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A69195 Certaine demandes with their grounds, drawne out of holy writ, and propounded in foro conscientiæ by some religious gentl. vnto the reverend fathers, Richard archbishop of Canterbury, Richard bishop of London, William bishop of Lincolne, Garvase bishop of Worcester, William bishop of Exeter, & Thomas bishop of Peterbourough wherevnto the said gentl. require that it would please their lordships to make a true, plaine, direct, honest and resolute aunswere. Bancroft, Richard, 1544-1610. 1605 (1605) STC 6572.5; ESTC S112734 57,418 70

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ecclesiastical_a or_o temporal_a ibid._n pag._n 252._o yea_o and_o moreover_o we_o believe_v if_o any_o shall_v impugn_v or_o gainsay_v this_o your_o power_n of_o make_v spiritual_a and_o ecclesiastical_a decree_n in_o your_o convocation_n not_o to_o belong_v proper_o to_o your_o ministerial_a power_n which_o you_o have_v by_o your_o divine_a office_n in_o the_o church_n that_o you_o will_v then_o fly_v for_o the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o statute_n 1._o elizab._n to_o our_o late_a queen_n injunction_n man_n whereby_o it_o be_v declare_v that_o nothing_o be_v be_v or_o shall_v be_v mean_v or_o intend_v by_o the_o oath_n require_v to_o have_v any_o other_o duty_n allegiance_n or_o band_n than_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v due_a to_o the_o most_o noble_a king_n of_o famous_a memory_n k._n h._n the_o eight_o her_o majesty_n father_n or_o to_o k._n ed._n 6._o her_o majesty_n brother_n and_o that_o the_o king_n and_o queen_n of_o this_o realm_n may_v not_o challenge_v authoririe_a and_o 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