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doctrine_n of_o baptism_n and_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n now_o this_o be_v not_o likely_a to_o be_v understand_v of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n in_o heal_a sick_a person_n or_o bestow_v the_o holy_a ghost_n for_o these_o be_v extraordinary_a or_o miraculous_a and_o therefore_o not_o to_o be_v put_v in_o the_o number_n of_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o oracle_n of_o god_n the_o foundation_n milk_n for_o babe_n nor_o of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o ordination_n to_o special_a function_n in_o the_o church_n for_o that_o though_o ordinary_a yet_o not_o likely_a to_o be_v put_v among_o the_o principle_n the_o foundation_n milk_n for_o babe_n therefore_o it_o remain_v that_o it_o be_v the_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n on_o child_n former_o baptize_v in_o infancy_n which_o though_o corrupt_o make_v a_o sacrament_n by_o papist_n and_o superstitious_o abuse_v yet_o be_v free_v from_o the_o
abuse_n be_v very_o useful_a as_o be_v a_o apostolical_a ordinance_n from_o this_o text_n and_o manifest_v that_o there_o be_v infant-baptisme_n in_o the_o apostle_n day_n which_o be_v confirm_v because_o it_o be_v couple_v with_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o consequent_a upon_o it_o answ_n 1._o there_o be_v great_a incertainty_n what_o this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n mention_v heb._n 6.2_o serve_v for_o the_o reason_n approve_v that_o it_o can_v not_o be_v either_o for_o heal_v or_o give_v the_o holy_a ghost_n because_o they_o be_v miraculous_a or_o extraordinary_a be_v not_o cogent_a for_o though_o they_o be_v by_o more_o than_o ordinary_a power_n yet_o be_v they_o frequent_v in_o those_o time_n and_o may_v well_o be_v put_v among_o the_o element_n to_o be_v in_o those_o day_n first_o learn_v nor_o be_v the_o reason_n cogent_a to_o prove_v it_o can_v not_o be_v the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n in_o ordination_n for_o special_a function_n in_o the_o church_n for_o it_o be_v more_o likely_a that_o it_o shall_v be_v mean_v which_o it_o be_v certain_a be_v still_o in_o use_n and_o to_o continue_v to_o be_v use_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v needful_a to_o be_v teach_v youngling_n as_o well_o as_o the_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n then_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n for_o confirmation_n of_o baptism_n of_o which_o there_o be_v no_o certainty_n though_o pretend_a example_n in_o scripture_n be_v bring_v to_o give_v some_o colour_n to_o it_o nor_o be_v imposition_n of_o hand_n in_o ordination_n unfit_o couple_v to_o baptism_n both_o be_v ordinance_n for_o initiation_n the_o one_o into_o the_o profession_n of_o christ_n the_o other_o into_o sacred_a function_n 2._o but_o if_o it_o be_v suppose_v that_o this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n mean_v hebr._n 6.2_o be_v on_o the_o the_o baptise_a yet_o this_o prove_v not_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n in_o the_o apostle_n day_n unless_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v use_v after_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n 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do_v assert_v that_o use_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n from_o scripture_n that_o he_o allege_v not_o hebr._n 6.2_o for_o it_o but_o the_o example_n of_o give_v the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o first_o answer_n animadver_n animadver_n that_o our_o reason_n to_o prove_v imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o healing_n or_o give_v the_o holy_a ghost_n can_v be_v mean_v hebr._n 6.2_o because_o those_o be_v extraordinary_a be_v not_o say_v mr_n t._n a_o cogent_a reason_n we_o reply_v first_o that_o mr_n t._n do_v by_o and_o by_o as_o good_a as_o confess_v it_o be_v a_o cogent_a reason_n for_o while_o mr_n t._n go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n here_o mention_v be_v for_o ordination_n because_o it_o be_v still_o in_o use_n and_o to_o continue_v to_o be_v use_v he_o justify_v our_o reason_n that_o healing_n and_o give_v the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v not_o to_o continue_v because_o extraordinary_a and_o so_o not_o put_v here_o among_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n 2_o will_v any_o ingenuous_a man_n weigh_v and_o ponder_v thing_n say_v that_o mr_n t._n his_o answer_n be_v cogent_a namely_o that_o those_o miraculary_a thing_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o heal_v and_o that_o kind_a of_o give_v the_o holy_a ghost_n because_o usual_a only_o in_o that_o little_a time_n of_o the_o apostle_n shall_v be_v join_v with_o and_o put_v among_o the_o first_o principle_n of_o christian_a religion_n to_o be_v teach_v young_a one_o to_o fit_v