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A47083 Of the heart and its right soveraign, and Rome no mother-church to England, or, An historical account of the title of our British Church, and by what ministry the Gospel was first planted in every country with a remembrance of the rights of Jerusalem above, in the great question, where is the true mother-church of Christians? / by T.J. Jones, Thomas, 1622?-1682. 1678 (1678) Wing J996_VARIANT; ESTC R39317 390,112 653

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Usher 1129. Hist Britt l. 8. c. 8. Ubbo Emmius l. 3. p. 107. Emrys or Aurelius Ambrosius before him Here that Archbishop had his Residence that sent seven of his suffragan Bishops to meet the said Augustine near Worcester to defend their Brittish rights and Customes against Rome's Invasion Neither is Cressy's exception against the Welsh Epistle in Sir H. Spelman of any validity because it mentions the Archbishop of Caerleon to be their proper Superiour when as at this time saith he the See was at St. David and not at Caerleon c Usher p. 1132. p. 83. Quanquam ipsius Augustini temporibus inurbe Legionum sedem Archiepiscopatûs adhuc haesisse cum ab aliis tum ab Authore Chronici quod Brutus appellatur proditum inveniam unde ijdem Legionenses Menevenses Antistites Giraldo because though it were it was still the same See and the names were promiscuously us'd and there is nothing in that Epistle but what is in effect contain'd in the Narrations of Bede and Geoffrey of Monmouth who is no where more fabulous than for the Interest of Rome or the discredit of our Brittish Worthyes and both Authors appear more their Friends than ours And where Geoffrey Stiles Dubritius without any colour of Truth Britanniae Primas Apostolicae sedis legatus The Pope's Legate and Primate of Brittain though it was as absurd then as to fancy General Montecuculi now to be a Turkish Bashaw yet it serves very well to confirm that this Archbishop of Caerleon was the undoubted Primate at that time and not York or London because Lyes and Legends that expect any belief are ever fastned to some Truth And there this Primacy continued amongst the Brittians till sometime after the Norman Conquest But if the Question be of right Where the Primacy of Brittain ought of right to be and to be by all right English and Brittish-Christians obeyed from the heart as unto Christ The Resolution is far more easie For this Church may be considered as to its Inside or the heart and inward man or the Outside or its outward man As to the first the Primacy is solely in Heaven the heart being subject to no Pope nor Prelate but to Christ alone and to all lawful Governours for his sake Neither is this Primacy local or confin'd and limited to any place on earth either Rome or Canterbury as neither is the Soul or its thoughts but in all places of Europe and Asia Africa and America we are to obey and follow Christ the Soveraign of the Soul before any other whatsoever God before man Conscience before Interest Truth before Authority the Laws of God befere the Doctrines of men Duty before Fancy Honesty before Advantage Heaven before Earth and Everlasting Concernments before any Temporal whatsoever But if the Church be considered in its Outside the Case is in another World that is in this present World where the Civil Magistrate is Supream in all Temporal Concerns and Causes As in all Ecclesiastical are Ecclesiastical Magistrates and Governours and that two wayes 1. Originally 2. Eminently Originally the rightful Bishops of Brittain before the time of King Lucius and Constantine being of Apostolical descent and Institution and the chief of their Order were the chief and Prime Governours of this Church by right for the first Bishops are certainly known to be appointed by the Apostles themselves as James at Jerusalem c. And the Magistrate while Heathen had no right to controle them in any part of their Commission that was from Christ for the propagation of his Gospel or the publick weal and preservation of his Church in truth and order and regular Communion in this world therefore in that respect alone they were exempt and not subject to any human Laws and Authorities whatsoever which liberty hath been scandalously abus'd and extended by the principles of Popery to exemption from Christian Magistrates As if they had been equally as opposite and asymbolical with the Gospel as Heathen But when the Magistrate became Christian in Lucius and Constantine c. And were received into the Church according to their quality and station before in the World of Gods Erection the Case was otherwise again for now they were Ecclesiastial Magistrates as well as Civil and if Ecclesiastical therefore Supream in Ecclesiastical causes referring solely to this present life as well as Temporal that is Supream Primates and defenders of the Temporal concerns of the Eternal Church of Christ Therefore as the Supremacy of the Church was Originally in our Brittish Bishops so it came afterwards Eminently to be lodged and vested of right in our Brittish Christian Magistrates Christian Bishops giving place to Christian Kings like the lesser to the greater Lustre who yet acted little or nothing without their advice and counsel as we found King Arthur a little before chusing his Bishops and Archbishops with the advice of Synods Therefore as we say where the King is there the Court is so it may as well be said and justified where the Christian King of Brittain is there is the Primate of Brittain and head of this Church Notwithstanding as our Kings in their Civil Capacities have their standing Courts and Tribunalls for Habitation or Justice by Law and custome as well as Ambulatory and Personal so likewise in their Ecclesiastical their standing Primacyes where they pleased by Law to fix them as did King Lucius perhaps at London and Constantine at York and Arthur at Caerleon and others at Canterbury which they or their Successors may adjourn and remove elsewhere in like manner when they see good reason The vulgar practice of common Seamen penetrates and decides this point For with them at the motion of the Prince or Admiral from a first to a second or third Rate Ship the Flag shall follow by consequence and desert that Ship whatever be its Rate the Prince deserts and hover only there where he hath chosen to abide In like manner it is with the Primacy which answers to the Flag as Ships at Sea answer to Cities on Land It doth and alwayes ought to follow the will and Law of the Prince and any Forreign Pope hath as much to do to order and dipose of a Flagg in our Fleet by his Bulls and Canons as of a Primacy in our Kingdom There is an old appetite in Mitre and Crown to Re-unite and to be together as they were Originally in the same Persons in the Patriarchs yea in Heathen Kings and Emperours Holy and Publick signifying the same our English Primacy which travelled heretofore from London to Canterbury to be near King Ethelbert is since crawl'd back as far as Lambeth to be near White-hall The Christian Mitre attends the Crown the Antichristian would Controle it Both would have it near the one goes to it the other would have it to come to him Christian Bishops count themselves Subjects to their Kings Antichristian would have Kings to be Subjects unto them ●ea and