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A93056 Holy things for holy men: or, The lawyers plea non-suited, his evidence proved insufficient, his foul mouth civilly wiped, and his arrogant railings admonished, and bridled; in some Christian reproofe and pitie expressed towards Mr Prynn's book; intituled, The Lord's supper briefly vindicated, (or rather indeed by him therein exposed, vilified, and profaned: and the conscientious ministry therein abused, injured, and affronted. By S.S. minister of the gospel. Shaw, Samuel, 1635-1696. 1658 (1658) Wing S3037; Thomason E946_2; ESTC R207597 33,401 60

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loved thee Because thou hast kept the word of my patience I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation which shall come upon all the world to try them that dwell upon the earth Behold I come quickly hold that fast which thou hast that no man take thy Crown Rev. 3. 8 9 10 11. I have no more to add but Beza 's short Epistle to his Diallacton which I shall apply to my self in this work Pacem aliorum quaerere pulchrum est habet certam promissionem Beati Pacifici Sed vereor hoc dum cupide sector ne quod eis qui pugnas diruunt evenire solet idem mihi quoque accidat Illi dum aliorum saluti consulunt ipsi reportant vulnera ego dum id operam ut dissidentes redeaent in gratiam ab i●sdem fortasse nullam inibo gratiam Id si fit illius exemplo me levabo qui dixit si hominibus placuissem Christi servus non essem Vale ac stude Christo placere S. S. Holy things FOR HOLY MEN OR The Lawyers Plea Non-suited his Evidence proved insufficient his foul mouth civilly wiped and his arrogant railings admonished and bridled c. I Cannot give a better censure of M r Pryns late Pamphlet then this That 't is a little Book and a great mischief the shame of the Author the grief of the Godly the strengthening of the Wicked and the wonderment of all and this I speak from what I have beheld and read therein He stileth his Book The Lords Supper Vindicated which makes me remember the old saying Tituli remedium Pyxides venenum for there is indeed Vindication in the Title but Profanation in the drift and event That kind of noble folly is fallen upon him that a Philosopher speaks of Non est Ignobilis gradus stultitiae vel si nescias quiddicas tamen velle de rebus propositis hanc vel illam partem stabilire To undertake something in things on foot though to little purpose In the perusal of his book I have chiefly observed Three things his shameless railing his weak impertinent and failing proof that he brings to confirm his opinion and his groundlesse assertions all which I could not let passe without such an Item as Austin gives Petilian Mira dicitis nova dicitis falsa dicitis Mira stupemus nova caveamus falsa convincimus You speak strange things new things false things The strange things we admire the new we beware and the false we confute And upon all we answer reprove and advise least the unhappy Author should in all this be wise in his own conceit First I say I have observed insulsa jejuna convicia his outragious grosse and insolent reproaches against conscientious Ministers their persons and doctrine Many besides him have taken that irreverend licence as Arminians Papists Anabaptists Quakers c. but as to barbarous base procacious scurrility Mr. Prynne hath surpassed them all And that you may see and hate such sordid vomits I have though loth to foul my Pen transcribed some of them The Ministers of the Gospel that are contrary to his opinion he termeth Novelists Politick charmers pag. 2. New Doctors pag. 6. Audacious a generation of Novellers p. 32. Liers Impostors new Dogmatists Lord Keepers of the great Seal of heaven who refuse to set those Seals where God hath prescribed them as more wise holy carefull of their profanation and nullity then God himself pag. 13. Hard-hearted uncharitable obstinate domineering Ministers domineering Tyrants renouncing the chief part of their Ministerial function and profest Apostates from the Doctrine and practice of Christs Apostles primitive Fathers Churches Christians Ministers of Christ throughout the world in former ages p. 57 and p. 88. we find almost a whole page loaden with such fruit of cursing and slander These are but a few of the wounds that we receive from our friend in whose calamity we put on sackcloth and behaved our selves as if he had been a friend or a brother and went heavily as one that mourneth for his mother This is a practick part of Machievills policie this is some of the deadly some that works out of Mr. Pryns mouth in this