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A62014	The XXXVI questions propounded for resolution of unlearned Protestants in matter of religion to the doctors of the prelaticall pretended reformed-Church of England, retorted for resolution on unlearned papists in matter of religion, to V.H. and V.N. doctors of the pretended Catholick Church of Rome / by T. Svvadlin ...	Swadlin, Thomas, 1600-1670.	1659 (1659)	Wing S6228; ESTC R38289	40,246	62

that our Saviour had appointed Pastors and Teachers till the day of judgement as a means to preserve Christian people from being carryed about with every wind of Doctrine cannot be understood disjunctively For then if those Pastors preserved them from being seduced in one onely point of Christian Doctrine it would not be true that they preserved them from being carryed about with every wind of Doctrine but they must be understood Conjunctively that is that they preserve them from being carryed away with any wind of Doctrine whatsoever which should chance to be buzzed into their Eares by false Teachers now seeing such winds of erroneous Doctrine are raised as well in points which Protestants account not fundamentall as in fundamentals the meaning of the Apostle then must be that by meanes of these Pastors Christians be preserved from following any Error in Faith whether it be fundamentall or not fundamentall and consequently that they can assuredly direct them to eschew all Errors in Faith which they could not do if they themselves were subject to teach them any Errors or seduce them by any winde of Doctrine whatsoever Seeing also that St. Paul in the same place Eph. 4.10 tells us that the said Pastors are to Consummate the Saints and to build up the Mysticall body of Christ I demand whether the Apostle by these words make not those Pastors able to secure Christian people from Error not onely in the Foundation as Protestants terme it but in superstructures also for otherwise they would have been instituted by our Saviour onely to found his Mysticall body the Church but not to build it up and to ground and initiate the Saints but not to Consummate them Sir Answ 21 whether your exposition of St. Pauls Text Eph. 4.14 be current or not is a Question if it be why may not the words be undestood disjunctively as well as conjunctively Your own Predecessors the Romanists thought so where they say upon these words the use of spirituall Governors not all Pastors and Teachers is to keep us in the Unity and constancy of the Catholick Faith that we be not carryed away with the blast and wind of every Heresie and there are Errors and windes of Doctrine besides Heresies which is a proper note of Sects and new Doctrine which trouble the infirme weaklings of this Church as sometimes the Arrians then the Manichees then the Nestorians then the Latherans and Calvinists and such like so the Rhemists they might have left the last out as being yet uncondemned of Heresie but you will have the words understood Conjunctively That the people be preserved from being carryed away with any wind of Doctrine whatsoever and if this be granted you what get you by it more then Turpe est Doctori for I pray what Pastors or Teachers have carryed about silly people with such windes and kindes of Doctrine as these That Christ descended onely in Limbum Patrum a higher part of Hell That some sinners go into Purgatory a side part of Hell That half a Sacrament is enough contrary to Christs Institution and the Catholick Churches practise for 1000. years That the intention of the Priest is of the essence of Baptism That worship is due to Images That there is a Transubstantiation a conversion of the Bread and Wine into the Body and Blood of Christ corporally I forbear a new Creed made at the no general or lawful Council of Trent and many more such winds of Doctrine wherewith you have carried about some souls To your other Text Eph. 4.10 and your demand upon it whether the Apostle by these words To consumniate the Saints and to build up the Mystical body of Christ make not those Pastors able to secure Christian people from error not onely in the foundation but in the superstructures also Sure I think not for the Apostle himself was enabled by God and so are all Pastors that do their duty conscientiously The Apostle onely tels the succeeding Pastors their duty and wo to them if they do it not he enables them not to do it If it should be answered Quest 22 that these and such like promises or institutions of Christ are onely conditional that is truly intended on his part but yet may be frustrated by the malice of such as correspond not to his intention and therefore though he intend that these Pastors should perform the said Offices in the Church yet that it involved this condition if they were not wanting on their parts but by their failing the institution of Christ is made frustrate and of no effect I answer to this prophane and unchristian Objection first that if Christs promises and institutions be thus inefficacious and conditional that notwithstanding the promises that Christ hath made for the preservation of his Church yet by the malice of Christians or others the whole Christian Church may utterly fail and come to nothing Secondly that it may erre even in fundamental points contrary to the Doctrine of Protestants and so become a Synagogue of Satan Thirdly that the ancient Promises of the coming of the Messias of the REdemption of Mankind of the saving of some at the last Judgement c. have no absolute certainty in them and so by the malice of men might have been or may be frustrated Fourthly that by this there is no certain credit to be given to any Promise or Institution of God or Christ in the whole Old or New Testament for a thousand different conditions may be invented which not being performed or put the prediction failes Thus one may say upon the like grounds that as the promises of benefits and blessings may be hindred by the malice and demerits of wicked persons so the threats thundrings of punishments upon sinners may be hindred by the vertues and good works of Saints and because we have no rule to know what proportion of goodness or malice is sufficient to frustrate such predictions we remain wholly uncertain whether they shall be absolutely verified or no unless therefore this principle be setled that all divine Institutions and Predictions are to be held absolute and never to be frustrated whensoever it is not evidently apparent that they are conditional and may be hindred there can be no certainty that any Institution or prediction in the whole Scripture shall be absolutely fulfilled Seeing therefore it is not evident that this institution Eph. 4. c. and others of the same nature concerning the Church are conditionall they are to be supposed to be absolute and not to be frustrated by any malice of men whatsoever Fifthly no Protestants who hold the whole visible Church cannot perish nor all the Pastors prove wilfull Seducers can apply this answer to the Text now cited viz. Eph. 4. c. for if it be hindered by the malice of the said Pastors they must with joynt consent maliciously teach false Doctrine to be the Doctrine of Christ which were to teach fundamentall Errors and to fall off from Christ If this