they_o for_o baptism_n or_o to_o give_v a_o account_n of_o their_o faith_n after_o baptism_n or_o whether_o that_o reason_n of_o mr_n t._n be_v cogent_a that_o little_a child_n shall_v be_v teach_v as_o one_o of_o the_o first_o element_n of_o the_o christian_n say_v the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n to_o ordain_v minister_n this_o rather_o shall_v belong_v to_o the_o go_v on_o unto_o perfection_n as_o the_o apostle_n speak_v v._o 1._o nor_o be_v mr_n t._n his_o reason_n cogent_a that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o ordination_n shall_v be_v join_v with_o baptism_n both_o be_v ordinance_n for_o initiation_n which_o like_v the_o papist_n well_o that_o make_v imposition_n a_o sacrament_n and_o see_v it_o so_o well_o cope_v and_o couple_v with_o a_o sacrament_n by_o mr_n t._n for_o first_o and_o first_o or_o initiation_n in_o its_o great_a latitude_n do_v not_o so_o assimilate_v baptism_n be_v the_o initiation_n for_o all_o at_o their_o first_o solemn_a entrance_n into_o the_o church_n that_o imposition_n for_o ordination_n do_v initiate_v but_o few_o that_o be_v minister_n and_o that_o into_o a_o office_n and_o long_o after_o they_o be_v member_n we_o may_v as_o well_o couple_n marriage_n with_o the_o first_o principle_n of_o religion_n which_o be_v to_o be_v do_v by_o invocation_n upon_o god_n and_o instruction_n out_o of_o the_o word_n do_v first_o initiate_v most_o single_a people_n into_o the_o honour_n and_o authority_n to_o govern_v child_n and_o family_n to_o serve_v god_n clearly_n enough_o to_o mr_n t._n his_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o admission_n to_o the_o lord_n supper_n will_v better_o cope_v together_o both_o appertain_v to_o mature_a grow_v christian_n 2_o we_o answer_v to_o this_o first_o answer_n of_o mr_n tomb_n that_o a_o naked_a honest_a explanation_n of_o the_o text_n blow_v all_o mr_n t._n his_o mist_n away_o and_o clear_v the_o text_n and_o discover_v that_o these_o answer_n of_o his_o be_v but_o shift_n in_o lay_v open_o which_o meaning_n i_o hope_v learned_a and_o pious_a mr_n pareus_n calvin_n bullinger_n marlorat_n hoffman_n which_o be_v no_o independent_o will_v weigh_v as_o much_o as_o mr_n tomb_n who_o all_o tell_v we_o the_o sum_n of_o all_o approve_a antiquity_n to_o save_v our_o labour_n of_o pester_v the_o vulgar_a reader_n with_o the_o gibberish_n of_o quotation_n pareus_n upon_o hebr._n 6.2_o some_o say_v he_o conjoin_v the_o two_o head_n of_o baptism_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n because_o as_o there_o be_v two_o rank_n of_o catechumeni_fw-la that_o be_v chatechise_v person_n so_o there_o be_v a_o two_o fold_v initiate_a ceremony_n 1_o those_o of_o ripe_a year_n of_o the_o heathen_a who_o do_v before_o their_o baptism_n recite_v the_o article_n of_o the_o creed_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o this_o be_v that_o the_o apostle_n call_v the_o catechise_n or_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n 2_o the_o infant_n of_o christian_n who_o by_o the_o right_n of_o the_o promise_n be_v baptize_v in_o their_o infancy_n after_o they_o be_v past_o their_o childhood_n be_v receive_v into_o the_o church_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n at_o which_o time_n they_o rehearse_v the_o same_o article_n of_o faith_n before_o the_o church_n and_o this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n so_o pareus_n calvin_n speak_v to_o the_o very_a same_o effect_n who_o word_n we_o set_v down_o at_o large_a in_o our_o 7._o chapter_n of_o this_o controversy_n mr_n hoffman_n marlorat_n bullinger_n calvin_n speak_v further_o that_o as_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v of_o a_o manifold_a use_n so_o among_o the_o rest_n it_o be_v a_o solemn_a right_n of_o pray_v by_o which_o symbol_n also_o they_o do_v approve_v the_o profession_n of_o faith_n young_a youth_n make_v so_o that_o the_o original_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n come_v down_o from_o the_o apostle_n thus_o far_o these_o learned_a man_n you_o have_v also_o before_o in_o the_o same_o 7._o chap._n of_o this_o controversy_n the_o word_n of_o mr_n cotton_n and_o his_o read_n out_o of_o antiquity_n and_o his_o reason_n that_o though_o young_a child_n be_v baptize_v yet_o be_v not_o receive_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o the_o full_a fruition_n of_o all_o church-liberty_n till_o be_v grow_v up_o they_o make_v their_o profession_n of_o faith_n and_o