fit of his falling sickness Neither speeds the Doctrine of conscientious Ministers better then their persons He calls their doctrine that opposeth his conceit Fals vain absurd dangerous spreading error a self-interest against the institution of our Lord Jesus Christ Epist to Reader an Anti-sacramental absurd impious Paradox Pharasaïcal spreading leaven and Gangreen p. 1. A Cuckows song p. 13. pure non-sense in Divinity p. 14. Soul-starving cruelty p. 20. Soul-murthering crime p. 18. A most absurd unchristian untheological erroneous if not blasphemous assertion These are but a few gleanings of that Harvest of his that replenishes his book in a most odious manner This is the colour of Mr. Pryns tongue dyed red in the reputation of the Saints Behold here the growth of ill weeds in a good soil Is it not pity to see Jordane fall into such a sea of Sodom to see a man in reputation for wisdom with the foolish Emperor to make shew of so many Spiders to boast the greatness of his City to shew the greatness of his reading by the badnesse of his choice Truly I never believed Mr. Prynne had had so foul a stomach till I beheld and loathed the filthy vomit of that book of his Far be it from us to study so base a language as to return railing for railing good breeding civility and piety hath taught us better Better it is and yet it grievs us to do it to spread his book before the Lord with the perplexed words of David Psal 10. This thou hast seen O Lord for thou beholdest mischief and spite to requite it with thy hand c. For Mr. Prynne himself I shall onely tell him as Austin Petilian Whilst he willingly withdraws from our reputation he unwillingly adds to our reward and as learned Beza answered That Cyclops Heshusius Illyricus Haec vero cujus culpâ eveniant vide● Dominus judicabit At ●e neque Deus neque homines nisi serio resipueris à tot calumniis foedissimis mendatiis absolverit God will see and judge where the fault lieth and truly neither God nor men will ever forgive such calumnies and stinking slanders except you repent And let Mr P●ynne remember that hard speeches have judgment following them And if to call a brother Raca and fool be in danger of hell fire to call Fathers and Pastors of the Church of Christ Liers Impostors c. bringeth the Railer into danger of something The praise that the Bishop of Lincoln worthily gave King James Funeral Sermon May 7. 1625. pag. 51. may be the inglorious Trophey of Mr. Prynne However he lived awongst Puritans and was kept as a Ward under them yet he despised their opinion so what ever Mr. Prynne hath pleaded for Puritans and Non-conformists and conscientious men see his Perpetuity in Epist
Lords supper a soul-converting grace-begetting ordinance as well as Preaching or else disclaim preaching to be such Answ We will not strike him when hee 's down hee hath so pittfully foyled himselfe that 't is no glory at all to confute that that is all confusion but no non-sence I pray in it's parts principles 'T is enough that he sees what his deep reasoning amounteth to in all Pryn. Pag. 35 and 38 M. Prynne saith in the Sacrament all is most lovely held forth to eyes and ears and therefore it must be a soul-converting Ordinance Answ Is not this sound reasoning alas how blindly doth M. Pryn speak of eys and ears doth he not know that unregenerate persons have neither eyes nor ears nor taste but their very minds and consciences are defiled Though he pleaseth to spend some waste leavs pag. 45 to tell us that sight is better then hearing yet to his and our business in hand 't is to no purpose for he knows every thing is received ad modum recipientis according to the capacity of the receiver The Cock in the fable might have taught him so and we see bruit beasts are not affected with what they see out of their proper element neither is the Brutish man affected nor doth the the carnall man either discern or receive the things of God because they are foolishnesse to him and because they are spiritually discerned The eye indeed is a good witnesse but first it must be taught by the ear the difference of things before it can judg of their excellency Therefore the wise man Prov. 20. 