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〈…〉_o 〈…〉_o apud_fw-la quos_fw-la verbi_fw-la suâ—_n praedicationâ—m_fw-la &_o mysteriorum_fw-la obseruationem_fw-la deposuit_fw-la deus_fw-la for_o who_o daâ—es_n take_v away_o from_o they_o the_o title_n of_o a_o church_n to_o who_o god_n send_v his_o prophet_n to_z preach_v his_o word_n and_o where_o he_o hâ—â—_n settle_v the_o observation_n of_o those_o 〈…〉_o and_o type_n which_o point_v at_o he_o in_o who_o â—ll_o the_o nation_n of_o the_o earth_n shoâ—â—d_v be_v â—lessed_v say_v he_o profess_o handle_n this_o present_a question_n and_o compare_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n with_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n in_o her_o defection_n from_o god_n now_o whereas_o he_o say_v afterward_o 11._o ibid._n sect._n 11._o that_o this_o come_v to_o pass_v rather_o from_o the_o constancy_n of_o god_n who_o have_v once_o make_v a_o covenant_n with_o they_o will_v not_o repent_v than_o be_v keep_v on_o their_o part_n who_o rebel_v against_o he_o we_o willing_o grant_v and_o take_v it_o to_o agree_v well_o with_o what_o we_o have_v already_o deliver_v touch_v god_n right_a over_o his_o church_n yet_o such_o say_v he_o iâ—idem_fw-la iâ—idem_fw-la be_v the_o immutability_n and_o goodness_n of_o god_n that_o their_o rebellion_n and_o backeslide_a can_v not_o make_v the_o word_n of_o god_n of_o none_o effect_n neither_o can_v circumcision_n be_v so_o profane_v by_o their_o impure_a hand_n but_o that_o it_o still_o continue_a a_o true_a sign_n &_o sacrament_n of_o his_o covenant_n the_o state_n of_o that_o church_n afterward_o although_o it_o be_v observe_v that_o after_o their_o return_n from_o the_o captivity_n they_o never_o fall_v to_o idolatry_n again_o yet_o be_v such_o that_o they_o be_v divide_v into_o many_o sect_n and_o many_o heresy_n spring_v up_o among_o they_o at_o the_o come_n of_o our_o saviour_n they_o which_o sit_v in_o moses_n chair_n be_v the_o scribe_n and_o the_o pharisee_n who_o pervert_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o law_n and_o be_v the_o profess_a enemy_n of_o our_o saviour_n yet_o than_o no_o doubt_n be_v the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n the_o church_n of_o god_n or_o else_o god_n have_v no_o visible_a church_n upon_o the_o face_n of_o the_o earth_n 3._o the_o christian_a church_n be_v never_o bring_v to_o a_o low_a ebb_n than_o be_v the_o jewish_a synagogue_n in_o the_o day_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n vide_fw-la â—_o usher_n vâ—â—â—e_a salâ—â—y_n of_o the_o châ—â—ch_n of_o christ_n pag._n â—9_n 1._o coâ—_n 12._o 3._o fundamental_a truth_n as_o it_o be_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o church_n and_o can_v not_o choose_v but_o be_v operative_a more_fw-mi or_o less_o wheresoever_o it_o do_v enlve_v so_o be_v it_o of_o that_o divine_a nature_n that_o it_o acknowledge_v no_o other_o parent_n but_o god_n alone_o and_o they_o belong_v unto_o he_o by_o that_o name_n whosoever_o hold_v and_o profess_v the_o same_o no_o man_n can_v say_v that_o jesus_n be_v christ_n but_o by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n say_v s._n
our_o church_n shall_v deny_v that_o there_o be_v lawful_a ordination_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n what_o then_o â—â—_o be_v there_o no_o god_n in_o israel_n nor_o balmâ—_n in_o gilead_n must_v we_o go_v to_o gather_v grape_n from_o the_o romish_a hedge_n and_o derive_v bishop_n of_o christ_n from_o the_o sea_n of_o antichrist_n iâ—_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v all_o this_o while_n that_o we_o pleâ—â—_n our_o own_o cause_n the_o reform_a church_n in_o other_o part_n want_v nâ—â—_n learned_a patron_n of_o their_o own_o the_o weakeâ—_n soâ—t_n may_v perhaps_o be_v offend_v hereat_o sed_fw-la cordatiores_fw-la