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popery_n be_v no_o novelty_n answ_n if_o you_o be_v a_o englisman_n methinks_v it_o be_v no_o good_a sign_n of_o the_o religion_n you_o be_v of_o that_o it_o have_v inspire_v you_o with_o the_o scorn_n and_o hatred_n of_o your_o own_o countryman_n to_o that_o degree_n as_o to_o spend_v a_o reproach_n upon_o they_o which_o all_o the_o world_n see_v there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o appearance_n of_o cause_n for_o friend_n you_o take_v no_o little_a care_n to_o hedge_v in_o this_o abuse_n when_o you_o be_v fain_o to_o turn_v answerer_n to_o your_o own_o query_n to_o compass_v it_o to_o your_o mind_n but_o as_o your_o anger_n have_v be_v less_o so_o your_o wit_n have_v be_v more_o to_o have_v let_v alone_o both_o question_n and_o answer_n for_o there_o be_v that_o in_o they_o to_o clear_v we_o from_o your_o reproach_n you_o say_v we_o hate_v popery_n because_o it_o be_v no_o novelty_n and_o yet_o neither_o we_o nor_o our_o father_n nor_o our_o grandfather_n have_v profess_v or_o practise_v popery_n and_o therefore_o in_o spite_n of_o your_o heart_n popery_n must_v be_v a_o novelty_n to_o we_o who_o consequent_o if_o we_o may_v be_v judge_v of_o by_o this_o instance_n be_v not_o so_o desirous_a of_o novelty_n but_o if_o you_o have_v give_v we_o leave_n to_o answer_v your_o question_n why_o we_o be_v not_o in_o love_n with_o popery_n i_o shall_v have_v answer_v to_o this_o purpose_n that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o far_o a_o novelty_n neither_o but_o though_o we_o be_v stranger_n to_o the_o profession_n of_o it_o yet_o we_o have_v so_o true_a a_o idea_n of_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o your_o church_n that_o yourselves_o be_v not_o able_a to_o deceive_v we_o into_o another_o sect._n 36_o quer._n the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v either_o fallible_a or_o infallible_a it_o fallible_a as_o be_v confess_v by_o all_o then_o be_v she_o not_o sound_v upon_o a_o rock_n because_o she_o may_v deceive_v and_o be_v deceive_v answ_n after_o all_o the_o exquisite_a discourse_n that_o have_v be_v publish_v upon_o this_o subject_a it_o be_v what_o shall_v i_o call_v it_o to_o think_v that_o such_o a_o pitiful_a argument_n as_o this_o be_v worth_a a_o thought_n try_v if_o you_o please_v this_o knotty_a piece_n of_o work_n upon_o your_o own_o dear_a self_n for_o no_o other_o answer_v you_o shall_v have_v from_o i_o you_o sir_n be_v either_o fallible_a or_o infallible_a if_o fallible_a as_o i_o humble_o conceive_v you_o be_v than_o you_o be_v not_o found_v upon_o a_o rock_n because_o you_o may_v deceive_v and_o be_v deceive_v but_o this_o argument_n thus_o turn_v upon_o yourself_o be_v now_o i_o look_v upon_o it_o again_o a_o monstrous_a dull_a one_o i_o confess_v and_o that_o for_o prove_v you_o not_o to_o be_v build_v upon_o a_o rock_n because_o you_o may_v be_v deceive_v when_o it_o be_v so_o notorious_a that_o thou_o be_v all_o over_o actual_o deceive_v as_o thy_o lamentable_a papet_n show_v thou_o to_o be_v there_o be_v indeed_o a_o little_a life_n in_o that_o other_o part_n of_o the_o argument_n that_o you_o may_v deceive_v for_o perhaps_o that_o be_v not_o very_o much_o more_o than_o possible_a so_o that_o i_o think_v this_o little_a pain_n i_o have_v take_v may_v have_v be_v spare_v for_o i_o dare_v say_v