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A16701 The apologie of the Romane Church deuided into three seuerall tractes whereof 1. The first, concerneth the antiquitie and continuance of the Catholike Romane religion ever since the Apostles time. 2. The second that the Protestantes religion was not so much as in being, at or before Luthers first appearing. 3. The thirde that Catholickes are no lesse loyall and dutifull to their soveraigne, then Protestantes. All which are vndertaken and proued by testimonies of the learned Protestantes themselues. Anderton, Lawrence.; Anderton, James, fl. 1624, attributed name. 1604 (1604) STC 3604; ESTC S119868 294,461 212

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vrsinus_n in_o commentar_n catech_n pag._n 21._o fine_a say_v etsi_fw-la ethnicorum_fw-la nonnulla_fw-la miracula_fw-la commemorantur_fw-la ac_fw-la de_fw-la antichristo_fw-la &_o pseudoprophetis_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la edituros_fw-la esse_fw-la signa_fw-la etc._n etc._n tamen_fw-la caneque_fw-la numero_fw-la neque_fw-la magnitudine_fw-la paria_fw-la sunt_fw-la miraculis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la etc._n etc._n primum_fw-la enim_fw-la ea_fw-la miracula_fw-la quae_fw-la iactantur_fw-la ab_fw-la hostibus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la sunt_fw-la eiusmodi_fw-la quae_fw-la ordine_fw-la naturae_fw-la non_fw-la mutato_fw-la hominum_fw-la vel_fw-la diabolorum_fw-la fraudibus_fw-la possunt_fw-la effici_fw-la etc._n etc._n miracula_fw-la vero_fw-la quibus_fw-la deus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la ornavit_fw-la opera_fw-la sunt_fw-la preter_fw-la aut_fw-la contra_fw-la naturae_fw-la &_o causarum_fw-la secundarum_fw-la ordinem_fw-la ac_fw-la proinde_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la divina_fw-la potentia_fw-la facta_fw-la and_o the_o like_a be_v affirm_v by_o zanchius_n in_o d._n pauli_n epistolas_fw-la ad_fw-la philipense_n colloss_n &_o thessai_n pag._n 241._o &_o 242._o by_o danaeus_n in_o isagoges_n christianae_n part_n 4._o
sacrament_n be_v use_v long_o before_o the_o time_n of_o honorius_n the_o three_o so_o also_o it_o be_v as_o evident_a and_o confess_v by_o protestant_n and_o namely_o by_o mr._n foxe_n act_n mon._n pag._n 896._o b._n fine_a and_o after_o the_o aedition_n of_o anno_fw-la 1596._o pag._n 1276._o a._n line_n 14._o that_o if_o this_o honorius_n do_v not_o begin_v the_o same_o the_o first_o beginning_n thereof_o be_v then_o so_o sarr_o from_o be_v find_v that_o we_o can_v say_v mr._n fox_n find_v it_o to_o come_v in_o by_o any_o other_o add_v but_o now_o here-unto_o the_o answerable_a testimony_n of_o austin_n in_o psalm_n 98._o of_o ambrose_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 12._o of_o theodoret_n dial_n 2._o of_o chrysostom_n in_o 1._o cor_fw-la hom_n 24._o of_o basill_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la cap._n 27._o of_o nazianzen_n in_o epitaph_n gorgoniae_fw-la and_o of_o dionysius_n areopagita_n de_fw-fr eccles_n hierach_n c._n 3._o which_o be_v so_o plain_a and_o 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on_o our_o adversary_n part_n and_o hitherto_o want_v may_v be_v matter_n in_o this_o behalf_n sufficient_a to_o offer_v unto_o your_o highness_n learned_a judgement_n yet_o will_v we_o ourselves_o in_o surplusage_n exhibit_v further_o demonstration_n of_o she_o not_o change_v in_o any_o needful_a article_n of_o faith_n by_o manifest_a testimony_n from_o our_o learned_a adversary_n first_o than_o it_o be_v heretofore_o full_o prove_v by_o evident_a confession_n of_o the_o learned_a protestant_n aswell_o in_o general_a 607._o general_a this_o be_v full_o confess_v heretofore_o tract_n 1_o sect_n 1_o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la initium_fw-la and_o mr._n