12. affirmeth that knowledge comes in by hearing and is after and not first demonstrated by sight the hearing ear and the seeing eye is of the Lord. What needs therefore M. Prynne to bring heaps upon heaps to prove seeing such a glorious sence as indeed it is to those that have it It had been more pertinent for him to have brought one page or some one line or one clear Scripture as he promised hee would anon for proof and evidence to his proposition that the Sacrament is a soul-converting grace begetting Ordinance Pryn. Page 39. He saith in the Apostles times all visible Church-members professing Christ made but one mystical bodie of Christ And by and by subjoyns whether regenerate or unregenerate ignorant or knowing scandalous or unblameable c. and 56 't is saith he a converting ordinance to the unregenerate instructing to the ignorant reforming to the vicious comforting to the gracious Answ I wish that M. Prynne or any of his gang would give us but a Gospell sence of this and the like groundlesse expressions Let him shew out of Scripture and good writers his evidence for what he affirms and he shall bore me thorow the ear and I will be his servant for ever If all visible Church-members make one mystical body of Christ and unregenerate scandalous and ignorant are all of that number What then shall become of Mr. Pryns antienter and sound Doctrine of the perpetuity onely of a regenerate mans estate and his membership in Christ a book of his own that I wish Mr. Prynne would read over that his then better mind might cure his now later errors What shall we say to the antient received distinction Many are in the Church that are not of the Church Nay what shall we say to the Apostle Rom. 9. 6. All are not Israel that are of Israel Is it fit we should leave the Word of God and serve Tables Shall we renounce the Apostles Doctrine and embrace what Mr. Prynne saith and onely saith it was practised in the Apostles time Let Mr. Prynne shew us the practice we will shew him the precept of the Apostles not strengthened but honestly seconded with his own exposition Let him retract that before he doth impose and pester us with his new jingles and conceits 2. And whereas Mr. Prynne saith The Sacraments are a converting Ordinance to the unregenerats instructing to the ignorant reforming to the vitious I would intreat him in so weighty a matter and so unheard of wee might have more then his bare word we will not retort too bitterly upon him that lame Giles his haltings that he pretended to cure are fallen upon himself and as Beza wittily nipped his Cyclops Heshusius arguing much at Mr. Prynnes rate about the very question in hand quid impii in coena recipiant what benefit the wicked receiv in the Supper of the Lord who producing a pitifull argument for it yet as sufficient as Mr. Prynns first born Beza I say answers him Dico hanc conclusionem non esse crocodilinam sed prosus asininam Such language were too broad to be Englished or applyed to Mr. Prynne not for esteem that I have to Mr. Prynns late arguing but for respect that I have unto his former excellent good deserts Sorry I am for our selvs that he should give us a good Pail of Milk and kick it down when he hath done sorry I am more abundantly for him that his works should be burnt up and he lose what he hath wrought for and he himself saved as by fire I will therefore onely modestly ask him as learned Whitaker inquired of Dureus Quomodo hanc ad alios gratiam derivari intelligimus how good Sir shall we understand the Grace of God to be conveyed by the Sacrament to the wicked and unregenerate For a learned Divine Beza gives us this for a conclusion and we have all received it according to the word of God for truth Indigne sumere sacra symbola et rem ipsam per incredulitatem repellere necessario cohaerent Sicut è contrario haec duo rite sumere symbola rem ipsam fide percipere To take the holy elements unworthily and to refuse the thing it self in the Sacrament must needs go together so on the contrary do these two to take the elements rightly and to receive the thing it self in the Sacrament by faith Pryn. Pag. 55 Mr. Prynne compares our preparatory work of pre-examination of so great use necessity and continuance in the Church of God unto the consession unto a popish Priest and makes them in a canine censure whelps of the same Litter Answ 1. To his rage shall I say as Jacob Gen. 49. 7. to his sons Cursed be his anger for it was fierce and his wrath for it was cruel Shall I say his fury be upon his own head and his rage perish with him No no no let his sin perish and let him be restored and be as a brand plucked out of the burning For if ever it might be said that Anger is a short madness it appears in this 55 page of his it words at length Indeed hee 's the best in England at the worst work hee 's transformed not into a whelp of some ordinary Litter as he phrases it of some snarling mungrel but rampeth like a terrible old African Lion roaring and tormented whose eies are troubled with little flies and