never simpler men for gifts nor worse-disposed men for attempts And now against this Council against us we oppose four Councils for us against you The second of Ephesus the second of Constantinople that of Eliberis and the fourth of Carthage The great Council of Lateran I conceive it alledged for the matter of Transubstantiation and here I note the Antiquity of this Council It was called in the Year 1215. so old is Transubstantiation no older and against this we oppose all Councils and Fathers silence before and before all the institution of Christ himself who sayes The flosh profiteth no thing my words are spirit and the Exposition of this Institution of all Writers until this Council The Council of Constance I conceive it alledged for communion in one kind against which I need not say more than what Gelasius Bishop of Rome it self said Sine grandi Sacrilegio fieri non potest it was high Sacriledge to do it unless you will give me leave to adde Christs own Precept Drink you all of this all Laity as well as Clergy The Council of Florence I conceive it alleadged for Purgatory called Anno 1438. and if I am right in this Contecture I need not say more then what A●phonsus à Castro l. 8. adv Heres verbo Indulgentia hath said the mention of Purgatory in ancient writers is almost none at all and if you will be pleased to name any one Father save Origen untill St. Gregory the Great his time that is direct for Purgatory I shall not much stand upon it since I think it will not much hinder any mans Salvation to believe it or disbelieve it for my part I neither do nor dare nor will believe it The Council of Trent called Anno 1563. I conceive it alleadged for all differences whatsoever betwixt the Romans and Protestants which Council if you can prove was either lawfull generall or free which I yet positively deny in each I shall sit down and in this Council I tell you were not many Holy Patriarchs Metropolitans Archbishops Bishops not one of the Eastern Church and you know the reason of it too For proofes of Learning if the Church of England be not comparable to you in number she hath exceeded you in weight and that this world knowes and you have felt and now you by your policy make the Churchmen of England smart for it For your universall esteem of Sanctity with your Gregory Beda Thomas Bonaventure Antonine Dominick to avoide some stories of some of them The Church of England can produce as great a Cloud of witnesses by the Verdict of all unbyassed men in an Andrewes a Bucheridge a Laud a Montague a Hall a Prideaux and diverse others before them a Jewell a Whitgift a Cranmer a Latimer a Ridley Speak not too much of your zelous passing into barbarous Nations to convert them lest the Indean be brought out of Love with Heaven if the Roman go thither And for our Ministry with their Wives Goods and Families we have little left thanks to you or some as bad as you they can apply themselves to Study and Devotion as well and with less sin then your single Clergy and retired Religions Boast not too much of your unanimous consent untill your Dominicans and Franciscans be at peace about the immaculate Conception of the blessed Virgin untill your Jesuites and Dominicans be at peace about the Aids and Operations of Grace untill Bannes and Lessius be at peace in the sad point of absolute Reprobation untill your Doctors of Sorbon and Lovaine be at peace about the Popes Supremacy untill Venice and Rome be all at peace about the Popes power untill the French and Spanish Papists be at peace about an equality of Subjection to the Pope untill 〈◊〉 ●regory the first and Gregory the seventh be by some 〈◊〉 your selves reconciled about the Title of Vniversalis Episcopus untill all of you be reconciled about the Popes infallibility untill all and every one of you tell the world whether Translation of the Bible by Sextus the first or Clement the eight be the best cum multis aliis quae nunc perscribere longum est For miracles to confirm our Doctrine against yours we need none untill you by a new miracle turne Rome as it is into Rome as it was and then we all meet in an incomparable Authority of one Catholick Church Whether hence be not evidently discovered not onely the insufferable Pride of Luther Quest 31 and the other Originall beginners of any Sect in Protestancy in preferring their sole Authority before that of the Prelates and Doctors of all the visible Churches in Christendom existent when they begun first to preach their Doctrine but the extreme madness of all the ignorant Laity who followed them upon their sole Authority and preferred one single person upon his bare word without any extraordinary signes or manifest proofes from Heaven attesting his Authority before all the Doctors Prelates Councils Churches within the precincts of Christendom both of that present time and for 900. years before And if those were infected with so deep a frensie how can any man be adjudged deservedly discreet and prudent who approves of their proceedings in this particular and sides with them at least in some Article of other in the opposition of the whole Christian world as all Protestants do even to this day Rarely spoken Answ 31 and a fair way to catch birds The insufferable Pride of Luther if he were guilty of it let him answer for it and all other Originall beginners of any Sect in Protestancy Sir it is very well known who said This Sect is every where spoken against yet for all that that very Sect over-spread it self and conquered the whole world and this very Sect of Protestancy hath put a fair beginning to the Conquest of the Roman Doctrine which though now like that Sect under the ten Persecutio● 〈◊〉 somewhat eclipsed hath yet so much light left as to discerne between all the visible Churches in Christendom all Doctors Prelates Councils Churches within the precincts of Christendom and the present Roman and claim none for our beginners but Christ and his Apostles the four Generall Councils and the Primitive Fathers and the Church of Rome it self as it was when it was Catholick and therefore think they are to be judged deservedly discreet and prudent who approve our present Doctrines with the whole Christian world and desert the present Roman Hence I farther demand Quest 32 That seeing on one side the true Christian Religion having the divine Wisdom for its Authority cannot admit of any thing imprudent as properly belonging to it in the choyce of it and on the other side That the Protestant Religion or any Sect whatsoever sprung from it or existent in it cannot be prudently chosen by any unlearned person who is sufficiently informed of the nullity of that Authority which propounds it compared with the Authority propounding the Roman Religion whether I say those