fulke_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterfeit_n catholic_a pag._n 36._o initio_fw-la affirm_v also_o that_o the_o religion_n of_o the_o papist_n come_v in_o and_o prevail_v in_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 607._o as_o also_o concern_v every_o point_n of_o faith_n in_o particular_a d._n particular_a this_o be_v heretofore_o prove_v tract_n 1._o sect._n 1._o in_o the_o margin_n at_o the_o letter_n d._n that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o gregory_n the_o great_a bishope_n of_o rome_n the_o roman_a church_n profess_v our_o now_o catholic_a or_o as_o they_o term_v it_o popish_a faith_n and_o that_o she_o have_v persevere_v in_o profession_n thereof_o ever_o since_o that_o time_n be_v confess_v likewise_o by_o our_o adversary_n and_o make_v so_o evident_a by_o all_o history_n as_o that_o to_o undertake_v further_a proof_n thereof_o be_v tediousness_n both_o 261._o both_o confess_v heretofore_o tract_n 1._o sect_n 2._o in_o the_o margin_n at_o the_o letter_n l._n and_o also_o at_o this_o mark_n *_o and_o mr._n fulke_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterfeit_n catholic_a pag._n 27._o circa_fw-la med_n speak_v of_o boniface_n the_o three_o who_o be_v bishope_n of_o rome_n the_o 2_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o gregory_n the_o great_a teste_fw-la anastasio_n l._n de_fw-la vitio_fw-la pontificum_fw-la say_v the_o pope_n from_o boniface_n the_o 3._o be_v all_o blasphemous_a haereticke_n &_o antichristes_n and_o he_o affirm_v the_o same_o in_o his_o confutation_n of_o purgatory_n pag._n 344._o post_n med_n and_o he_o likewise_o affirm_v boniface_n the_o three_o to_o be_v antichrist_n and_o that_o under_o he_o the_o papist_n religion_n prevail_v in_o his_o foresay_a answer_n to_o a_o counterfeit_n catholic_a pag._n 36._o and_o in_o his_o confutation_n of_o purgatory_n pa._n 194._o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la med_n &_o vide_fw-la whitakerum_fw-la l._n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la pa._n 260._o fine_a &_o 261._o improper_a and_o needless_a this_o century_n this_o this_o be_v manifest_o affirm_v and_o collect_v from_o the_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n of_o every_o age_n and_o by_o our_o adversary_n the_o centurie_n writer_n in_o every_o of_o their_o several_a century_n gregory_n live_v somewhat_o within_o the_o first_o 600._o year_n after_o christ_n so_o that_o have_v now_o hereby_o already_o prove_v the_o continue_a profession_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o our_o now_o teach_v catholic_a faith_n for_o all_o these_o last_o thousand_o year_n the_o only_a difficulty_n and_o doubt_n lest_o to_o be_v examine_v be_v whether_o that_o she_o do_v make_v change_n of_o her_o faith_n during_o these_o other_o foresay_a first_o 600_o year_n next_o after_o christ_n this_o be_v the_o main_a point_n or_o issue_n of_o this_o present_a controversy_n we_o will_v now_o first_o examine_v for_o how_o many_o hundred_o year_n next_o after_o christ_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v confess_v to_o have_v persevere_v without_o revolt_v or_o change_v in_o the_o faith_n first_o to_o she_o deliver_v in_o discovery_n whereof_o whereas_o our_o writer_n do_v object_n how_o that_o tertullian_n provoke_v the_o heretic_n of_o his_o time_n with_o the_o succession_n of_o the_o roman_a bishope_n mr._n d._n fulke_o answer_v thereto_o affirm_v the_o reason_n thereof_o to_o be_v for_o that_o say_v he_o med_n he_o mr._n fulke_o in_o his_o confutation_n of_o purgatory_n p._n 374._o post_v med_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n retain_v by_o succession_n until_o tertullia_n day_n that_o faith_n which_o it_o do_v first_o receive_v of_o the_o apostle_n with_o who_o agree_v herein_o mr._n d._n whitaker_n