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A39999 Rectius instruendum, or, A review and examination of the doctrine presented by one assuming the name of ane [sic] informer in three dialogues with a certain doubter, upon the controverted points of episcopacy, the convenants against episcopacy and separation : wherein the unsoundnes, and (in manythinges) the inconsistency of the informers principles, arguments, and answers upon these points, the violence which he hath offred unto the Holy Scripture and to diverse authors ancient and modern, is demonstrat and made appear, and that truth which is after godlines owned by the true Protestant Presbyterian Church of Scotland asserted and vindicated. Forrester, Thomas, 1635?-1706. 1684 (1684) Wing F1597; ESTC R36468 441,276 728

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bishop_n for_o the_o bishop_n be_v the_o first_o priest_n
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of_o truth_n anent_o the_o abrogation_n of_o the_o mosaical_a ceremony_n and_o censure_v the_o opposer_n of_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n herein_o who_o have_v disturb_v the_o church_n and_o belie_v the_o apostle_n doctrine_n and_o according_o in_o order_n to_o the_o restore_n and_o establish_v truth_n and_o order_n in_o these_o disturb_a church_n the_o ordinary_a minister_n or_o elder_n concur_v with_o the_o apostle_n in_o every_o step_n viz_o in_o the_o conferrence_n &_o disquisition_n the_o authoritative_a decision_n the_o draw_v forth_o of_o the_o sentence_n and_o decree_n the_o send_v out_o of_o the_o decree_a and_o censure_a epistle_n the_o impose_v of_o the_o decry_v upon_o the_o church_n to_o observe_v and_o keep_v the_o same_o etc._n etc._n 2._o this_o cut_v the_o throat_n of_o that_o juridical_a forensical_a joint_a decision_n of_o church_n judicatories_n which_o the_o scripture_n do_v so_o clear_o hold_v forth_o where_o be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o censure_v juridiall_a court_n draw_v forth_o a_o joint_a decision_n or_o censure_n where_o
flock_n as_o this_o man_n himself_o plead_v both_o these_o ground_n hold_v out_o their_o equality_n among_o themselves_o and_o infer_v a_o discharge_n of_o inequality_n this_o informer_n likeways_o will_v remark_n that_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n here_o command_v presbyter_n to_o act_v the_o bishope_n thus_o indentify_v the_o bishop_n and_o prisbyter_n but_o without_o lording_n it_o over_o god_n heritage_n the_o prohibition_n not_o to_o lord_n it_o be_v remarkable_o join_v with_o the_o command_n to_o act_n the_o bishop_n and_o refer_v their_o office_n to_o the_o flock_n he_o must_v confess_v the_o apostle_n acknowledge_v no_o bishop_n who_o inspection_n be_v over_o pastor_n themselves_o thus_o we_o see_v hisanswer_v to_o the_o argument_n against_o prelacy_n from_o this_o text_n be_v contrare_fw-la unto_o the_o scope_n and_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n yea_o and_o inconsistent_a with_o itself_o chap._n x._o the_o informer_n answer_n to_o our_o argument_n from_o act._n 20._o and_o from_o 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excommunication_n nor_o receive_v of_o penitent_n bishop_n can_v do_v any_o thing_n without_o presbyter_n and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o delegation_n of_o their_o power_n downam_n himself_o confess_v in_o reference_n to_o ambrose_n time_n and_o long_o after_o it_o so_o that_o for_o 400_o year_n our_o prelate_n present_a prince_n like_o power_n be_v not_o know_v in_o the_o church_n the_o ancient_a bishop_n make_v themselves_o sole_a in_o no_o point_n of_o ecclesiastic_a discipline_n as_o our_o prelate_n who_o have_v excommunicate_a alone_o tertull._n apoleget_v show_v that_o the_o exhortation_n castigation_n and_o censuradivina_fw-la the_o divine_a censure_n among_o which_o he_o take_v in_o excommunication_n be_v perform_v by_o the_o probati_fw-la quique_fw-la seniores_fw-la all_o the_o approve_a elder_n before_o he_o iraenus_fw-la haeres_fw-la lib_n 4_o cap._n 44._o will_v have_v these_o presbyter_n obey_v qui_fw-la successionem_fw-la habent_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n have_v 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13._o cap._n 8._o tit._n where_o there_o be_v exhibit_v a_o full_a collection_n of_o canon_n to_o this_o purpose_n the_o 81_o canon_n diximus_fw-la non_fw-la oportere_fw-la episcopum_fw-la vel_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la seipsum_fw-la ad_fw-la publicas_fw-la administrationes_fw-la demittere_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o ecclesiasticis_fw-la negotiis_fw-la versari_fw-la well_fw-mi ergo_fw-la ita_fw-la facere_fw-la persuadeatur_fw-la vel_fw-la depon●…tur_fw-la that_o be_v we_o have_v appoint_v that_o a_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n must_v not_o stoop_v to_o or_o debase_v himself_o with_o public_a that_o be_v civil_a administrationes_fw-la or_o office_n let_v he_o therefore_o be_v either_o persuade_v so_o to_o do_v or_o let_v he_o be_v depose_v ●…alsamon_n upon_o this_o canon_n observe_v that_o it_o lenify_v the_o first_o refer_v to_o xvi_o canon_n carth._n syn._n again_o canon_n 83._o rune_n thus_o episcopus_fw-la vel_fw-la presbyter_n vel_fw-la diaconus_fw-la exercitui_fw-la vacans_fw-la &_o 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