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a_o 974._o nu_fw-la 1._o bennet_n the_o sixth_o be_v imprison_v and_o murder_v by_o boniface_n that_o succeed_v he_o who_o get_v the_o popedom_n by_o violence_n 1_o violence_n an._n 975._o nu_fw-la 1_o and_o be_v again_o himself_o as_o violent_o depose_v and_o john_n the_o 15._o put_v in_o his_o room_n 1_o room_n an._n 985._o nu_fw-la 1_o but_o he_o return_v again_o and_o apprehend_v john_n imprison_v and_o murder_v he_o this_o companion_n be_v one_o of_o the_o succession_n and_o yet_o baronius_n say_v of_o he_o he_o be_v a_o villain_n and_o a_o thief_n the_o murderer_n of_o two_o pope_n the_o invader_n of_o peter_n chair_n who_o have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o one_o hair_n of_o a_o roman_a bishop_n whether_o you_o consider_v his_o entrance_n or_o go_v forward_o but_o deserve_v to_o be_v reckon_v among_o famous_a thief_n and_o ransacker_n of_o their_o country_n such_o as_o be_v sylla_n and_o catiline_n all_o who_o may_v cast_v their_o cap_n at_o this_o thief_n these_o be_v a_o few_o 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