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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A62542	The nullity of the prelatique clergy, and Church of England further discovered in answer to the plaine prevarication, or vaine presumption of D. John Bramhall in his booke, intituled, The consecration and succession of Protestant bishops justified, &c. : and that most true story of the first Protestant bishops ordination at the Nagshead verified their fabulous consecration at Lambeth vvith the forgery of Masons records cleerely detected / by N.N.	Talbot, Peter, 1620-1680.	1659 (1659)	Wing T117; ESTC R38284	70,711	150

more determinative signes then in the text of S. Paul it is generally vnderstood for a woeman not wife And this their lewd humour makes them have such a spite against the ever Virgin Mother of God They could translate Helcomenos full of sores Luc. 16. v. 20. speaking of Lazarus but Kecharitomene Luc. 1. v. 28. must not be full of grace but freely beloved Bible 1628. because it was spoken of the Virgin Mother and in the margen is put received into favour as if the Greeke word were capable of many senses but by no meanes of that sense which might signify that the mother of God being à Virgin should befull of grace So much she hath lost in the opinion of these lewd fellowes vpon the prerogative of her Virginity After their fraud occasioned by a false pretence of ambiguity they fall vpon downe right falsity Where both the Greeke and Latin have 1. Cor. 11. v. 27. Who so ever shall eato this bread or drinke the cup They put and insteed of or Bible 628. to persuade the ignorant that Catholickes gainesay the Scripture in not giving allwayes the communion vnder both kinds But it is no marvel they sould change or into and when Beza had changed as into signifies and the German heretiques solum for soli to make David say I have nothing els but sinned in lieu of To thee alone I have sinned Ps 51. And Luther added the word alone to faith and said it should stand in spite of all that opposed it But what are these changes to the making whole bookes Apocryphal because prejudicial to their errours The Machabees thrust out vpon account of Purgatory Ecclesiasticus of liberty Toby of the assistance of Angels For as to their having bin questioned it is a vaine excuse seing the Apocalypse no lesse questioned is held for good because it serves the Ministers to foole the people with the hornes of the beast planted on the Popes head which would become their own much better But it is ridiculous to see these petty Grammarians so Critical in the Etymological sense that Baptisme must be washing Priest Elder Beelzebub Lord of afly Catholique Vniversal and yet Paradosis must not be traditions 2. Thess 2. v. 15. but instructions Bible 1628. or ordinances preachings institutions or any thing but what it should be yet where mention is made of reprehensible traditions you shall be sure to have this word to English the same Paradosis as Matt. 15 v. 2. 3. of the same Bible Nay you shall have Traditions where the Greeke word is neyther Paradosis nor any thing like for Col. 2. v 20. by Tidogmatizesthe any one that knowes the Greeke language is rather put in mind of Decrees Doctrines or opinions then Traditions but to make them odious they are left where any thing is spoken to their commendation although the original Greeke deliver them in their proper word and here they are thrust in by head and shoulders where the Greeke hath a word very different and this not onely in the old Bible 1579. are you led with traditions but in a later 1628. are you burdened with Traditions The Greeke having no word proper to Traditions much lesse to burdening I wonder the translater of this late Bible was not ashamed here as in another place for 2. Cor. 6. v. 16. he puts as he ought what agreement hath the Temple of God with Idols not daring to be so impudent as to follow the Bible 1567. How agreeth the Temple of God with images being a thing known that ever the Iews Temples wanted not images Much more of this kind and even more shamefull profanation you may see M. Bramhall in Gregory Martin whose authority though you slight yet you ought not to slight the manifold and manifest examples he brings Perhaps the authority of your Brethren the Puritans whom you now and then find occasion to flatter in your bookes vvill be of more weight with you or at least with others In a petition directed to her most excellent Majesty c. pag they speake in these termes Our translation of the Psalmes comprised in the booke of common prayer doth in addition subtraction and alteration differ from the truth of the Hebrew in two thous and places at least And M. Carliele a Protestant in his booke that Christ descended into Hell sayth of the English translaters that they have depraved the sense obscured the truth deceaved the ignorant Now Sir I hope you vvill be pleased or forced to take notice of the argument which before you passed by vvinking as if it were vnworthy to be regarded Ministers falsify Scriptures no wonder if they forge records They are so deprived of conscience and shame that they conspire to maintaine their religion with John Foxes most false and foolish stories with most impudent falsifications of Scripture of ancient and moderne Authors which any man that will take the least paines may evidently see to be wilfull vnconscionable vnexcusable therefore no marvel if they give false attestations of a matter not extant in writing and which may after so long a time have bin forgot by some and remembred by others who are not pressed to testify their remembrāce as being a thing needles to the cause and dangerous to their persons You thought that as one mans yawning makes others yavvne so your winking at this argument would make others winke and not marke the force of it You hoped to persuade the Reader that you might as lawfully reject my Authors as I yours As if there were no difference bewixt men of true and false dealing Let any man judge that is acquainted with Stapleton Belarmine Parsons Peron shew in any of them such fowle and wilfull cheating as manifestly appeares in Jewel Morton Andrews Barlow and generally in the rest of the prime Protestant Ministers or if he be not acquainted with our writers let him but pervse the aforesaid Walsinghams search into Religion or the Quiet and sober reckoning with M. Thomas Morton where he shall find Protestants never more false then in their imputation of falsood to our Authors In whom I could never discover any wilfull corruption in defense of our Religion against heretiques and the Author of the Treatise tending to Mitigation a man well versed in the writings of both sides hath c. 12. pag. 489. long since challenged Morton to bring forth any Catholicke Authors whatsoever that wrote against Protestants since these heresies began that hath bin taken in this impiety I meane that hath set downe in print any such falsity as can not be excused eyther by iguorance oversight negligence error of print translation diversity of editions or the like but that it must needs be presumed that he knew the vntruth and yet would set it forth of this kind I say let him shew but one example among all Catholicke writers of our time and I will in my conscience greatly mistrust and discredit the Author whether it be another or my selfe But if he shew me two or three in any writer of this kind I shall never be able to beleeve him more Thus he Certainely if we were given to this practise it vvould have bin discovered in the innumerable citations of Bellarmine or of the Author of the Protestants Apology vvho hath collected the sayings of all Protestant vvriters he could possibly find We have vsed faire dealing in the edition of Scripture we follow as having bin in vse many ages in the Church before these Controversies and therefore not fraudalently chosen much lesse falsely changed to favour our doctrine which D Covel Protestant in his answer to M. John Burges pag 94. confesseth to have bin vsed in the Church a thous and three hundred yeares agoe where he prefers it before others and pag. 91. prefers amongst English translations that vvhich comes neerest it Which is highly commended by Beza in his Annot. in c. 2 Luc. v. 1. and by Molinaeus the famous french Calvinist is more esteemed then the translation of Erasmus Bucer Bullinger Tigurines and of Calvin himselfe and all others To conclude what Protestant so ever will not take the paines to confer the doctrines and Doctors of both parties but vvill take M. Bramhals empty words for found arguments his pretermissions for solutions his prevarication or presumption for a serious and solid defension his Rhetorical Tropes for rational ansvvers his negative attestations about a smal accessory for a positive Vindication of the principal charge made against his Clergy scraps of History for Christian Theology a deceitfull appearance of long coates and surplesses for a sufficient evidence of Priestly character to such a one I say that he neyther deserves a more faithfull champion to rescue him in his dangers nor a more skilfull Devine to resolve him in his doubts nor a more lawfull Priest to absolve him from his sins FINIS