norunt_fw-la tâ—â—_n minist_n dr_n prideaux_n oâ—at_n de_fw-fr vâ—â—at_n minist_n wise_a understand_v that_o the_o scribe_n phariseeâ—_n sometime_o sit_v in_o the_o chair_n of_o moses_n and_o that_o judas_n baâ—e_v the_o office_n of_o a_o apostle_n and_o sometime_o the_o evil_a have_v chief_a autheritie_n â—6_n article_n â—6_n in_o the_o ministration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n say_v the_o confession_n of_o our_o church_n for_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n the_o power_n of_o teach_v another_o the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n nor_o do_v he_o that_o by_o superstition_n or_o heresy_n let_v go_v purity_n of_o doctrine_n present_o lose_v his_o authority_n and_o faculty_n of_o ordain_v as_o aaron_n idolatry_n hinder_v he_o not_o from_o transfer_v the_o priesthood_n to_o his_o posterity_n who_o be_v ignorant_a that_o they_o which_o be_v baptize_v by_o heretic_n be_v true_o baptize_v and_o likewise_o that_o those_o which_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o ministry_n by_o such_o be_v true_o ordain_v we_o regard_v not_o the_o quality_n but_o the_o authority_n of_o he_o that_o confer_v holy_a order_n as_o we_o rebaptize_v christ_n m._n hieren_fw-mi his_o answer_n to_o the_o popisâ—â—â—me_n how_o can_v she_o make_v a_o lawful_a priest_n if_o she_o be_v not_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n none_o that_o have_v receive_v baptism_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n so_o we_o do_v not_o ordain_v they_o anew_o which_o have_v take_v order_n from_o that_o see_v when_o they_o become_v convert_v if_o they_o have_v swear_v to_o any_o error_n or_o heresy_n of_o that_o church_n that_o we_o cause_v they_o to_o abjure_v but_o we_o suppose_v they_o true_o invest_v in_o the_o order_n oâ—_n priesthood_n by_o this_o we_o hope_v it_o be_v evident_a thâ—â—_n there_o be_v yet_o a_o little_a strength_n in_o tâ—â—_n sinful_a church_n of_o rome_n forasmuch_o as_o there_o be_v true_a baptism_n wherein_o they_o be_v baptize_v into_o christ_n truâ—â—_n and_o not_o the_o pope_n error_n and_o tâ—â—_n she_o have_v not_o whole_o lose_v the_o face_n â—â—_o a_o church_n for_o there_o be_v true_a and_o lawful_a ordination_n wherein_o they_o receipt_n commission_n and_o do_v promise_n to_o teaâ—â—_n the_o people_n not_o the_o pope_n legend_n but_o out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n sâ—_n that_o both_o pastor_n and_o flock_n be_v oâ—â—_n by_o admission_n promise_n and_o engagement_n they_o by_o abuse_n and_o practice_v neither_o shall_v the_o precipitate_a speech_n and_o rash_a censure_n of_o any_o maâ—_n ever_o prevail_v so_o far_o with_o we_o bâ—_n that_o we_o will_v still_o believe_v and_o hope_v and_o pray_v that_o he_o which_o call_v jobâ—mongst_a â—mongst_z the_o heathen_a and_o the_o queeâ—_n of_o the_o south_n by_o the_o bare_a report_n oâ—_n solomon_n and_o give_v that_o instinct_n oâ—_n nature_n unto_o creature_n walk_v in_o a_o pasture_n where_o venomous_a herb_n be_v mix_v with_o wholesome_a to_o make_v choice_n of_o that_o which_o be_v proper_a for_o they_o and_o abstain_v from_o the_o contrary_a will_v give_v the_o guidance_n &_o assistance_n of_o his_o spirit_n to_o his_o number_n under_o the_o tyranny_n of_o antichrist_n to_o do_v the_o same_o that_o so_o his_o calling_n be_v not_o still_o in_o vain_a the_o ordination_n whole_o unprofitable_a or_o that_o admission_n in_o baptism_n always_o frustrate_a that_o be_v to_o be_v the_o savour_n of_o death_n unto_o death_n and_o in_o none_o the_o savour_n of_o life_n unto_o life_n and_o herein_o we_o doubt_v not_o but_o we_o be_v hear_v even_o before_o we_o ask_v chap._n xii_o our_o five_o argument_n prove_v from_o our_o manner_n of_o dispute_v with_o papist_n that_o they_o do_v not_o direct_o deny_v the_o foundation_n of_o