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before_o allege_v it_o well_o appear_v and_o this_o be_v sufficient_a for_o this_o though_o other_o answer_n may_v be_v give_v also_o wherefore_o this_o remain_v that_o when_o we_o grant_v the_o descent_n of_o our_o ministry_n in_o england_n to_o come_v lineal_o from_o the_o church_n and_o pope_n of_o rome_n which_o we_o must_v grant_v will_v we_o will_v we_o if_o wedeny_v it_o to_o arise_v essential_o from_o the_o christian_a people_n consent_n in_o each_o congregation_n all_o the_o world_n see_v that_o we_o give_v the_o pope_n a_o main_a advantage_n against_o we_o and_o we_o put_v into_o his_o hand_n a_o strong_a engine_n to_o draw_v we_o back_o again_o unto_o he_o which_o also_o he_o effect_v daily_o upon_o many_o among_o we_o as_o woeful_a experience_n show_v in_o our_o land_n yea_o even_o upon_o some_o of_o my_o very_a friend_n and_o near_a acquaintance_n beside_o this_o there_o be_v another_o point_n of_o the_o church_n government_n unity_n the_o cause_v of_o unity_n namely_o their_o jurisdiction_n in_o compound_v schism_n in_o make_v peace_n and_o unity_n and_o consent_n among_o christian_a people_n which_o be_v ascribe_v as_o proper_a to_o diocesan_n and_o provincial_n bishop_n as_o they_o in_o england_n do_v say_v it_o be_v and_z as_o etc._n as_o def._n 3.36_o etc._n etc._n d._n downame_n with_o great_a vehemency_n defend_v certain_o true_a reason_n will_v carry_v it_o further_o it_o can_v not_o possible_o stay_v there_o this_o will_v serve_v a_o pope_n turn_n a_o great_a deal_n better_o and_o to_o such_o a_o one_o it_o belong_v in_o deed_n as_o a_o very_a true_a and_o forcible_a ground_n for_o his_o universal_a government_n over_o all_o christian_n in_o the_o world_n if_o there_o be_v any_o divine_a and_o evangelicall_n truth_n in_o it_o at_o all_o but_o there_o be_v no_o truth_n in_o it_o because_o this_o be_v no_o divine_a and_o evangelical_n way_n for_o unity_n in_o religion_n viz._n to_o constitute_v one_o visible_a head_n with_o absolute_a power_n of_o spiritual_a government_n whether_o diocesan_n or_o provincial_n or_o universal_a or_o to_o take_v from_o the_o christian_a people_n their_o free_a consent_n there_o be_v not_o in_o the_o gospel_n any_o such_o mean_n to_o unity_n it_o be_v a_o humane_a policy_n a_o carnal_a device_n it_o be_v no_o institution_n of_o christ_n jesus_n unity_n god_n write_v word_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o unity_n who_o in_o his_o word_n and_o by_o his_o word_n with_o the_o help_n of_o the_o ministry_n therein_o ordain_v provide_v sufficient_o for_o true_a peace_n and_o holy_a unity_n among_o all_o his_o people_n for_o he_o say_v 28.29_o say_v mat._n 28.29_o you_o err_v not_o know_v the_o scripture_n and_o 5.39_o and_o joh._n 5.39_o search_v the_o scripture_n for_o they_o be_v they_o which_o testify_v of_o i_o and_o 17._o and_o chap._n 14.6_o rom._n 16_o 17._o i_o be_o the_o way_n the_o truth_n and_o the_o life_n likewise_o the_o apostle_n testify_v that_o those_o be_v the_o maker_n of_o schism_n and_o division_n who_o teach_v and_o hold_v any_o thing_n beside_o the_o doctrine_n learn_v from_o the_o apostle_n so_o that_o indeed_o the_o mean_n appoint_v of_o god_n to_o make_v unity_n in_o the_o church_n be_v god_n word_n and_o not_o one_o superior_a overrule_a minister_n over_o many_o distinct_a ordinary_a congregation_n which_o the_o word_n know_v not_o but_o in_o truth_n such_o a_o one_o be_v the_o very_a proper_a cause_n of_o dissension_n and_o schism_n for_o he_o not_o willing_a to_o submit_v to_o god_n word_n by_o his_o power_n draw_v many_o with_o he_o &_o yet_o he_o can_v light_o prevail_v with_o all_o whereupon_o follow_v dissension_n and_o schism_n and_o then_o he_o with_o his_o company_n be_v the_o strong_a in_o the_o world_n may_v cry_v out_o loud_a against_o those_o few_o that_o dissent_v from_o he_o that_o they_o be_v