there_o be_v very_o few_o who_o you_o and_o your_o query_n will_v be_v able_a to_o deceive_v sect._n 37_o quer._n whether_o cardinal_n wolsey_n do_v wise_o by_o demolish_n monastery_n to_o find_a college_n the_o reason_n of_o this_o doubt_n be_v because_o the_o tree_n of_o knowledge_n be_v not_o the_o tree_n of_o life_n answ_n so_o so_o monastery_n be_v the_o tree_n of_o life_n and_o college_n be_v the_o tree_n of_o knowledge_n very_o neat_a and_o witty_a i_o promise_v you_o hence_o forward_o we_o shall_v not_o want_v a_o text_n to_o prove_v that_o ignorance_n be_v the_o mother_n of_o devotion_n if_o erasmus_n have_v not_o happen_v upon_o something_o like_o this_o in_o his_o emcomium_fw-la moriae_fw-la by_o my_o consent_n it_o shall_v have_v be_v write_v upon_o your_o tombstone_n here_o lie_v the_o author_n of_o this_o query_n whether_o cardinal_n wolsey_n etc._n etc._n but_o what_o have_v we_o to_o do_v with_o cardinal_n wolsey_n or_o rather_o what_o have_v you_o to_o do_v to_o say_v any_o thing_n against_o he_o be_v it_o a_o small_a matter_n for_o you_o to_o trample_v upon_o the_o ash_n of_o cranmer_n that_o nothing_o will_v now_o serve_v you_o but_o to_o pirk_v over_o wolsey_n too_o i_o have_v take_v your_o size_n sir_n and_o must_v needs_o put_v you_o in_o mind_n that_o in_o you_o it_o be_v want_n of_o manner_n almost_o to_o talk_v of_o archbishop_n and_o cardinal_n when_o you_o but_o think_v of_o such_o great_a man_n as_o wolsey_n and_o cranmer_n the_o one_o a_o cardinal_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o other_o a_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n man_n indeed_o of_o different_a religion_n but_o both_o of_o extraordinary_a ability_n as_o well_o as_o high_a station_n i_o say_v when_o you_o but_o hear_v they_o or_o such_o as_o they_o mention_v you_o shall_v present_o reflect_v upon_o your_o own_o little_a self_n and_o not_o dare_v to_o open_v your_o mouth_n till_o person_n of_o much_o mean_a rank_n come_v into_o discourse_n sect._n 39_o quer._n be_v there_o not_o want_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n a_o more_o correct_a translation_n of_o the_o bible_n answ_n i_o warrant_v you_o expect_v that_o i_o shall_v say_v i_o or_o no_o to_o this_o query_n present_o but_o in_o such_o a_o case_n a_o wise_a and_o honest_a man_n must_v have_v the_o put_n of_o the_o question_n in_o few_o word_n i_o do_v by_o no_o mean_n deny_v that_o the_o english_a translation_n can_v be_v more_o correct_a than_o it_o be_v after_o the_o exact_a care_n it_o be_v likely_a there_o will_v be_v some_o defect_n in_o so_o great_a a_o work._n but_o this_o we_o say_v that_o we_o need_v not_o a_o better_a translation_n than_o it_o be_v and_o in_o particular_a that_o for_o the_o skill_n and_o fidelity_n that_o be_v show_v in_o it_o we_o will_v compare_v at_o any_o time_n with_o the_o vulgar_a latin._n and_o therefore_o whereas_o you_o add_v sect._n 39_o quer._n that_o many_o material_a error_n be_v find_v in_o our_o present_a english_a bible_n tend_v to_o schism_n and_o liberty_n of_o the_o flesh_n answ_n i_o answer_v that_o you_o be_v very_o much_o mistake_v to_o say_v so_o which_o i_o will_v first_o show_v against_o your_o instance_n and_o then_o leave_v the_o reader_n to_o say_v what_o other_o name_n your_o importunity_n in_o this_o place_n deserve_v the_o first_o instance_n you_o refer_v to_o be_v gal._n 5.17_o