tenebant_fw-la whitaker_n whitaker_n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la pa._n 278._o post_n med_n speak_v of_o certain_a apostolic_a church_n &_o among_o they_o of_o rome_n by_o name_n say_v unde_fw-la intelligimus_fw-la cur_n ad_fw-la illas_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la provocaret_fw-la tertullianus_n nimirum_fw-la quia_fw-la tum_fw-la doctrinan_n apostolicam_fw-la perpetua_fw-la successione_n tenebant_fw-la and_o hierome_n med_n hierome_n zanchius_n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la relig_n p._n 148._o circa_fw-la med_n zanchius_n and_o where_o one_o of_o our_o writer_n urge_v med_n urge_v in_o mr._n fulke_n confutation_n of_o purga_fw-la p._n 372._o ante_fw-la med_n the_o succession_n of_o the_o roman_a bishope_n by_o example_n of_o ireneus_fw-la cyprian_n tertullian_n optatus_n hierome_n austin_n and_o vincentius_n lirinensis_n mr._n fulke_o answer_v thereto_o say_v med_a say_v ibidem_fw-la p._n 373._o paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la med_a that_o these_o man_n special_o name_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n it_o be_v because_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n at_o that_o time_n as_o it_o be_v found_v by_o the_o apostle_n so_o it_o continue_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o mr._n d._n rainolde_v be_v provoke_v in_o the_o same_o kind_n acknowledge_v in_o like_a manner_n that_o med_n that_o mr._n d._n rainolde_v in_o his_o conference_n with_o m._n harte_n pa._n 442._o post_n med_n the_o succession_n of_o the_o roman_a bishope_n be_v a_o proof_n of_o the_o true_a faith_n in_o the_o time_n of_o austin_n epiphanius_n optatus_n tertullian_n and_o ireneus_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o the_o like_a acknowledgement_n or_o answer_n thereto_o be_v make_v by_o many_o other_o other_o other_o ridley_n in_o mr._n fox_n act_n and_o monument_n p._n 1359._o b._n circa_fw-la med_a say_v the_o patriarche_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n &_o long_o after_o be_v a_o great_a maintainer_n &_o setter_n forth_o of_o christ_n glory_n in_o the_o which_o above_o all_o other_o country_n and_o region_n be_v preach_v the_o true_a gospel_n the_o sacrament_n be_v most_o due_o administer_v etc._n etc._n after_o the_o emperor_n become_v christian_n the_o gospel_n there_o flourish_v most_o and_o mr._n juell_n in_o his_o reply_n to_o m._n harding_n pa._n 246._o ante_fw-la med_n say_v aswell_o s._n austin_n as_o also_o other_o godly_a father_n right_a lie_n yield_v reverence_n to_o the_o sea_n of_o rome_n etc._n etc._n for_o the_o purity_n of_o religion_n which_o be_v there_o preserve_v a_o long_a time_n without_o spo●_n and_o pag._n 628._o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la med_n he_o further_o say_v the_o godly_a father_n of_o those_o fore_n say_v time_n seek_v to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o then_o for_o purity_n in_o religion_n and_o 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conclude_v with_o caluin_n who_o set_v down_o our_o foresay_a allegation_n say_v of_o we_o alij_fw-la we_o caluin_n institut_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 2._o sect_n 2._o say_v magnifice_fw-la illi_fw-la quidem_fw-la svam_fw-la nobis_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la comendant_fw-fr allegant_fw-la enim_fw-la ●am_fw-la apud_fw-la se_fw-la initio_fw-la sana_fw-la doctrina_fw-la &_o sanguine_fw-la martirum_fw-la bene_fw-la fundatam_fw-la perpetua_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la successione_n conseruatam_fw-la fuisse_fw-la ne_fw-la intercideret_fw-la commemorant_fw-la quanti_fw-la hanc_fw-la successionem_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la ireneus_fw-la tertullianus_n origenes_n augustinus_n &_o alij_fw-la they_o