ratify_v their_o covenant_n make_v in_o baptism_n and_o so_o be_v confirm_v in_o their_o church_n estate_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v therefore_o reckon_v one_o of_o the_o six_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a faith_n heb._n 6.2_o for_o it_o can_v not_o be_v a_o principle_n of_o faith_n it_o must_v be_v therefore_o a_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o church-estate_n and_o order_n so_o mr_n cotton_n with_o much_o more_o before_o recite_v chap._n 7._o now_o let_v the_o world_n judge_n whether_o these_o man_n reading_n and_o reason_n or_o mr_n tomb_n his_o strain_a gloss_n give_v we_o rightly_o the_o meaning_n of_o heb._n 6.2_o to_o mr_n t._n his_o second_o answ_n we_o reply_v first_o that_o the_o learned_a man_n afore_o quote_v give_v we_o the_o sum_n of_o antiquity_n charitatem_fw-la antiquity_n tertul_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la dehinc_fw-la manus_fw-la imponitur_fw-la per_fw-la benedictionem_fw-la etc._n etc._n cyprian_n ep._n 3._o &_o 70._o nunc_fw-la quoque_fw-la apud_fw-la nos_fw-la geritur_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la baptizantur_fw-la per_fw-la praepositos_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la offerantur_fw-la &_o per_fw-la nostram_fw-la orationem_fw-la &_o manus_fw-la impositionem_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la consequantur_fw-la august_n tract_n 6._o in_o joan._n epist_n nuac_n quidem_fw-la they_o loqui_fw-la linguis_fw-la quibus_fw-la imponuntur_fw-la manus_fw-la post_fw-la baptisnum_fw-la tamenrevera_fw-la accipere_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la &_o latenter_fw-la alque_fw-la invisibiliter_fw-la infundi_fw-la charitatem_fw-la that_o there_o be_v a_o imposition_n of_o hand_n upon_o believer_n child_n to_o confirm_v that_o baptism_n they_o have_v receive_v be_v infant_n upon_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n when_o grow_v up_o and_o to_o testify_v the_o church_n receive_v they_o now_o unto_o full_a membership_n and_o complete_a fruition_n of_o all_o church_n privilege_n as_o to_o partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o this_o the_o text_n here_o call_v the_o doctrine_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n whereas_o the_o recital_n of_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n by_o those_o that_o be_v past_a infancy_n be_v child_n of_o heathen_n fit_v they_o for_o baptism_n be_v by_o the_o apostle_n precise_o and_o distinct_o from_o the_o other_o call_v the_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n and_o be_v not_o this_o a_o proof_n sufficient_a that_o the_o common_a and_o ordinary_a imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v use_v after_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n only_o 2._o if_o mr_n t._n can_v prove_v out_o of_o antiquity_n for_o this_o text_n of_o heb._n 6.2_o have_v it_o not_o for_o he_o that_o a_o ceremony_n of_o impose_v hand_n upon_o the_o ripe_a age_v child_n of_o unbelieved_a parent_n when_o the_o say_v child_n make_v confession_n of_o their_o faith_n for_o baptisine_n creep_v into_o the_o church_n this_o do_v not_o overthrow_v other_o antiquity_n much_o less_o the_o text_n of_o scripture_n that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n that_o be_v that_o impose_v of_o hand_n belong_v to_o believer_n child_n after_o they_o have_v be_v baptize_v but_o three_o to_o answer_v mr_n tomb_n his_o quotation_n of_o tertullian_n about_o this_o de_fw-fr coronâ_fw-la militis_fw-la c._n 3._o by_o the_o leave_n of_o mr_n tomb_n that_o do_v if_o not_o scorn_v so_o score_n with_o the_o nail_n in_o his_o examen_fw-la those_o antiquity_n of_o the_o father_n we_o usual_o allege_v we_o must_v tell_v the_o world_n first_o what_o a_o piece_n and_o place_n of_o tertullian_n mr_n t._n have_v here_o allege_v viz._n such_o a_o one_o as_o wherein_o tertullian_n dispute_v for_o receive_v unwritten_a tradition_n quaeramus_fw-la a_o traditio_fw-la non_fw-la scripta_fw-la debeat_fw-la recipi_fw-la etc._n etc._n say_v he_o let_v we_o inquire_v whether_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v not_o to_o be_v receive_v we_o shall_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v receive_v if_o it_o be_v not_o prejudge_v or_o fore_o determine_v by_o the_o example_n of_o other_o observation_n which_o without_o the_o instrument_n of_o any_o scripture_n or_o write_v by_o the_o title_n of_o tradition_n only_o we_o from_o thence_o defend_v under_o the_o patronage_n of_o custom_n moreover_o to_o begin_v with_o baptism_n when_o we_o be_v about_o to_o enter_v into_o the_o water_n even_o there_o but_o also_o too_o a_o little_a afore_o in_o the_o church_n under_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o bishop_n or_o prelate_n we_o bear_v witness_v or_o make_v serious_a protestation_n that_o we_o renounce_v the_o devil_n pomp_n and_o his_o angel_n after_o this_o we_o be_v plunge_v or_o drench_v or_o dip_v three_o time_n answer_v something_o more_o than_o the_o lord_n have_v determine_v in_o the_o gospel_n then_o be_v place_n be_v suscepti_fw-la which_o allude_v to_o godfather_n office_n jun._n note_v on_o the_o place_n undertake_v for_o we_o take_v a_o taste_n of_o the_o compound_n of_o milk_n and_o honey_n and_o 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