for_o the_o flesh_n lu_v against_o the_o spirit_n and_o the_o spirit_n against_o the_o flesh_n and_o these_o be_v contrary_a one_o to_o the_o other_o so_o that_o you_o can_v do_v the_o thing_n that_o you_o will_v now_o i_o suppose_v the_o material_a error_n in_o this_o translation_n lie_v in_o these_o word_n so_o that_o you_o can_v do_v which_o you_o will_v say_v aught_o to_o have_v be_v so_o that_o you_o do_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o word_n word_n will_v bear_v both_o version_n though_o i_o confess_v the_o latter_a seem_v to_o i_o to_o be_v more_o grammatical_a the_o reason_n i_o conceive_v why_o our_o translator_n choose_v the_o former_a be_v that_o the_o follow_a verse_n seem_v to_o imply_v that_o in_o this_o verse_n the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o those_o that_o be_v lead_v by_o the_o flesh_n who_o in_o that_o state_n can_v do_v the_o thing_n which_o their_o conscience_n prompt_v they_o to_o now_o this_o i_o say_v be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v a_o material_a error_n tend_v to_o liberty_n of_o the_o flesh_n that_o it_o be_v no_o error_n at_o all_o
that_o scripture_n be_v the_o old_a song_n of_o heretic_n and_o secretary_n etc._n etc._n i_o know_v not_o whether_o it_o betray_v more_o ignorance_n or_o profaneness_n the_o scripture_n if_o they_o must_v be_v so_o call_v be_v the_o old_a song_n of_o the_o good_a old_a father_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o old_a song_n of_o the_o old_a heretic_n and_o sectary_n be_v tradition_n tradition_n unwritten_a tradition_n the_o take_v up_o of_o which_o song_n be_v that_o that_o give_v you_o some_o title_n to_o antiquity_n to_o your_o second_o interrogatiory_n i_o answer_v that_o if_o by_o admit_v various_a interpretation_n you_o mean_v that_o the_o word_n of_o the_o bible_n be_v not_o so_o plain_a as_o to_o exclude_v all_o possibility_n of_o various_a interpretation_n and_o pervete_n they_o to_o a_o wrong_a sense_n it_o be_v then_o a_o very_a idle_a demand_n whether_o the_o bible_n do_v not_o admit_v of_o various_a interpretation_n for_o i_o defy_v your_o judge_n who_o you_o speak_v of_o present_o after_o be_v he_o man_n or_o man_n to_o put_v word_n so_o together_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v impossible_a to_o pervert_v they_o to_o a_o wrong_a meaning_n but_o if_o you_o mean_v that_o upon_o a_o fair_a construction_n of_o the_o word_n of_o the_o bible_n they_o admit_v various_a interpretation_n i_o answer_v that_o in_o some_o place_n they_o do_v and_o in_o other_o they_o do_v not_o admit_v more_o than_o one_o which_o be_v therefore_o undoubted_o the_o true_a one_o but_o for_o you_o consequence_n that_o of_o necessity_n some_o judge_n be_v to_o be_v assign_v etc._n etc._n i_o beg_v your_o pardon_n that_o i_o do_v not_o see_v it_o unless_o of_o necessity_n man_n must_v be_v either_o so_o wanton_a and_o quarrelsome_a as_o to_o wrangle_v to_o all_o eternity_n about_o the_o meaning_n of_o word_n which_o may_v be_v diverse_o expound_v without_o any_o harm_n do_v or_o so_o perverse_a as_o to_o cavil_v at_o a_o text_n which_o have_v but_o one_o plain_a meaning_n if_o you_o find_v yourselves_o give_v this_o way_n you_o indeed_o aught_o to_o have_v a_o judge_n assign_v for_o you_o and_o more_o than_o one._n you_o shall_v have_v one_o judge_n assign_v who_o constant_a business_n it_o