our_o faith_n in_o those_o many_o part_n of_o knowledge_n about_o which_o the_o mind_n of_o man_n be_v conucrsant_a some_o such_o ground_n there_o be_v which_o be_v propose_v 〈◊〉_d mind_n do_v present_o embrace_v they_o as_o free_a from_o all_o possibility_n of_o errouâ—_n clear_a and_o evident_a without_o proof_n such_o be_v those_o principle_n in_o philosophy_n that_o the_o whole_a be_v great_a thâ—â—_n the_o part_n etc._n etc._n those_o axiom_n oâ—_n reason_n that_o the_o great_a good_a be_v to_o â—â—_o choose_n before_o the_o less_o that_o we_o mâ—â—_n do_v unto_o other_o as_o we_o will_v be_v dâ—â—_n unto_o ourselves_o a_o sentence_n whiâ—â—_n st._n augustine_n say_v all_o nation_n undâ—â—_n heaven_n be_v agree_v upon_o and_o of_o suâ—â—_n thâ—ophâ—asâ—us_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thâ—ophâ—asâ—us_fw-la thing_n as_o these_o to_o demand_v a_o reasoâ—_n be_v to_o take_v away_o reason_n othâ—â—_n thing_n there_o be_v which_o although_o theâ—_n be_v not_o so_o manifest_a in_o themselves_o yeâ—_n such_o be_v their_o plainness_n that_o eveâ—_o easiness_n itself_o make_v they_o hardâ—_n be_v dispute_v of_o and_o to_o this_o numbeâ—_n it_o seem_v to_o i_o that_o the_o matter_n about_o which_o we_o now_o contend_v may_v well_o be_v reckon_v wherein_o foâ—_n ought_v i_o can_v perceive_v they_o whiâ—â—_n oppose_v we_o have_v not_o bring_v so_o muâ—â—_n as_o probability_n of_o reason_n to_o bâ—câ—â—_n their_o opinion_n much_o less_o that_o substantial_a reason_n and_o demonstrative_a â—8_o 7._o vial_n p._n â—8_o proof_n wherewithal_o they_o bear_v we_o in_o hand_n for_o if_o the_o present_a question_n to_o this_o day_n have_v never_o be_v move_v nor_o any_o word_n or_o syllable_n sound_v that_o way_n be_v to_o be_v find_v among_o the_o write_n of_o the_o divine_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n yet_o such_o a_o general_a tacit_n consent_n there_o be_v among_o they_o herein_o and_o so_o universal_o do_v they_o conspire_v in_o this_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v not_o direct_o deny_v the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n that_o their_o assent_n may_v necessary_o be_v evince_v if_o we_o do_v but_o consider_v their_o manner_n of_o dispute_v against_o they_o of_o that_o faction_n the_o father_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n when_o they_o write_v tertullian_n the_o book_n which_o he_o call_v apologeticuâ—_n arnobius_n and_o lactantius_n his_o scholar_n against_o the_o gentile_n chrysostome_n his_o oration_n against_o the_o jew_n eusebius_n his_o ten_o book_n of_o evangelicall_a demonstration_n they_o stand_v in_o defence_n of_o christianity_n against_o they_o by_o who_o the_o foundation_n thereof_o be_v direct_o deny_v but_o the_o write_n of_o the_o father_n against_o justification_n m._n hâ—oker_n his_o discourse_n of_o justification_n novatian_n pelagian_o and_o other_o heretic_n of_o the_o like_a note_n refel_v position_n whereby_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a faith_n be_v overthrow_v by_o consequent_a only_o in_o the_o former_a sort_n of_o writing_n the_o foundation_n be_v prove_v in_o the_o latter_a it_o be_v allege_v as_o a_o proof_n which_o to_o man_n that_o have_v be_v know_v direct_o to_o deny_v must_v needs_o have_v seem_v a_o very_a beggarly_a kind_n of_o dispute_v in_o like_a manner_n our_o proceed_n against_o papist_n in_o dispute_v against_o they_o do_v show_v not_o only_o that_o they_o hold_v but_o that_o we_o acknowlehge_v they_o to_o hold_v the_o foundation_n do_v we_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v to_o they_o this_o truth_n thâ—â—_n christ_n jesus_n come_v into_o the_o world_n to_o save_v sinner_n do_v we_o not_o allege_v iâ—_n as_o a_o proof_n what_o say_v we_o against_o 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