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A39304 The foundation of tythes shaken and the four principal posts (of divine institution, primitive practice, voluntary donations, & positive laws) on which the nameless author of the book, called, The right of tythes asserted and proved, hath set his pretended right to tythes, removed, in a reply to the said book / by Thomas Ellwood. Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713. 1678 (1678) Wing E622; ESTC R20505 321,752 532

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it_o be_v plain_a that_o by_o a_o estate_n of_o inheritance_n or_o freehold_n the_o statute_n here_o intend_v those_o tithe_n that_o then_o be_v or_o after_o shall_v come_v to_o be_v in_o the_o possession_n of_o layman_n and_o appropriate_v to_o temporal_a or_o lay_v use_n which_o imply_v it_o do_v not_o account_v tithe_n a_o estate_n of_o inheritance_n or_o freehold_n to_o the_o priest_n for_o then_o this_o distinction_n have_v be_v needless_a beside_o the_o statute_n say_v the_o person_n or_o person_n so_o despise_v etc._n etc._n their_o heir_n wife_n etc._n etc._n shall_v have_v remedy_n in_o the_o king_n be_v temporal_a court_n etc._n etc._n and_o among_o other_o writ_n by_o which_o they_o may_v proceed_v direct_v writ_n of_o dower_n all_o which_o have_v manifest_a relation_n to_o the_o impropriator_n tit●e_n not_o to_o the_o priest_n for_o what_o priest_n as_o a_o priest_n can_v make_v his_o wife_n a_o dower_n of_o tithe_n or_o what_o have_v a_o priest_n heir_n or_o wife_n to_o 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e._n say_v he_o himself_n plead_v that_o there_o be_v no_o salvation_n unless_o we_o have_v a_o ●inless_a perfection_n and_o as_o if_o christ_n have_v never_o die_v positive_o affirm_v wheresoever_o there_o be_v sin_n there_o be_v also_o condemnation_n for_o which_o he_o set_v pag._n 97._o of_o my_o book_n in_o which_o no_o such_o word_n be_v to_o be_v find_v as_o he_o have_v put_v down_o in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o sentence_n viz._n that_o there_o be_v no_o salvation_n unless_o we_o have_v a_o ●inless_a perfection_n these_o not_o be_v my_o word_n but_o his_o own_o and_o the_o latter_a part_n he_o have_v gross_o pervert_v make_v those_o word_n wheresoever_o there_o be_v sin_n there_o be_v also_o condemnation_n to_o import_v as_o if_o christ_n have_v never_o die_v for_o which_o there_o be_v no_o colour_n at_o all_o for_o the_o end_n of_o christ_n come_v and_o taste_v d●ath_n be_v not_o to_o take_v away_o the_o condemnation_n only_o and_o leave_v the_o sin_n remain_v but_o he_o be_v manifest_v to_o take_v away_o our_o sin_n 1_o jo●n_n 3._o 5._o to_o destroy_v the_o work_n of_o the_o devil_n vers_fw-la 8._o not_o only_o to_o take_v off_o the_o condemnation_n due_a for_o those_o work_n and_o leave_v the_o work_n stand_v but_o to_o destroy_v the_o work_n themselves_o and_o where_o sin_n be_v not_o take_v away_o where_o the_o work_n of_o the_o devil_n be_v not_o destroy_v there_o the_o condemnation_n be_v not_o take_v off_o but_o remain_v as_o the_o apostle_n prove_v rom._n 2._o 9_o now_o this_o doctrine_n do_v not_o at_o all_o deny_v the_o death_n of_o christ_n nor_o derogate_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o virtue_n and_o power_n thereof_o but_o confess_v and_o exalt_v it_o in_o that_o it_o ascribe_v to_o he_o the_o whole_a work_n of_o take_v away_o not_o only_o the_o condemnation_n but_o the_o sin_n also_o of_o not_o only_o take_v off_o the_o guilt_n but_o destroy_v the_o work_n of_o the_o devil_n too_o whereas_o the_o contrary_a doctrine_n do_v import_v that_o 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that_o he_o matter_n not_o whence_o or_o how_o it_o come_v but_o see_v he_o have_v prostitute_v his_o both_o reason_n and_o conscience_n to_o the_o libidinous_a desire_n of_o advantage_n and_o interest_n regard_v not_o how_o he_o come_v by_o it_o i_o will_v only_o recommend_v to_o the_o reader_n consideration_n how_o ill_o it_o become●_n they_o who_o pretend_v to_o be_v protestant_a minister_n to_o lay_v claim_n to_o the_o gift_n of_o a_o popish_a prince_n give_v to_o maintain_v a_o popish_a clergy_n and_o worship_n and_o upon_o such_o motive_n as_o be_v not_o only_o evil_a but_o direct_o contrary_a to_o protestant_a principle_n §_o 15._o in_o the_o former_a objection_n which_o the_o priest_n make_v in_o my_o name_n against_o the_o