shall_v be_v to_o determine_v the_o true_a interpretation_n of_o all_o other_o scripture_n but_o those_o that_o speak_v of_o he_o to_o keep_v you_o from_o wrangle_v about_o they_o and_o you_o will_v need_v another_o extraordinary_a judge_n to_o assign_v the_o ordinary_a judge_n from_o those_o text_n that_o mention_v he_o and_o a_o three_o to_o assign_v the_o second_o and_o so_o on_o till_o you_o come_v to_o a_o judge_n for_o who_o credit_n you_o must_v take_v his_o own_o word_n that_o you_o may_v not_o wrangle_v about_o a_o judge_n to_o all_o eternity_n sect._n 6_o quer._n to_o these_o query_n i_o have_v often_o desire_v a_o answer_n but_o never_o yet_o meet_v with_o any_o answ_n why_o that_o be_v hard_o indeed_o but_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o that_o these_o query_n though_o they_o be_v print_v yet_o go_v abroad_o so_o private_o as_o if_o they_o be_v more_o afraid_a than_o desirous_a to_o meet_v with_o a_o answer_n whether_o you_o ever_o meet_v with_o a_o answer_n i_o can_v say_v perhaps_o you_o have_v not_o and_z it_o may_v be_v you_o will_v never_o own_o that_o you_o have_v but_o let_v we_o go_v on_o sect._n 7_o quer._n if_o you_o pretend_v as_o many_o do_v that_o cranmer_n and_o his_o associate_n derive_v their_o holy_a order_n from_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n by_o the_o hand_n of_o roman_n catholic_n bishop_n it_o follow_v inevitable_o that_o roman_n catholic_n bishop_n do_v also_o receive_v their_o order_n from_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n and_o consequent_o be_v therefore_o to_o be_v hear_v by_o this_o answer_n the_o protestant_n seem_v to_o i_o to_o destroy_v their_o own_o cause_n answ_n if_o they_o destroy_v their_o own_o cause_n you_o be_v to_o give_v they_o thanks_o for_o it_o be_v more_o than_o their_o enemy_n can_v do_v but_o i_o do_v not_o see_v how_o this_o answer_n destroy_v it_o for_o if_o those_o who_o you_o call_v roman_n catholic_n bishop_n can_v give_v good_a order_n than_o be_v the_o order_n of_o cranmer_n and_o his_o associate_n good_a it_o be_v enough_o for_o we_o that_o they_o have_v their_o order_n from_o bishop_n and_o as_o we_o contend_v that_o their_o order_n be_v never_o the_o better_a so_o we_o willing_o grant_v that_o they_o be_v never_o the_o worse_o for_o be_v confer_v by_o those_o who_o you_o must_v needs_o style_n roman_n catholic_n bishop_n well_o but_o you_o say_v if_o we_o pretend_v to_o derive_v our_o holy_a order_n from_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n by_o the_o hand_n of_o roman_n catholic_n bishop_n it_o follow_v inevitable_o that_o these_o also_o do_v receive_v their_o order_n from_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n so_o that_o though_o our_o order_n be_v never_o the_o worse_o from_o come_v through_o their_o hand_n yet_o the_o roman_n catholic_n bishop_n themselves_o be_v in_o a_o better_a case_n for_o our_o grant_v it_o since_o their_o order_n must_v therefore_o by_o our_o confession_n be_v from_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n very_o well_o and_o if_o your_o doctrine_n be_v true_a it_o will_v i_o think_v be_v find_v that_o judas_n receive_v his_o order_n from_o christ_n too_o when_o christ_n say_v to_o he_o and_o to_o the_o rest_n hoc_fw-la facite_fw-la perhaps_o you_o will_v say_v that_o those_o be_v not_o bishop_n order_n to_o go_v on_o with_o you_o