in_o deed_n set_v forth_o their_o church_n to_o we_o very_o glorious_o etc._n etc._n they_o report_v out_o of_o ireneus_fw-la tertullian_n origen_n augustine_n and_o other_o how_o high_o they_o esteem_v this_o succession_n whereto_o he_o than_o answer_v and_o give_v his_o like_a reason_n thereof_o say_v 3._o say_v 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invent_v transubstantiation_n be_v innocent_a the_o three_o in_o the_o lateran_n council_n whereto_o we_o answer_v first_o that_o mr._n whitaker_n bare_o affirm_v but_o prove_v not_o this_o his_o assertion_n neither_o do_v he_o allege_v so_o much_o as_o any_o one_o author_n of_o those_o time_n charge_v this_o pope_n innocent_a or_o that_o council_n with_o any_o innovation_n or_o change_n of_o doctrine_n in_o this_o matter_n and_o we_o further_o say_v that_o mr._n whitaker_n urge_v this_o example_n how_o soever_o against_o his_o knowledge_n and_o learning_n yet_o most_o clear_o against_o all_o evidence_n of_o truth_n for_o this_o council_n of_o laterane_n be_v houlden_o anno._n 1215._o med_n 1215._o whitaker_n l._n 7_o contr_n duraeum_n page_n 480._o circa_fw-la med_n and_o as_o appear_v by_o the_o say_a council_n and_o further_a testimony_n of_o fine_n of_o crispinus_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o church_n page_n 345._o fine_n protestant_n there_o be_v present_a thereat_o the_o patriarch_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o constantinople_n 70._o metropolitaines_n 400._o bishopes_n and_o 800._o conuentuall_a prior_n now_o that_o so_o many_o learned_a man_n of_o so_o many_o several_a remote_a nation_n of_o the_o christian_n world_n as_o be_v here_o assemble_v shall_v all_o of_o they_o agree_v
steed_n thereof_o be_v thereby_o understand_v the_o last_o 1260._o year_n before_o luther_n by_o mr._n napeir_n upon_o the_o revelation_n proposition_n 15_o pa._n 22._o 23._o 24._o by_o mr._n brocard_n upon_o the_o reviation_n fol._n 110._o a._n and_o by_o master_n gifford_n upon_o the_o revelat_fw-la pag._n 890._o post_n med_n be_v the_o first_o that_o dissuade_v luther_n from_o further_a say_v of_o mass_n if_o now_o then_o that_o luther_n himself_o be_v at_o first_o a_o catholic_a and_o our_o adversary_n in_o steed_n of_o plain_a instance_n or_o example_n to_o be_v give_v of_o their_o church_n impugn_v of_o error_n of_o her_o pastor_n doctor_n administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n during_o but_o the_o foresay_a 20._o year_n next_o before_o luther_n do_v answer_v we_o that_o they_o be_v as_o then_o persecute_v we_o reply_n to_o they_o from_o themselves_o aswell_o that_o no_o persecution_n of_o man_n can_v frustrate_v the_o foresay_a ordinance_n of_o god_n make_v to_o his_o church_n in_o this_o behalf_n as_o also_o that_o persecution_n p._n persecution_n see_v heretofore_o track_v 2._o c._n 2_o sect_n 8._o at_o o._n p._n make_v she_o most_o know_a and_o therefore_o we_o ask_v as_o before_o who_o these_o be_v that_o be_v as_o then_o so_o persecute_v if_o they_o say_v that_o for_o fear_n of_o persecution_n they_o dare_v not_o profess_v their_o faith_n and_o so_o escape_v unknown_a we_o again_o tell_v they_o from_o themselves_o that_o r_o that_o see_v heretofore_o track_v 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 11._o 1._o l._n p._n q._n r_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o as_o then_o the_o true_a church_n and_o we_o urge_v yet_o further_o that_o the_o fear_n of_o persecution_n can_v be_v no_o such_o let_v to_o they_o after_o that_o sundry_a common_a wealth_n and_o magistrate_n have_v undertake_v the_o public_a profession_n &_o defence_n of_o luther_n doctrine_n but_o that_o as_o then_o at_o the_o least_o if_o any_o such_o have_v be_v in_o be_v they_o may_v safe_o have_v show_v themselves_o and_o join_v in_o comunion_n with_o luther_n if_o