bring his deeds to the light lest they should be reproved and so the light is his condemnation John 3.18 19 20 21. They affirmed That Christ died not for all contrary to the Scripture 2 Cor. 5.15 as abovesaid They say that the Scripture is the Word of God which is but a Declaration of the Word Luke 1.1 And Christ his Name is called the Word of God Rev. 19.13 The Scriptures are words of God and Christ is the Word that fulfils and ends the words They affirmed That men and women and Children should be condemned for Adams Transgression c. contrary to the Scripture which saith The Children shall not bear the iniquity of their Fathers nor the Fathers the Childrens but every one shall give an account of himself and every one shall bear his own burden They affirmed That none could be perfect on this side the Grave and that a Ohilde of God cannot be perfect as to have no sinne at all Answ Contrary to the Scripture Mat. 5.48 Where Christ saith Be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect And Christ doth 〈…〉 nor command impossible things and the Apostle saith We speak wisdome amongst them that are perfect 1 Cor. 2. And let as many as are perfect be thus minded and the Childe of God is perfect and without sinne for whosoever is borne of God doth not commit sinne and his seed remaines in him and he cannot sinne because be is born of God 1 John 3.8 9. It is as impossible for him that is born of God to commit sinne as it is impossible for him who is born of the Devil to cease from sinne They affirmed That none was Ministers of Christ but such as wait for an ordinary and mediate call from Men. Answ Contrary to the Scripture which saith The things of God knowes no man but the Spirit of God And contrary to Pauls Call who saith Not of man nor by man but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ for he neither received of man neither was he taught it but it was given to him of God and this was the Gospell he preached Christ within the hope of Glory and if any bring another let them be accursed 1 Cor. 2. Gal. 1.1.12 Colos 1. They affirmed That an oath was lawfull to be taken of men and women Answ Contrary to Christs Command Mat. 5. who saith Swear not at all c. and contrary to the Apostles Doctrine James 5.12 who saith Above all things my Brethren swear not neither by Heaven nor by Earth nor by any other Oath but let your yea be yea and your nay nay lest ye fall into Condemnation They affirmed That Bread and Wine is the Communion with Christ Answ John and the Saints had Communion with God and his Son Jesus Christ and their Fellowship was in the Light For saith he if we walk in the Light as he is in the light then have we fellowship one with another and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin 1 John 1.5 7. And they who are in the Light have fellowship with Christ and receives every thing in the purity from the Lord but they that hate the Light they remain in darknesse and every thing to them is accursed to the unbelieving and disobedient their is nothing pure but even their mind and conscience is defiled They affirmed that sprinkling Infants is an Ordinance of Christ when as Christ never ordained such a thing and their is no Scripture for it let the Priests of Scotland or any of their brethren in England prove it if they can They affirmed it was lawfull for them be called of men Master Answ Contrary to Christ his expresse words in Mat. 23.8.10 be not ye called of men Master c. They affirmed Tythes to be lawfull for Ministers now shewing themselves to be Antichristian dark and blind denying Christ Jesus to be come in the flesh and saying that is lawful which Christ hath disannulled and made void and there is no Law in the new testament that doth allow of Tythes to be paid to a Gospel Ministry therefore not lawful These are some of the false Doctrines and Principles of the Presbyterians about Glasgow Whereby it was plainly manifest that they are guilty of heresy and are heriticks which they would charge upon others But true Light now shineth which maketh deceipt and deceivers manifest Henry Foreside said in the hearing of several people that Christ was not in the Apostle Paul c. Contrary to Pauls words in Gal. 1. After it pleased God who separated me from my mothers womb and called me by his Grace to reveal his Son in me c. and in 2 Cor. 13. Ye seek a proofe of Christ speaking in me and Christ in you the hope of Glory Col. 1. and Jesus Christ is in you except ye be reprobates Peter Kid Priest of Douglasse said to preach that people should walk according to the Light and law within them is the Doctrine of Devils Answ Paul and other of the Apostles and Saints and true Christians who believed in Christ had the Light shining in them and the Law in them and the Spirit in them and God and Christ dwelt in them for their bodies were made Temples of the Holy Ghost as the Scriptures declare and the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus had made the Apostle free from the law of sin and death and saith John these things I write unto you that your fellowship may be with us and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ This was the Doctrine of Christ to bring people to Light Law life and spirit within to worship God in spirit and in truth and all who draw out and lead people from this are deceivers and their Doctrine is devilish William Somerwell Priest said It was ill manners to to say thee and thou to a man c. Contrary to the Scripture which all along doth give thee and thou to a particular not onely unto man though never so great in the world but also to God himself and unto Christ William Morton Priest of Wonstone summoned James Simmonton to his Sessions and being required to prove his Ministry he said he scorned to prove himself a Minister of Christ Contrary to the Scripture which saith be ready to give account of the hope that is in you with meeknesse and fear to every one that shall aske you And when he was told of taking hire for his preaching contrary to Christ his Commission who saith Freely ye have received freely give then the Priest arose in arage and called him base-born beggarly raskall contrary to the Apostles Doctrine who saith Let no corrupt communication come out of your mouth William Stockdale being in the Steeple-house of Lesmahagow where John Lum Priest thereof was preaching and he being writing some of his lyes the Priest cryed out and said There