therefore_o what_o follow_v from_o roman_a catholic_n bishop_n have_v receive_v their_o order_n from_o christ_n why_o therefore_o they_o be_v true_a bishop_n and_o to_o be_v hear_v undoubted_o but_o what_o then_o therefore_o protestant_n seem_v to_o destroy_v their_o own_o cause_n this_o be_v so_o much_o out_o of_o the_o common_a road_n of_o reason_v that_o sure_o you_o have_v some_o logic_n by_o yourself_o which_o the_o world_n yet_o never_o see_v and_o therefore_o you_o will_v do_v very_o well_o to_o let_v we_o have_v it_o if_o ever_o it_o shall_v come_v into_o your_o head_n to_o query_n again_o not_o to_o have_v hear_v you_o have_v be_v unreasonable_a i_o confess_v and_o this_o whether_o your_o bishop_n be_v true_a or_o not_o but_o we_o have_v hear_v they_o over_o and_o over_o and_o this_o although_o they_o have_v say_v the_o same_o thing_n over_o and_o over_o again_o you_o may_v also_o perceive_v that_o i_o have_v read_v which_o may_v serve_v instead_o of_o hear_v yourself_o too_o who_o i_o fancy_n to_o be_v no_o bishop_n and_o this_o i_o assure_v you_o not_o without_o some_o trial_n of_o my_o own_o patience_n to_o read_v such_o ramble_a and_o unedifying_a thing_n as_o you_o have_v here_o bring_v together_o sect._n 8_o quer._n but_o you_o will_v say_v perhaps_o that_o roman_n catholic_n bishop_n do_v receive_v their_o order_n not_o their_o doctrine_n from_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n very_o good_a i_o will_v fain_o know_v then_o by_o who_o authority_n the_o first_o reformer_n rise_v up_o against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n untie_v this_o knot_n or_o confess_v that_o cranmer_n luther_n calvin_n socinis_n etc._n etc._n make_v themselves_o judge_n witness_n and_o accuser_n answ_n here_o again_o we_o be_v at_o a_o loss_n for_o want_n of_o your_o private_a logic_n for_o why_o judge_n witness_n and_o accuser_n shall_v come_v in_o here_o no_o man_n alive_a it_o may_v be_v know_v but_o yourself_o and_o perhaps_o not_o you_o neither_o to_o so_o much_o as_o i_o understand_v i_o be_o content_a to_o answer_v true_a bishop_n than_o may_v preach_v false_a doctrine_n and_o against_o your_o bishop_n we_o have_v terrible_a evidence_n that_o those_o doctrine_n of_o they_o which_o we_o reject_v be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v receive_v from_o christ_n that_o many_o of_o they_o be_v contrary_a to_o what_o we_o have_v receive_v from_o he_o now_o every_o christian_a not_o only_o may_v but_o aught_o to_o reject_v such_o doctrine_n and_o that_o by_o the_o same_o authority_n which_o require_v every_o one_o to_o prove_v all_o thing_n and_o to_o hold_v fast_o that_o which_o be_v good_a and_o much_o more_o may_v bishop_n and_o other_o spiritual_a guide_v rise_v up_o against_o they_o nay_o by_o their_o order_n and_o station_n in_o the_o church_n they_o have_v not_o only_a authority_n so_o to_o do_v but_o it_o will_v be_v severe_o require_v of_o they_o if_o they_o do_v it_o not_o i_o know_v not_o what_o ail_v you_o to_o tie_v a_o invisible_a knot_n and_o then_o to_o bid_v we_o untie_v it_o as_o for_o socinus_n we_o be_v no_o more_o bind_v to_o answer_n for_o his_o or_o any_o other_o man_n error_n because_o he_o hold_v many_o truth_n with_o we_o against_o you_o than_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o answer_v for_o you_o because_o we_o hold_v some_o truth_n with_o you_o