last_o they_o say_v that_o their_o pastor_n and_o doctor_n administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n be_v as_o then_o visible_a and_o know_v and_o that_o now_o since_o all_o testimony_n thereof_o be_v suppress_v to_o omit_v what_o have_v be_v 9_o be_v see_v heretofore_o tract_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 9_o already_o sufficient_o say_v against_o this_o and_o to_o admit_v also_o that_o all_o our_o catholic_a writer_n shall_v so_o strange_o have_v pass_v they_o only_o over_o in_o silence_n remember_v all_o other_o as_o the_o annabaptistes_n swenefeldian_n etc._n etc._n why_o yet_o shall_v luther_n zuinglius_fw-la and_o the_o other_o protestant_a writer_n forbear_v to_o mention_v they_o the_o cause_n we_o take_v to_o be_v evident_a and_o only_o for_o that_o during_o the_o foresay_a 20._o year_n before_o luther_n they_o be_v not_o know_v to_o be_v so_o much_o as_o but_o in_o be_v in_o any_o one_o nation_n of_o the_o world_n which_o thing_n be_v in_o our_o opinion_n not_o obscurelye_o grant_v rather_o than_o signify_v by_o our_o learned_a adversary_n themselves_o to_o this_o end_n our_o learned_a adversary_n joannes_n regius_n acknowledge_v that_o the_o church_n be_v even_o they_o show_v they_o joannes_n regius_n be_v urge_v in_o this_o kind_n do_v in_o his_o libre_fw-la apologeticus_fw-la etc._n etc._n pag._n 176._o circa_fw-la &_o post_fw-la med_n answer_v thereto_o say_v negas_fw-la lutherum_n suae_fw-la fidei_fw-la caetum_fw-la invenisse_fw-la etc._n etc._n dico_fw-la fuisse_fw-la ante_fw-la lutherum_n verae_fw-la religionis_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la cum_fw-la luthero_n per_fw-la omni●_n consentiret_fw-la caetum_fw-la ecclesi●sticum_fw-la but_o come_v to_o answer_v where_o this_o congregation_n w●s_v to_o be_v then_o find_v he_o have_v no_o other_o refuge_n but_o say_v there_o that_o it_o be_v a_o ●ontificijs_fw-la non_fw-la agnitus_fw-la nec_fw-la propter_fw-la tyranniden_n pontificiam_fw-la visibiliter_fw-la fortassis_fw-la ostendi_fw-la non_fw-la potuerit_fw-la iucoque_fw-la quando_fw-la urgent_a jesuitae_n ut_fw-la lutherus_n verae_fw-la religionis_fw-la ass_n clam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la ostendat_fw-la etc._n etc._n volunt_fw-la ut_fw-la lutherus_n oppositum_fw-la in_o adiecto_fw-la demonstret_fw-la &_o invisibile_fw-la visibile_fw-la probet_fw-la etc._n etc._n interim_n tamen_fw-la absurdum_fw-la est_fw-la ita_fw-la argumentari_fw-la haec_fw-la res_fw-la ab_fw-la alijs_fw-la non_fw-la agnoscitur_fw-la nec_fw-la potest_fw-la etiam_fw-la videri_fw-la aut_fw-la demonstrari_fw-la ideoque_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la in_o rerum_fw-la n●tura_fw-la etc._n etc._n so_o plain_o do_v he_o be_v urge_v to_o particular_n acknowledge_v his_o pretend_a congregation_n at_o luther_n come_v to_o have_v be_v then_o invisible_a and_o not_o able_a to_o be_v show_v invisibl●_n and_o can_v not_o be_v show_v and_o mr._n jewel_n affirm_v according_o that_o finem_fw-la that_o mr._n jewel_n in_o his_o aplogie_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n part_n 4._o c._n 4._o division_n 2._o and_o in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o apology_n print_v anno_fw-la 1571._o pag._n 426_o prope_fw-la finem_fw-la the_o truth_n be_v unknown_a at_o that_o time_n &_o unheard_a of_o when_o martin_n luther_n and_o hulderi●h_n zuinglius_fw-la first_fw-mi come_v unto_o the_o knowledge_n and_o preach_v of_o the_o gospel_n mr._n parkine_v s●ith_n in_o like_a manner_n christo_fw-la manner_n mr._n parkins_n in_o his_o exposition_n upon_o the_o creed_n pag._n 400._o and_o caluin_n in_o his_o book_n of_o epistle_n print_a hannoviae_n 1597._o ep_n 141._o pag._n 273._o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la med_n say_v according_o ad●urdum_n est_fw-la