and_o princelike_a prelacy_n which_o this_o doctor_n hunt_v after_o though_o in_o many_o place_n of_o his_o book_n he_o dissemble_v and_o will_v not_o have_v they_o call_v sole_a governor_n here_o he_o plain_o show_v that_o he_o hold_v the_o bishop_n may_v take_v the_o people_n consent_n and_o presbyter_n advise_v if_o they_o like_v it_o if_o not_o than_o they_o may_v nevertheless_o proceed_v and_o not_o stand_v upon_o it_o as_o prince_n may_v do_v in_o common_a wealth_n true_o all_o find_a writer_n ever_o have_v hold_v this_o in_o church-governement_n to_o be_v right_o 45._o right_o see_v our_o attestator_n pag._n 23._o 25._o 26._o 27._o 29._o 31._o 32._o 33._o 35._o 36._o 37._o 42._o 45._o tyrannical_a &_o wronghfull_a oppression_n of_o christian_a man_n conscience_n and_o yet_o as_o i_o have_v oft_o say_v we_o grant_v the_o sway_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a government_n to_o be_v indeed_o in_o the_o bishop_n ordinary_o but_o not_o absolute_o the_o consequence_n of_o his_o 83._o his_o pag._n 83._o next_o proposition_n i_o deny_v also_o viz._n the_o thing_n write_v to_o inform_v not_o timothy_n &_o titus_n alone_o as_o extraordinary_a person_n but_o they_o &_o their_o successor_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n be_v write_v to_o inform_v diocesan_n bishop_n they_o be_v not_o diocesan_a bishop_n be_v no_o successor_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n nor_o intend_v by_o the_o apostle_n they_o come_v after_o by_o reason_n of_o that_o apostasy_n which_o through_o god_n determinat_fw-la counsel_n be_v to_o come_v over_o christendom_n without_o which_o go_v before_o antichrist_n can_v not_o have_v stand_v up_o he_o add_v 84._o add_v pag._n 84._o the_o authority_n commit_v to_o tim._n and_o tit_n be_v perpetual_o necessary_a it_o be_v true_a material_o not_o formal_o as_o before_o be_v say_v beside_o tim._n &_o tit._n themselves_o have_v not_o the_o authority_n which_o diocesan_n bishop_n have_v it_o be_v far_o less_o therefore_o these_o be_v not_o their_o successor_n where_o he_o will_v prove_v it_o first_o disjunctive_o 86._o disjunctive_o pag._n 86._o either_o they_o or_o the_o presbytery_n or_o the_o congregation_n be_v their_o successor_n i_o answer_v this_o disjunction_n be_v unsufficient_a he_o reckon_v not_o pastor_n or_o bishop_n of_o one_o ordinary_a congregation_n only_o they_o be_v the_o immediate_a successor_n of_o timothy_n &_o titus_n speak_v of_o such_o a_o succession_n as_o they_o have_v and_o may_v have_v be_v evangelist_n about_o 200._o year_n after_o christ_n titular_a diocesan_n succeed_v they_o after_o 300._o year_n office_n these_o improper_o succeed_v viz._n in_o place_n not_o in_o office_n diocesan_n with_o maioritie_n of_o power_n and_o rule_v succeed_v after_o they_o long_o come_v the_o proper_a and_o complete_a diocesan_n prelate_n the_o diocesan_n lord_n bishop_n of_o who_o our_o question_n be_v indeed_o but_o among_o all_o these_o whosoever_o be_v a_o bishop_n real_o of_o mo_z ordinary_a congregation_n than_o one_o therein_o he_o succeed_v not_o timothy_n nor_o titus_n nor_o any_o apostle_n who_o never_o intend_v any_o such_o ordinary_a successor_n and_o succession_n in_o place_n with_o dissent_n in_o doctrine_n be_v a_o false_a succession_n beside_o a_o presbytery_n do_v 17.28_o do_v act._n 20_o 17.28_o precede_v timothy_n in_o ephesus_n therefore_o they_o may_v lawful_o succeed_v as_o they_o do_v now_o in_o the_o dutch_a and_o french_a reform_v church_n the_o people_n also_o have_v in_o act_n succeed_v lawful_o at_o sometime_o as_o the_o d._n himself_o 99_o himself_o pag._n 99_o know_v and_o therefore_o so_o they_o may_v again_o on_o occasion_n then_o he_o will_v 87._o will_v pag._n 86._o 87._o name_v bishop_n that_o succeed_v timothiâ—_n and_o titus_n mean_v he_o proper_a diocesan_n l._n bishop_n if_o he_o do_v not_o he_o trifle_v but_o who_o be_v they_o first_o the_o angel_n of_o ephesus_n and_o onesimus_n nay_o these_o be_v bishop_n only_o of_o one_o ordinary_a congregation_n and_o that_o within_o the_o city_n ephesus_n as_o 227._o as_o pag._n 