Selected quad for the lemma: doctrine_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
doctrine_n	apostle_n	bishop_n	succession_n	2,208	5	10.0388	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A25400	Of episcopacy three epistles of Peter Moulin ... / answered by ... Lancelot Andrews ... ; translated for the benefit of the publike.; Responsiones ad Petri Molinaei epistolas tres. English	Andrewes, Lancelot, 1555-1626.; Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.	1647 (1647)	Wing A3143; ESTC R10969	34,395	66

that you pinch not upon I say not other mens matters which belong not to you yes which somewhat concern you for our affairs are not meer strangers to you And see heer 's a larg field for you wherin you may shew the sharpness of your wit which indeed is excellent But do not do not hope that you can {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} play on both sides Your own will complain of you Ours need no such defence So you will loose the thanks of either side But although these things be evidently enough conteined in Holy Scriptures to any whose eye is single yet is not that Principle so as you have laid it For not what belong to Divine Right but what belong to Faith and Good manners are evidently enough conteined But these are not adaequate to Divine Right Howbeit you might well you might have wrote as you speak exactly had you begun not where the words were promiscuous but where the Things being always distinct the signification of the words began likewise to be distinct It was possible for you to have absteined from words aequivocal confused and promiscuously taken nor did any necessity enforce you to begin there You might also have balk'd all occasion of diverting to us Your design was touching Bishops you were to treat of them and of the Office it self Of the Bishops of England to what purpose Doth England make that lawfull which out of England is unlawfull The abuses of men wherever they are must be taxed the office it self in what country soever is the same of it self in it self by it self lawfull Nor if the Bishops be not good is the Office of Bishops not good Yea but let the Office of Bishops be let Them be no Bishops unless they make good their Name But here I know the King would set an asterisk of approbation When you derive Episcopacy from the very infancy of the Church When you acknowledg S. Iames to be Bishop of Hierusalem and a long succession of Bishops there deriu'd from him When now again you condemn Aerius See you have Three asterisks for the Three dashes For these things are most true and according to the judgment of the Antients even of Irenaeus who leads the train of the Antients The true profession is the doctrine of the Apostles and the antient state of the Church through the while world is according to the succession of Bishops to whom They deliver'd that Church which is in every place which hath reached even unto us Somwhat I added afterward concerning the novel upstart name of Calling and so of Pastors as they are now in use with you Touching that of Calling you do not deny but that it is vnusual you used I suppose a {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} the figure of extenution for it is so unusual that it is not at all Calling indeed is sometime used for the Office for Ordination never But neither do you deny what I observed touching that word Pastors Nor do you produce any either among those Antients or the later Writers before our Age that was so call'd viz. a Pastor who was not indeed a Bishop Only I know not how you heap up many things together but all beside the matter that you seem not in them neither to have reach'd my meaning For what if I grant all that you allege That your flocks are not without a Pastor as it seemeth good to you to stile him That all you say out of S. Paul S. Peter the Prophets is true What are these to me who only say that the Antients spake thus that that other name is not from Antiquity I recall you therfore to this That among the Antient Christians in former ages you shew me out of their writings where the word Pastor was ever used and they spake not of the Bishop or that it was used as with you it is of a Parish Priest Prevail thus far with your self as to shew this for unless you do this you do nothing to the purpose But yet see of what force those things are that you brought there For S. Paul doth not say there that Presbyters did pas ere were Pastors this He saith Wherein the Holy Ghost hath made you Bishops pascere to feed to be Pastors over the Church of God Saint Paul's Pastor therfore is a Bishop And lest you should think that the name Bishop is to be taken there appellatively as if you would say Such as haue the Cure of not properly behold the Syriack Interpreter himself reteins the Greek word when the Syriack wants not a word of her own by which to express Such as haue the Cure of And so also S. Peters Pastor 1. Epist. 5. chap. 2. v. For I wholy doubt whether that place of S. Peter belong to inferior Presbyters For He addeth there as you know {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} being Bishops over them so that He also conjoins {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} being Bishops with {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} being Pastors That word indeed I stand not upon That which follows there not Lording it over the Clergy doth plainly evince that they to whom S. Peter wrote this had {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} power and authority over the Clergy otherwise that {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} that Domineering and Lording over them could not possibly be apply'd to them Wherfor S. Peters Pastor must needs be a Bishop And who indeed can doubt of this seing the conjunction of those two words took the first rise from S. Peter For wheras you inferr that the Word of God is Pabulum food that therfore they who administer this food do pascere feed I shall easily grant you that feed they do that is {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} but not therefore {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} whence cometh {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} as you know 1. e. Pastor who over and above the food of the Word administer somewhat else beside But what you bring from that place to the Ephesians chap. 4. are either uncertain For 1. One will have Pastors and Doctors to be all one 2. Another maketh no mention of Pastors 3. A Third thinketh that Readers are Pastors I shall speak of them all 1. To S. Augustine Pastor and Doctor are no otherwise the same then Order and Degree were to us a little before Every Order a Degree but not every Degree an Order so every Pastor is a Doctor but not every Doctor a Pastor Who saith this Saint Hierom. 2. Of him who makes no mention there of Pastors nor will I make mention The Monks are better inclin'd commonly to Treatisers then to Bishops 3. For S. Ambrose who understood Bishops in Apostles Presbyters in Prophets Deacons in Evangelists no wonder if at last he fell upon Readers when he had none beside them to whom after those Three he might referr them Thus say