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of_o s._n hilary_n of_o poicteurs_n to_o prove_v that_o rome_n be_v once_o not_o only_o distinct_a from_o but_o not_o so_o much_o as_o a_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n his_o word_n cite_v be_v these_o quidam_fw-la ex_fw-la vobis_fw-la firmissima_fw-la fidei_fw-la constantia_fw-la intra_fw-la communionem_fw-la se_fw-la i_o be_fw-mi continentes_fw-la se_fw-la à _fw-la coeteris_fw-la extra_fw-la gallias_n abstinuerunt_fw-la and_o hence_o you_o conclude_v that_o the_o church_n of_o france_n at_o that_o time_n communicate_v not_o with_o rome_n unless_o we_o can_v prove_v rome_n to_o be_v in_o france_n answ_n this_o be_v much_o like_o your_o former_a consequence_n s._n hilary_n be_v not_o so_o simple_a as_o to_o think_v the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n be_v at_o that_o time_n confine_v to_o one_o country_n or_o nation_n he_o only_o commend_v the_o constancy_n of_o his_o countryman_n in_o persevere_v in_o the_o catholic_a faith_n and_o not_o communicate_v with_o the_o arrian_n which_o swarm_v in_o divers_a place_n out_o of_o france_n if_o then_o by_o those_o word_n coeteris_fw-la extra_fw-la gallias_n you_o will_v exclude_v all_o the_o world_n beside_o france_n from_o the_o catholic_a church_n you_o will_v but_o make_v yourself_o ridiculous_a to_o the_o world_n in_o make_v that_o great_a pillar_n of_o the_o gallican_n church_n speak_v that_o which_o all_o the_o world_n know_v to_o be_v false_a for_o at_o that_o time_n neither_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n nor_o any_o western_a church_n be_v infect_v with_o arrianism_n as_o appear_v plain_o by_o s._n basil_n who_o be_v s._n hilary_n cretanean_a and_o a_o bishop_n in_o the_o eastern_a church_n viz._n of_o cappadocia_n his_o wordâ—_n be_v these_o vos_fw-fr par_fw-fr erat_fw-la intelligere_fw-la quod_fw-la per_fw-la dei_fw-la gratiam_fw-la quamplurimi_fw-la sint_fw-la qui_fw-la sidem_fw-la tuentur_fw-la orthodoxam_fw-la à _fw-la patribus_fw-la nicaenis_fw-la secundum_fw-la picâ—â—tis_fw-la regulam_fw-la 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hilary_n of_o poicteurs_n there_o be_v at_o rome_n no_o church_n no_o communion_n of_o saint_n she_o and_o those_o in_o communion_n with_o she_o be_v heretical_a and_o comply_v with_o arrius_n this_o be_v most_o apparent_o false_a by_o the_o record_n of_o all_o history_n for_o at_o that_o time_n the_o western_a church_n be_v nothing_o so_o much_o infect_v with_o arrianism_n as_o the_o eastern_a beside_o s._n hilary_n in_o that_o place_n by_o you_o cite_v sect._n â—3_n have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o name_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o therefore_o have_v not_o in_o particular_a exclude_v it_o from_o the_o catholic_a church_n but_o from_o those_o word_n of_o the_o father_n caeteris_fw-la extra_fw-la gallias_n you_o will_v prove_v that_o all_o the_o world_n beside_o france_n be_v out_o of_o the_o catholic_a church_n for_o say_v you_o there_o be_v then_o no_o communion_n with_o rome_n unless_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o rome_n be_v in_o france_n sect._n 23._o but_o pray_v tell_v i_o 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