206._o 227._o before_o i_o have_v note_v that_o polycrates_n and_o philip_n of_o gortyna_n in_o crete_n be_v such_o also_o i_o have_v show_v 231._o show_v pag._n 235._o 231._o before_o as_o also_o the_o doct._n falsehood_n about_o philip._n where_o he_o say_v 87._o say_v pag._n 87._o every_o metropolitan_a be_v a_o diocesan_n it_o be_v untrue_a the_o first_o bishop_n be_v metropolitan_n that_o be_v bishop_n in_o mother-city_n yet_o they_o be_v not_o diocesan_n bishop_n viz._n over_o mo_z ordinary_a congregation_n then_o one_o he_o say_v he_o read_v not_o any_o where_n of_o the_o next_o successor_n to_o titus_n indeed_o he_o read_v of_o no_o proper_a successor_n to_o titus_n at_o all_o nor_o to_o tim._n etc._n etc._n ordinary_a pastor_n of_o congregation_n succeed_v these_o extraordinary_a man_n as_o they_o also_o succeed_v the_o apostle_n viz._n improper_o not_o in_o their_o whole_a and_o proper_a office_n our_o d._n follow_v d._n dove_n will_v prove_v that_o timothy_n &_o titus_n have_v 89._o have_v pag_n 89._o their_o ordinary_a residence_n in_o ephesus_n &_o in_o crete_n because_o one_o be_v will_v â—â—_o will_v 1._o tim_n 1._o â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o abide_v at_o ephesus_n 1.5_o tit._n 1.5_o the_o other_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o redress_v further_o the_o thing_n which_o he_o find_v there_o amiss_o it_o be_v true_a for_o a_o time_n each_o of_o they_o be_v so_o resident_a but_o not_o always_o nor_o till_o they_o die_v for_o not_o long_o after_o timothy_n be_v 4.9_o be_v 2._o tim._n 4.9_o call_v away_o and_o tychicus_n a_o other_o evangelist_n be_v send_v to_o 2d_o to_o eph._n 6_o 2d_o ephesus_n in_o his_o room_n when_o if_o timothy_n have_v be_v there_o still_o it_o seem_v there_o have_v ben_fw-mi no_o need_n of_o tychicus_n neither_o will_v paul_n have_v leave_v he_o unsaluted_a and_o unnamed_a in_o that_o epistle_n to_o the_o ephesian_n also_o the_o apostle_n 1â—_n apostle_n philip._n 2_o 1â—_n intend_v that_o timothy_n be_v come_v from_o ephesus_n shall_v undertake_v the_o charge_n of_o philipps_n therefore_o he_o be_v now_o loose_a and_o free_a from_o ephesus_n writer_n also_o say_v that_o john_n the_o apostle_n afterward_o be_v at_o ephesus_n do_v a_o bishoply_n office_n when_o sure_o timothy_n be_v not_o bishop_n there_o yet_o as_o may_v be_v think_v he_o be_v then_o live_v our_o d._n add_v that_o bishop_n &_o other_o pastor_n may_v be_v absent_a from_o their_o cure_n upon_o special_a and_o extraordinary_a occasion_n it_o be_v untrue_a they_o may_v not_o residenâ—â—_n now_o residenâ—â—_n all_o religion_n and_o piety_n forbid_v it_o unless_o it_o be_v with_o their_o church_n express_a consent_n which_o timothy_n here_o have_v not_o the_o apostle_n as_o he_o alone_o place_v he_o at_o ephesus_n so_o he_o alone_o without_o the_o church_n call_v he_o away_o you_o will_v say_v and_o he_o alone_o may_v do_v so_o true_a the_o apostle_n alone_o may_v do_v so_o with_o evangelist_n but_o he_o may_v not_o with_o bishop_n and_o pastor_n these_o be_v more_o in_o their_o church_n power_n then_o so_o neither_o indeed_o have_v it_o be_v 93._o be_v pag._n 93._o a_o matter_n of_o good_a report_n nor_o of_o good_a example_n as_o his_o refuter_fw-la say_v well_o if_o timothy_n be_v the_o ephesian_n proper_a bishop_n have_v without_o their_o special_a grant_n go_v from_o they_o chief_o so_o long_a time_n and_o so_o far_o of_o and_o to_o take_v charge_n of_o another_o place_n neither_o very_o have_v paul_n any_o need_n so_o to_o take_v away_o a_o proper_a pastor_n from_o his_o flock_n the_o same_o likewise_o be_v to_o be_v say_v of_o titus_n his_o departure_n from_o crete_n first_o to_o rome_n then_o to_o dalmatia_n but_o he_o will_v prove_v that_o 91._o that_o pag._n 91._o they_o live_v and_o dye_v in_o ephesus_n and_o crete_n if_o they_o do_v yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v bishop_n there_o nor_o yet_o that_o they_o have_v 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