postquam_fw-la discessionem_fw-la a_o toto_fw-la mundo_fw-la facere_fw-la coacti_fw-la sumus_fw-la inter_fw-la ipsa_fw-la principia_fw-la alios_fw-la ab_fw-la alijs_fw-la dissilire_fw-la and_o daniel_n chamierus_n in_o his_o epist_n jesuitic_a part_n altera_fw-la print_a genevae_fw-la 1601._o pag._n 49._o say_v hereof_o arianorun_n venenum_fw-la non_fw-la portiunculan_n quandam_fw-la feed_v pené_fw-fr totum_fw-la orbem_fw-la contaminaverat_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o ea_fw-la nos_fw-la tempora_fw-la devinimus_fw-la quae_fw-la etiam_fw-la excedent_fw-la ariani_n furoris_fw-la co●fusionem_fw-la non_fw-la portiunculam_fw-la unam_fw-la aut_fw-la alteram_fw-la error_n occupavit_fw-la sed_fw-la totum_fw-la ●orpus_fw-la apostasia_fw-la avertit_fw-la a_o christo_fw-la we_o say_v that_o before_o the_o day_n of_o luther_n for_o the_o space_n of_o many_o hundred_o year_n a_o universal_a apostasy_n overspread_v the_o whole_a face_n of_o the_o earth_n and_o that_o our_o church_n be_v not_o then_o visible_a to_o the_o world_n in_o so_o much_o as_o bucer_n do_v therefore_o call_v luther_n initio_fw-la luther_n primum_fw-la aposiolum_fw-la purioris_fw-la euangelij_fw-la bucer_n in_o epist_n anno._n 36._o ad_fw-la episcopum_fw-la hereford_n &_o vide_fw-la conradum_fw-la schlusselburg_n in_o theolog_n caluinistarum_fw-la l._n 2_o fol._n 17._o a._n initio_fw-la the_o first_o apostle_n of_o the_o reform_a doctrine_n who_o vocation_n say_v our_o adversary_n be_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o then_o general_a defection_n of_o a●l_a protestant_n pastor_n r._n pastor_n see_v before_o tract_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 10._o fine_a at_o q._n r._n immediate_a and_o extraordinary_a the_o cource_n of_o initium_fw-la of_o bez●_n ep_v 5._o al●m●nno_fw-la paulo_fw-la post_fw-la initium_fw-la ordinary_a vocation_n be_v then_o no_o where_n extant_a and_o the_o lutheran_n do_v affirm_v it_o finem_fw-la it_o conrade_n schlustelburg_n ibid._n l._n 2._o fol._n 130._o b._n versus_fw-la finem_fw-la impudency_n to_o say_v that_o many_o learned_a m●n_z in_o germany_n before_o luther_n do_v h●uld_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o a_o other_o of_o they_o further_o say_v si_fw-la antecessores_fw-la lutherus_n in_fw-la officio_fw-la habuisset_fw-la orthodoxos_fw-la etc._n etc._n 137._o etc._n georgius_n milius_n in_o augustan_n confess_v explicat_fw-la art_n 7._o de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la pag._n 137._o if_o there_o have_v be_v right_a believer_n that_o go_v b●fore_o lu●her_o in_o his_o office_n etc._n etc._n there_o have_v then_o be_v no_o need_n of_o a_o lutheraine_a reformation_n 138._o reformation_n georgius_n miluis_fw-la ibid._n pag._n 138._o therefore_o say_v he_o we_o say_v that_o luther_n be_v raise_v up_o divinitus_fw-la &_o extra_fw-la ordinem_fw-la by_o god_n special_a appointment_n and_o extraordinary_o and_o a_o other_o lutherane_n writer_n affirm_v it_o 145._o it_o benedict_n morgenstern_n tract_n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la pag._n 145._o ridiculous_a to_o think_v that_o in_o the_o time_n b●fore_o lu●h●r_a any_o have_v the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n and_o that_o luther_n shall_v receive_v it_o from_o they_o and_o not_o they_o from_o luther_n consider_v say_v he_o it_o be_v manifest_a to_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n that_o before_o luther_n time_n all_o church_n be_v overwhelm_v with_o more_o than_o cymeriane_n darkness_n and_o that_o luther_n be_v divine_o raise_v up_o to_o discover_v the_o same_o and_o to_o restore_v the_o light_n of_o true_a doctrine_n so_o plain_o do_v our_o adversary_n themselves_o in_o steed_n of_o instance_n or_o example_n to_o be_v give_v acknowledge_v to_o the_o contrary_a the_o utter_a defection_n